LTD Series - 04 - Full Sail Brewery & Tasting Room & Pub

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BA SCORE
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Reviews: 107
Hads: 217
rAvg: 3.64
pDev: 7.69%
Wants: 5
Gots: 9 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Full Sail Brewery & Tasting Room & Pub visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Maibock / Helles Bock |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: IntriqKen on 12-14-2010

"What do you get when you brew an elegant limited edition lager with one select barley? LTD 04, the single malt of beers! This brand new edition to our LTD Series is a finely balanced single malt, single hop, beer that is pale-golden in color and brewed with just pale malt and pleasantly hopped with just Willamette hops."

ABV 7% IBU 45
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Photo of BIA_BrewMasta
2.62/5  rDev -28%
look: 1 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

When I hear the word bock, my expectations are very high. There was nothing too exciting about this brew, however it goes down really smooth for 7% ABV. (152 characters)

Photo of ANiklaus
4/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a regular pint glass.

Appearance: Golden straw color with half a finger of head. Almost no carbonation with little foam coating the glass.

Smell: Strawlike with hints of honey, citrus, and malt. Most likely the beers low point.

Taste: Taste is very smooth and very sweet. Mostly honey, citrus, and a little malt flavor. Taste some fruitiness. Refreshing. Not overwhelming, but somewhat weak.

Mouthfeel: The beer's strongest point. It is extremely drinkable and is a beer that fits the role of a summer beer. Recommend strongly with fish.

Overall: This beer is nothing outstanding but is a worthy one to try, especially in the summer on the hot day. Pairs extremely well with fried fish. (717 characters)

Photo of stephens101
3.89/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Working my way through the LTD series over a course of years without even realizing it. The LTD 1 was one of my first, favorite craft brews, so always stoked to try subsequent offerings from the same vein.

This one pours with a bubbly, off-white head. Color is a clear, pale yellow.

Aroma consists of lighter fruits that mix with notes of green grass and spent grain. Perfectly normal if you will.

Sweet and sugary up front with a fruity flow (green apple and melon) and a bit of hops and spice at the end. Somewhat astringent in the aftertaste.

Medium bodied with a faint alcohol heat that lingers. A little thicker than I expected, but fulfilling overall.

If nothing else, the LTD's are a series that are always welcomed, if not for their brilliance, then for their timeless consistency. (797 characters)

Photo of boddhitree
3.93/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

At 7% ABV, can maybe someone say if there's a difference between a Pale Bock and an Imperial Pilsner? Best by date is 05/05/14. Does that mean this is too old?

Appearance: Looks like a Pils, not a Bock, though Pale is in the name. It's super deep golden yellow with a snow white head.

Aroma: Lots of Pils malt aroma, but also a hot alcohol and spiciness. After a little, the aroma fades, so I wouldn't call this a fragrant beer.

Flavor:
Front: First thing that's noticeable is a mellow bitterness, some tartness, some sweetness, and then a little alcohol hotness, which all is quite balanced.

Mid: More of the same, but also a decent amount of malt, but I'm not getting Pils malt, and lo and behold, the website says only Pale malt. Ok, it's not a Pils at all, then. It also uses only Willamette hops. So, an American hop and malt, with a lager yeast, I'm guessing, so not near a Pils. It's got a sweetness on the sides and not much bitterness.

Back: I'm getting hot alcohol slightly, sweet pale malt flavor, which is distinct from Pils malt in that Pale malt here is breadier, less toasty and not as crackerish, actually, more like sourdough bread. Not bad, but I really miss the Pils malt, which I think would've made this a great beer. I get some tartness/astringency, not a lot, but enough to be noticeable, but it's combined with a mellower bitterness.

Aftertaste: I got a bitter flavor that lingers a long time.

Mouthfeel: This could pass for a Bock in the mouthfeel category; it's thick enough, and no crispness.

Overall: I don't see why they don't call this a Imperial Pale Lager, rather than a Pale Bock. There's no Bock in it IMO; nonetheless, it's a really good beer. It's nearly WOW, but not exactly wow. I like that it's low in bitterness but still has enough bite and growl to keep the pale ale from being too much. It's a goo.d beer, but I'm disappointed only due to the name. I got a 4.3 of 5 (1,918 characters)

Photo of silverking
3.78/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A- deep golden straw with a thick off-white head. Surprisingly nice lacing.

S- honey, floral hops, toasted grain.

T- grain, alcohol, herbal/grassy hops. There is a light bitterness in the finish.

M- light bodied, moderate amounts of carbonation.

O- I wish that more lagers were like this one. Thoroughly enjoyable, very drinkable, excellent aroma, not too filling. (370 characters)

Photo of DrDemento456
3.81/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A - Quite possibly the clearest helles lager I ever seen almost light beer in color yellow with just a 1/4 inch of head that recedes to a mild lace ring.
S - Very clean lager smells, some grainy bitterness, and some bready malts.
T - Taste is mildly skunky with taste of grassy hops and bready malts. The finish is mildly dry.
M - Lingering bitterness is a bit heavy, light to medium in body.

Overall its a pretty good helles lager but I would prefer other takes on the style. Not bad though. (494 characters)

Photo of mikeg67
3.65/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle. Pours golden with tall, long lasting, fluffy white head and nice lacing. Aroma is of grassy hops and bready malt. Body is medium and smooth. Taste is of grassy, spicy hops and bready malt. Finish is long, dry and spicy. Good, balanced brew. (254 characters)

Photo of Zorro
3.26/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Clear golden colored beer with a tall white colored head.

Smells sweet and slightly nutty with a bitter herbs hop scent. Not really very aromatic.

Starts out mildly sweet with a stronger than expected herbal bitterness. Nutty and herbal with a strong but short live blast of bitterness at the end.

Mouthfeel is OK.

Overall an OK Helles Bock. (345 characters)

Photo of Darkmagus82
3.47/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – Pours a medium amber color with a one finger pure white head. The head fades quite fast leaving very little lace on the sides of the glass and a thin persistent white film on the top of the brew.

Smell – The aroma is heaviest of a grainy smell but has lighter bready smells as well and a decent level of caramel sweetness. A little bit of a grassy and earthy aroma are there as well rounding out the aroma.

Taste – The taste begins with a big bready flavor as well as a quite sweet caramel flavor. The caramel fades toward the middle but is joined by some lighter fruit flavors of grape and pear flavor and some grainy flavors. Some bitter/sour flavors come to the tongue being a bit of lemon and grapefruit. A moderate level of grassy hop comes to the tongue more at the end of the taste along with an increase in the grainy flavors of the brew, to leave a malty and slightly grassy hopped flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is on the average to slightly above average side in terms of its thickness and creaminess with a carbonation that is slightly higher than average. For the bitter and grassy hop flavors the higher carbonation is rather nice, while the medium body is still able to hold the maltier flavors of the brew, so… overall the mouthfeel of the beer is quite appropriate.

Overall – A decent malty brew with a fair level of bitter and sour flavors. Not bad, and well worth a try but nothing super exceptional. (1,520 characters)

Photo of pkalix
4.05/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

purchased on the heels of the bourbon-barrel-aged imperial stout... just to see what these guys are about...
pours a light colored, low-head, pils-type-of-looking brew into a bruery-type tulip glass.... mostly clear, but hazy gold...
smells like fruity lager. like a regular adjuct type of commercial beer....
tastes like a fruity lager, but with some extra SOMETHING... not sure what-maybe it's the alcohol?
overall, it's okay. nothing special. but if you're using this 7%er as a session beer, you're doing very well.... it's easy to drink, although a bit 'twang-y', and not bad I imagine if you've purchased a 6'er and heading home... just don't get too buzzed and beat the girlfriend.... but it is a very decent brew. not my favorite style, but still a very decent brew... aside from the stout, I think I need to see what else this brewery has to offer... (858 characters)

Photo of mvanaskie13
3.88/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Picked up a case from bell beverage on discount.

Poured into a tall pilsner glass, color is gold, head is bright white, very thick and pretty dense. Very enticing and delicious looking.

Smell is nice pilsen malt, maybe some biscuit or bread type scents, some nice hops, grassy/earthy scents.

Taste is nicely malty, pilsen mostly, some biscuit or bread flavors, somewhat lingering flavors; hops are similar to the scent, pleasant bitterness, not fruity, more earthy/grass.

Mouthfeel is tilted towards strong flavors on the tongue, pretty crisp carbonation popping the flavors out; some nice pilsen lingering flavors, maybe some vienna type flavors lingering in the mouthfeel on the tongue as well.

Overall, a very good, tasty brew, taste is a little sweet, but some clean hops to balance, moutfeel is also a bit crisp; still a very tasty brew and solid helles/mai-bock. Quick edit - noted the pale malt used instead of pilsnen, could be why the sweeter flavors. (966 characters)

Photo of brentk56
3.78/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a slightly hazy goldenrod with a wispy head that leaves a lot of dots behind

Smell: Bread and butterscotch; a hint of grassy hops

Taste: Bready, up front, with the butterscotch building in the middle; the grassy hops make an appearance after the swallow and while they linger into the aftertaste, this is one malty brew''

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: Although there is some diacetyl and a sweetness that may indicate some corn in the grist, this is a readily drinkable brew (524 characters)

Photo of DavoleBomb
3.68/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a pils glass.

4.0 A: Clear golden yellow color. Three fingers of frothy off-white head. Retention is pretty good and a great deal of lacing is left.

3.5 S: Grassiness through and through. Hay, floral and earthy hops, moderate neutral malt sweetness, and that lager yeast smell.

3.5 T: Taste is like the nose. Grass, hay, floral and earthy hops, sticky neutral maltiness. Moderate doughiness and could be a bit cleaner, but good enough.

4.5 M: Heavier medium body. Good moderate carbonation. Velvety viscousness with plenty of creaminess. Very nice here.

3.75 D: Good beer with no real flaws. The mouthfeel is awesome. (635 characters)

Photo of stakem
3.31/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Thanks to BA slatetank for gifting me with a bottle of this. The brew pours as advertised, a pale golden color with a rich finger of silky head that fades to a thin film across the top and paints an entire webbing of lacing effect on the glass. Rising bubbles of carbonation maintain a thin film across the top and a swirl revives a finger of yellowish stained froth fairly effortlessly.

The aroma smells like any old adjunct lager. A hint of almost corn-like sweetness blends into a bit of fresh cereal grain to wheaty character which was a bit unexpected for a bock I might say. A mild kiss of alcohol and buttery diacetyl bring this back into the lager spectrum with a pleasant contrast. When the glass is swirled, some sulfur notes evolve along with an unexpected amount of herbal hops. Overall, not a bad smelling brew.

The taste of this brew is a bit more focused with some fruity alcohol esters coming forward overtop a pale malt base that provides some mild sweet grainy appeal. However, I get a mild touch of adjunct almost like corn also in the flavor but that might be an exaggeration based off of the notes of diacetyl and mild sulfur that also emit from this brew. The hops present themselves with an herbal flavor and modest bitterness a bit atypical of a bock.

This is a medium to lighter bodied brew with a modest amount of carbonation. Overall I think it wasnt bad but there were a lot of strange things going on in this that hinted towards bock but with a strange twist. A bit over-hopped, a bit more alcohol driven and lacking in the overall body one might expect. I greatly appreciate the opportunity to try this one Matt, thanks again. (1,659 characters)

Photo of Slatetank
3.67/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

I picked this case up at Breski, enjoyed several bottles so figured why not jot some notes and give a review, enjoyed chilled from a willybecker.
The color is tarnished golden with good clarity and visible carbonation rising to an off white head with avg bead. The smell is lightly mineral with slight spiciness and gentle malt essence with slight alcohol ester. The feel is good with full body almost filling with slightly high bitterness and noticeable alcohol in the texture with semi-dry finish and moderate carbonation.

The flavor is pretty layered considering this is a commercial equivalent of a SMaSH -single malt and single hop maibock -pale malt and willamette hops. The hops are a bit forward in the flavor and the yeast adds some flavor with spiciness accentuated by the moderately high alcohol in the taste. The malt is toasty and slightly thick with low sweetness and generally grainy when combined with the yeast drying alcohol and hops. Overal this is decent but there are better examples of this style from East Coast brewers or Midwest breweries, but for the price it is a better than average pale bock. (1,125 characters)

Photo of Fatehunter
3.78/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured a half finger of head on a clear, golden colored body with only a few bubbles coming up.
The aroma is rich caramel and lemon.
The taste is smooth caramel and honey sweet with a mild bitterness. Great balance.
Soft texture with low carbonation.
It has the lighter and better parts of a bock; great if you aren't keen on the heavy sweetness of a traditional bock. (368 characters)

Photo of TheMarkE
3.94/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Clear amber with nice foamy head and good lacing.

Smell: Biscuity malts and lemon grass hops.

Taste: More of the buscuits and grass, with hints of chocolate. Tastes fresh, good balance.

Mouthfeel: Crisp, medium bodied, and refreshing. Very slight bitter aftertaste, in a good way.

The Verdict: Good stuff. A tasty, well-balanced pale bock that I managed to snag the last couple of bottles of. The LTD series is hit or miss like many seasonals, though it’s usually a hit. This one is definitely a hit. (518 characters)

Photo of artoolemomo
3.55/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Pours a fair amount of foam which is almost pure white with the slightest hints of yellow. The body is a weak straw color with some cloudiness. There is a minimal amount of laciness left behind and the head dissipates rather quickly.

Nose- This has a very typical lager nose to it. Even the bottle says lager on it in addition to referring to it as a pale bock. Some banana and metal sourness. Fairly uninteresting as the aroma of most lagers. Slight breadiness from the malt.

Taste- Despite its characteristic lager smell, this is rather bitter. It's in no way overpowering but it does give structure to an initially unassuming beer. This is back up by some malt, some bread and “classic” “beer” tastes. Nothing special but this is a solid beer. Perfect for a spring or summer day. Plus it has a little more alcohol and more complexity than your commercial crap beer. A slight sweetness makes itself known as this progresses.

Mouthfeel- This is clean and crisp. Light body with just enough carbonation.

Drinkability- As I mentioned before, this is a light and easy beer. There is no indication of its 7 percent. It's also cheap so while this may not wow, it is a solid session beer. I've bought it before and I will be buying it again.

Overall- Nothing spectacular, just a solid brew. I give it a straight up B- (1,341 characters)

Photo of HuskyinPDX
3.22/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

Bottle opened on 3.21.13

A - Pours a clear, light orange with a small off-white head with decent retention.

S - Malty, corn, sweet wheat.

T - Malt, sweet wheat, canned corn, pretty mild.

D - Light body and good carbonation.

O - Light and sweet, not very good compared to others in the series. (297 characters)

Photo of woodychandler
4.11/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I am fully sailing tonight as I watch collegiate hockey championship games. I am unable to fully convey how happy I am to not only have Hood River, OR's finest beer in my state but in my hometown. Life is good.

From the bottle: "What do you get when you brew an elegant Pale Bock with one select barley? The single malt of suds."

What do you get when you nearly invert the bottle when decanting into a shaker glass? A massive three fingers of dense, eggnog-colored head with great retention. Color was a deep gold with NE-quality clarity and suddenly King Midas and Croesus appeared in my kitchen, both licking their chops. The lacing that formed as the head dropped made my jaw drop. My my my. Nose had an unexpected earthiness accompanied by a caramel maltiness. Curiouser and curiouser. "Drink Me!" it cried to me. What sort of host would I be not to comply with the wishes of an invited guest? Mouthfeel was medium, approaching fullness, and I got a bit of heat from it as I swirled it on my tongue. The taste was very earthy with a flavor that I imagine standing in a field of barley in central Canada in the summer would be like. I have been getting smarter about distillation and I would bet that this recipe in a still would create a great single malt whiskey. The inherent heat on the finish made me gasp for breath but overall, it was semi-dry. (1,356 characters)

Photo of katan
3.57/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

12oz into a pint

A - Pours a hazy golden color. Apparently some yeast suspended. White head formation.

S - An unremarkable nose. Some light malts.

T - Starts off lightly malty, not much of anything going on. Starts to show some pilsner style malts, and then some citrus hops. A bit fruity in the finish.

M - Very much lager in the carbonation feel on the tongue. The alcohol doesn't quite sneak through. Some carbonation bite on the finish.

O/D - A beer that doesn't have that much identity between a lager and a ale. Seems to have the malts and hops of an ale and the yeast / carbonation finish of a lager. (615 characters)

Photo of kshizzle101
4/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4

Poured from 12 oz bottle into pint glass

A - Clear golden in color, not a lot of head which dissapates quickly

S - grassy/straw/earthy scents come through along with light hops. A little sweet scent as well

T - Sweet hops, with straw/grassy flavor coming through.

M - great feel, a little sticky, with good carb, goes down smooth

O - very good beer, easy drinking, not too strong. GREAT session beer. (406 characters)

Photo of MighHighBrewer
2.91/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 2.5

I think the description of of this beer is wrong. It's not an American Pale Lager. Full Sail describes it as a Pale Bock. Definitely tastes like a Helles to me. In any case...

Drank a 12-ounce bottle poured into a tulip on 3/10/2013. Best buy date on the bottle is June 9th, 2013.

A: Extremely clear - what you would expect from a lager. Straw colored with a hint of amber. It's definitely a shade darker than a Pilsener. Head pours large, but dissipates rather quickly. Little to no head appears after 5 minutes.

S: Relatively mild aroma overall. Mild notes of grapefruit and lemon. I dont detect any grassiness as other reviewers noted, but I do detect some floral notes. Also detect the faintest hint of butter/diacetyl.

T: Wow - tastes bigger than it looks. Pronounced hoppiness with grassy and floral notes. Solid biscuit/malt base to support the IBUs. Also detect some unexpected honey notes. Unfortunately, I also get pronounced diacetyl flavors....butter mostly. The diacetyl lingers on the tongue.

M: Surprisingly big body. Low carbonation. Just based on mouthfeel, it's an easy-drinker.

O: Unfortunately, I dont think I'll be purchasing this beer again. It has a great appearance and an easy-drinking mouthfeel, but its taste leaves something to be desired. For one, it's too hoppy for a Pale Bock. Full Sail lists this beer as having 45 IBUs, which is just too high for the Bock style (which should be around 20-30 IBUs). If youre a hop-head, you'll like this rendition of the Bock style, but it's just too hoppy for me. Secondly, I get pronounced hits of butter/diacetyl flavors that just dont belong in this beer. The butter notes mixed with the hops isn't pleasing after the first few sips. (1,712 characters)

Photo of AlCaponeJunior
3.62/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

How is this a pale lager? Never mind. The ingredients say it's a pale malt/willamette SMaSH with lager yeast, but the taste says it's a helles bock (although it tastes somewhat similar to my petite saison SMaSH with 3711, lol).

Pours yellow/tan and clear with a white head and decent lacing.

Aroma is yeasty, grainy, grassy, lightly hoppy.

Flavor is again yeasty, grainy, some biscuit, some citrus (lemons), and a balancing hoppiness.

Body is actually fairly full despite the lager yeast. Carbonation is plentiful.

It's a tasty brew. I would say if you're a helles bock lover, try this one. It's a bit of a shock if you're expecting a pale lager (BMC drinkers probably will be intimidated by the abundant flavor). (720 characters)

Photo of garymuchow
3.87/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Grainy aroma and some soft yeast character.
Brilliantly clear and smallish white head.
Full malty character and enough body to give it close to a chewy feel. Flavorful and balanced bittering holding onto a long finish.
Seems like it might have some diacetyl, but it's not detracting from my enjoyment.
Definite warming. Full lager carbonation.
My glass is closer to cellar temp and I will put the rest in the fridge as it may do better there. I have a fondness for bigger lagers and this one fits nicely into that category.
Not quite a bock I suppose, but not fully an Am. lager either. (589 characters)

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LTD Series - 04 from Full Sail Brewery & Tasting Room & Pub
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