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Thumbprint Oud Bruin - New Glarus Brewing Company

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88
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585 Ratings
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Ratings: 585
Reviews: 76
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 11.48%
Wants: 20
Gots: 126 | FT: 27
Brewed by:
New Glarus Brewing Company visit their website
Wisconsin, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  ABV ?

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerFMAndy on 07-01-2014

Our Brewmaster Dan launched his Wild Fruit Cave this winter brewing Oud Bruin, a Flander's style ale that is immensely complex both tart and sweet. Soft toffee notes lead with a blend of Wisconsin, British and German malts that first rested in the Coolship before spontaneously fermenting on oak in the cave. Hallertau hops, matured in the horse barn, elegantly support sparkling fruit notes that frolic before a punctuated oak finish. 100% naturally fermented in oak vessels this is beer that can be enjoyed now or the patient few can lay in their personal cellar to age.
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Ratings: 585 | Reviews: 76
Photo of kudsak
3.94/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Is it muddy amber color with a slightly 10 head. Smells slightly sweet and sour with just a with of yeast. Very sour on the palate with an medium body. Sort of a tart fruity taste. Not my usual beer but very good.

Photo of MissSmisje
3.75/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

From a bottle marked 1704 15:14, poured today. L: medium light brown with a pinky-orange hue, nice head on the pour that dissipates into a sizable collar. Not a particularly attractive color. S: Crystal Light Iced Tea powder, caramel, some dark fruit. T: acidic, toffee, some dark fruit, iced tea, sour and sweet (kind of like umeboshi). I get a tiny bit of metallic flavor in the finish but not nearly the full on metallic flavor others have experienced. F: light, with a little body from the sweetness. Low carbonation - would have liked more.

Photo of gcamparone
3.73/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a snifter.

Pours a light muddy brown , hazy body with an off white head. Leaves some lacing.

Aromas of vinegar, slightly metallic, some caramel and toffee.

Tart and vinegar on the tongue, finish is malty, toffee, somewhat roasty. Mouthfeel is medium body with medium carbonation.

Hmm.. Was Ok, have had better examples of the style.

Photo of American_Hawk
3.05/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Cherry and vinegar in the aroma; very unpleasant metallic taste

Photo of Bosoxfan20
3.49/5  rDev -11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Sweet, crisp, tart, and slightly bready. A good sour for a cool fall night. Body was a little heavy, but flavor profile was ll there.

Photo of HowardTheDuck
4.23/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

This is drinking SO much better than at release. A bit more tartness and a hit of an acetic cherry flavor. I can't be sure the metallic flavor has completely fallen off (hard to be objective when I know how pronounced that flavor was when the beer was fresh) but at a minimum, it's dramatically reduced. This is starting to feel more like a good example of the style rather than an average-to-mediocre one.

Photo of AndyEdgar
2.11/5  rDev -46.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Absolutely terrible. Tasted like a mouthful of pennies and rust. This one did not age gracefully.

Photo of KTCamm
3.63/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2/21...pours reddish amber, white foam, that settles down with some lacing. Sour malty nose. Taste is a subtle sour, somewhat watery. Tart and sweet. Some oak. Woodsy sour, simple. Light carbonation. Citrus pokes through.

Photo of zac16125
4.09/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into a tulip
no bottling dates

Thanks to themadhanner for sending this one over as an extra!


A: Very hazy, nearly opaque, brown with some reddish hues. 2 plus fingers width of tan head builds and has good retention before dissipating down. Leaves tons of lacing. 4

S: Tart, fruity, sweet. Lactic sourness, citrus, banana, caramel, oaky vanilla, subtle noble hop characters. 4.25

T: Definitely on the sweeter side. Lots of caramel, dark fruits. Disappointingly, not many sour characters at all, just a big of lactic acidity. Some nice pleasing oak notes though to go along with the sweetness. 4

M/D: Medium body, carbonation on the lower end, pretty smooth for the style, drinkability is excellent. 4.25

O: Good beer, not great, but well above average. Would have liked more of the sour characters from the aroma to come out in the taste. Enjoyable though, and definitely worth a try. 4

Photo of jlindros
3.63/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Beerness for this one..

Pours a nice creamy fluffy 1 finger head that fades at a med pace with nice soapy lacing, semi hazy slight chestnut tan color. Almost too much head for it, makes me a bit worried...

Nose nice sour mash malts, souring bacteria too I think, some brown ish malts, mild sour fruit, no real funk just bacteria and sour mash.

Taste starts with more sourness, not super sour but nice sour mash and some bacteria souring. Then big buttery oak and a creamy lactose or perhaps diacetyl slimy like feel, hard to tell. Big soured brown malts, toasty and perhaps nutty at one point, with a touch of spices. Mild acidic bite, with flemmy finish, more lingering buttery flavors, oak mostly but perhaps the diacetyl, more sour brown malts, sticky.

Mouth is med bod, little flemmy and sticky also bit slimy, nice carb, mild acidity.

Overall not bad, nice sourness and malt, nice acidity, bit too sticky, nice buttery oak but gets too buttery and slimy perhaps diacetyl but that's weird for this style do probably just the lacto and oak.

Photo of kojevergas
3.31/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

BOTTLE: Brown glass. Iconic branded red & gold pry-off pressure cap. Classy understated label art. 12 fl oz. Huge thanks to Duff27 for the bottle!

Reviewed live at low altitude in Austin, TX.

Vintage: 2014.
ABV: None listed.
Expectations: Extremely high, given the brewery - which may well be the best in the country for my money.

Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated. Served cold into a goblet and allowed to warm during consumption.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: ~1 inch wide. Soft and fragile looking, with a fluffy silky complexion and a loose consistency. It's not thin. Leaves a light coating of lacing on the sides of the glass as it recedes.

Retention: Pretty good; ~5-6 minutes.

BODY: Deep red-brown. Murky and nontransparent. Slightly translucent. Looks nice when backlit. No yeast particles or hoppy sediment is visible.

Appears well-carbonated. It's a generally appealing appearance for an Oud Bruin, but I've definitely seen far better.

AROMA: Lacks the acetic pie crust character I crave in a good oud bruin. The malt bill is odd, with a strange melange of American and German malts rather than the usual Belgian. Depleted indistinct fruit hints might be the best aspect of the aroma, but at best I pick up on some weak date and prune notes. Perhaps a kiss of raisin? The yeast profile comes off oddly German, with notes of clove and even out-of-place banana. The oak is weak and pathetic, and lacks expressiveness. In fact, the aroma as a whole is surprisingly unevocative, though I'd stop short of calling it insipid. There's some strange toffee character which gives this a strange English character.

What happened here? There's no tartness or sourness at all, nor is it really acetic, and the oak is underwhelming. It doesn't even seem Belgian.

Aromatic intensity is oddly light.

I can't say this is anywhere near a good aroma for an oud bruin.

TASTE: Luckily, the taste brings much more acetic pie crust character to the table, and the faint oak emerges a bit more. The malt bill is still a mess, and this lacks the Belgian feel you'd expect, but the banana I perceived in the aroma never manifests in the taste (to its benefit), and it's not too clovey or German in terms of its yeast profile. There're some interesting creamy and toffee notes, but they seem odd in an oud bruin. Muted date and prune notes are the most Belgian flavour this beer has.

The fundamental failing here is the sourness - or rather, the lack thereof. It's not a tart brew by any means, and its sourness intensity is *maybe* a 2/10 at most. I find no lactobacillus bacteria, no real pedio, and no other spontaneous/wild fermentation indicators.

While it's not imbalanced, I think it's fair to say it's unbalanced, and while it has a loose cohesion (probably from the oak, which does tie it together a bit), it never drinks like a gestalt whole, and it's not more than the sum of its parts. Depth of flavour is severely lackluster, and it's too mellow for an oud bruin, lacking the assertive robustness characteristic of the best examples of the style. Did New Glarus really brew this?

Flavour duration: Average.
Flavour intensity: Low.
Flavour amplitude: Average.

I do like it, but I hoped for so much better given the brewery.

TEXTURE: This is where the beer shines. This has the delicate fragile feel only found in truly world-class beers; it just lacks the taste to harmonize with. Creamy, angelically soft, and decadently smooth and wet, with a refreshing presence on the palate. It's not as smacky, acetic, or even acidic as you'd hope for given it's meant to be an oud bruin, but this is more a result of the lack of bacteria in the taste than it is a problem with the mouthfeel per se.

Not oily, gushed, hot, boozy, astringent, harsh, rough, or scratchy.

This is oddly well-executed, with perfect carbonation, and easily eclipses the taste in terms of the best attribute of this beer. How could they get the mouthfeel so right and yet the taste so wrong?

OVERALL: Too light in its bacteria and not sour enough, New Glarus' Oud Bruin is too mellow and reticent for its own good, sabotaging its delivery of flavour when it should be playing to depth and intricacy. Balanced, sure, but shallow. The mouthfeel is wonderful, but doesn't have much flavour to support and/or accentuate. I'm not sure if they underpitched the bacteria cultures and/or yeast, but this needs serious tuning. I like what little wood presence there is. This is a rare miss from New Glarus, but is still worth trying and is certainly above average, with stellar drinkability.

Low B- (3.32)

Photo of David_Menendez
2.77/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Very metallic. Not the best representation of the style.

Photo of acostuhhh
4.86/5  rDev +24%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Perfectly balanced sour, smells delicious. Color is murky, but still appealing.

Photo of Jacurdy60
3.94/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A-Pours a hazy brown color with an almost purple hue. Thick cream colored head that retains well and clings to the glass.

S-Dark fruits similar to a quad, sour lemons, funky yeast, some oakiness in there as well

T-Tart up front. Fades into something sour and finishes with a twinge of sweetness that blends well with a vanilla, oaky profile. Complex.

MF-Medium bodied and a bit creamy with a crisp, light finish.

O-This is my second Flanders and I like this one much more. Complex taste and not overpoweringly sour. Pretty creamy but also refreshing.

Photo of humuloner22
4.2/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

I received this one on a trade. Its not bad! I appreciate the extra man!

Appearance: Reddish brown, decent amount of head retains well throughout the drinking of this one.

Aroma: Tart, some tart fruits in there like cherry, but nothing very dominant overall. Some dried cranberry and some other dried fruit notes in there. Perhaps currants as well?

Taste: Pretty straightforward. Nice tartness but nothing overwhelming. It was not a flavor bomb in any respect but a solid beer for the style. I have had more interesting "sour" beers lately but this is a good beer for sure. Very creamy mouthfeel too, which I can appreciate as a textural note.

Overall: This is a very nice offering. I would drink it again and if it were available where I live I would probably try to pick up some, I am not sure how it is packaged. Nevertheless, it is solid and enjoyable, especially one to end the night on.

Photo of Phocion
3.67/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into a Petrus glass. Muddy copper body with a finger and a half of frothy beige head. Excellent retention and thick sheets of lacing remain on the glass.

The nose is a well-balanced combination of malts and yeast. Big, rich caramel and toffee maltiness gently collides with figgy, raisiny, and black cherry-like esters. Oaky and vinous characters as well as light spicy phenols. There's also an almost cidery and slightly vinegar-like sourness.

Flavor follows the nose overall, but without much of the complexity. The sourness is subtle but also slightly acetic, which is somewhat unpleasant. Lots of woody and sherry flavors with a slightly sweet caramelized malty backbone. Indistinguishable fruits play together. Relatively fast-dying finish.

Medium bodied and moderately carbonated. Slightly chewy and sticky.

Overall, this isn't a bad beer but it doesn't match up to really great Belgian Oud Bruins. The balance in the nose is good, but the sourness (subdued as it may be) is more acetic and doesn't quite match the malty sweetness. I'm not terribly impressed with the beer overall or as an example of the style.

Photo of SaCkErZ9
3.28/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks go to atone315 for this one. I am far from an expert in anything sour, so I am not exactly sure what to expect. Consider this review one from a sour noob.

Pours into a New Belgium snifter a murky brown color with a nice, stiff, tan head that lasts forever. Tons of lacing and the head stays about one finger for nearly the entire session.

Aroma is slightly sour with belgian type yeast aroma, tart lemon rind, slight apple component, touch of some kind of funkiness.

Flavor is decent. Sharp and acidic. More lemons and salt. Seems to be more of a green apple flavor than was apparent in the aroma. Quite tart on the finish. I kind of like it. Although nice, everything seems kind of muddled and slightly muted. Not as bright as I think it should be.

A decent beer. Clean and somewhat refreshing, as most tart, sour beers are. I liked it but since sours type beers aren't a style to which I gravitate, I wouldn't have this again (mostly because of costs).

Photo of Ballington_Brewer
3.04/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Overcarbonated, made a mess of my counter
Smell is cherry and light oak. Flavor is tart but lacking much character that I can put my finger on. Sweet aftertaste is kind of off putting.
Disappointed overall, but I'm compring against their other sour efforts, which are some of my favorites. (Wild ale, cran bic)

Photo of Davepoolesque
4/5  rDev +2%

Lots of cherry smell. On the light side. Bright tasting. Short finish.

Photo of Ready4aHeady
3.5/5  rDev -10.7%

very nice.... a new style for me, sour and sweet. complex.

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.06/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

i was the only one in my group impressed by this, and i have to explain it like this. if you are looking for a belgian type old world oud briun, this is not your beer. this is uniquely american, more than that, uniquely wisconsin, and i dug it a whole lot. lighter in color, beige and brown together with a caramel tint and a tall fizzy off white head. it smells like a funked out raw apple cider, tart enough, but thats only one element among several. the apple fruitiness is really cool, the grain isnt the least bit sweet, and the yeast profile is a nice mix of acidity building bacteria and classic farmhouse tang. lighter in body and feel than any belgian take ive had, with some of the most intensely effervescent carbonation out there and only a medium body at the most. the beer finishes forever, its like a musty old decaying wooden cider press, the kind of thing you appreciate and revere, even if its less useful than it once was, or usurped by some more modern technology in the name of efficiency or profit or labor reduction. i for one love what i get here, a nice slice of vintage americana in a belgian style ale, unlike any other out there.

Photo of cambabeer
3.76/5  rDev -4.1%

Sours aren't usually my thing. This one was good. nice tart and sweet at the same time. Very malty in the aftertaste. The nose was full of oak and whisky. Smell had more alcohol than did taste. Much more drinkable than a lot of this style (for me...)

Photo of Treyliff
3.69/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle, poured into oversized wine glass

A- pours a murky brown color with some reddish tint around the edges, small creamy off-white head eventually reduces to a thin film floating on top, leaving behind some nice lacing

S- tart balsamic vinegar aroma up front quickly followed by a huge vanilla oak barrel aroma that gives notes of caramel, black cherry and earth. Fruity aromas of green apple skin, lemon & peach

T- tart and puckering on the tongue up front with balsamic vinegar and caramel sweetness. Mid-palate is actually pretty uneventful and almost watery on the palate. As it nears the finish, oaky vanilla kicks in with a bit of toffee sweetness, with a fruity linger

M- medium body with low carbonation leads to a fizzy mouthfeel and a bone dry tart finish

O- this one good potential, but the mid-palate was just to watery to match the tart finish. Perhaps some age will help

Photo of Immortale25
3.96/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Haw River Farmhouse Ales teku glass. No freshness date.

A- Pours a reddish light brown color with a 1/2 inch light tan head that retains decently before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and a bubbly center patch of surface foam. Resilient cobwebs of lacing.

S- Lactic acid aroma makes my tongue salivate slightly. The barrel presence is kind of heavy on this one as the oakiness soon drowns out the fruitiness first put forth.

T- The elements are less separated in the flavor as the fruity sweetness combined with the light sourness and mild oak notes make for a coherent flavor profile. Slight metallic taste and a bitter cherry aftertaste.

M- A bit dry with a lower level of tartness. Medium carbonation and a body leaning toward the fuller side.

O- Though the flavors marry well together, I was looking for both a tad more sweetness and a tad more sourness. Still, a pretty easygoing sour that I would recommend to someone trying to break in to the style.

Photo of SportsandJorts
4.04/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Appearance: This beer pours a deep. dark garnet red, with earthy and brown tones. It almost looks the color of old leather. With a moderately aggressive pour, a big two to three finger foamy brown head forms. The foam sticks around in clumps all over the top of the beer and leaves behind long streaky lacing all over the glass. The beer is completely opaque but has shows a nice bright red when held up to the light. (4.25/5)

Smell: The nose starts off with sweet malty notes, ranging from a medium caramel to rich toffee. After the initial sweetness comes in a large variety of fruitiness, with notes of lemon juice, black cherries, and green apple skin. There is a moderate amount of tart/sour characteristics along with a distinct oak note. (4/5)

Taste: The flavor opens up with a shot of lemon juice. As it opens up the dark berries to cherry flavor comes through. Some slight green apple skin sourness comes through in the middle. The backend is full of sweet malty characters along with a little bit of oaken, earthy funk. The sweetness comes in fairly blended with notes of caramel and toffee. (4/5)

Mouthfeel: The overall feel on this one is medium to full bodied. Some of the lemon acidity plays through, but overall the pH is fairly neutral. Some funkiness and sourness creates a little bit of stickiness being left behind. There is little to no noticeable alcohol, and the bitterness is very low. (4.25/5)

Overall: This beer is good right now, but not quite as flavorful as it could be. All the flavors I want are there; I just believe some age or maybe some slight alterations in the recipe or process could really bring out some strong and tasty characteristics. Luckily I have some more to see how it develops overtime. (4/5)

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Thumbprint Oud Bruin from New Glarus Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 585 ratings.