Ramstein Classic - High Point Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
85
very good

95 Ratings
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Ratings: 95
Reviews: 81
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 14.02%
Wants: 7
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
High Point Brewing Company visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Dunkelweizen |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 01-28-2002

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Ratings: 95 | Reviews: 81
Photo of dsa7783
2/5  rDev -47.1%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Really wasn't too impressed... Although a decent beer, for a company that claims to specialize in wheat beers, they could've done alot better with this one... This tastes, looks, and smells more like a stout than a wheat beer, and after spending $7.75 on a six-pack, I was kind of dissapointed by the overall lack of complexity and bland flavor that predominated this brew. I'm pissed I wasted almost eight bucks on a brew that I basically had to force down rather than enjoy... No real wheat flavor in here, but more traces of cocoa and bittersweet chocolate...

Photo of flexabull
3.94/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy brown color, with a faint head.

Smells biscuit like, also notice sweet grains, and roasted malts.

Taste is creamy and nutty. Nice roasted malt character, some underlying sweetness, and a bit of a tart toasty finish.

Mouthfeel is nice and full.

Drinkability is good. This is a nice easy drinking dunkel. Session worthy as well.

Photo of Wasatch
3.5/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to NeroFiddled for this brew.

Pours a nice clean/clear dark brown color, nice carbonation, tiny fizzy head which does not last long, not sticky lacing at all. The nose is malty, yeasty, some bananna, clove, and caramel. The taste is malty, slighty yeasty, touch of bananna/clove, lots of caramel. Medium body. Drinkable, a nice brew for a hot day.

Photo of Phatz
4.05/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks gottajiboo2 for bringing and sharing this beer.

Appearance: Pours a copper brown color with crimson hues a white head and some lacing.

Smell: Sweet caramel malts just a hint of banana esters but not too much almost stretching to detect. Wheat and a hint of cocoa.

Taste: Smooth and malty as it enters the mouth. Slowly flavors of wheat and dark fruit drizzled with caramel touch the taste buds. There is a toasted grain attribute and very little cocoa and toffee to leave you with. It maybe low in the fireworks and glamour depot but it is high in the approachability and drinkability department.

Mouthfeel: Light in the mouth but a pleasantly smooth texture glides easily over the tongue and down the throat.

Drinkability: This is a really easy drinking beer in my book. It is one worthy of a case purchase. Especially good drinking when you want to drink a few.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!

Photo of SilentSabre
3.24/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Overall, I felt this was pretty average for the style. Certainly a good drink, but nothing spectacular. Poured a moderately cloudy dark red colour with a 1/2 inch layer of sand coloured foam that faded away in about 25 seconds, leaving a ring of frost about its edges. Smell was very nice consisting of roasted wheat kernels and chewy caramel candy. Quite nice. Taste was average having the proper flavour profiles for the style, but finishing up with a surprising bitterness. It wasn't offensive at all. In fact, it was very mild. It's just that I wasn't expecting *any* bitterness from a brew of this sort. So far, I like Ramstein's Winter Wheat the best. This is, however, decent at least.

Photo of DrJay
3.47/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Deep chestnut colour topped by a short, light brown head. Fizzy bubbles that dissipate quickly and leave a bit of lace behind. Malty aroma composed of toasty, lightly chocolate grains and a mild yeasty bite. Sweet, malty flavour that you get out of some better German beers. Mild breadiness with a light fruit character as well. It finishes with a dry cocoa flavour. Medium bodied with carbonation a little on the low side. Not bad, nothing spectacular though. I enjoyed it, but it didn't make a huge impression on me.

Photo of plaid75
4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a medium cloudy brown hue with a two finger foamy white head. There was good retention and lacing.

The smell featured a nice toasted grain and a good yeasty aroma.

The taste was nicely balanced with a solid toasted malt and a good spicy yeast.

The mouthfeel was a bit chewy, yet crisp.

Overall a nice American rendition of the dunkel weizen.

Photo of jwc215
3.53/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours dark brown with a decent-sized off-white head.

The smell is of mild, earthy grain and a hint of sweet malt. Not bad - not expected for style.

The taste is of an earthy, roasted wheat grain upfront. A sweet malt (mild chocolate?) comes through as support and balance. The flavors aren't bad, but on the weaker side, especially the yeast.

It thins just a tad. It's fairly crisp and smooth. The flavors could have held on a bit longer.

Not bad, but could use more yeast to give it more body. It also could use more depth and character and fit the style better. Worth trying anyway. They should also write ""dunkel" or "dark" on the label, for clarification, IMO.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.53/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dusky reddish bronze with orange peel edges. The white toast brown head is impressively tight-bubbled and displays a great deal of longevity as a result. When it finally relents, a more than respectable amount of thick, smeary lace is seen on the glass. Classic is one of the darker dunkels that I've seen and is a fine looking beer.

The nose isn't as fine. It's toasted brown malty with a minor contribution from earthy hops. Is the style correct? I notice that style isn't mentioned on the label or on the High Point website; although 'dark wheat beer' becomes dunkel weizen when translated to German, so I guess I just answered my own question. Where are the banana esters and the clove spice? I don't have an answer for that one.

A little better on the palate, although not enough to earn a higher score. At least there's some degree of spiciness now, which could just as easily be coming from the Tettnanger hops as the wimpy yeast strain. Heavily toasted grain (wheat and barley presumably) comprises the vast majority of the flavor profile, with a little cocoa and bruised apple fruitiness thrown in for good measure.

I'm disappointed at the lack of depth, the lack of complexity. A superb yeast strain is vital in the brewing of a superb hefe or dunkel weizen and High Point's yeast just isn't up to the task. The finish is simply an extension of what came before with a little extra bitterness tacked on as an afterthought.

The body/mouthfeel is appropriately light, but misses the boat in terms of volume (also known as mouthfilllingness) due to a shortage of carbonation. Even though I'm not usually big on bubbles, some styles and some beers--like this one--need the perkiness that they provide.

I expected a little more than I got from this bottle of Ramstein Classic. Any brewery that specializes in weizens ought to nail a dunkel with their eyes closed. High Point needs to keep them both wide open though because they damn near missed the target entirely. This is still worthwhile beer, but the brewery's claim that it's 'the highest rated dark wheat beer in the world' borders on delusional.

Photo of mjc410
3.48/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

A vigourous pour into a Weizen glass produces a relatively short (for a wheat) head, very tan. The liquid is dark brown and translucent. Smelling brings forth only a light dark roast, and perhaps some vanilla. The taste, the best part, is very roasty, and almost like a stout. It has a slight wheat "twang" as I like to call it, but much less than expected. The mouthfeel is not as thick as I would like, too little for a dunkel. Still, it's enjoyable, but perhaps this beer has been miscategorized, because it's missing a lot of traditional dunkel weizen characteristics.

Photo of soultrain
4.13/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured into a Mahr's Weisse glass.

A-Dark reddish amber beer that is totally clear. 2 1/2" beige head froth settles to 1/2" in a minute and remains for the duration of the beer. Good lacing all down the glass.
S-Caramel, caramel, and more caramel.
T-Whoa, this tastes way lighter than the way it smells and looks. Caramel dissolves into mild clovey hazelnut that dissolves into a finely carbonated ether. The chalk dry aftertaste only inspires more quaffing.
M-The carbonation in this beer is almost perfect, and lasts for the duration.
D-Wicked light, killer drinkability.

CRUX: NICE DUNKEL FROM NEW JERSEY. Ah, for once I got lucky on a blind purchase at the beer store. I'll get it again, for sure!

Photo of jaluria
4.18/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

My 1st beer from HPW and what a beer it was. I bought a 6-pack of this from Oak Tree Buy Rite.

Poured a slightly hazy, medium-brown color with plenty of carbonation and frothy cream-colored head. A good amount of lacing was left behind in my weizen glass. Aromas of caramel, grains (bread-like), dried pairs, and candy. The taste was filled with fruit and grain flavors with an ever-present caramel note that seemed to dominate the finish. Smooth and just slightly creamy, this beer was very refreshing on a hot summer day, while watching a World Cup semi-final. Easy to sip and even easier to quaff, this was a rich and flavorful beer with loads of complexity and a great texture.

I can't wait to try other beers from the HPW beer company.

Photo of JerzDevl2000
4.27/5  rDev +13%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked this up recently, since I can't recall the last time I had any of High Point's offerings. I forgot what this beer looked like - like many reviewers on here, I could have sworn this looked and tasted like a class hefe. When I saw the pour and head form, it was obvious that I was pretty wrong! Nevertheless, this was very enjoyable and a solid brew.

Very nice pour - the beer had an almond hue with some burnt-reddish edges to it, and a nice frothy head. Almost no lacing to be found, but the taste more than made up for it. Very light, but very filling at the same time. Lots of caramel and clove here, with some banana and a very bready undertone and aftertaste to it. The one grew on me really quick, since it has the lightness in a summer beer but with the flavors and complexity of an Octoberfest. The aftertaste lingered a while too, like an Octoberfest would, but there wasn't any spice to be found here. Very little bitterness, but that's not a factor when drinking this. The flavors work wonderfully together and this one goes down nice and easy!

Even though it's 5.5% ABV, this is a great change for a summer brew...for those who want a bit more kick and flavor in their session beers. I really wish that High Point's offerings were more easily found, as I live 15-20 miles from their brewery and I have a very hard time finding any of their selection around here. They have a great yeast strain from Germany in their beers, and all of the one I've tried were full-bodied, well crafted, and above average in their respective styles. This one is no exception - a wonderful choice for a wide range of beer enthusiasts!

Photo of yelterdow
3.9/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Fresh sixer from A&P Fresh in Midland Park, NJ. Manager Jerry Ferraro is doing great things with his department, and great craft beers are currently being integrated into the mix.

Served in a Brooklyn Weissbier glass at over fridge temperature.

Appearance- All these years I thought this was a hefe... damn... first time actually *seeing* the beer's color! Pours a deep, hazy, dark raisin with a bone white head that tops out at about two fingers. Thick looking brew, time to smell...

Smell- Huge wheat, banana, clove, molasses, and fudge. Decaying leaves, woodlice. Phenols, metal as the beer is swirled around in the glass.

Taste- Interestingly, this beer doesn't pour on the sweet, fudgy, malty array of flavors that I would have expected from the aromas. Instead, a rather light, wheaty, and surprisingly citrusy character is present. A definite note of lemon rind is buried in here somewhere.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- Great, foamy effervescence in the mouth, although it's a lightweight compared to many others. Easy and smooth, it drinks effortlessly and doesn't fill me up. A good beer for a hot day, when a more full flavored, lighter bodied beer is fancied.

Photo of weeare138
3.48/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to the wife, K.I. for grabbing this at The Drafting Room-Exton for me...
Appears a hazy red toned brown with a thick white head that fades into a collar. Scattered lacing is left all over the glass.
Smell is of light dusty cocoa, clove, and some wheat with light caramel in there.
Taste is of te same aromas.
Mouthfeel is watery, thin, cocoa powder and cloves and sticking to the front of the tongue until finally dying out.

Photo of porter17
4.62/5  rDev +22.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I haven't had this beer in awhile and I am sorry that I waited so long. I forgot how goo it is. Served on-tap, the appearance was a nice brownish-red with some clarity and an amber hue. The smell was full of aromas, including lemon, chocolate and caramel flavors which were more pronouced than I had expected. The taste was just out of this world. Well balanced, it exuded a confident yet not overpowering "dark" feel and taste while not forgeting that it is, afterall, a weizen. A solid mouthfeel, I could have had many of these had time permitted.

Photo of joeskirkie
4.1/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I came home direct from the brewery with a sixer and a Ramstein branded weizen glass.

In said glass the classic is very cloudy almost opaque cola color, good off white head that laces ok.

Some grains in the aroma, also subtle fruityness and some roasted breadyness.

Grains in the flavor too, good ones. A smooth roasted character thats delightful.

It's a light to medium bodied brew, and talk about a session... this one's a winner

Photo of whartontallboy
2.72/5  rDev -28%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Pours out a murky cola-brown color with almost no head. What head there was vanished in seconds, and there was no streaming carbonation afterwards.

Smell is interesting, lots of banana and clove scents, some bubblegum and other spices, and a slightl doughiness.

Malty and sweet flavor, with hints of the clove spiciness and some banana and peachy fruit flavors entering in as well. The lack of carbonation gives a pretty dead mouthfeel, though, and after a time it kind of becomes too sweet and too syrupy. The flavor's not bad, but the dead mouthfeel really kills it.

Overall: I thought maybe I had an undercarbonated bottle, but it looks like a lot of the other reviews mention tiny/no head and not much carbonation. I'll pass on this one next time.

Photo of IrishRedRock
3.42/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured into my Weisse glass a clear yet deep brown chestnut color; head was pretty weak, only leaving minimal lacing. There's not a lot of carbonation in this, in either the appearance or on the palate. Could use a bit more...kinda flat. Toasty caramel and clove spiciness in the nose. Flavor leaves a bit to be desired considering the aroma is fairly complex. Hazelnut and clove are detectable along with some earthy bread and yeast. More flavor in the finish and aftertaste than anywhere else. Too thin and lacking carbonation. Other than that, it's not too bad.

Photo of Foxman
4.12/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It pours a hazy, milk chocolate brown, like straight iced coffee. A very sparing light brown head dies promptly.

The aroma asserts a fog of malt sweetness, bearing gifts of dark fruit, cocoa, soy, vanilla, baked dough, and is that…is it…yes, it’s custard.

The first sip brings a toasted malt fruitiness along with sweet cherries and a mild nip of plums. Swaths of vanilla and a leathery earthiness work to begin drying the whole. The end approaches with a strain of toasted bread blended with a moderately dry, clingy finish in tow. An intriguing blend, its substantial and satisfying.

Medium bodied, it wraps around the palate but never cloys. The finish is quick, but happily busy.

It starts by getting you to believe it’s a garden of earthly delights, and if it falls short of Eden, it’s not by too much. The aroma is busy but so enticing, and the flavor is pared down in comparison but very pleasurable. It seems to weight a bit heavy while drinking, so this places a small limitation on how many one might have, but it’s so smooth and tasty, and the wheat downright satisfies. It’s not often that I wouldn’t be in the mood for one or two of these.

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.47/5  rDev +18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Imagine my surprise as I poured this classic wheat beer into my glass and found it to be a clear mahogany with crimson highlights!!!! I thought for sure the bottle had been mislabeled. I checked the label and saw no mention of it's being "dark" or a "dunkel". Fortunately I was able to log on here to BA and check it out... ...yep, this is a dunkel weizen! And good for me, I love the style!

The creamy off-white head is surprisingly challenged for a weizen (even a filtered dunkel), and it drops readily to a thin collar. The nose, however, is quite enticing with an alluring note of toasty and lightly roasted chocolate. It's medium-light bodied and quite smooth across the palate; which is more appropriate for a dunkel weizen than a traditional Bavarian hefe--weizen hell. The flavor is rich and rewarding without being overly-done; lending to its drinkability. It's got a light touch of yeasty bubblegum, some appleish fruit, mellow caramel, a bit of nuttiness, and some more of the toasty and slightly roasty chocolate found in the nose. Spicy hops accent it, and a firm bitterness balances it superbly. It finishes dry with some residual phenolic "bubblegum" that fades to a dull, lingering, almost coffee-like roastiness. It's somewhat complex, and certainly satiating, but at the same time far from overdone and immensely drinkable! This is very similar to some of the dunkel weizens that I've had from the Franconia region. Superb!

Photo of SixpointJMH
4.01/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This one pours a nice dark brown colour, yet is strangely missing any sort of head or stickiness and seemingly lacks a lot of carbonation. It almost looks like a flat glass of soda after it sits for a few minutes.

Thankfully the smell and flavour make up for any shortcomings in the appearance department. The smell is a nice combination of roasted malt, sweet caramel and perhaps some licourice and even some fruit (plum?) notes.

The flavour is right up there, though maybe a bit more subdued than the smell. The roasted malt flavour hits throughout and theres a nice sweetfinish comnibed with some wheat flavour in the back.

Mouthfeel here is decent though a bit undercarbonated, as mentioned earlier.

Overall this is a nice beer. Very tasty and easy drinking. If the carbonation issue was remedied here this could/should be a world calss brew.

Photo of NJpadreFan
2.55/5  rDev -32.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Ramstein Classic

Appearance- light yellowish with very lttle head. some soapy bubbles on top.
Smell- light hay and crab grass some cloves as well
Taste- light banana, clove, wheat/ bread, yeast flavor.
Mouthfeel- very watery and easy too down.

Overall- yet, another hum-drum beer that will be all to easy to forget. Not horrible but not worth another purchase.

Photo of OldSock
3.51/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Presentation and Appearance – 12 oz bottle, probably a bit warmer than it should be, poured into a weizen glass. The beer is brown with ruby highlights when held to the light. It is not as hazy as most wheat beers, and the head is diminutive for a weizen. This is a pretty sad looking wheat beer.

Smell – The smell is right on, bananas and cloves along with a darker bready, yeasty aroma. This brew shows promise yet.

Taste – Not without its charm, but too toned down for me. Its mostly just a watery malt flavor with hints of vanilla and yeast. It lacks the complexity of the great wheat beers, but it is pleasant. It has a bit of sourness to it that is uncommon in the style, but refreshing. The taste simply does not live up to the promise that the nose gives.

Mouthfeel – Smooth lightish-medium body, low carbonation. Eh?

Drinkability and Notes – Decent local wheat beer, but not in the same class with the Europeans versions. I bought this bottle a while ago, its possible I should have drank it sooner, but I did take good care of this one.

Photo of beveragecaptain
3.97/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle. This beer pours the same color as cola. Not very much head. The aroma is of wheat, banana, nuts, and a little chocolate. Roasted malt flavor, wheat body, and clean finish. A little sour flavor gives this beer some tang. The mouthfeel is creamy. Great drinkability. This is a pretty good dunkel, just not quite as complex or full flavored as their Blonde wheat or Winter Wheat.

Ramstein Classic from High Point Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 95 ratings.