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Ramstein Classic - High Point Brewing Company

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Ramstein ClassicRamstein Classic

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BA SCORE
85
very good

94 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 94
Reviews: 80
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 14.32%
Wants: 7
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
High Point Brewing Company visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Dunkelweizen |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 01-28-2002)
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Photo of Hojaminbag
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The body of Ramstein Classic is a shade of light bronze that is surprisingly light in color. A finger or so of tightly bubbled white head has average retention at best, and leaves behind no lacing.

Very malty nose. Toasted malt, crackers, a touch of banana and hops.

The flavor has a slight coriander spiciness to it, with a dose of noble hops. Banana comes next and is a bit more powerful than the spice or hops, but the malt dominates the flavor profile of Ramstein Classic. Toasted malts along with grain and cracker flavors are strongest.

The mouthfeel is pretty highly carbonated, which doesn't hurt or help anything.

I expected a little more out of this one, but overall it is a decent beer.

Hojaminbag, Feb 11, 2010
Photo of deereless
3.43/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: A good two inches of head on a hard pour, the color of a light molasses , minimal amounts of lacing- 3.75, S: Tons of toasted malts, some caramel and faint chocolate hazelnut, strong clove aroma - 4.25, T: The hop bite is quite noticeable and imparts an earthy and herbal flavor, quite a bit of lemon and citrus, some caramelized sugars and a slight toffee - 3.50, M: Thin mouth feel - 2.75, D: All is all a decent beer, the mouth feel does leave a little to be desired and seems to detract from the overall experience, I would drink the beer again - 3.00

deereless, Jan 24, 2010
Photo of tjd112
3.88/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into Flying Fish pint glassAppearance is a dark brown colour with a fast dissipating off-white head and little lacing. Smell is boozy with hints of banana split. A somewhat dry taste of dark coffee and bananas, borderlining on that of a stout. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, and though it is a drinkable beer in sessions, I find this to be the poor man's Aventinus

tjd112, Dec 04, 2009
Photo of scootny
3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A slightly better effort than the Blonde Wheat I think, ( their hefe ) but still... A nice deep brown with a tan head of shaving cream consistency. Pretty good retention with some lacing here and there. Active carbonation.

Smell is fruity with a light soapiness. Some clove and a bit of wheat.

Taste has the same profile as the nose. Cloves are a bit more prominent but so is the soap. The banana comes through lightly as it warms up and helps to round out the flavor. Feel is crisp and effervescent in a refreshing way

Pretty easy to drink but the flavor makes you ask why? Not exactly bad but again when you have "High Point Wheat Beer Co." on the label my expectations go up and once again I am disappointed. I hope the highly rated Winter Wheat fares better

scootny, Nov 30, 2009
Photo of tpd975
3.05/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Pours a nice dark brown hue, expected a hefe, who knew it was a dark wheat? The head is tall and a nice shade of dark khaki. Very pillow like wonderful retention with nice chunky lace.

S: The roast comes out nicely. Lots of caramel and chocolate up front. The banana is there (somewhat over ripe aromas) along with nice spice.

T: It does not taste as good as it looks or smells. Rather subtle to be honest. Mostly roast up front, not bold at all though. Very subtle spice with the slightest of hint of banana estered yeast.

M: Very snappy on the tongue, almost sharp to be honest.

D: So So. This one stared off great. Was sort of downhill from there.

tpd975, Aug 13, 2009
Photo of matty
3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown beer with a rapidly fading head.Aroma is banana,cloves and malts.Taste is toasted malts and cloves.Overall a decent beer with a nice faded smoky aftertaste.I would recommend to try at least once and I think think this is something I would purchase again!!

matty, Mar 21, 2009
Photo of TurdFurgison
2.73/5  rDev -27.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

I found this at BierKraft in NYC, sold as singles. Poured into an Andechs weisse glass, I'm surprised at the dark color. I thought this would be a hefeweizen but BA lists it as a dunkel weizen. The beer smells kind of lactosy, definitely a wheat beer but not as much phenol as I'd prefer. Same with the taste, I don't get much banana or clove. Maybe this is an old bottle, hard to say as this is the first time I've tried the beer. Just not pleasant. I drank the whole thing but didn't really enjoy it.

TurdFurgison, Feb 16, 2009
Photo of confer
3.05/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

It's alive

This beer had to be poured very slowly as it exploded out of the bottle. When the monster tan head calmed down a cola looking beer remained. Very dark almost opaque, it looked nice.

The smell was fresh ans lightly malty.

This tastes like the little brother of the Winter Wheat from High point. To malty for my liking.

It was not at all what I was expecting. Doesn't taste anything like a Weizen.

confer, Jan 25, 2009
Photo of csmiley
3.4/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours dark and cola brown and almost opaque. The tan head topped out at just over an inch. Retention was good but only a minor amount of lace made any attempt to adhere to the side of the glass.

S - Wheat is up front in the aroma but not as much as I would have liked. Quickly following the wheat is some caramel and chocolate. Some spiciness bring up the rear and stays pretty mild.

T - Wheat stands out even less in the flavor. It is up front but just not enough. Chocolate, yeast, and caramel start to come in about midway. Alcohol and a sharp spice show up to finish it off but stay in a distant background.

M - Medium bodied with average carbonation. Finish stays pretty sweet throughout.

D - Drinkability is just above average. Most everything about this beer is about average. I could have more of these but really don't have a desire to. It goes down easy but that is just because of an uneventful smell and flavor. Overall, not bad. Not really that good either.

csmiley, Jun 17, 2008
Photo of AltBock
3.38/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle that has a simple label of the Ramstein symbol and a brief description about the beer at the bottom. Make sure to look on the side for a best before month notch. Mine was best before July. I still have no clue on what year it was, but it was more than likely best before July 2008.

I had no other choice, but to pour it into a Weizen glass. What came out of the bottle was a mahagony brown colored beer that had some black cherry highlights. It had a beautiful massive beige colored head of foam. Not only was it beautiful, but it had excellent retention that left behind a small beige film and streak after streak of beige lace. It had a light dark aroma of toasted malts, a few cloves, a quick splash of lemon, subtle sweet caramel, bread, and then it ended with a touch of ripe banana. The taste started off mild with toasted malts and a hint of caramel, but then after that it went sour and tart with lemon, grapefruit, and citrus hops. Of course the mouthfeel was light, but this Dunkelweizen has an a lightly sour aftertaste of grapefruit and lemons. In the end, it's clearly not a great Dunkelweizen, but it is a nice little take on a German stlye from a great NJ brwery.

AltBock, Apr 02, 2008
Photo of sleazo
3.85/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A_The first thing that strikes me here is that there seems to be less beer in the bottle and more headspace than other 12ozers. This however does not appear to be a problem as the small bottle completely fills up a half litre weizen glass. A four(five?) finger foamy eggshell head sits atop a hazy dark brown liquid. A stream of bubbles cascade up to the top giving the head wonderful staying power. Nice to look at indeed.

S_Slight phenol and ester aromas push through a caramel sort of malt. On the tame side.

T_mildly sweet up front with a good ammount of yeast coming through. Heavy on cloves in the middle and the end with a slight banana quality as it warms. The slightly medicinal hop bitterness also comes through midsip. The aftertaste besides tasting of clove returns to a caramel and sweet slight roasted malt.

M_SLightly below medium bodied and very effervescent. I would say this is perhaps slightly too carbonated.

D_Very interesting beer. Not on par with the Germans but a very good shot from an American brewery and one that ends up being unique at that.

sleazo, Mar 14, 2008
Photo of beerthulhu
3.98/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark burgundy-cola color with a tan head. Nice dunkel wheat. Very dark color. Sweet raisins, syrup, and dried fruit on nose. Some alcohol on nose as well. Flavor is very rich and full of fresh plums, sweet raisins, and bread. Drinks more like a strong Belgian or wheat bock. Starts out very sweet from the syrupy sweet raisin and dried fruit hints and finishes with some dry burgundy notes. Theres a slight woody character to the wine like palate as well. Good drinkability, very smooth palate, with some alcohol detection. A solid good beer.

beerthulhu, Jan 18, 2008
Photo of tempest
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a pretty cool, old-school wheat beer and not your average dunkel. It's very aromatic and has any earthy feel that backed my spiced cocoa and roasted grains, almost like a brown ale or porter. The mouthfeel is a nice, mellow balance of sweet malts, which makes for a very drinkable beer that's also out of the norm. The only similar beer I can think of is the Michigan Brewing Bavarian Dark for the same dark earthy tone.

tempest, Jan 13, 2008
Photo of dsa7783
2/5  rDev -46.9%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Really wasn't too impressed... Although a decent beer, for a company that claims to specialize in wheat beers, they could've done alot better with this one... This tastes, looks, and smells more like a stout than a wheat beer, and after spending $7.75 on a six-pack, I was kind of dissapointed by the overall lack of complexity and bland flavor that predominated this brew. I'm pissed I wasted almost eight bucks on a brew that I basically had to force down rather than enjoy... No real wheat flavor in here, but more traces of cocoa and bittersweet chocolate...

dsa7783, Nov 14, 2007
Photo of flexabull
3.95/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy brown color, with a faint head.

Smells biscuit like, also notice sweet grains, and roasted malts.

Taste is creamy and nutty. Nice roasted malt character, some underlying sweetness, and a bit of a tart toasty finish.

Mouthfeel is nice and full.

Drinkability is good. This is a nice easy drinking dunkel. Session worthy as well.

flexabull, Aug 12, 2007
Photo of Wasatch
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to NeroFiddled for this brew.

Pours a nice clean/clear dark brown color, nice carbonation, tiny fizzy head which does not last long, not sticky lacing at all. The nose is malty, yeasty, some bananna, clove, and caramel. The taste is malty, slighty yeasty, touch of bananna/clove, lots of caramel. Medium body. Drinkable, a nice brew for a hot day.

Wasatch, May 09, 2007
Photo of Phatz
4.05/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks gottajiboo2 for bringing and sharing this beer.

Appearance: Pours a copper brown color with crimson hues a white head and some lacing.

Smell: Sweet caramel malts just a hint of banana esters but not too much almost stretching to detect. Wheat and a hint of cocoa.

Taste: Smooth and malty as it enters the mouth. Slowly flavors of wheat and dark fruit drizzled with caramel touch the taste buds. There is a toasted grain attribute and very little cocoa and toffee to leave you with. It maybe low in the fireworks and glamour depot but it is high in the approachability and drinkability department.

Mouthfeel: Light in the mouth but a pleasantly smooth texture glides easily over the tongue and down the throat.

Drinkability: This is a really easy drinking beer in my book. It is one worthy of a case purchase. Especially good drinking when you want to drink a few.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!

Phatz, Mar 11, 2007
Photo of SilentSabre
3.2/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Overall, I felt this was pretty average for the style. Certainly a good drink, but nothing spectacular. Poured a moderately cloudy dark red colour with a 1/2 inch layer of sand coloured foam that faded away in about 25 seconds, leaving a ring of frost about its edges. Smell was very nice consisting of roasted wheat kernels and chewy caramel candy. Quite nice. Taste was average having the proper flavour profiles for the style, but finishing up with a surprising bitterness. It wasn't offensive at all. In fact, it was very mild. It's just that I wasn't expecting *any* bitterness from a brew of this sort. So far, I like Ramstein's Winter Wheat the best. This is, however, decent at least.

SilentSabre, Nov 23, 2006
Photo of DrJay
3.48/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Deep chestnut colour topped by a short, light brown head. Fizzy bubbles that dissipate quickly and leave a bit of lace behind. Malty aroma composed of toasty, lightly chocolate grains and a mild yeasty bite. Sweet, malty flavour that you get out of some better German beers. Mild breadiness with a light fruit character as well. It finishes with a dry cocoa flavour. Medium bodied with carbonation a little on the low side. Not bad, nothing spectacular though. I enjoyed it, but it didn't make a huge impression on me.

DrJay, Nov 11, 2006
Photo of plaid75
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a medium cloudy brown hue with a two finger foamy white head. There was good retention and lacing.

The smell featured a nice toasted grain and a good yeasty aroma.

The taste was nicely balanced with a solid toasted malt and a good spicy yeast.

The mouthfeel was a bit chewy, yet crisp.

Overall a nice American rendition of the dunkel weizen.

plaid75, Oct 24, 2006
Photo of jwc215
3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours dark brown with a decent-sized off-white head.

The smell is of mild, earthy grain and a hint of sweet malt. Not bad - not expected for style.

The taste is of an earthy, roasted wheat grain upfront. A sweet malt (mild chocolate?) comes through as support and balance. The flavors aren't bad, but on the weaker side, especially the yeast.

It thins just a tad. It's fairly crisp and smooth. The flavors could have held on a bit longer.

Not bad, but could use more yeast to give it more body. It also could use more depth and character and fit the style better. Worth trying anyway. They should also write ""dunkel" or "dark" on the label, for clarification, IMO.

jwc215, Sep 17, 2006
Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dusky reddish bronze with orange peel edges. The white toast brown head is impressively tight-bubbled and displays a great deal of longevity as a result. When it finally relents, a more than respectable amount of thick, smeary lace is seen on the glass. Classic is one of the darker dunkels that I've seen and is a fine looking beer.

The nose isn't as fine. It's toasted brown malty with a minor contribution from earthy hops. Is the style correct? I notice that style isn't mentioned on the label or on the High Point website; although 'dark wheat beer' becomes dunkel weizen when translated to German, so I guess I just answered my own question. Where are the banana esters and the clove spice? I don't have an answer for that one.

A little better on the palate, although not enough to earn a higher score. At least there's some degree of spiciness now, which could just as easily be coming from the Tettnanger hops as the wimpy yeast strain. Heavily toasted grain (wheat and barley presumably) comprises the vast majority of the flavor profile, with a little cocoa and bruised apple fruitiness thrown in for good measure.

I'm disappointed at the lack of depth, the lack of complexity. A superb yeast strain is vital in the brewing of a superb hefe or dunkel weizen and High Point's yeast just isn't up to the task. The finish is simply an extension of what came before with a little extra bitterness tacked on as an afterthought.

The body/mouthfeel is appropriately light, but misses the boat in terms of volume (also known as mouthfilllingness) due to a shortage of carbonation. Even though I'm not usually big on bubbles, some styles and some beers--like this one--need the perkiness that they provide.

I expected a little more than I got from this bottle of Ramstein Classic. Any brewery that specializes in weizens ought to nail a dunkel with their eyes closed. High Point needs to keep them both wide open though because they damn near missed the target entirely. This is still worthwhile beer, but the brewery's claim that it's 'the highest rated dark wheat beer in the world' borders on delusional.

BuckeyeNation, Sep 10, 2006
Photo of mjc410
3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

A vigourous pour into a Weizen glass produces a relatively short (for a wheat) head, very tan. The liquid is dark brown and translucent. Smelling brings forth only a light dark roast, and perhaps some vanilla. The taste, the best part, is very roasty, and almost like a stout. It has a slight wheat "twang" as I like to call it, but much less than expected. The mouthfeel is not as thick as I would like, too little for a dunkel. Still, it's enjoyable, but perhaps this beer has been miscategorized, because it's missing a lot of traditional dunkel weizen characteristics.

mjc410, Jul 31, 2006
Photo of soultrain
4.15/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured into a Mahr's Weisse glass.

A-Dark reddish amber beer that is totally clear. 2 1/2" beige head froth settles to 1/2" in a minute and remains for the duration of the beer. Good lacing all down the glass.
S-Caramel, caramel, and more caramel.
T-Whoa, this tastes way lighter than the way it smells and looks. Caramel dissolves into mild clovey hazelnut that dissolves into a finely carbonated ether. The chalk dry aftertaste only inspires more quaffing.
M-The carbonation in this beer is almost perfect, and lasts for the duration.
D-Wicked light, killer drinkability.

CRUX: NICE DUNKEL FROM NEW JERSEY. Ah, for once I got lucky on a blind purchase at the beer store. I'll get it again, for sure!

soultrain, Jul 05, 2006
Photo of jaluria
4.2/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

My 1st beer from HPW and what a beer it was. I bought a 6-pack of this from Oak Tree Buy Rite.

Poured a slightly hazy, medium-brown color with plenty of carbonation and frothy cream-colored head. A good amount of lacing was left behind in my weizen glass. Aromas of caramel, grains (bread-like), dried pairs, and candy. The taste was filled with fruit and grain flavors with an ever-present caramel note that seemed to dominate the finish. Smooth and just slightly creamy, this beer was very refreshing on a hot summer day, while watching a World Cup semi-final. Easy to sip and even easier to quaff, this was a rich and flavorful beer with loads of complexity and a great texture.

I can't wait to try other beers from the HPW beer company.

jaluria, Jul 05, 2006
Ramstein Classic from High Point Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 94 ratings.