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Ramstein Winter Wheat - High Point Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

292 Ratings
THE BROS
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world-class

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Ratings: 292
Reviews: 239
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 12.29%
Wants: 74
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
High Point Brewing Company visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: xlperro on 04-17-2002

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Photo of garymuchow
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Many thanks to pezoids for this sample.
Nice deep dark malt aroma with a strong fruit presence. A touch of alcohol. Little to no phenols.
Dark, dark, dark brown. Opaque. Pours with an insignificant head that leaves immediately, leaving only a miniscule ring.
Really nice deep rich malt, with heave dark fruit. Seems like a chocolate quality, but not like a stout with no roast, but a heavy deep richness that is chocolate like. Very nice. Again lighter on the phenols than other examples of style. Wheat does add to character with a slight spicy bite.
Very fine carbonation and very good smoothness. Rich and full, but not heavy. Even has a bit of a watery character, esp. as it warms.
This is good. Quite good, but I'm not sure it's quite at the level that some claim it to be. I really like the chocolate character, but I miss the phenols. It also didn't seem to increase in richness or quality as it warmed. Not dissappointing as a beer, but only in the expectations the high scores had lead me too.

Photo of Westsidethreat
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Sulldaddy for this opportunity.

A: Quite chocolaty looking, almost chalky like a liquid chocolate beer might be. Bit lighter and more amber than cola, very cloudy. Head came and went rapidly, just a bit of ring remains.

S: Subtle smokiness, tomato vine, dried prunes, minor vanilla and a touch of toffee.

T: Begins sort of like a butterscotch cola; sweet, slight sour twang but rounded with a touch of butter. Gentle smokey, red fruits, brown sugar and dark berries. Finishes with some nice toffee flavors and amber sweetness.

M: Medium mouthfeel, low carbonation. Bit hard.

D: Good beer. Really grows on you as it warms up.

Photo of BeerForMuscle
3.93/5  rDev -5.3%

Photo of womencantsail
3.92/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Bobby for sharing this one last week. Review transcribed from notes.

A: The pour is dark brown in color with some reddish highlights and a fluffy tan head.

S: The nose is fairly typical for a weizenbock. An interesting mix of bananas, cloves, sweet caramel, dark fruits and yeast.

T: The dark fruit and caramel translate quite intensely to the flavor. The beer is very sweet without as much in the way of the spicy, yeasty, and banana character that you expect from a Bavarian wheat beer.

M: The carbonation is moderate and gives the beer a fairly full and creamy feel on the tongue.

D: This was an interesting take on a weizenbock. I am more of a fan of the German examples (who isn't?) but that was certainly passable.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.92/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A solid Weizenbock that favors the more 'bock-like' character over the wheat. Very complex and flavorful.

The pour delivers a solid brown hue with a timid lace of a head. Lacking staying power, the foam seems to never completely diminish. Light legging on the beer shows its strength of alcohol and sweetness.

Very complex aromas cover the gammot from chocolates, nuts, and toast to esters of cherries, dates, raisons, and figs. Red wine alcohols give a slight vinous note as if aged in an oak barrel.

Flavors continue the complex and integrated character, leading the way with malty rich toffee/molassas, chocolate, toast-breads, and nutty flavors. The fruity esters give a mix of acidic cherries, grapes, and stone fruits. Again, the red wine notes make great impact going into the finish.

The well integrated carbonation leads to a weighted and creamy texture, though fleeting late. Malty and robust up front but the beer's sweetness gives way to a dry, alcoholic, and acidic note that boarders on mild astringencies.

Ramstein Winter Wheat is a fantastic Weizenbock that exhibits the deep chocolate and fruity aspects of the style and religates the wheat flavor and feel to supportive roles only.

Thanks Mikeyv35!

Photo of Wasatch
3.92/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks goes out to Hojaminbag for this brew.

Pours a nice dark brown color, some carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with minimal sticky lacing. The nose is malty, with some toffee notes, and caramel. The taste is slightly sweet malty, slightly bitter, with some toffee. Medium Body. Drinkable, this is a pretty tasty brew.

Photo of sponberg
3.91/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

a bottle from the SAME four pack as the 2002 review, aged in a 55 degree cellar for four years.

Deep brown with a tan head, doesn't last long. Not much aroma - maybe some toffee, not much else.

This beer ages spectacularly!!! Starts with a smoky, toffeish maltiness, no hops left except for a light bitterness. The same smoky/toffee/hints of wheat/ester flavor carries though the flavor, with a dried cherry note kicking in at the end. No burn whatsoever, and what oxidation there is is well covered by the primary beer flavors. Not as chewy as I'd expect, especially given the percent alcohol. Glad I have one more - the question is, when does it go into the fridge?

Unequivocally recommended for beer cellarers. One of those "what if...?" experiments that definitely panned out.

Photo of speter
3.91/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours a dark brown with virtually no head and no lacing (I can perhaps fault the bar for unclean glasswear, but I couldn't raise any real foam on this even with vigorous swirling).

S: Sweet chocolate, caramel, and banana. A banana split in a glass.

T: Follows the nose closely. The idea is great: take the banana and clove from a traditional German weizen, and add chocolatey notes. This does it well, and I'm glad I tried it.

M: Very rich, although the carbonation was severely lacking.

D: I had planned at one point to brew something like this at home, and I'm glad I had the chance to try this one on tap. In my opinion, this is simply too sweet for anything but an occasional sipper. I can't imagine trying to get through a whole homebrew batch of this.

Photo of warriorsoul
3.9/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Jetsbeer for this hand delivery...
Pours a thick black with a full finger of light brown head that sticks around for a little while...very little lacing.
Very inviting with first whiffs...roasted malt, fig and delicate spice.
Taste is pretty darn impressive...I believe this is my first weizenbock, so wasn't sure what to expect. That roasty character is very abundent in the flavor with a hint of smoke and a vineous quality with cherries, raisins and more spice than the nose would suggest.
The wheat is balanced nicely and really contributes to the mouthfeel...while this one is quite thick, the carbonation is high and distracts the drinkability for me personally. Really enjoy the flavor and the finish is quite clean, but I would not have more than a couple of these in an evening...just realized the abv is 9.5%...very well hidden and would sneak up real fast.
I would really like to try this on tap and will try to find some more of their offerings in the future.

Photo of WesWes
3.9/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

The beer pours a deep dark black color with a 1/4" offwhite head that quickly fades to spotty lacing. The aroma is good. It has a rich and intense wheat scent that smells of cloves. It also has a malty side that boasts of chocolate and crystal malts. It is fruity with wheat, but dry and roasted with black malts; very nice. The taste is good. It has a dry and roasted malt flavor that goes down smooth and warms a bit on the finish. It is rich with chocolate malts which give it a dark character. The fruity clove taste is evident, but little in comparison. The mouthfeel is decent. It is a full bodied beer with a little less than adequate carbonation. This is probably the best weizenbock I've ever had. It has a great malt bill along with aroma and taste. It needs a little more carbonation, but it drinks well just the same.

Photo of aracauna
3.89/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Mahogany black with a faded khaki head that’s airy and fleeting. Licorice in the aroma with a slight bubblegum ester note backing it up. There’s a lot of complexity in the flavor with chocolate, an interesting cross of tea and coffee, charcoal and more of those bubblegum esters.

Photo of Crosling
3.88/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Maple and toffee, with hints of coffee cream, burnt popcorn, clove-like yeast, chocolate, vanilla and fruit platter in the nose. Opaque brown color. initially sweet on the palate, like grape jelly. Burnt cocoa butter, black currant and plum follow, with light hints of chocolate wheat in the backround. Fluffy as hell. Gotta say I like this brewery and their concept.

Photo of flexabull
3.87/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of eclectic. Thanks again!

Pours a dark brown color, with a very thin head.

Aromas are toasty, bright, and slightly sweet.

Beer is sweet, creamy, with toasted malt flavors. There is a nice nutty taste, and a spicy hop finish.

Mouthfeel is nice, full and smooth.

Drinkability is good. This is a nice easy drinking weizenbock.

Photo of brdc
3.87/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks yobdoog for this one.

Small capped bottle, poured into an Aventinus glass.
It is a very dark brown brew, with a voluminous tan head that shows very little retention and some lacing.
Nice aroma with bubblegum, some malty sweetness and fruitiness.
Limited carbonation, somewhat thin on the palate, it is mostly sweet and fruity, but has a hint of acidity that was unexpected and a little out of place.
Nice, but nothing special.

Photo of brewandbbq
3.86/5  rDev -7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours opaque mahogany with crimson edging. Barely a trace of spritzy head rose up before instantly dissapearing. Zero lacework or retention.

Aromatics are full-on malty, with a trace of chocolate and a good whiff of alcohol. Quite clean and caramel-stuffed.

On the thick side of medium bodied, sticky and slick. Low carbonation adds some cloyness.

Rich malt, caramel, and chocolate lead off the pallet. Alcohol follows through with some substantial warmth. A slight tang from the wheat but otherwise a very clean lager.

Finishes with lingering caramel, chocolate and some faint wet paper.

This one is tasting a bit stale, or maybe it was never too spectacular to begin with?
The lack of carbonation and poor retention is not a good sign, regardless.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.85/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Quite possibly the darkest weizenbock I ever seen. Barely any head at all maybe some opaque colored head that fizzes to particularly nothing.

S - Quite mild banana, clove and and maybe some chocolate. A very solid light smell is good on such a high octane beer.

T - Some roast and molasses surprised me beneath some mild ripe fruits and mild spicy clove. Wheat seems mild yet balanced.

M - Kind of watery actually. Has mild flavors and seems not is intense as others describe. Medium heavy at best.

Overall I am not sure if this is a older bottle (like last years) but it's notched at October and has some sediment at the base. Even if its old it drinks rather well.

Photo of tempest
3.83/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at the Farmhouse in Emmaus.

I don't know, this seems a lot of their classic wheat beer to me without much difference. It looks a nice dark brown with tan head and lacing in my pint glass. The aroma and flavor have a strong, earthy character, which is cool, but not normal for the style. Beyond that I found undertones of orange and banana with bigger cocoa and roasted/toasted wheat and malt. This seems more like some hybrid of the weizenbock and an imperial porter. Unusual flavor aside, the element of this beer that really struck me was the sheer drinkability. It hid the alcohol perfectly and offered a medium body that could easily be mistaken for a much weaker beer.

Overall, not my favorite in terms of flavor for the style, but it's something different and very easy to drink.

Photo of birchstick
3.82/5  rDev -8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - dark brown, almost opaque with absolutely zero head. Looks more like a stout than a wheat beer.

S - very assertive smell - dark fruits and caramel malts with a zing of bubblegum and molasses. Smells sticky, if that makes any sense.

T - starts off with very dark fruits and sweet malts up front. However, I was very surprised that it leaves a lingering roastedness to it...this is a wheat beer!?

M - too thin and very little carbonation. However, the abv is extremely well masked.

D - this is the most interesting wheat beer I have tried. I was shocked a little bit by it, I guess I was expecting something a little different. If I could get this in Missouri, I could see myself purchasing it again.

Photo of Jredner
3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Perfumey alcohol, spices, malt and mild fruit notes in the aroma. Dark Brown to black with a creamy light tan head. Roasted malt, spices (nutmeg and/or clove) with a burnt and grainy flavor and feel. The alcohol is utterly unoticeable in the flavor though you can smell it. Departs a good bit from most Weizenbocks, but touches some of the bases and tastes decent enough.

Photo of Lupe
3.78/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours very dark with reddish hues when held to the light. Tight tan head quickly fades and leaves no lace.

Aroma of dark fruit and hint of clove and sourness. Alcohol lies in the backround, hidden but present.

Dark bread and fruit with lots of wheat and toasted malt flavor. Figs and raisins abound with some grape as well. Healthy does of clove with slight yeastiness, and a touch of sourness.

Smooth and crisp, medium in body. Good drinkability for the abv.

Had one last night and it was great. The one I had today was more sour, thinner, and just not as good. I am basing the review on the first bottle. Hopefully the second was just a bad bottle and the rest of the 6-pack is as good as the first.

Photo of wyllder
3.78/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

First off: Thanks to Dante for the chance to sample this beer.

The WW pours an opaque chocolate brown with a carbonated fizzing sound and a small, caramel head that dissipates quickly.

The nose is mild, comingling yeasty and smokey tones.

Taste is interesting, with the smokiness playing on both ends of the palate. The midsip is balanced by a pleasant malty sweetness that serves nicely to break up the otherwise smoky profile. Aftertaste is all about bitter smoke and leaves you yearning the next sip.

Mouthfeel suffers somewhat from having what I felt to be an almost oily character to it, coating the palate. It also had a strange numbing/tingling effect. I think this might have had something to do with the smoke, but I'm not too sure.

Drinkability is ok, though as my second Weizenbock, I'm discovering this is a style I love at the beginning of the bottle and not the end.

Overall, a good beer, and certainly one I wouldn't avoid the chance to sample in the future.

Wyll-

Photo of goatgoat
3.78/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thick dark pour, nearly opaque black. A thick fluffy coffee head, about 3 fingers, slowly diminishes to a slight cap. No lacing. Dark fruit aroma with lots of malt. A little heavy with alcohol but not overpowered. The flavor continues this with an opening dark sweetness with a hint of clove. Ends with more dark fruits and a bit of chocolate, reminiscent of my mother's cherry fudge. There's a slight crispness that is a bit overwhelmed by the body of the beer but then comes out in the aftertaste as a nice dryness. It works very well.
A good treat but I wouldn't grab more than one of these at a time.

Photo of klewis
3.78/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to beerbeing for this one.

A: Pours a deep brown with a soda-like head that quickly fizzes away to nothing. Zero lacing.

S: Aromas of port, prunes, and a subtle dose of alcohol.

T: Sweet and fruity taste up front with grapey flavors. This taste quickly fades to reveal an earthy espresso-like flavor and bitterness and a healthy dose of alcohol. Overall, the flavor is thinner than I would expect from a weizenbock.

M: Medium-light body with a sticky and syrupy texture. Fizzy carbonation seems a bit inappropriate for the style and detracts from the taste.

D: Not bad, but this one didn't really meet my expectations. More body, less fizziness, and a fatter flavor profile would make this a hell of a beer.

Photo of bierman2000
3.75/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Veyr different for a wheat beer.. no real head formed.. semed odd for a wheat beer.. smelled of currants and raisins and plums... very dark almost opaque black.. it was smooth yet fruity for a wheat beer and the body very thick. A very warming ale that was just different for this wheat beer geek.

Photo of stumac
3.75/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

pours up super dark brown color with a thin brown head. decent lacing. the nose is sweet malts, dark red fruits, wheaty wheat. the taste is the same as the nose, subtle sherry, raspberries, wheat, nice malts. low carbo, medium bodied. A pretty tasty burger indubitably...

Ramstein Winter Wheat from High Point Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 292 ratings.