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Ramstein Winter Wheat - High Point Brewing Company

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Ratings: 292
Reviews: 239
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 12.29%
Wants: 76
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
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High Point Brewing Company visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: xlperro on 04-17-2002

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Photo of grub
4.42/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

pre-holiday tasting at my place attended by me, DrJay, Viggo, biegaman, and northyorksammy. DrJay contributed two bottles of this one. thanks jay!

pours a deep brown with a thin brown head. the head drops slow and leaves spotty lace. a gentle swirl brings the head right back up.

aroma is nice. currants and other dark fruit. bit of yeast. bit of roast. nice maltyness.

taste is great. very smooth. rich bready malt. lightly roasty. lots of dark fruit. mild bitterness.

mouthfeel is good. nice body and a fairly dry finish. good carbonation level.

drinkability is great. this is a smooth, well balanced and very tasty beer. very good. definitely one of the highlights of the tasting.

Photo of bjohnson
4.55/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to goodbyeohio for this unexpected offering.

A: Pours a mix between dark brown and plum. Nice initial caramel colored one finger head. Dissipates quickly leaving a thin rim around the edge of the glass.
S: Plum and dark fruit sweetness emanates from the glass. Good background of malt.
T/M: Sweet at fruit mostly from the dark fruit. Nice wheat malty interlude with a twang of hops possibly? Slight sweet caramel notes also--a bit tarty. Exceptionally smooth and quite easy drinking for such a large beer. Good body. Wheatylike finish with notes of spices, cloves mostly
D: Glad I had the chance to try this fine brew. Although the abv is high it's not felt right away, although the warming of the chest has me rethinking my tune...

Photo of BillyB
4.32/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Waited online outside the brewery in pretty cold weather for this one. I'd heard good things and that it was only available at the brewery store for a short time. There were about 100 other people online and finally crowded into the small sampling room and spilled into the brewery at High Point.

Needles to say it was worth it. This is a phenomenal beer!

Appearance is a deep dark brown with slight ruby red highlights. Thin wispy beige head. A bit cloudy/murky with some sediment floating around.

Aromas of wheat, smoke, dried fruits like plums, raisins and figs. Also some cherry and chocolate notes.

Taste is smokey, toasty wheat. Plums, raisins, figs. Sweet dark roasty malts and brown sugar. Slight alcohol taste.

Medium bodied and very smooth. Slight alc. is noticeable.

Incredibly drinkable for the abv. One of the best beers brewed in NJ!

Photo of jwc215
4.5/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

best before end of Sept. (of next year I assume, as I purchased it at the brewery last month.

Pours dark brown with a medium tan head that becomes thin but everlasting.

Aromas of cocoa, caramel and banana/clove. Hardly any alcohol noticeable, despite high abv.

The taste is simply delicious. Cocoa and caramel. Banana/clove. Roasted wheat. Smooth with a crispness in the finish to balance out sweetness. Not overly complex, but delicious.

Smooth. Nice texture. Sweet, but not cloying.

Alchol is barely noticeeable (despite the abv level), so it creeps up on you. (Too) easily drinkable. A very good winter brew. This one is worth going a bit out of the way for.

Photo of yelterdow
4.1/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Growler fill from the always fantastic Andy's Corner in Bogota. This was available today to kick off the Winter Seasonal event here, and this beer has been delicious from the bottle for years. I've never sampled it on tap until today.

Served at just under cellar temperature in the brewery's own weizen glass.

Appearance- Wow... impressive! The beer pours an elegant rum raisin color with a cloudy, viscous character. The light mocha chocolate head rises to encompass the entire bell of this glass, the equivalent of four fingers. After finally settling, the yeasty mat is still thick and there are random sheets of lacing stuck to the glass. A damn nice looking weizenbock, an incredible display from a growler pour.

Smell- When I was small and collected bugs, there was one specific aroma that I never thought I'd encounter again. This beer, somehow, exhibits the smell of millipedes. I don't know how else to describe it... maybe damp leaves, the smell of decaying wood from and old tree lying on its side in the woods after a rain... it's extremely organic and live. Woodlice. You know... "basketball bugs". Those of you who know, understand.

Taste- The palate shows carob, caramel, and wheat primarily... with just a hint of chocolate. There is no trace of alcohol, just full out malt.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- Soft and appropriate for what it is... the slick, velvety texture is exactly right for this stronger wheat beer. As the tasting progresses, much of the carbonation subsides and it becomes less interesting. A delicious, rich and full flavored winter offering from Ramstein that creeps up on you... yet goes down so easily. I love this beer and always anticipate its annual release here in North Jersey. We've got it real good.

Photo of msubulldog25
4.39/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Tried this beer at a BA Gathering in Portland 23 Sept, 2006. Uncertain of the "best by:" date...a winter seasonal.

A: A subdued deep brown with a sliver of ivory head, not much retention. This is an unfiltered & bottle-fermented beer, so the pour is cloudy despite care taken.

S: Loads of wheat, it's harvest time! Wonderful smoky, earthen quality, too with a hints of cherry and chocolate. There's also a pervasive semi-sweet/dry smell that I likened best to Japanese soba noodles, mild soy and toasted sesame seeds. Yum.

T: Full of toasted wheat, wisps of smoke, dry fruit with a suggestion of sourness. Malts and some brown sugar give a nicely balanced sweetness. Despite the high abv, I never detected much of the alcohol; it's well-hidden amidst the rich flavors.

M: Mellow smoothness in a medium bodied brew. Low carbonation.

D: Very tasty and satisfying. An excellent example of weizenbock, one I'd recommend and will seek out again.

Photo of Zorro
4.3/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Sampled due to BIGsBIF and the kindness of BeerBeing.

Pours a dark as stout brown colored beer with some haze. Understated tan head formation.

Smell is quite full of dark roasted malt for the style. Lots of coffee and chocolate aromas that are far more pronounced than I expected. Lots of cake malt scent and black pepper. Banana and clove aromas are missing here.

Taste is smooth and chocolate milkshake. Mildly sweet with a good chocolate and coffee flavor this is outstandingly smooth for a beer. Alcohol? What Alcohol? Thing is I was expecting a lot more flavor for a Weizenbock.

Mouthfeel is pretty much chocolate milkshake REALLY thick.

Outstanding drinkability score. So freaking smooth you could give it to babies. My only complaint here is the total absence of typical German wheat beer flavors. This is more Imperial Wheat Sweet Stout to my taste buds, but it IS quite good.

Photo of Westsidethreat
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Sulldaddy for this opportunity.

A: Quite chocolaty looking, almost chalky like a liquid chocolate beer might be. Bit lighter and more amber than cola, very cloudy. Head came and went rapidly, just a bit of ring remains.

S: Subtle smokiness, tomato vine, dried prunes, minor vanilla and a touch of toffee.

T: Begins sort of like a butterscotch cola; sweet, slight sour twang but rounded with a touch of butter. Gentle smokey, red fruits, brown sugar and dark berries. Finishes with some nice toffee flavors and amber sweetness.

M: Medium mouthfeel, low carbonation. Bit hard.

D: Good beer. Really grows on you as it warms up.

Photo of sponberg
3.91/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

a bottle from the SAME four pack as the 2002 review, aged in a 55 degree cellar for four years.

Deep brown with a tan head, doesn't last long. Not much aroma - maybe some toffee, not much else.

This beer ages spectacularly!!! Starts with a smoky, toffeish maltiness, no hops left except for a light bitterness. The same smoky/toffee/hints of wheat/ester flavor carries though the flavor, with a dried cherry note kicking in at the end. No burn whatsoever, and what oxidation there is is well covered by the primary beer flavors. Not as chewy as I'd expect, especially given the percent alcohol. Glad I have one more - the question is, when does it go into the fridge?

Unequivocally recommended for beer cellarers. One of those "what if...?" experiments that definitely panned out.

Photo of Toddv29424
3.63/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer pours a dark, dark brown color with a minimal head. The smell is really malty, with a pruney note as well. Taste is good as well, but I feel like it lacks a substantial body. There is a good amount of terrific outer tastes, but as far as a cohesive body there is none. The outer notes include chicory, dark malts, and molasses. Overall a good beer, but nothing that I would go out of my way to find.

Photo of cbl2
4.29/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1/30/2005 $1.25 12 oz. 9.50% Best by May, though no year is indicated.


Pours an opaque dark brown that barely lets any light through when held up to one. Carbonation appears appropriate, but little to no head develops.


Smells like a bread factory that specializes in caramel apple bagels. This is going to be one rich, dark and intriguing beer.


Silky and smooth on the tongue, with flavors of ripe plum and chocolate prevailing. Alcohol is present in the finish, though surprisingly well masked (doesn't drink like a 9.5%). Superbly crafted, and supremely drinkable. This is a beer to have in your fridge at all times, though alas it is only available in the winter.

Photo of SilentSabre
4.12/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I must say, I enjoyed this a bit more than my good friend Ding seems to have. Until I received this in a trade as a "mystery gift" a week or so ago, I had never even heard of it. It is, however, positively delicious.
It poured very dark brown, nearly black, just like a Coke. An aggressive pour yielded about a two finger sand coloured head that faded away in about 40 seconds to a spotty film.
Smell was sweet malts, a bit of brown sugar, bread dough, a bit of spice, and perhaps a touch of stewed fruit.
Taste was similar, with sweet malts and alcohol dominating. A bit of brown sugar and yeast in the middle, with a bit more pronounced alcohol on the finish. Throughout this beer, however, the alcohol is never offensive, simply detectable at varying manageable levels. Mouthfeel was nice and smooth with a delicate amount of carbonation.
Overall, I was quite impressed with this. Perhaps I'll seek it out in the future.

Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.97/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer poured into the glass blackish brown with a tan to almost brown low head which was persistent but in the end failed to lace the glass.

The aroma was nutty with a toasty presence and tons of dark fruits, raisins most notable, coupled with a strong wheat presence. The aroma also had a definite wheat presence, some chocolate and a dark caramel.

The flavor was malty with chocolate most notable, some low banana fruit character and plenty of dark fruits. The dark fruits were raisins. The beer was toasty and biscuity with a strong dark caramel and a nice wheat to boot.

The finish was dry, but barely so, with wheat, chocolate, dark caramel and dark fruits lasting melded into the aftertaste and beyond. The body was just above medium with a good mouthfeel as a result of the wheat. The carbonation was not high and no alcohol presented itself. A really nice beer, but so much chocolate that it almost would present itself as a porter instead of a weizenbock. Enjoy before Jul, just made it!

12 ounce bottle. Thanks BeerBeing!

Photo of Vancer
4.35/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Whoa! Grabbed this <winter wheat> to enjoy before ball game, figured it would be an easy drinker. But, the pour told me otherwise: a coal black brew with a weak tan head, lacing on the glass. Where’s the abv on this puppy? I know it has to be up there.

Malty, almost porter-like aroma, thick and chewy during the quaffing. The malts, raisons, currant dance around quite nicely. A very sharp bite on the tongue. Still, a very nice surprise – and very enjoyable. A couple 2 or 3 of these would work well in the fall/winter.

Thanks to beerbeing!

Photo of Crosling
3.88/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Maple and toffee, with hints of coffee cream, burnt popcorn, clove-like yeast, chocolate, vanilla and fruit platter in the nose. Opaque brown color. initially sweet on the palate, like grape jelly. Burnt cocoa butter, black currant and plum follow, with light hints of chocolate wheat in the backround. Fluffy as hell. Gotta say I like this brewery and their concept.

Photo of edskirk3
3.45/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I'm drinking Winter Wheat in the middle of May. According to the notch, I should enjoy it by August. 2006? Let's just assume.

Pours opaque black with a thin halo of ruby. Cola-like head, shade of mocha.

Scent of chocolate malts, thin notes of banana. Taste is similar, it's not unpleasant. Slight afterbite of weizen yeast. It's an unusual combination, for me at least.

It's a little bit filling, not something to drink in the middle of May. Unless you're in the Southern Hemisphere. It was a little chilly today, but apparently not enough.

Interesting brew, I'll give 'em that.

Photo of Jacobob10
3.98/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I picked this up from Ramsey Liquors in NJ a few weeks back and they said that Ramstein had sent them a case of their Blonde Wheat and it was accidentally filled with the Winter Wheats. So the six pack I purchased actually had a Blonde Wheat box filled with Winter Wheat botles. What a tragedy I stumbled upon!

This pours very dark brown. Opaque with a one-finger tan head that dissapates quickly into a thin head which remains for the entire life of the beer. The aroma consisted mostly of roasted malts with some clove mixed in there.

What an interesting flavor! It's got the roasted malt backbone but with a wheat yeast overtone that gives it a clovey, banana-like flavor. Interesting, but not incredible. The aftertaste left a weird yeasty flavor in my mouth. Still a very enjoyable and drinkable beer. Different mix of flavors and aromas that may take another beer or two for me to get used to.

Photo of Jredner
3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Perfumey alcohol, spices, malt and mild fruit notes in the aroma. Dark Brown to black with a creamy light tan head. Roasted malt, spices (nutmeg and/or clove) with a burnt and grainy flavor and feel. The alcohol is utterly unoticeable in the flavor though you can smell it. Departs a good bit from most Weizenbocks, but touches some of the bases and tastes decent enough.

Photo of GeoffFromSJ
4.42/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I am going to use Aventinus as a baseline. That isn't quite fair, since they are two distinct beers. But since Aventinus defines the style, I don't think it is too much of a stretch.

Much darker. Black. A lot more chocolate malt must have been used in this beer than in Aventinus. A lot of the tastes remind me of a porter. Chocolate malt roastiness is in there. Weizen esters are in there but they aren't as strong. Sort of a porter/stout with esters. Different and very tasty.

This hides the alcohol percentage well.

I was torn on how to rate the appearance. Nice big head into nice lacing. But the lacing isn't good enough to warrant a higher rating. No matter. This beer transcends raw scores.

Although this beer will get a lower rating, I like it better than Aventinus. Frankly, it is the subjective thing of having something porter-like with esters instead of the esters predominating.

For such a small brewery, this is such a good beer. Always in demand. And, if you like the style, well worth getting.

Photo of TastyTaste
4.54/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A very dark weizenbock, letting no light through, and having only a minimal head after the impressive pour. Smell is sweet and brown sugary, with banana. Smooth, sweet, like dessert. Taste is roasted and fairly strong, carmel, with alcohol well hidden, only providing a subtle tingle in the background. Mouthfeel is fairly smooth, not much carbonation, with a little sharp carbonation. A good weizenbock, rich and delicious, but falls short of my all-time favorite, Skyline Weizenbock.

Photo of Gavage
4.4/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a brownish burgandy color with some bronze highlights. A nice 1.5" tan head slowly falls to a thick surface foam. Some spotty lacing develops during the session.

Smell: roasted tones, grassy wheat, and cherries.

Taste: Nice thick maltiness with huge prune and cherry flavor, and add in some wheat, alcohol, and a hearty bitterness to round out a very flavorful brew. Overall dryness throughout.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body, and crisp and dry throughout.

Drinkability: Nicely drinkable, but alcohol creeps in a bit as it warms. Drinking a few of these slowly can be an easy task. This is a wonderful beer everyone should seek out.

Photo of joeskirkie
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The six pack holder is a Ramstein Hefe-Weizen six pack holder, but wherever it says "Classic Wheat Beer" theres a sticker placed over it that says "Winter Wheat Doppelbock"

I'm, needless to say, confused. But as for the beer itself, beautiful. Black as night. It's robust, strong, long-lasting tan head developed aggressively, watch out.

An aroma of cholcolate-covered cherries, it's so very very tempting.

Taste: roasted caramel, can they even do that? A very slight aftertaste thats hints of alcohol.

It's kinda dry and theres a good amount of carbonation. I'm left very satisfied. I know the stickers say Dopplebock but I think I can agree with the Weizenbock classification given here (yeah it's not a hard leap to make). I could so totally have another one of these, but I'd need to space them out. Oh but is it ever good.

Photo of Prufrock
3.2/5  rDev -22.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle into a pilsner.

pitch brown with half an inch of foamy light brown head that leaves little lacing.

sweet, bready aroma with a touch of smoke and some cloves. strong vanilla undertones and a touch of soy sauce.

medium carbonation and a smooth, medium body. touch of soy sauce in the flavor is slightly distracting, but otherwise nice; a touch of chocolate, breadiness, some dark fruits, and alcohol. soy flavors begin to dominate the others as it warms. very drinkable, but nothing so compelling that i'd want another.

Photo of ChuckD
4.35/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz brown bottle poured into a chalice. Fresh, firm lacing with staying power. Body is a lovely dark brown/black.

To the nose, the malts jump out at you. Along with the sweetness is the wheat top and other fruitiness that is difficult to peg. Lots of things going on here - the harbinger of taste galore.

In the mouth, the taste is incredible. Huge malitness and alcohol, but clean, smooth and juicy. Wonderful layers and layers of flavor -with the sweetness always holding on.

The body and feel are huge. Chewy and substantial - it is unbelievable that a beer this strong can have the full body taste with a cripy, dry finish.

Musings: This is one of the most memorable beers you will ever drink. As you finish the first one, you find it hard to believe the strength. An amazing beer.

4.35/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - 1 1/2" tan head (hangs around for awhile) on top of a dark brown to black beer. Really an outstanding color for a dark wheat beer. Some lace.

S - Chocolate. Clove. Some other things present that I can't pin down. Full, rich aroma overall.

T - Yeast. Tart. Earthy, roasted flavor. Coffee. Sweet. Clove. Touch of banana. Excellent, great balance and blend of flavors. All kinds of tastes going on here.

M - Rich, full mouthfeel. Slick. Low to medium carbonation.

D - Amazing beer. Drinkability is awesome. One of the best dunkelweizens I have had. Thanks xcjetta!

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Ramstein Winter Wheat from High Point Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 292 ratings.