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Ramstein Winter Wheat - High Point Brewing Company

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Ramstein Winter WheatRamstein Winter Wheat

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

284 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 284
Reviews: 239
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 12.26%
Wants: 64
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
High Point Brewing Company visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: xlperro on 04-17-2002)
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Photo of sponberg
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%

a bottle from the SAME four pack as the 2002 review, aged in a 55 degree cellar for four years.

Deep brown with a tan head, doesn't last long. Not much aroma - maybe some toffee, not much else.

This beer ages spectacularly!!! Starts with a smoky, toffeish maltiness, no hops left except for a light bitterness. The same smoky/toffee/hints of wheat/ester flavor carries though the flavor, with a dried cherry note kicking in at the end. No burn whatsoever, and what oxidation there is is well covered by the primary beer flavors. Not as chewy as I'd expect, especially given the percent alcohol. Glad I have one more - the question is, when does it go into the fridge?

Unequivocally recommended for beer cellarers. One of those "what if...?" experiments that definitely panned out.

sponberg, Sep 19, 2006
Photo of Toddv29424
3.63/5  rDev -12.7%

Beer pours a dark, dark brown color with a minimal head. The smell is really malty, with a pruney note as well. Taste is good as well, but I feel like it lacks a substantial body. There is a good amount of terrific outer tastes, but as far as a cohesive body there is none. The outer notes include chicory, dark malts, and molasses. Overall a good beer, but nothing that I would go out of my way to find.

Toddv29424, Sep 02, 2006
Photo of cbl2
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%

1/30/2005 $1.25 12 oz. 9.50% Best by May, though no year is indicated.

Appearance:

Pours an opaque dark brown that barely lets any light through when held up to one. Carbonation appears appropriate, but little to no head develops.

Aroma:

Smells like a bread factory that specializes in caramel apple bagels. This is going to be one rich, dark and intriguing beer.

Taste/Mouthfeel:

Silky and smooth on the tongue, with flavors of ripe plum and chocolate prevailing. Alcohol is present in the finish, though surprisingly well masked (doesn't drink like a 9.5%). Superbly crafted, and supremely drinkable. This is a beer to have in your fridge at all times, though alas it is only available in the winter.

cbl2, Aug 28, 2006
Photo of SilentSabre
4.1/5  rDev -1.4%

I must say, I enjoyed this a bit more than my good friend Ding seems to have. Until I received this in a trade as a "mystery gift" a week or so ago, I had never even heard of it. It is, however, positively delicious.
It poured very dark brown, nearly black, just like a Coke. An aggressive pour yielded about a two finger sand coloured head that faded away in about 40 seconds to a spotty film.
Smell was sweet malts, a bit of brown sugar, bread dough, a bit of spice, and perhaps a touch of stewed fruit.
Taste was similar, with sweet malts and alcohol dominating. A bit of brown sugar and yeast in the middle, with a bit more pronounced alcohol on the finish. Throughout this beer, however, the alcohol is never offensive, simply detectable at varying manageable levels. Mouthfeel was nice and smooth with a delicate amount of carbonation.
Overall, I was quite impressed with this. Perhaps I'll seek it out in the future.

SilentSabre, Aug 20, 2006
Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%

The beer poured into the glass blackish brown with a tan to almost brown low head which was persistent but in the end failed to lace the glass.

The aroma was nutty with a toasty presence and tons of dark fruits, raisins most notable, coupled with a strong wheat presence. The aroma also had a definite wheat presence, some chocolate and a dark caramel.

The flavor was malty with chocolate most notable, some low banana fruit character and plenty of dark fruits. The dark fruits were raisins. The beer was toasty and biscuity with a strong dark caramel and a nice wheat to boot.

The finish was dry, but barely so, with wheat, chocolate, dark caramel and dark fruits lasting melded into the aftertaste and beyond. The body was just above medium with a good mouthfeel as a result of the wheat. The carbonation was not high and no alcohol presented itself. A really nice beer, but so much chocolate that it almost would present itself as a porter instead of a weizenbock. Enjoy before Jul, just made it!

12 ounce bottle. Thanks BeerBeing!

GCBrewingCo, Jul 28, 2006
Photo of Vancer
4.38/5  rDev +5.3%

Whoa! Grabbed this <winter wheat> to enjoy before ball game, figured it would be an easy drinker. But, the pour told me otherwise: a coal black brew with a weak tan head, lacing on the glass. Where’s the abv on this puppy? I know it has to be up there.

Malty, almost porter-like aroma, thick and chewy during the quaffing. The malts, raisons, currant dance around quite nicely. A very sharp bite on the tongue. Still, a very nice surprise – and very enjoyable. A couple 2 or 3 of these would work well in the fall/winter.

Thanks to beerbeing!

Vancer, Jun 05, 2006
Photo of Crosling
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%

Maple and toffee, with hints of coffee cream, burnt popcorn, clove-like yeast, chocolate, vanilla and fruit platter in the nose. Opaque brown color. initially sweet on the palate, like grape jelly. Burnt cocoa butter, black currant and plum follow, with light hints of chocolate wheat in the backround. Fluffy as hell. Gotta say I like this brewery and their concept.

Crosling, May 28, 2006
Photo of edskirk3
3.45/5  rDev -17.1%

I'm drinking Winter Wheat in the middle of May. According to the notch, I should enjoy it by August. 2006? Let's just assume.

Pours opaque black with a thin halo of ruby. Cola-like head, shade of mocha.

Scent of chocolate malts, thin notes of banana. Taste is similar, it's not unpleasant. Slight afterbite of weizen yeast. It's an unusual combination, for me at least.

It's a little bit filling, not something to drink in the middle of May. Unless you're in the Southern Hemisphere. It was a little chilly today, but apparently not enough.

Interesting brew, I'll give 'em that.

edskirk3, May 16, 2006
Photo of Jacobob10
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%

I picked this up from Ramsey Liquors in NJ a few weeks back and they said that Ramstein had sent them a case of their Blonde Wheat and it was accidentally filled with the Winter Wheats. So the six pack I purchased actually had a Blonde Wheat box filled with Winter Wheat botles. What a tragedy I stumbled upon!

This pours very dark brown. Opaque with a one-finger tan head that dissapates quickly into a thin head which remains for the entire life of the beer. The aroma consisted mostly of roasted malts with some clove mixed in there.

What an interesting flavor! It's got the roasted malt backbone but with a wheat yeast overtone that gives it a clovey, banana-like flavor. Interesting, but not incredible. The aftertaste left a weird yeasty flavor in my mouth. Still a very enjoyable and drinkable beer. Different mix of flavors and aromas that may take another beer or two for me to get used to.

Jacobob10, May 02, 2006
Photo of Jredner
3.78/5  rDev -9.1%

Perfumey alcohol, spices, malt and mild fruit notes in the aroma. Dark Brown to black with a creamy light tan head. Roasted malt, spices (nutmeg and/or clove) with a burnt and grainy flavor and feel. The alcohol is utterly unoticeable in the flavor though you can smell it. Departs a good bit from most Weizenbocks, but touches some of the bases and tastes decent enough.

Jredner, Apr 10, 2006
Photo of GeoffFromSJ
4.43/5  rDev +6.5%

I am going to use Aventinus as a baseline. That isn't quite fair, since they are two distinct beers. But since Aventinus defines the style, I don't think it is too much of a stretch.

Much darker. Black. A lot more chocolate malt must have been used in this beer than in Aventinus. A lot of the tastes remind me of a porter. Chocolate malt roastiness is in there. Weizen esters are in there but they aren't as strong. Sort of a porter/stout with esters. Different and very tasty.

This hides the alcohol percentage well.

I was torn on how to rate the appearance. Nice big head into nice lacing. But the lacing isn't good enough to warrant a higher rating. No matter. This beer transcends raw scores.

Although this beer will get a lower rating, I like it better than Aventinus. Frankly, it is the subjective thing of having something porter-like with esters instead of the esters predominating.

For such a small brewery, this is such a good beer. Always in demand. And, if you like the style, well worth getting.

GeoffFromSJ, Mar 24, 2006
Photo of TastyTaste
4.53/5  rDev +8.9%

A very dark weizenbock, letting no light through, and having only a minimal head after the impressive pour. Smell is sweet and brown sugary, with banana. Smooth, sweet, like dessert. Taste is roasted and fairly strong, carmel, with alcohol well hidden, only providing a subtle tingle in the background. Mouthfeel is fairly smooth, not much carbonation, with a little sharp carbonation. A good weizenbock, rich and delicious, but falls short of my all-time favorite, Skyline Weizenbock.

TastyTaste, Mar 20, 2006
Photo of Gavage
4.4/5  rDev +5.8%

Appearance: pours a brownish burgandy color with some bronze highlights. A nice 1.5" tan head slowly falls to a thick surface foam. Some spotty lacing develops during the session.

Smell: roasted tones, grassy wheat, and cherries.

Taste: Nice thick maltiness with huge prune and cherry flavor, and add in some wheat, alcohol, and a hearty bitterness to round out a very flavorful brew. Overall dryness throughout.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body, and crisp and dry throughout.

Drinkability: Nicely drinkable, but alcohol creeps in a bit as it warms. Drinking a few of these slowly can be an easy task. This is a wonderful beer everyone should seek out.

Gavage, Mar 04, 2006
Photo of joeskirkie
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%

The six pack holder is a Ramstein Hefe-Weizen six pack holder, but wherever it says "Classic Wheat Beer" theres a sticker placed over it that says "Winter Wheat Doppelbock"

I'm, needless to say, confused. But as for the beer itself, beautiful. Black as night. It's robust, strong, long-lasting tan head developed aggressively, watch out.

An aroma of cholcolate-covered cherries, it's so very very tempting.

Taste: roasted caramel, can they even do that? A very slight aftertaste thats hints of alcohol.

It's kinda dry and theres a good amount of carbonation. I'm left very satisfied. I know the stickers say Dopplebock but I think I can agree with the Weizenbock classification given here (yeah it's not a hard leap to make). I could so totally have another one of these, but I'd need to space them out. Oh but is it ever good.

joeskirkie, Mar 04, 2006
Photo of Prufrock
3.18/5  rDev -23.6%

12 oz. bottle into a pilsner.

pitch brown with half an inch of foamy light brown head that leaves little lacing.

sweet, bready aroma with a touch of smoke and some cloves. strong vanilla undertones and a touch of soy sauce.

medium carbonation and a smooth, medium body. touch of soy sauce in the flavor is slightly distracting, but otherwise nice; a touch of chocolate, breadiness, some dark fruits, and alcohol. soy flavors begin to dominate the others as it warms. very drinkable, but nothing so compelling that i'd want another.

Prufrock, Feb 21, 2006
Photo of ChuckD
4.38/5  rDev +5.3%

12 oz brown bottle poured into a chalice. Fresh, firm lacing with staying power. Body is a lovely dark brown/black.

To the nose, the malts jump out at you. Along with the sweetness is the wheat top and other fruitiness that is difficult to peg. Lots of things going on here - the harbinger of taste galore.

In the mouth, the taste is incredible. Huge malitness and alcohol, but clean, smooth and juicy. Wonderful layers and layers of flavor -with the sweetness always holding on.

The body and feel are huge. Chewy and substantial - it is unbelievable that a beer this strong can have the full body taste with a cripy, dry finish.

Musings: This is one of the most memorable beers you will ever drink. As you finish the first one, you find it hard to believe the strength. An amazing beer.

ChuckD, Feb 19, 2006
Photo of MUSHROOMCLOUD
4.38/5  rDev +5.3%

A - 1 1/2" tan head (hangs around for awhile) on top of a dark brown to black beer. Really an outstanding color for a dark wheat beer. Some lace.

S - Chocolate. Clove. Some other things present that I can't pin down. Full, rich aroma overall.

T - Yeast. Tart. Earthy, roasted flavor. Coffee. Sweet. Clove. Touch of banana. Excellent, great balance and blend of flavors. All kinds of tastes going on here.

M - Rich, full mouthfeel. Slick. Low to medium carbonation.

D - Amazing beer. Drinkability is awesome. One of the best dunkelweizens I have had. Thanks xcjetta!

MUSHROOMCLOUD, Feb 13, 2006
Photo of warriorsoul
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%

Thanks to Jetsbeer for this hand delivery...
Pours a thick black with a full finger of light brown head that sticks around for a little while...very little lacing.
Very inviting with first whiffs...roasted malt, fig and delicate spice.
Taste is pretty darn impressive...I believe this is my first weizenbock, so wasn't sure what to expect. That roasty character is very abundent in the flavor with a hint of smoke and a vineous quality with cherries, raisins and more spice than the nose would suggest.
The wheat is balanced nicely and really contributes to the mouthfeel...while this one is quite thick, the carbonation is high and distracts the drinkability for me personally. Really enjoy the flavor and the finish is quite clean, but I would not have more than a couple of these in an evening...just realized the abv is 9.5%...very well hidden and would sneak up real fast.
I would really like to try this on tap and will try to find some more of their offerings in the future.

warriorsoul, Feb 05, 2006
Photo of weeare138
4.47/5  rDev +7.5%

Appears a black with a dark chestnut hue. A creamy 2 finger tan head floats on the top and slowly fades into a mild film and thick, creamy collar. Spotty lacing is left around the glass.
Smell is of vanilla, caramel, clove, chocolate, raisins, wheat, and perhaps a hint of coffee.
Taste is a creamy blend of the above aromas with a mild fruity clove finish.
Mouthfeel is creamy and smooth with a semi-dry finish that is of delicate yeast, spice, fruit, and chocolate.

weeare138, Dec 29, 2005
Photo of Gueuzedude
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

As I pours this dark brew a fresh aroma of banana bread wafts to my nose. The beer is topped by a frothy, one-finger thick, brown colored head that sits atop a dark, purplish-brown colored beer that might be more aptly described as black. The aroma is fresh, with a nice wheat tartness, definite notes of clove, and a sweet plum like fruitiness. As the beer warms it begins to pick up a soft note reminiscent of chocolate and a hint of roasted coffee beans.

The taste has a definite sweetness up front, but it is soft and reminds me of a just ripe plum. As this beer moves to the finish it picks up tart wheat notes and a nice hint of coffee and roast grain. The roasted note is what really lingers here, like a slightly astringent, burnt barley husk. There is some spicy clove notes here as well as a hint of banana like notes. This beer really has a nice fruit character to it; along with the sweet plum notes I also get notes of raisins, and notes reminiscent of fresh figs. I really like how this seems to be light on the palate, yet still has a mouthcoating richness to it. It is definitely not a light beer, but there is something about the creamy smoothness of this beer which gives it that sort of feel.

This beer is definitely quite nice, it strikes a good balance between rich flavors of fruit, spice and roast and still being quite quaffable. The only drawback here is a slight, burnt grain astringency in the finish, and this is fairly subtle.

Holy Sh!#, I just looked at the alcohol content. One thing I have got to say for this beer, I would never have guessed it was anywhere near 9% alcohol; it really hides it quite well.

Gueuzedude, Dec 29, 2005
Photo of JerzDevl2000
4.4/5  rDev +5.8%

Toured the brewery a week ago - they had a free tasting as well and I've wanted to see what was up there. Picked this up before heading home, seeing that it wasn't easy to find in retail outlets and it got good reviews on here. This is the first weizenbock that I've tasted, and I must admit that it was pretty intriguing!

Beer poured a very dark brown, with a hint of purple in it. Head filled right up to the top of my mug, and the lacing has been pretty impressive as well. Looks a bit like a stout, but it doesn't really taste like one. The chocolate presence isn't as strong as the caramel, toffee, malt, and wheat that blend together to make for a very soothing and addicting taste. The mouthfeel is wonderful - each sip foams right up and the aftertaste is warm, but only bitter enough to leave you wanting more. No making faces at the taste and there aren't any spices to mask the results of the unfiltering. The taste and mouthfeel are very natural, pleasing, and warming all at once!

I really felt warmed up drinking this, which isn't the case with most "winter warmers". I may not have hit this style on the head, since it's relatively new to me, but I'd recommend this brew to anyone looking to warm up on a cold winter's day or expand their beer-drinking horizions. One couldn't go wrong either way!

JerzDevl2000, Dec 18, 2005
Photo of ithacabaron
4.47/5  rDev +7.5%

Pours a sedate, deep brown, with a relatively thin body into my glass. A small yet solid head rises and falls down to a coating on top of the brew.

Aroma is oooh -- nice. Mushrooms, leather, braised pot roast, tobacco. Awesome smell.

As for taste...caramel, uncured leather, and just a hint of the banana to let you know what you're dealing with. Manages to be smoky, sweet, fruity, and to be all of these things at the same time, nothing overwhelming or dominating the conversation. And that's what this is, a conversation, an excellent arrangement of elements. Damn nice.

Mouthfeel is right where it should be, not too heavy, not too sharp. Nice crisp finish.

9.5%? Get out of town! No way. Drinks like a 6% dunkelweizen. Very nice.

What a great brew. I've really been grooving on the German styles recently, and this is just another reason to celebrate that brewing heritage. And from an American brewery, too! Beer is limitless in its possiblities, and we're living in the golden age. Huge thanks to blitheringidiot for this brew -- really got me back in the game -- a "wow" brew that I didn't see coming.

ithacabaron, Dec 14, 2005
Photo of BeerBuilder
4.58/5  rDev +10.1%

Pours to deep brown, pretty much black color with just a ring of light brown for a head. The aroma is awesome and unusual, I've never smelt any brew like this. I get the chocolate, and banana with a bit of clove. I detect a bit of roasty and smokiness as well. I get almost a peanut butter aroma too. Very nice.

The flavor is like a chocolate covered fried peanut and banana sandwich, with a bit of smokiness in the back. It is full in body, yet drinkable with an alcohol warmth at the end.

A big thank to cousin Stubob for sharing the one with me. Very nice.

BeerBuilder, Nov 19, 2005
Photo of kmpitz2
4.5/5  rDev +8.2%

From a 6 oz sample out of a 12 oz bottle. Pours a deep deep brown color with ruby hues. No real head is there, just a light ring. Very dark and mysterious look about it. Nose is chocolate covered alcohol soaked banana. Just aqpuff of alcohol is in there. Solid. The flavor is very mellow. Banana and cream are very prevalent with a more subdued background of fig and chocolate. No hint of alcohol. Very tasty. The feel is thick with just a hint of carbonation. Very satisfying feel. Overall, a highly drinkable beer. I'd like a touch more of an edge on the dark malt. I would drink this again.

kmpitz2, Oct 06, 2005
Photo of SheepNutz
4.65/5  rDev +11.8%

Kev is a champ! Breaking this out after Raspberry Eisbock??? INSANE! 12oz. bottle poured into a snifter. It pours a deep brown, almost black color with one finger of head that dies down quickly. There is no lacing. The smell is full of wheat malt, yeast, and spices. It has lots of cloves, and a nice roasty character. The taste is fantastic as well. It has a lot of roasted malt and bready flavors up front. There is just a little bit of the classic banana and clove in there as well. Very deep and complex, with just a hint of alcohol on the finish. The mouthfeel is incredibly strong, yet smooth. The drinkability is awesome for such a strong beer. Truely unique. My hat's off to Kev. He is king.

SheepNutz, Oct 06, 2005
Ramstein Winter Wheat from High Point Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 284 ratings.