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Ramstein Winter Wheat - High Point Brewing Company

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Ramstein Winter WheatRamstein Winter Wheat

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

282 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 282
Reviews: 239
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 12.26%
Wants: 63
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
High Point Brewing Company visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: xlperro on 04-17-2002)
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orbitalr0x

Illinois

4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The Ramstein Winter Wheat pours from the bottle a deep dark muddy brown milk chocolate color with a rising bubbly head that falls to a ring around the glass. Aromas begin with some rich dark chocolatey malts along with an upfront spiciness featuring bananas and cloves. Some bitter coffee lingers in the background with a nice overall roastiness. Dark fruits abound. Nice.

First sip brings an intensly rich caramelly chocolate maltiness. Deep dark and roasty with a stream of big clove flavors. Hints of banana and yeast flow through each sip as well. Finishes with some dark fruits, raisins and a touch of coffee and hops. A big malty, tasty brew here with mellow notes of wheat grain.

Mouthfeel is thick and chewy with a mega malt presence that fills the mouth. Mellow carbonation works well here. One of the few weizenbocks I've had...this is quite tasty and I wouldn't mind a few in a sitting. This is how I like my wheat beers! Thanks to dmeadows for the opportunity to sample this one.

Serving type: bottle

10-05-2005 02:06:20 | More by orbitalr0x
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tgbljb

Pennsylvania

2.75/5  rDev -33.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

poured a deep brown reddish color with moderate tannish creamy head. Smellmwas of dark fruits (plums, raisins) mixed with malt. Taste was strongly alcololic and very over-powering to the senses. Finish was malty but not a taste I liked. After all the high prasie for this beer, I was very dissapointed. Maybe I'll try another year's batch.

Serving type: bottle

08-13-2005 01:34:08 | More by tgbljb
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HardTarget

Texas

3.58/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle Inspection: Jul notched at the side, but no year. Why, WHY don’t they put a year?

Aroma: Condensed wheat, light notes of bitter coffee.

Appearance: Viscous with thick legs, the creamed coffee head lasted for about 2 seconds then dropped to a thin collar that didn’t lace. Glass was dark brown when tipped to see clarity, but opaque when standing.

Flavor: Sweet, with hints of corn sugar. Papery- I’m pretty sure we got last years’ bottle, but there’s no way to tell, is there? The flaw faded somewhat as it warmed, but never really left. It’s a Weizenbock with a lot of stout characteristics, some roasted grain, some light coffee. A weizenstout? Some grape and raisin notes late in the game.

Mouthfeel: Medium heavy body, viscous as promised, slightly syrupy which lingers in the mouth.

Overall Impression: Flawed beauty. Great beer, rich, flavorful, filling, but that papery edge really was bothersome. Brewery didn’t list the year, in my book that means they take the hit.

Another “thanks” to Pegasus for sharing the bottle

Serving type: bottle

06-26-2005 22:05:47 | More by HardTarget
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Pegasus

Texas

3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Deep mahogony in color, with no highlights, little head to speak of, a persistent white collar, and scattered patches of foam, small lacing.

Aroma: Coffe, dark caramel, bitter chocolate, dark fruit, and black bread. In all, the aroma is deep, rich, and very appealing.

Taste: Rich chocolate, coffee, and dark caramel througtout. The chocolate and coffee flavors are particularly appealing. Beneath those superb flavors, there is a distracting note of tart wheat, which seems to detract from the coffee and chocolate notes.

Mouth feel: Smooth and soft on the palette, fairly full, with zesty carbonation.

Drinkability/notes: Very pleasing, although the tart note beneath the surface in the taste seemed slightly oppressive as the tasting progressed. I am made to wonder if this sample had suffered in transport or storage. Still, its one I would like to try again. A word to the wise, the alcoholic content of this beer is very well disguised, it seemed only a little stronger than a typical beer.

Serving type: bottle

06-26-2005 14:29:23 | More by Pegasus
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nvsblman

Arizona

4.45/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark chocolate brown with very little head. The aroma is full of chocolate, molasses, and caramel. A little bit of coffee and fruitiness to go along with some clove spiciness too. Roasted malts are the first thing I taste. Also some currants, caramel, brown sugar, cloves, and just enough hops for a nice balance. A medium mouthfeel with light carbonation, I found myself drinking this one pretty quickly!

Serving type: bottle

06-03-2005 02:36:57 | More by nvsblman
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Foxman

New Jersey

4.75/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

It pours a deep lustrous brown, with flashes of ruby breaking through, but rather nondescript. A finger of light brown, tight head lifts and settles in a quick cycle. Flares of lacing loop down the glass.

The aroma carries lithe tendrils of black cherry, dried fruit in general, currants specifically, and is backed by a body of dark chocolate. A very slight sour fruit note lurks, and works with the rest to allow no more than a fleeting glimpse of the alcohol within.

On first sip, what seems sure to be a cascade of dense sweetness showers the palate, but in a fascinating twist, that sweetness is promptly mitigated by the flavors that bear it, giving evidence to a strong but silky procession of dark cherries, currants, dried fruit, butterscotch, vanilla, and yes, as the bottle suggests, apple. These bland as they progress, then give way slightly to allow a a drier, more bitter element again bringing to mind dark chocolate. As the close draws near a more sour cherry hint swings in along with a crisp grain presence of wheat. The merest allusion to alcohol is all that exists in the flavor, and the finish is a warming melange of earthy fruit sweetness and roasted grain bitterness. Tremendously smooth, balanced, and blended, it's a blessing to the taste buds.

Medium bodied, the pieces mesh together to slide in a velvety swirl across the palate, leaving the ever so slight tingle of dryness on the tongue as it fades. It caresses, pets, and lingers.

I've been worshipping this beer all winter, and just got the inkling that I was at last worthy to review it.
While its facade is nice enough, it's like a well-kept but unremarkable storefront that masks behind it a treasure trove of wonder and delight.
It's fetching, alluring, tempting, decadent, and a whole host of other splendid adjectives. The bright lights of the aroma draw you in, and the spectacle of the flavor keeps your palate's attention riveted to the last. And as the curtain drops, you feel as though you've been stroked into some ethereal bliss. Well, ok, maybe not quite something that transcendant, but damn, it is truly masterful. Now, the one caution is to take care, because that strident ABV is well-masked, to say the least, and it would seriously lay some hurt on you if you're reckless. Still, it could have twice the alcohol, and drinking another is something that no amount of good sense could batter down every time.
While not prone to the most poignant of superlatives, this one indeed left me inspired.

Serving type: bottle

05-27-2005 13:22:28 | More by Foxman
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ppoitras

Massachusetts

4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle from jcalbi as part of BIFXV. Thanks for the opportunity. 2003 bottling.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 1/4" tan head above the clear, barely translucent reddish dark brown brew. Head quickly fades to layer of bubbles, and exhibits average lacing. Aroma is dark, malty sweetness, coupled with heavy, vinous fruits, and a bit of an alcohol tinge. Taste is all the nose indicated, and more so. Creaminess just makes the mouthfeel a dream, and drinkability benefits from both complexity, which induces revisiting for me, and just the ease with which it goes down.

Serving type: bottle

04-11-2005 00:02:01 | More by ppoitras
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SaunaKing

Ontario (Canada)

4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

dark brown with decent fizzy head with a vigorous pour.
head retention is minimal.
head is a tan coffee colour
when held in sunlight you can see it is very cloudy & murky


aroma is of cloves & bannana with a hint of the malt in the background.
a traditional wheat beer aroma


most dominant taste is coffee, a little burnt malt and very mild hop presence.

mouthfeel is nice - kind of heavy, not really much carbontion of note. Like a syrup or oil.

Drinkability is good, even with the elevated abv.

A very good wheat beer in my opinion.

Serving type: bottle

04-03-2005 20:31:54 | More by SaunaKing
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Smooth and dark wine attractiveness.Chocolate, bourbon and alcohol in aroma.Upfront carbonation. Very nice and drinkable . Replaces wine, with spiciness in yeast and dry finish. Multi-malts with chocolate malt and carmel. Thanks Clarkvv for the sample. Medium-full mouthfeel. Had again 1.7 years later

Serving type: bottle

04-03-2005 20:06:10 | More by Sammy
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PopeJonPaul

Oregon

4.13/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown with amber highlights, pretty low carbonation (could have been the tap,) very malty and slightly sour, some hint of cloves and overripe figs, virtually no hint of alcohol, malt malt everywhere with a slightly nutty finish. If you pulled the needle out of Barry Bonds' ass and injected it into a fruity dunkelweiss and then mixed it 3:1 with a good barleywine you'd have this bad boy. This beer whispers sweet love in your ear before it punches you in the back of the head. Yeow.

Serving type: on-tap

03-23-2005 03:26:37 | More by PopeJonPaul
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meathookjones

Virginia

4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I believe this bottle is a little over a year old and thanks goes to slander for this. Pours out black with a small tan bubbly head that dies quickly but leaves some sheets of lace stuck to the glass. Aroma is strong with sweet ripe dark fruits, prunes and figs. There is a nice roastiness there as well as a syrupy molasses scent. Something barleywinesque is going on in the nose as well. Flavor is a bit tamer, sweet fruits over a slight wheat flavor. Some roastiness is in the background and it has a lingering fruitiness. Mouthfeel is about medium with a sticky sweetness that coats the mouth. Very drinkable stuff here. This went down easy and I would go for more if I could get it locally. Very tasty stuff that I would love to try fresh.

Serving type: bottle

03-21-2005 20:39:44 | More by meathookjones
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Higravity

Michigan

4.15/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A welcome sight as the end of winter approaches. A dark body cap breifly by a cream head that sinks back in. Quite a smell of malt and fruit with some roasted notes. Taste slightly berry on top of a wave of malts that are very well coplimentory. It could be quite a unique blend of malts that provides the almost blueberry type flavor. This is qutie enjoyale and with a soft dense body it makes for good drinking.

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2005 21:01:28 | More by Higravity
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WesWes

New York

3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

The beer pours a deep dark black color with a 1/4" offwhite head that quickly fades to spotty lacing. The aroma is good. It has a rich and intense wheat scent that smells of cloves. It also has a malty side that boasts of chocolate and crystal malts. It is fruity with wheat, but dry and roasted with black malts; very nice. The taste is good. It has a dry and roasted malt flavor that goes down smooth and warms a bit on the finish. It is rich with chocolate malts which give it a dark character. The fruity clove taste is evident, but little in comparison. The mouthfeel is decent. It is a full bodied beer with a little less than adequate carbonation. This is probably the best weizenbock I've ever had. It has a great malt bill along with aroma and taste. It needs a little more carbonation, but it drinks well just the same.

Serving type: bottle

03-16-2005 02:15:58 | More by WesWes
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bultrey

New York

3.45/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This is one I just can't get behind... I guess it's not my cup o' tea. Pours a very dark brown, like a nut brown, almost no head, and no lacing. The smell is earthy and roasty, with some clove, allspice, and mace mixed in.
The taste of this is just not my bag. It is sweet, with banana anc clove, but nowhere near as sweet as other weissbocks, which is a good thing. But it is balanced by a a very raw hop flavor, which I suspect comes from a German hoip varietal that I just don't care for. It also has a slight roastiness that, while not overpowering, tastes like cigarette ash to me.
Mouthfeel could be better, with more carbonation, and drinkability is low in my mind because of the taste. The alcohol seems well-hidden.
Clearly not a bad beer, as the ratings will attest, but maybe not for everyone. Give it a shot, though...

Serving type: bottle

03-12-2005 19:37:25 | More by bultrey
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BrewMan13

New York

4.88/5  rDev +17.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bought a 6-pack that look like it went through hell...wasnt even in the original box. 'Best by sept' notched on the label.
Pours very dark brown/nearly black with not much head. After having Aventinus and Moonglow previously, this poured much darker then them--a very nice surprise.
Hints of clove, anise, and (as it says to expect on the label) apple. I also pick up on something I find hard to identify...almost liek cinnamon/buttered toast. This is good for me, as usually barely smell anything :)
Taste is exceptional! All the praise here on BA couldnt prepare me for how amazing this beer turned out to be. Very complex to say the least. Interestingly nothing like the aroma. Malty sweet initially like a doppelbock (hints of caramel?), but nowhere near cloying. Very slightly tart in the middle, the only similarity to any other wheat beer I've previously had. Finishes with a slightly dry roasted chocolate taste. Alcohol totally hidden at all temperatures (yeah, I know thats cliche on this site, but this is the best example I've come across). Would never have guessed 9.5% had I not known.
Very smooth, with little carbonation. Easy to drink. This one is freakin superb. Easily the best wheat beer I've ever had, besting Aventinus to my palate. I cant recommend this one enough. Especially amazing considering that the bottles looked very abused.
One hint though: DO NOT drink this after any other beer. I made this the 2nd beer of the night one night and it lost a lot. That cinnamon/buttered toast I spoke of in the aroma came through a lot and it definitely made the beer seem worse then having it solo. Enjoy it as the only, or at least 1st beer of the night, and you'll be fine.

Serving type: bottle

03-02-2005 04:28:42 | More by BrewMan13
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walleye

Michigan

3.18/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

from the bottle, poured amber to brown, with a lght brown head, aroma, caramel, molasses, soy sauce, plums, dark chocolate colse to bitter sweet. flavor coffee where did that come from, smoke, wood, plums, do not taste the soy sauce. dry mouth feel. not to bad of a beer.

Serving type: bottle

02-24-2005 23:43:21 | More by walleye
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blitheringidiot

Pennsylvania

4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Label Lingo and bottle babble: Ramstein Winter Wheat body label with neck label explaining “Micro brewed with the finest wheat, barley, rare hops, mountain water, and a unique strand of brewer’s yeast. Rich malty bouquet with subtle black currants, clove and apple. Deep full flavor.” E 0,3 L. Enjoy before June notch.

Dark mahogany brown pour into a pilsner with frothy cover that settles to a thin wafer light brown head cap ring which is easily arisin to life with a healthy swirl. No noticeable carbonation bubbles.

Deep aromatic malty brown sugar sweet nearly barleywine-esque. Vanilla and oaken notes.

First Swigs: Brassy smoky malt profile. Somewhat red wine vinous. Full flavored for sure. Molasses honey and biscuit malts. Powdery dry Bisquick aftertaste and some Karo syrup.

Thick full bodied with soft carbonation. Becomes extremely buttery like liquid brown cake dough in the long run.

Last Swigs: Like a barleywine ale sans hops with molasses aftertaste. Totally hidden 9.5% ABV. Delicious winter brew. Never quite had anything like this before. A bit too complex and thick milkshake like for my personal Drinkability tastes. An excellent beer overall. Just could not have a second in a night. Not a session for me. Special thanks to fellow BA GeoffFromSJ for the bottle.
85/4.39

Serving type: bottle

02-23-2005 11:35:58 | More by blitheringidiot
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garymuchow

Minnesota

3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Many thanks to pezoids for this sample.
Nice deep dark malt aroma with a strong fruit presence. A touch of alcohol. Little to no phenols.
Dark, dark, dark brown. Opaque. Pours with an insignificant head that leaves immediately, leaving only a miniscule ring.
Really nice deep rich malt, with heave dark fruit. Seems like a chocolate quality, but not like a stout with no roast, but a heavy deep richness that is chocolate like. Very nice. Again lighter on the phenols than other examples of style. Wheat does add to character with a slight spicy bite.
Very fine carbonation and very good smoothness. Rich and full, but not heavy. Even has a bit of a watery character, esp. as it warms.
This is good. Quite good, but I'm not sure it's quite at the level that some claim it to be. I really like the chocolate character, but I miss the phenols. It also didn't seem to increase in richness or quality as it warmed. Not dissappointing as a beer, but only in the expectations the high scores had lead me too.

Serving type: bottle

02-19-2005 04:01:00 | More by garymuchow
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shippos

New York

3.55/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

poured thick out of the bottle with a dark dark brown body and almost no head at all, just some film for a second when swished and just leaves a light ring around the glass.
this years aroma is a bit odd, getting black malt with some freshly ground coffee there is that spicy clovy wheat beer undertone her but the coffee overpowers. smooth body with not much carbonation. wants to be chewy at times but is held back, has a dry lingering aftertaste just making you drink more. very drinkable but i have to go back to the last bottle of last years and see if it really did change. still pretty good.

Serving type: bottle

02-05-2005 02:41:33 | More by shippos
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apintofknowledge

New Jersey

4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured thick and dark, reminding me of both a stout and motor oil. The aroma brought forward several very different smells… banana, apple cider and toasted nuts, even a hint of alcohol. Now for the taste… thick and rich, with a multitude of flavors. Sweet caramel, bananas, bittersweet chocolate and toffee were all present. A toasted flavor, like hazelnuts or roasted coffee came through in the finish the more I drank. And the mouthfeel was very nice… full and rich, a little syrupy, with a high amount of carbonation… tiny refreshing bubbles.

Altogether, an extremely enjoyable brew. Not as rich and complex as a dark wheat beer like Aventinus, but because of that it’s much more drinkable, easy to have several over the course of an evening. My only complaint is that it’s a seasonal brew, because I could drink this all year long.

Serving type: bottle

02-03-2005 03:21:51 | More by apintofknowledge
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mentor

Colorado

4.45/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to RonfromJersey for this dandy beer, January 2005. Pours a two-finger tan head over a pitch black liquid...even when held to the light. The last bit was swirled to add any sediment into the beer. I can smell sweetness and dark malt eminating from the glass as it just sits there on the table. Closer sniffing reveals potent chocolate and molasses plus some vanilla. Tastes great. Starts with molasses and grainy goodness. Some melon in the sweet start and then a gentle dap of roast grains come in followed by a nice bock character. The start has lotsa flavor plus a rounded floral hop (sort of a Fuggles quality, but this is in the German style so I would be surprised). This beer is not dry, but not wet either. With the bock comes the gentle roast. Not coffee and not strong, but mixing really well with the overall sweet. With searching, I can find alcohol at a consistent level throughout. Wow, this beer is really well balanced. What a fine offering! Great carbonation, too. Fluffy bubbles form on my tongue, not sharp acid creating bubbles like so many other beers I've reviewed recently. No lacing, but there is still a ring of bubbles around the liquid with the last gulp. Thick body for this fantastic beer.

Serving type: bottle

01-27-2005 02:42:07 | More by mentor
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ism

New Jersey

4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very dark brown with a small tan head that quickly dissapates. Was poured into a snifter, a good glass to capture the wonderful aromas -- malt and deep brandy-like fruit. Exciting carbonation and a medium body, a complex mix of caramel malt and wheat, with nuts and fruit topped off with spice. Goes down smooth with a sweet dryness that lingers. Hides the ABV well and warms just right. Balanced complexity and satisfying.

Serving type: on-tap

01-14-2005 05:46:47 | More by ism
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shapudding

Pennsylvania

4.43/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

My first Ramstein, gifted from the oh-so-wonderful GeoffSJ, and given to me when we did our Phillycrawl for Horst!

Poured out darkest brown with just a bit of deep rootbeer showing at the edges. No real head, only at the pour did some show up, but then just clear stillnes. Nice deep, dark, thick scents of rich sherry and terriyaki, maltiness with dark fruits and spiceyness. Very cool. Amost thick, but more medium bodied I would say. Good feel in the carbination, it is just there, not too intense. Nice thick maltiness, red apples, chocolate, caramelly sweetness. The hops with the fruit and malty flavors are very well balanced. There is alot of flavor left in your mouth after each sip. Very nice to drink!
Thanks Geoff!!

Serving type: bottle

01-02-2005 00:18:34 | More by shapudding
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Citadel82

New Jersey

4.83/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Whooooahhhh! This is the real deal. Pours a rich Mahogany Brown in my Aventinus Weizenbock glass. Thin tan head raipdly withdraws leaving scattered lace. Smell is of rich moist cake and nuts...fresh bannana nut bread hot from the oven. The taste is malt sweetness drying in long slow finish... heaven. No alcohol in evidence. 9.5% you can't be serious. Butler, NJ who would of thought. My mind turns to road trip north. Growler and cooler in the van.

Serving type: bottle

10-23-2004 02:01:49 | More by Citadel82
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Suds

Pennsylvania

4.58/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep, black, solid color with a thin tan head. The head is lasting.
What an aroma! There’s so much packed in there….chocolate, vanilla, butter, walnuts, more chocolate, banana, blackberries, heavily creamed coffee….wow. I could smell this beer for hours. Outstanding! Thick and substantial mouthfeel. Slight alcohol warming. Low carbonation. Dizzying complexity. This is a hell of a beer. It proves just how great a wheat beer can be.

Serving type: bottle

10-16-2004 12:16:16 | More by Suds
Ramstein Winter Wheat from High Point Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 282 ratings.