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Ramstein Winter Wheat - High Point Brewing Company

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Ramstein Winter WheatRamstein Winter Wheat

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BA SCORE
93
outstanding

239 Reviews
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Reviews: 239
Hads: 293
rAvg: 4.17
pDev: 11.51%
Wants: 84
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
High Point Brewing Company visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: xlperro on 04-17-2002

Rich creamy head with bouquet of Wheat malt, black current, clove, and apple. Deep full flavors of caramel and chocolate malt balance with hops for a smooth warming character. Smooth malt leads to a subtle alcohol and dark caramel finish. The wonderful balance of this beer provides a complex profile hiding the 9.5% alcohol content. The perfect companion for a cold winter night.
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Photo of wsouloa
4.4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I just had Ramstein Winter Wheat yesterday at David Copperfield's in the city. It was a special event with the High Point Wheat Beer Company. They had the Winter Wheat on tap from a cask. Although Winter Wheat is normally a good beer, it was significantly better out of the cask. The smell and taste were magnified. If you ever get the chance to experience this, don't pass it up. (380 characters)

Photo of HappyHourHero
4.05/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Big bubbled, froathy, dirty brown colored head that faded to a thin rim of head. The beer is dark cola black in color. Cloves, banana, and mellow dark fruit make up the aroma. The flavor is a mix of roasted malt and chocolatey wheat beer. It has moderate body and a fairly clean taste that fades in the aftertaste. Incredibly smooth and drinkable for such a strong beer. (370 characters)

Photo of UnionMade
4.72/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

From a one year old bottle stored at a constant 40.F.
The beer pours an incredibly dark umber brown, pretty much black, crowned with a thick froth of taupe head. Completely opaque, even without dredging up the bottle conditioning. The head recedes to a thin film upon sitting for five minutes, dying out completely on the last few sips.
The aroma is very intensely malty. Huge roasty chocolatey mocha, with rather subdued clove phenols. Considerable fig, currant and black cherry fruitiness, with just a trace of banana. The esters are a bit more subdued than I was expecting, but it's still very pleasing. The alcohol is just barely perceptable, with a faint waft of a thinner-like feel in your nose. More subtle than I was expecting, but still very nice. ---edit-- After reaching room temperature, the esters really come together. A very pleasant thinner-like feel through your nose, with tons of fruitiness and an increased clove presence. Excellent.
The flavor starts with an amazingly smooth chocolate maltiness. Considerable malt, feeling thick and chewy on your tongue. Lots of wheat, along with everything else. Yeast is apparent, adding a somewhat lactic overall feel, with a touch of woody biscuitiness. Some coffee comes through towards the middle, creating an exceptional mocha flavor, with very mild clove and soft fruity esters. Fig, date and currant dominate, with a bit of cherry and banana. The clove comes through a bit more in the finish, particularly as it warms. No hop flavor whatsoever. A molasses flavor edges in as it warms, adding to the thick mouthfeel. Some alcohol is apparent in the finish, blending with the mocha and a woodsy, nutty yeast flavor. Some yeast lingers in the finish with a touch of molasses and date. Amazingly smooth, sluggish carbonation, monstrous body, and very smooth, mellow mouthfeel.
Very powerful. This is a contender for thickest body ever. You feel like you need a spoon to drink it. Sweet, but not even close to cloying, this is one hell of a winter warmer. I think I may enjoy it more when young, perhaps some of the phenolic flavor would add just a bit more depth. I really enjoy the woody yeast and mocha blend. It has a very old school feel, probably because of the woody, nutty flavor. Very nice. --edit-- The fruity flavors are drawn out considerably with warmth, as well as the clove. I'd recommend warming this to well past celler temperature in order to get a fuller experience. It's too bad I was more than halfway through when it reached this point. Fantastic. (2,533 characters)

Photo of Shiredave
4.68/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours a clear but dark , chocolate brown with flashes of garnet. Gooey tan head slumps in the middle and clings all the way down.
Aroma is candied sugar and yeasty bananna, clean and pungent- very inviting.
Flavor is an oustanding blend of fruity sweetness and tart wheat. Notes of toffee and chocolate with ripe plums and a noticable cameo from subtle hop flavor.
Mouthfeel is medium and deceptive cold, but lush and full as it warms.
Lingering fruit and coffee aftertaste. Dangerously drinkable and exceptionally well made. Very cellerable in bottles for 2-4 years. (576 characters)

Photo of tavernjef
4.25/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A really interesting off blackish color with some purpley hints around the edges, nice dark tan head about a pinky high of thick, lush foam, sits a bit before diminshing to a thick collar, no real lace sticking, a few miniscule spots.

Aroma is muted sweet malts with a nice deepness of raisin, some dark cherry, vanilla, and softly rounded alcohol warmth;also, a bit funky with some smokeyness. A nice nose as it warms.

Taste is favorably malty sweet with a little touch of tartness from some dark cherry aspects, which mixes with some raisin and sweetish wheat tones that surface after midway and lingers into the finish with a bit more fullness then at the start. Notes of vanilla and molasses in there.

Feel starts slow but builds from there quite nicely gaining some and ending full and sweet with a floating easy finish. Smooth and lightly creamy overall. A nice drinkable Weisenbock.

A super big thanks goes to Fishbone for sending out some extra for me to have for after the Holidays!! What a karma-rific guy! Thanks! (1,040 characters)

Photo of CRJMellor
4.2/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a super dark brown, with a medium sized head that dissipates quickly. Leaves little lace on the glass. Aromas of apple, banana, dark malts and pumpernickel bread come to me. Very interesting taste with both sweet and minor sour highlights. Front has sweet, maybe chocolate malt, yeasty, bready falvors and the back has a sort of semi-sour finish, sort of a sour apple hint. For some reason the balance on this beer is tremendous and the beer is incredibly drinkable. I need to get to this brewery next time I'm home. I can favorably compare this to Aventinus, not quite as yeasty or quite as tasty overall but pretty good all around effort. (646 characters)

Photo of RoyalT
4.4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Appearance – Deep brown in color with a burgundy hue and a modest head. This is very dark for a Weizenbock. It is cloudy and murky.

Smell – The fruits here are very deep and ripe. I want to say mashed raisins soaked in alcohol and a touch of vanilla mostly. I can also pick out black cherries, red grapes, and lots of cranberry. The sweet malt base is muted but present.

Taste – Wow, this is a big ‘un. I’ve never had a Weizenbock with such an emphasis on the fruity nature of its profile. All the smells from the aroma find their way into the taste along with a little bit bigger malt and some sherry undertones. There are also some chocolaty notes in here as well.

Mouthfeel – Well past medium-bodied with little carbonation. The alcohol is much quieter in the mouth, giving this one a very pleasing mouthfeel.

Drinkability – I tried to savor it, but the bottle was just too good. I did well enough though to enjoy the changing flavors are it warmed.

Comments – I don’t see this as a classic interpretation of the style, but The Bros say to rate with personal preference and I loved this one. I got this gem from jcalbi as part of this year’s Christmas Exchange coordinated by xlperro. A big BA THANX to you guys.

Zum wohl!

Update - I haven't reviewed this beer for a couple of years but got a chance to indulge over at Skyhand's Five Star Motel.

It is really really dark in flavor, more so than most Dunkel Weizens. The flavor is terrific and it's one of the better American-made sample of the style. (1,538 characters)

Photo of Boilermaker88
4.94/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Received this beer from Davo as part of a side-bar holiday beer exchange during the Strong Ale Festival at the Carlsbad Pizza Port at the beginning of December. I opted to save this beer for Christmas Eve after putting my son to bed.
Poured from its 12oz. bottle, it had a near-black hue with deep ruby-tinged highlights and a thin bubbly tan head that left no lace. The nose was a rich array of aromas: clove, banana, dark fruits, bready malt, licorice, a touch of apple, and hint of chocolate all vying for attention. The taste was quite unique as it seemed a blend of styles came together. A hearty wheat malt backbone supported the flavors of banana and clove, some vanilla and dark, sweet chocolate, dark fruits - blackberries or black currants, and a slight smokiness. It finished with a nice hops flavor and those dark fruits that were in abundance throughout. The alcohol was very well hidden; only a warming sensation in the throat and chest gave a clue as to his beer's potency. The feel was full, smooth and warming.
This is one amazing brew! I couldn't put it down, even knowing it was going to put me on my arse if I didn't slow down. It was hard to imagine this beer having a %ABV of 9.5%. Big thanks to Davo for bringing a real treat out to SoCal. (1,264 characters)

Photo of IrishRedRock
4.2/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

We should be seeing this in the "Best of BA" real soon I should think. It seems to be getting more well-known, and it really lives up to its high rating. Very deep brown color, but its so thick that nothing comes through it...light thin tan head. Interesting aroma and flavors...some that you usually don't find together, like a grassy wheat aroma mixed with a dark chocolate flavor. Light touch of vanilla extract and alcohol in the nose. As for that alcohol, I would never expect 9.5% from the taste or smell, but you'll feel it once you near the bottom of your glass. Cloves, chocolate, and spices all abound in this wonderful creation. Mouthfeel is silky smooth. Thanks to ElGuapo for hookin' me up with this long awaited brew. (731 characters)

Photo of francisweizen
4.92/5  rDev +18%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

VENOM (Loren) was right, you need to do anything you can to get this stuff! A dark brown, nearly black, nearly opaque looking brew with an excellent head of tan foam, that unfortunately dies early and leaves little in the lacing department. The aromas are all there and all all classic: Cloves, vanilla, banana, other fruits and spices, with a distinctly flavorful wheaty-yeastiness to it as well. The taste is an almost euphoric blend of wheat flavors, coupled with chocolate (dark german chocolate?) cherries, berries, spices, and more! The mouthfeel is super creamy and excellent, but not perfect. The drinkability, however, is perfect, and the fact that this brew is nearly 10%ABV just absolutely blows my mind. Thanks for the tip Loren. Wonderful stuff here. The new Aventinus on the block. (795 characters)

Photo of jeffboo
4.15/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2002 Vintage Reddish black in color with small light brown head. Very malty aroma with alcohol,cloves and smoke. A full bodied brew with a very nice creamy texture holding bitter chocolate with caramel flavors finishing long with flavors of nuts,smoke and sweet malt and spicy yeast. A very drinkable beer for its size and strength, a very good night cap brew. I'm thinking it may go perfect with pumpkin pie. (409 characters)

Photo of Rumrunner
4.32/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle. To the BA's at the beer swap during the Strong Ale Festival. Thank you for the bottle.

This beer just has a very nice appearance. Something calm and quite about its appearance. It is dark brown with a foamy beige head. It dissipates and leaves little lace. The middle forms a small circle of small bubbles of carbonation popping to the top. The scents are heavy dark malts. Wheat smells singed and slightly smokey. Good clove and dark fruits add to the bouquet. Excellent scents.

Flavors mirror the scents but add a few. This one starts with very nice dark malts. Wheaty malts with a singed smokeness appear. A mild clove and deep dark ripe fruits. A dark toasty bread and something that gives a sweet taste of nutmeg. Alcohol presents itself in the middle but only to warm the palate and it is then swept away by the menagerie of flavors. A nice finish with hops and dark fruits.

It feels crisp and carbonationated. Medium bodied this beer is easy to drink. I prefer to sip it. I wish I had more than just the one. Oh well. This is one enjoyable beer. Happy holidays. (1,091 characters)

Photo of Gusler
4.36/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On the pour a deep brown to black with some ruby high lights and the head modest in size, creamy in texture and the color a dark tan with the lace a thick and glutinous sheet to seal off the glass for view. Ah that smell, sweet wheat, cloves, and a hint of licorice, also some toasted tones noticed, quite a sniffer this one, start is sweet and thick, the top middling in feel. Finish is benignly acidic and the hops mild and pleasant in their spiciness with the aftertaste bone dry and a fine beer I’ve wanted to try. (519 characters)

Photo of Jason
4.67/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz brown bottle with a freshness date on the label. Bottle conditioned and at 9.5% abv … there is no worry of freshness. A big thanks to Davo for the sample.

Appearance: Attractively dark with a beautiful lacing up the glass. The head is a bit thin but the retention lasts for the length of the beer.

Smell: Big aromas of dark fruit and faded clove. Malty sweet with a solid wheat malt twang in the back.

Taste & Mouthfeel: Succulently smooth with a rolling yet light crispness that struggles to get through the full body. Slight warming alcohol middle to end, hints of clove underneath the mountain of malt. Hints of dark bread and ripe fruit come to mind, lots of wheat malt flavour with a toasted malt thickness in the finish.

Notes: An amazing brew, I would have guessed 7.0% abv not 9.5%. Very deceiving. So luscious in the mouth and so drinkable for a big beer. A top-notch brew in my book not only for the style but for a winter seasonal. (961 characters)

Photo of TheLongBeachBum
4.47/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: 12 ounce brown bottle that came into my possession during the BA NYC Rally Sunday Brunch from fellow BA Davo, whilst sharing a couple of Teutonic beers at the Heidelberg Restaurant in New York. No freshness or strength listed, notched as Drink Before July – but no year, LOL.

Appearance: Very dark pour, a surprise, dark brown, almost black. ½” tan brown head that soon disappears and leaves a broken covering on the beers surface. Low levels of carbonation. Fizzes when replaced on the Table after a mouthful, quite weird – but impressive.

Nose: Dark alcohols, lots of fruity chewing gum candy smells mixed with some coffee and peppers. Mild figs and other dark fruits race into the back end of the beer. A very intense nose indeed, and quite complex.

Taste: A lovely smoky malt wheat beer entrance, fresh wheat, cloves, bananas, peppers and yet more figs. Smooth chocolate and bitter-sweet sultanas and raisins trapped in a malt biscuit center. This beer wraps the tongue in a fruity malt wheat beer that has an intensely complex pattern that seems to alter during every drink. Awesome!

Mouthfeel: Extremely wholesome, some banana cloying at the back end, but the fruity feel in the mouth is extremely inviting.

Drinkability: Is this really 9.5%?? No way - yeeez!! Doesn’t drink like it all. The wheat aspects lend a fantastic medium body that makes this very easy to dispatch.

Overall: I thoroughly enjoyed this one and I was saving it for the BA So.Cal. “get together” at the Pizza Port Strong Ale Festival in a few weeks time. However, Gentleman BA Davo mentioned he would bring more supplies for the others, so I cracked this open and selfishly consumed the entire bottle myself. The other BA’s are in for a treat!!

Cheers & Thanks Davo – see ya soon mate! (1,809 characters)

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.2/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Fully dark in color, not a bit of light escaping, with a fine, cocoa-tan head. So far, this looks like no wheat of any sort or stripe I've ever met.
Aroma: big, overpowering fruit, grapes, cherries, bright and lively, with a slightly smokey, woodsy edge.
Good texture, delicious taste, body on the medium side.
Truly a joy to drink, this one, with a marvelous, lovely flavor, nice, medium finish, smooth, supreme drinkability, if lacking in overall complexity.
Additionally, I had no suspicion of it's high ABV, 9.5%!, until entering these notes. Perhaps the strength lulled me into missing it's presence?
Another terrific New Jersey brew, compliments of BeerFan. (668 characters)

Photo of UncleJimbo
4.24/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sampled on tap at The Blind Tiger during "Christmas in July".

This weizenbock poured opaque black with almost no foam. The smell was a very nice, mellow banana and slightly sweet malt aroma (with perhaps a touch of wheat). The taste was sweet but also slightly tart. The dominant flavors were malt, banana, caramel, and a hint of hops in the finish. The mouthfeel was smooth and mellow and creamy and fruity. The body was medium with low carbonation. The finish was very light and clean. This was quite a nice beer that almost looked like a stout, but tasted like a wheat beer. The alcohol content was deceptive and was not discernable by taste. (648 characters)

Photo of jreitman
4.08/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A pleasant aroma of subtle dark roasted malt and caramel greeted me from the glass. Dark brown/black in color with a light brown head. Sweet caramel and hints of wheat came through and really surprised me. Mouthfeel was interesting in that it was quite chewy... don't know a better way to describe it. Very nice. (312 characters)

Photo of pbrian
4.8/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

You rarely get to sample a beer as finely crafted as this. Dark, opaque reddish brown, phat creamy tan head. Wafting combination of hefe (banana, clove), old ale (dark fruits, cherry, nuts), and porter (roasted grains) aromas. Tastes are the same combination with some caramelly malt sweetness appearing. Delivered via a medium bodied, yet velvety mouthfeel. 9.5% Alc.? Could've fooled me. Staggeringly drinkable. A big thanks to my beer friend who's always watching my back! (475 characters)

Photo of bierman2000
3.75/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Veyr different for a wheat beer.. no real head formed.. semed odd for a wheat beer.. smelled of currants and raisins and plums... very dark almost opaque black.. it was smooth yet fruity for a wheat beer and the body very thick. A very warming ale that was just different for this wheat beer geek. (297 characters)

Photo of jcalabre
4.52/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Originally sampled on 17 May 2003. Looks like a porter, but doesn't taste like one! it has a slightly fruity aroma w/ a flavor of tart cherries & brown bread. It is velvety on the tongue w/ a slightly sweet finish. This is a great brew. Thanks herbjones (253 characters)

Photo of TXHops
4.44/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

-Original Gravity: 1.090 (21.5 P)
-Final Gravity: 1.020 (3.5-4 P)
-ABV: 9.5%
-ABW: 7.4%
-Attenuation: 77%
-Real Extract: 7.8 P
-Calories/12 oz: 295
-IBU’s: 20
-Color: 30-35 EBC (69-72 SRM)
-pH:4.5-4.8

I just love a brewing operation that’s willing to give me their technical information. High Point really opens the kimono on their beers… Only 20 IBU’s with a starting gravity over 1.080!!?? Man…

The Winter Wheat pours Imperial Stout black, with a spritzy, fizzy head of the shortest-lived bubbles this side of cola. Actually, this beer looks quite a bit like flat coke that went strong on the syrup… A big caramelly, molasses nose with hints of either dates or dried plums in addition to cloves, chocolate and toasted malts is a welcoming start to the non-visual attributes of this beer. Is that a bit of smoke too? Yup, a sip confirms that there is indeed a hint of phenolic smokiness threading through the cinnamon, raisins, figs molasses, chocolate, cloves and bananas. Damn this stuff is complex… I love the fact that it starts off tasting almost like an under-hopped Imperial Stout, but then the wheat beer yeast kicks in and takes us on a new road, which serves as a magical shortcut between Munich and St. Petersburg. The alcohol in this beer, though it can be felt eventually, can’t be tasted any more than in a 5% Helles. The shockingly low hopping rate manages to account for any molecule of maltose headed from the “balanced” side of the equation to the “cloying” side. This beer really displays finesse—it captures all that’s good about hefeweizen and Imperial Stout/Porter without losing balance, complexity or my interest. Great beer… (1,683 characters)

Photo of pezoids
4.03/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Surprisingly, this beer poured a very dark, almost black color, but when held up to the light some ruby tinges shown through. The light coffee colored head thinned out pretty quick. Nice roasty aroma with fermented fruitiness there, along with coffee and caramel. The taste is interesting – fruity sweet, complex and somewhat malty. Does not show the typical wheat characteristics, like sourness, bananas or cloves – the sweetness seems to overwhelm any of that. Beer is blended nicely and is very flavorful. It pushes the sweetness envelope for me, but tasty and drinkable nevertheless. (589 characters)

Photo of frank4sail
4.08/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Rich malt and blackberry jam in the nose. Deep dark (almost purple) opeque look with a pale/tanish head that settles quickly into a constant sheen with a 1/8 inch outer ring of lace on the glass. Medium smooth mouth. Initial sweet taste is cut by a sharp dry hop knife. Also in the finish there is a apple tartness left on a faintly dry tongue. This is a different kind of beer. You really have to think about what you are tasting.Rich-sweet-tart-cocoa-fruit beer. Needless to say there is alot going on in that bottle. I need another bottle to catch that again...

Cheers to the Victory BA Exchange for the sample! (617 characters)

Photo of MJR
4.52/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours an incredibly dark brown that appears to be black at first glance. Completely opaque, with absolutely no light penetration. It's brown head starts out an inch thick and fades away to a small ring around the edge of the glass.

Smell: Has the traditional banana, clove, and bubblegum covered by a heavy layer of roasted malt, chocolate, peppery spiciness, and dark fruits. Stunning in it's complexity, with a touch of raw alcohol just under the surface.

Taste: Rich and tart with many layers of complexity and flavors. The expected banana and clove are there, only to be supplanted by rich chocolate, caramel, and coffee notes. Peeling back another layer reveals a bunch of fruity flavors: apple, plum, black currant, and raison. Another layer is the lightly toasted, biscuity grain flavor. Wrapped around all of those is a steady but restrained spiciness which has a lively, peppery touch. Amazing...

Mouthfeel: Medium in body with a low amount of carbonation...I'd like to see a bit more. Finishes with a spicy shot of alcohol.

Drinkability: Damn good for it's strength. While the name implies that it's primarily a cold weather brew, I could put down a few of these in any season.

I think the head size and it's retention and the lack of carbonation have something to do with it's age and the long trip it made to my doorstep.

A 'thank you' goes out to Davo for sending me this one. (1,419 characters)

Ramstein Winter Wheat from High Point Brewing Company
93 out of 100 based on 239 ratings.