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Ramstein Winter Wheat - High Point Brewing Company

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Ramstein Winter WheatRamstein Winter Wheat

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

285 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 285
Reviews: 239
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 12.26%
Wants: 65
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
High Point Brewing Company visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: xlperro on 04-17-2002)
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Photo of brdc
3.83/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks yobdoog for this one.

Small capped bottle, poured into an Aventinus glass.
It is a very dark brown brew, with a voluminous tan head that shows very little retention and some lacing.
Nice aroma with bubblegum, some malty sweetness and fruitiness.
Limited carbonation, somewhat thin on the palate, it is mostly sweet and fruity, but has a hint of acidity that was unexpected and a little out of place.
Nice, but nothing special.

brdc, Apr 24, 2008
Photo of birchstick
3.83/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - dark brown, almost opaque with absolutely zero head. Looks more like a stout than a wheat beer.

S - very assertive smell - dark fruits and caramel malts with a zing of bubblegum and molasses. Smells sticky, if that makes any sense.

T - starts off with very dark fruits and sweet malts up front. However, I was very surprised that it leaves a lingering roastedness to it...this is a wheat beer!?

M - too thin and very little carbonation. However, the abv is extremely well masked.

D - this is the most interesting wheat beer I have tried. I was shocked a little bit by it, I guess I was expecting something a little different. If I could get this in Missouri, I could see myself purchasing it again.

birchstick, Jan 19, 2009
Photo of DrDemento456
3.85/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Quite possibly the darkest weizenbock I ever seen. Barely any head at all maybe some opaque colored head that fizzes to particularly nothing.

S - Quite mild banana, clove and and maybe some chocolate. A very solid light smell is good on such a high octane beer.

T - Some roast and molasses surprised me beneath some mild ripe fruits and mild spicy clove. Wheat seems mild yet balanced.

M - Kind of watery actually. Has mild flavors and seems not is intense as others describe. Medium heavy at best.

Overall I am not sure if this is a older bottle (like last years) but it's notched at October and has some sediment at the base. Even if its old it drinks rather well.

DrDemento456, Dec 25, 2012
Photo of womencantsail
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Bobby for sharing this one last week. Review transcribed from notes.

A: The pour is dark brown in color with some reddish highlights and a fluffy tan head.

S: The nose is fairly typical for a weizenbock. An interesting mix of bananas, cloves, sweet caramel, dark fruits and yeast.

T: The dark fruit and caramel translate quite intensely to the flavor. The beer is very sweet without as much in the way of the spicy, yeasty, and banana character that you expect from a Bavarian wheat beer.

M: The carbonation is moderate and gives the beer a fairly full and creamy feel on the tongue.

D: This was an interesting take on a weizenbock. I am more of a fan of the German examples (who isn't?) but that was certainly passable.

womencantsail, Feb 09, 2010
Photo of BEERchitect
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A solid Weizenbock that favors the more 'bock-like' character over the wheat. Very complex and flavorful.

The pour delivers a solid brown hue with a timid lace of a head. Lacking staying power, the foam seems to never completely diminish. Light legging on the beer shows its strength of alcohol and sweetness.

Very complex aromas cover the gammot from chocolates, nuts, and toast to esters of cherries, dates, raisons, and figs. Red wine alcohols give a slight vinous note as if aged in an oak barrel.

Flavors continue the complex and integrated character, leading the way with malty rich toffee/molassas, chocolate, toast-breads, and nutty flavors. The fruity esters give a mix of acidic cherries, grapes, and stone fruits. Again, the red wine notes make great impact going into the finish.

The well integrated carbonation leads to a weighted and creamy texture, though fleeting late. Malty and robust up front but the beer's sweetness gives way to a dry, alcoholic, and acidic note that boarders on mild astringencies.

Ramstein Winter Wheat is a fantastic Weizenbock that exhibits the deep chocolate and fruity aspects of the style and religates the wheat flavor and feel to supportive roles only.

Thanks Mikeyv35!

BEERchitect, Jun 22, 2010
Photo of brewandbbq
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours opaque mahogany with crimson edging. Barely a trace of spritzy head rose up before instantly dissapearing. Zero lacework or retention.

Aromatics are full-on malty, with a trace of chocolate and a good whiff of alcohol. Quite clean and caramel-stuffed.

On the thick side of medium bodied, sticky and slick. Low carbonation adds some cloyness.

Rich malt, caramel, and chocolate lead off the pallet. Alcohol follows through with some substantial warmth. A slight tang from the wheat but otherwise a very clean lager.

Finishes with lingering caramel, chocolate and some faint wet paper.

This one is tasting a bit stale, or maybe it was never too spectacular to begin with?
The lack of carbonation and poor retention is not a good sign, regardless.

brewandbbq, Jul 21, 2008
Photo of warriorsoul
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Jetsbeer for this hand delivery...
Pours a thick black with a full finger of light brown head that sticks around for a little while...very little lacing.
Very inviting with first whiffs...roasted malt, fig and delicate spice.
Taste is pretty darn impressive...I believe this is my first weizenbock, so wasn't sure what to expect. That roasty character is very abundent in the flavor with a hint of smoke and a vineous quality with cherries, raisins and more spice than the nose would suggest.
The wheat is balanced nicely and really contributes to the mouthfeel...while this one is quite thick, the carbonation is high and distracts the drinkability for me personally. Really enjoy the flavor and the finish is quite clean, but I would not have more than a couple of these in an evening...just realized the abv is 9.5%...very well hidden and would sneak up real fast.
I would really like to try this on tap and will try to find some more of their offerings in the future.

warriorsoul, Feb 05, 2006
Photo of Pegasus
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Deep mahogony in color, with no highlights, little head to speak of, a persistent white collar, and scattered patches of foam, small lacing.

Aroma: Coffe, dark caramel, bitter chocolate, dark fruit, and black bread. In all, the aroma is deep, rich, and very appealing.

Taste: Rich chocolate, coffee, and dark caramel througtout. The chocolate and coffee flavors are particularly appealing. Beneath those superb flavors, there is a distracting note of tart wheat, which seems to detract from the coffee and chocolate notes.

Mouth feel: Smooth and soft on the palette, fairly full, with zesty carbonation.

Drinkability/notes: Very pleasing, although the tart note beneath the surface in the taste seemed slightly oppressive as the tasting progressed. I am made to wonder if this sample had suffered in transport or storage. Still, its one I would like to try again. A word to the wise, the alcoholic content of this beer is very well disguised, it seemed only a little stronger than a typical beer.

Pegasus, Jun 26, 2005
Photo of aracauna
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Mahogany black with a faded khaki head that’s airy and fleeting. Licorice in the aroma with a slight bubblegum ester note backing it up. There’s a lot of complexity in the flavor with chocolate, an interesting cross of tea and coffee, charcoal and more of those bubblegum esters.

aracauna, Jul 23, 2004
Photo of flexabull
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of eclectic. Thanks again!

Pours a dark brown color, with a very thin head.

Aromas are toasty, bright, and slightly sweet.

Beer is sweet, creamy, with toasted malt flavors. There is a nice nutty taste, and a spicy hop finish.

Mouthfeel is nice, full and smooth.

Drinkability is good. This is a nice easy drinking weizenbock.

flexabull, Sep 09, 2007
Photo of WesWes
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

The beer pours a deep dark black color with a 1/4" offwhite head that quickly fades to spotty lacing. The aroma is good. It has a rich and intense wheat scent that smells of cloves. It also has a malty side that boasts of chocolate and crystal malts. It is fruity with wheat, but dry and roasted with black malts; very nice. The taste is good. It has a dry and roasted malt flavor that goes down smooth and warms a bit on the finish. It is rich with chocolate malts which give it a dark character. The fruity clove taste is evident, but little in comparison. The mouthfeel is decent. It is a full bodied beer with a little less than adequate carbonation. This is probably the best weizenbock I've ever had. It has a great malt bill along with aroma and taste. It needs a little more carbonation, but it drinks well just the same.

WesWes, Mar 16, 2005
Photo of Crosling
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Maple and toffee, with hints of coffee cream, burnt popcorn, clove-like yeast, chocolate, vanilla and fruit platter in the nose. Opaque brown color. initially sweet on the palate, like grape jelly. Burnt cocoa butter, black currant and plum follow, with light hints of chocolate wheat in the backround. Fluffy as hell. Gotta say I like this brewery and their concept.

Crosling, May 28, 2006
Photo of Wasatch
3.93/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks goes out to Hojaminbag for this brew.

Pours a nice dark brown color, some carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with minimal sticky lacing. The nose is malty, with some toffee notes, and caramel. The taste is slightly sweet malty, slightly bitter, with some toffee. Medium Body. Drinkable, this is a pretty tasty brew.

Wasatch, Mar 01, 2011
Photo of emerge077
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to PEBKAC for this one.

Pours into a weizen glass a deep reddish brown, that is nearly opaque. Two fingers of dark tan foam rises up and sticks around for a good while.

Slight tartness in the aroma, some wheat and sweeter notes too.

Very malty, nutty with some estery banana and dried fruit. Lingering smokiness is there too, behind the main attributes. Tobacco/leather is very mild in the aftertaste. Smooth mouthfeel from the yeast content, but the light tartness conflicts a little with the creaminess.

Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 9.50% on this one...hides it well! Bottom line, it's tasty and worth trying, though my favorite is still Victory Moonglow.

emerge077, Feb 09, 2008
Photo of garymuchow
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Many thanks to pezoids for this sample.
Nice deep dark malt aroma with a strong fruit presence. A touch of alcohol. Little to no phenols.
Dark, dark, dark brown. Opaque. Pours with an insignificant head that leaves immediately, leaving only a miniscule ring.
Really nice deep rich malt, with heave dark fruit. Seems like a chocolate quality, but not like a stout with no roast, but a heavy deep richness that is chocolate like. Very nice. Again lighter on the phenols than other examples of style. Wheat does add to character with a slight spicy bite.
Very fine carbonation and very good smoothness. Rich and full, but not heavy. Even has a bit of a watery character, esp. as it warms.
This is good. Quite good, but I'm not sure it's quite at the level that some claim it to be. I really like the chocolate character, but I miss the phenols. It also didn't seem to increase in richness or quality as it warmed. Not dissappointing as a beer, but only in the expectations the high scores had lead me too.

garymuchow, Feb 19, 2005
Photo of speter
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours a dark brown with virtually no head and no lacing (I can perhaps fault the bar for unclean glasswear, but I couldn't raise any real foam on this even with vigorous swirling).

S: Sweet chocolate, caramel, and banana. A banana split in a glass.

T: Follows the nose closely. The idea is great: take the banana and clove from a traditional German weizen, and add chocolatey notes. This does it well, and I'm glad I tried it.

M: Very rich, although the carbonation was severely lacking.

D: I had planned at one point to brew something like this at home, and I'm glad I had the chance to try this one on tap. In my opinion, this is simply too sweet for anything but an occasional sipper. I can't imagine trying to get through a whole homebrew batch of this.

speter, Feb 24, 2011
Photo of Westsidethreat
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Sulldaddy for this opportunity.

A: Quite chocolaty looking, almost chalky like a liquid chocolate beer might be. Bit lighter and more amber than cola, very cloudy. Head came and went rapidly, just a bit of ring remains.

S: Subtle smokiness, tomato vine, dried prunes, minor vanilla and a touch of toffee.

T: Begins sort of like a butterscotch cola; sweet, slight sour twang but rounded with a touch of butter. Gentle smokey, red fruits, brown sugar and dark berries. Finishes with some nice toffee flavors and amber sweetness.

M: Medium mouthfeel, low carbonation. Bit hard.

D: Good beer. Really grows on you as it warms up.

Westsidethreat, Sep 19, 2006
Photo of steelerguy
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured a dark brown coffee like color with just a bit of light transmission around the edges. Nice high head that dropped to absolutely nothing very quickly. Moderate carbonation.

S - Lots of nice dark caramel and chocolate roasted malt aroma with a little tang, almost like a Belgian beer. All malt and lots of malt.

T - The malts really come through again and there is some dark fruit along with a bit of chocolate. There is also some serious clove flavor in there, I wonder if a Belgian yeast was used and perhaps a slightly higher temperature than normal lagars. Adds depth and I like it.

M - Finishes pretty crisp, less body than I expected, and the carbonation cleans the palate nicely. Some definite alcohol warmth but it hides it's high ABV well, no harshness.

D - Great winter warmer, when you are looking for something a little different than an American Ale. Packs a punch, but is balanced and smooth with quite a bit of interesting depth in flavor.

steelerguy, Nov 18, 2010
Photo of sponberg
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

a bottle from the SAME four pack as the 2002 review, aged in a 55 degree cellar for four years.

Deep brown with a tan head, doesn't last long. Not much aroma - maybe some toffee, not much else.

This beer ages spectacularly!!! Starts with a smoky, toffeish maltiness, no hops left except for a light bitterness. The same smoky/toffee/hints of wheat/ester flavor carries though the flavor, with a dried cherry note kicking in at the end. No burn whatsoever, and what oxidation there is is well covered by the primary beer flavors. Not as chewy as I'd expect, especially given the percent alcohol. Glad I have one more - the question is, when does it go into the fridge?

Unequivocally recommended for beer cellarers. One of those "what if...?" experiments that definitely panned out.

sponberg, Sep 19, 2006
Photo of WeisGuy
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a - pours deep brown almost black, small off-white head with no retention and not much lacing

s - deep roasted malt and coffee, a bit of licorice, hints of wheat, alcohol present

t - sweet roasted malt and coffee up front with a bit of chocolate and licorice, wheat is detectable as well with a finish that has a hint of alcohol and a little bitterness

m - not much carbonation, medium-to-full bodied, dry finish, nice warming

d - pretty drinkable, the alcohol is not very evident except in the warming, dryness of the finish might limit somewhat, a rich beer

Overall, a very nice beer. My first Weizenbock...very reminiscent of a Doppelbock, but you can definitely pick up the wheat.

WeisGuy, Feb 18, 2007
Photo of joeskirkie
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The six pack holder is a Ramstein Hefe-Weizen six pack holder, but wherever it says "Classic Wheat Beer" theres a sticker placed over it that says "Winter Wheat Doppelbock"

I'm, needless to say, confused. But as for the beer itself, beautiful. Black as night. It's robust, strong, long-lasting tan head developed aggressively, watch out.

An aroma of cholcolate-covered cherries, it's so very very tempting.

Taste: roasted caramel, can they even do that? A very slight aftertaste thats hints of alcohol.

It's kinda dry and theres a good amount of carbonation. I'm left very satisfied. I know the stickers say Dopplebock but I think I can agree with the Weizenbock classification given here (yeah it's not a hard leap to make). I could so totally have another one of these, but I'd need to space them out. Oh but is it ever good.

joeskirkie, Mar 04, 2006
Photo of Jacobob10
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I picked this up from Ramsey Liquors in NJ a few weeks back and they said that Ramstein had sent them a case of their Blonde Wheat and it was accidentally filled with the Winter Wheats. So the six pack I purchased actually had a Blonde Wheat box filled with Winter Wheat botles. What a tragedy I stumbled upon!

This pours very dark brown. Opaque with a one-finger tan head that dissapates quickly into a thin head which remains for the entire life of the beer. The aroma consisted mostly of roasted malts with some clove mixed in there.

What an interesting flavor! It's got the roasted malt backbone but with a wheat yeast overtone that gives it a clovey, banana-like flavor. Interesting, but not incredible. The aftertaste left a weird yeasty flavor in my mouth. Still a very enjoyable and drinkable beer. Different mix of flavors and aromas that may take another beer or two for me to get used to.

Jacobob10, May 02, 2006
Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer poured into the glass blackish brown with a tan to almost brown low head which was persistent but in the end failed to lace the glass.

The aroma was nutty with a toasty presence and tons of dark fruits, raisins most notable, coupled with a strong wheat presence. The aroma also had a definite wheat presence, some chocolate and a dark caramel.

The flavor was malty with chocolate most notable, some low banana fruit character and plenty of dark fruits. The dark fruits were raisins. The beer was toasty and biscuity with a strong dark caramel and a nice wheat to boot.

The finish was dry, but barely so, with wheat, chocolate, dark caramel and dark fruits lasting melded into the aftertaste and beyond. The body was just above medium with a good mouthfeel as a result of the wheat. The carbonation was not high and no alcohol presented itself. A really nice beer, but so much chocolate that it almost would present itself as a porter instead of a weizenbock. Enjoy before Jul, just made it!

12 ounce bottle. Thanks BeerBeing!

GCBrewingCo, Jul 28, 2006
Photo of ballewblake
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from bottle into my Duvel glass.

Low brown-tan head on pour that faded fast. Lacing falls down and doesn't stick. Dark brown body, opaque. Nose is sweet, slightly smokey. Taste is smokey, sweet, banana in the after taste, some clove. Carbonation is a nice balance, alcohol heat isn't tasted, but its noticed heat wise in the stomach. I'm not much of a weizen/hefe fan, but I could drink one of these on occasion, but not back to back, or over and over. A good example of the style none the less. Props to my buddy Adam (PEBKAC) for this one.

ballewblake, Jun 21, 2009
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4/5  rDev -3.8%

acurtis, Jul 14, 2012
Ramstein Winter Wheat from High Point Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 285 ratings.