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India Pale Ale - Wagner Valley Brewery

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India Pale AleIndia Pale Ale

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very good

83 Reviews
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Reviews: 83
Hads: 140
Avg: 3.79
pDev: 16.09%
Wants: 4
Gots: 7 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Wagner Valley Brewery visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
American IPA |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Shiredave on 10-20-2002

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Reviews: 83 | Hads: 140
Photo of dmamiano
2.94/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Well, the beer looked good. Nice clear and clean yellow with good carbonation and head.
Smell seemed a bit stale, almost skunky and metallic. Some hoppiness came through, but wasnt as pleasant as most are.
Taste was week, almost what i call "hop water".
Not offensive or anything, just seemed diluted with no real character,
Drinkable, but not good.

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Photo of Franz4
2.98/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A- poured a penny copper color with an off-white head, about a finger's worth.

S- smells sweet with a slight pine hint to it, very fresh

T- the hops come through in the taste, with some additional lemon flavor... lemon pine-sol comes to mind, although it's not that bad.

M- initial carbonation fades quickly, hoppy finish that stays with you for a while.

D- seems to me the biggest drawback to this beer is it's lack of balance, average at best, there are plenty of better IPAs out there.

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Photo of klewis
3.08/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Following an afternoon of wine tasting in the finger lakes with my girlfriend and family, we concluded the day at Wagner. We did not go for the wine, as I was informed by experienced members of my party that the wine there was NOT to be drunk under any circumstances, but rather we decided that we would sample some of their brews. Unfortunately, all the tastings were concluded by the time that we arrived, but I still bought a mixed sixer anyway...

A: Copper colored with a big frothy head.

S: Aromas of yeast, pine, and maybe I'm just imagining it because it came from a winery, but remarkably like white wine.

T: Kinda boring. A bit of hops flavor and lots of bitterness in the finish. Also tastes like it may be slightly oxidized. For an IPA, this beer is very mediocre in this category.

M: Good carbonation and medium body. Sticks nicely to the mouth.

D: This one's not horrible, but it's not worth the $8.99/sixer when there are so many other great IPA's out there.

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Photo of nataku00
3.13/5  rDev -17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bottle poured into a tulip glass. Label seems to make this out to be English style IPA more than an American one so I'll treat it as such. Beer pours a clear dark bronze color with a finger and a half of off white bubbly head. Plenty of sticky lacing as the head recedes to a mix of small and large bubbles scattered across the surface and collar. Well carbonated, many tiny bubbles floating up.

Nose has light earthy and grassy hop aromas but mainly malty, with caramel and bread. Pretty weak aromas as well, unfortunately.

Definitely an English IPA with earthy bitterness initially, then a big malt backbone, biscuit, bread, caramel. Finish is medium with some lingering malty flavors and a big earthy and grassy bitterness drying out the tongue a bit.

Medium to full body with a thick syrupy feel to it. Pretty uncomfortable to drink with the big mouthfeel to this.

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Photo of mrasskicktastic
3.18/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A - Very faintly hazy amber with a nice sized thick, frothy tan head. A tiny bit of visible carbonation as well. A touch of lacing clings to the side.

S - Impressive pine aroma backbone with a touch of caramel malt and faint orange rind underneath. It is a decent delivery of typical IPA smells.

T - The foretaste is mild caramel malt and a touch of pine hop flavor that immediate switches to an extremely potent bitterness with a little bit of grassy and lingering pine flavor.

M - Medium viscosity, carbonation is a nice level, it would be refreshing too if the bitterness didn't make it seem otherwise.

D - It could be worse. The bitterness kills any hope of drinkability. Still, it is a good beer. Bitter lovers will be pleased.

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Photo of HappyHourHero
3.19/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Very small pale cream colored head lasted about 10 seconds before it faded to a ring. Juicy, candied hop aroma A bit of hops mixed with some lightly sweet pale malt flavor up front, not as strong as I expected from the aroma. Bitterness kicks in midway and holds strong through the finish. Mouthfeel is watery, dissapointing. Smelled great, but I was dissapointed by everything else.

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Photo of mobud
3.23/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into pint glass from bottle.

A- Beautiful copper color. Slightly cloudy with a 1" head and active carbonation.

S- A wet grass smell from the hops and not much.

T- Hoppy, but slightly metallic taste.

M- Full body with an even balance between the ale and the carbonation.

D- Not bad, but not great. I have had this beer before at the brewery and this beer is not as good as I remember. I would like to visit there again and also get another sample to see if it was me or if that is the nature of the beer.

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Photo of becktone
3.23/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This beer's appearance is pretty good. The color is clear copper/cherry wood/orangish in color. The head cascades at first when poured, not quite as good as a guinness nitro, but still pretty good. The head starts off at two fingers in width and receeds leaving lacing along the sides. It receedes to the point to where it becomes just a film over the top of the beer. All in all it looks pretty good. The only quaff I have with it is the fact that the carbonation is very active. I mean its really really busy in there, about the same amount as a Sprite would have. It looks as if this one might be over carbonated.

As I opened this beer I splashed some onto my pants. The first thing I noticed about the way this beer smelled was the sweet malt backbone it had. Sure the hops were there but the sweet malt aroma was upstaging the hop aroma. Very unusual for an IPA, espicially an American IPA. Hop aroma-floral-is there but is in the background of the aroma.

I've had better IPAs, but this one isn't too bad. Unlike the aroma, the hops are forefront in the taste of this brew. This beer's hop character is made up, in my opinion of mostly floral tasting hops. Not much citrus character in there. Bittering hops make themselves easliy detectable. There's not much in the way of malt flavor to balance the hops out. I expected a little bit of malt flavor as the aroma suggests, but not much there.

On the palate the beer is medium bodied, nothing special really. It is not overcarbonated as I expected it to be from the appearance of the carbonation. All in all it is an average IPA. There's nothing that would make me buy this again and nothing that would make me not want to buy this again. Its just middle of the road. If you really want a good IPA go with Stone IPA,Celebration ale, or Two Hearted Ale.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.24/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Gary for quenching the thirst on this one.

The beer opens with a sturdy and strong, froathy pour. Fantastic head forms on the dark copper beer. Retainage is as good as can be asked. A mild dry-hopped haze gives some visual weight to the copper hue. A really good look.

Strong aromas of citrus and grapefruit hops stand well above the caramelized, cracker-like malts. However, nearly equally as strong is a plastic-phenolic character that hurts the nose. Moderate on the fruitiness and light on bready notes, the beer is otherwise clean at the scent.

Flavors obviously favor the hops, and with strong blends of citrus (grapefruit and orange zest), pine, and fresh cut grasses. Sometimes herbal and vegital in taste. The malts are well attenuated to deliver medium caramel and graham cracker taste but with low-lying sweetness. This really allows the hops to pungent hops to shine. All is good, except for that plastic taste that interferes with the complex hop flavors.

Well malted and fermented. The malts give a nice meloidin reaction that gives the indication of sweetnes without leaving any sugary films on the mouth. Hop resins deliver various sharp pangs of bitterness on the back of the tongue and sometimes with a metalic and bitey feel.

This beer reminds me of some good IPA's that I encounter during homebrew competitions. I'm not entirely sure I received a fresh bottle. I'll enjoy re-reviewing to compare notes another day.

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Photo of Naes
3.29/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This IPA has a copper brown color (darker than most IPA’s) with a large off white head.
Aroma is faint, but includes a bit of citrus and hops.
The flavor starts out with a bit of malty sweetness, then the hops and citrus come in strongly.
Mouth feel is medium in body, with mild carbonation.

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Photo of psinderson
3.3/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle poured into pint glass.

Appearance: Very nice looking clear copper color with a thick slightly off-white head. Great head retention.

Smell: Citrus hops hit hard. Very faint detection of caramel notes. This is a tad darker than most IPA's so I would expect some roasty aromas.

Taste: Of course, citrus hops up front, but there is also a bit of sweetness that fades quickly, but stays in the background. There is a strong bitter hop aftertaste that is just a little too sticky for me.

Mouthfeel: Good body, a little oily.

Drinkability: Decent drinkability for an IPA, except for the extreme hop aftertaste.

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Photo of Sammy
3.35/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Very Bitter and salty and not as hoppy as expected. I think I kept it from becoming too cold and flattening the hops effect. I got a head. Maybe it was Premier Gourmet storing it too cold or old. Did not get the hops or citrus flavour expected from this brew or the IPA type. In a pinch, could go with juicy salty meat.

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Photo of far333
3.43/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very clear honey amber apricot colored with a frothy beige head that comes from a vigorous pour. Aroma of bready malt and understated hops, some lemon and metallic notes.

Even flavor of hops and malt, neither one dominates, fairly well balanced. Malty flavors seem a bit muted, maybe staled. Hops move from orange rind to pine and back again. Resiny pine hops linger. Some metallic and powdery notes.

Even mouthfeel, finishes somewhat dry and tingly. Decent drinkability, but I would like some fresher flavors.

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Photo of jwc215
3.45/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours hazed copper amber with a towering (rather too much so, esp.in initial pour - couldn't pour all at once because of that) that stays, then descends. Patchy lacing sticks to the glass.

The smell is spicy - citrusy (lemon/lime) and piney with some caramel.

The taste is of tart tropical/citric fruitiness, becoming pepper/spicy with tea-like bitterness. A hint of rounding caramel and a slight touch of alcohol come through.

Initially it is foamy and over-carbonated, despite a carefully pour. After head descends to a reasonable height, I carefully drank it to get the body to come to my lips from under the head. The body did still become foamy as it went over my tongue. After the second pour, it did have an improved body.

I suspect that something was off with the carbonation level on this bottle...hindering, but not destroying "drinkability"...
Anyway, hopefully, this was a fluke... The "locally grown hops" were appreciated in a more "balanced" interpretation of the style.

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Photo of axeman9182
3.51/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into my Duvel tulip.

Wagner Valley India Pale Ale pours a completely see through amber. There's only about a finger of bone colored head, and it fades somewhat quickly. Lacing is nonexistent. The nose is impressively pungent, and varied. There's a classic grapefruity citrus note from the Cascade hops used, as well as a light, almost flowery herbal quality present as well. There's also an unpleasant dankness that I've come to associate with Simcoe hops, and it's really the only down part of he aroma. You may be noticing a lack of any mention of malty/sweet aromas, and that's because there are none, and that carries over into the flavor. There's really no backbone to the beer, it just jumps right in to a solid bite of bitterness, and a back end of hop flavors that mirror those found in the nose. The body passes being bone dry, and lands itself in "watery" territory. Carbonation is very good though, the bubbles help the hoppy flavors pop, while not overwhelming the barely there body. Wagner Valley IPA's got a very good aroma, and if the malt bill was shored up a bit the rest of the beer could follow suit.

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Photo of williamherbert
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The color is a somewhat cloudy shade of amber. Nice amount of head.

Has a nice understated hop aroma, with something else. Can't quite tell what it is, but maybe honey? It's got a heavier flavor than most IPAs and a richness I can't put my finger on.

Pleasant enough balance of malts and hops. The hops are there, but definitely not dominant. I would prefer a little more hoppage, but I could probably drink more consecutively without it.

It's thick and a little creamy. Heavier than usual, but leaves a pleasant aftertaste.

It's a good beer, but not one I would buy a case of. Worth checking out in a mixed six-pack (which is how I got it).

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Photo of Hojaminbag
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A fairly clear copper body with about a finger of soapy, white head. Pretty good retention, as a cloud of foams sits atop the body throughout the entire drink. Nice lacing too, it does a good job of covering most of the glass.

Pretty hoppy nose. Fruity and a bit bitter with biscuit and caramel malt aromas behind it.

This thing is pretty good. The flavor is on the hoppy side, but not super hoppy. The hop profile is pretty interesting too; although a bit of grapefruit and some bitterness are noticeable, there is also a lot of earthy flavors mixed in with orange zest and pineapple. Behind that is a malt base that tastes like biscuit. Fairly balanced.

Mouthfeel is moderate in body and carbonation.

Pretty drinkable, and overall a decent IPA.

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Photo of RblWthACoz
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear amber brown with a decent crème head. Nose is acidic citrus. Flavor is a biting pine acidity. A bit too salty I think. But it still works. Feel is a slightly fuller carbonation. Liquid is typical. This is an okay IPA. Too salty and acidic IMO. But it's still drinkable.

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Photo of PatandDavid
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Sponberg for this one! Cloudy deep tangerine, the head died down, but has kept my pint glass in lace the whole time. Smell is a bit muddied, definite grassy hops, but something slightly brassy as well. Mouthfeel is very nice. Malt greets you, then the hops meet your tastebuds. They aren't overly strong, but definitely have some tannic overtones. I am still getting a brassy note in the finish. Nice beer, but I'm puzzled by the brass that I am picking up.

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Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle. Pours a hazy brown with a small white head. Aroma of caramel malt and light fruits. Flavor of caramel malt, some sweet fruits (tropical fruits, maybe a little banana), with a bittering finish. There is a slight vegetal quality to the malt. This is an ok IPA, not that hoppy really, definitely more malty. Still, a pleasant beer to drink.
7/4/7/4/14 (3.6/5)

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Photo of Reidrover
3.58/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

from a 12 oz longneck
Visually quite attractive,but not really what I expect from an IPA. Its a slighly murky, light brown colour with orangy tinges..small off white head,leaves nice lacing.
It has the usual IPA aromas,though a little subdiued also a slight honeyish scent.
Unusual taste, very sweet then a nice hop bitterness...though this seems to balance rather weell for an American IPa, remeinds me a bit of some of the British IPA/Golden ales.
Pretty darn nice on the tongue..smooth..long lasting after taste.
Quite a nice IPA, rather different than the usual PNW IPA, but If i had to compare it would be akin to Bridgeport IPA.
Thanks again to Jah Noth for this beer.

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Photo of brentk56
3.61/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a hazy amber color with a frothy white head that persists extremely well and leaves sheets of lacing down the side of the pint glass

Smell: Strong malty caramel aroma with a woody resinous hop character; slight butterscotch aroma (Ringwood yeast, I wonder?)

Taste: Starts out with a stong malty caramel flavor that is joined by an earthy bitterness almost from the beginning; mid-palate and into the finish, the bitter flavors build and dominate into a very earthy, but somewhat rough finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to thick body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: Very unique flavors in this IPA; big malt profile almost like an APA but the combination of English (EKG) and American (Cascade) hops creates a tension of earthy and fruity flavors that ultimately doesn't work well for me; worth a try, however

Thanks, tempest, for the opportunity

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Photo of lovindahops
3.61/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

grabbed a sixer at Wegman's. A fingerlake brew to get close to closing out summer

A- pours a copper carbonated body with a super white head of foam. There is literally big time lacing swooped all over the sides

S- a pretty strong scent of grapefruit and some sweet fruit. There is a prevelant malt profile that is present as well.

T- a surprising dominance of bitterness with grapefruit and pine flavor. It's just a real bitter brew

M- medium bodied and creamy

D- Wagner Valley IPA makes a very bitter and dry brew. The emphasis on grapefruit and bitter themes make it different in the IPA sense. Not bad at all

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Photo of metter98
3.62/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is crystal clear amber in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a quarter-finger high off white head consisting of big bubbles that slowly died down, leaving a patch of bubbles on the surface and a thick coating of bubbles down the sides of the glass.
S: There are moderately strong of pine resin hops in the nose.
T: The hops really stand out in the flavor of this beer, contributing piney flavors and a moderately strong amount of bitterness. Hints of caramel malts are also noticeable.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The beer is packed with hops but could use more malt for balance and make it easier to drink.

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Photo of akorsak
3.65/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 12 oz bottle purchased at the winery/brewery complex in late July.

A: The IPA is a coppery brown color, rather clear even on the first pour. A small head, less than a finger, was easily accomodated in my Chimay glass. No lacing.

S: Plenty of caramel lingering around this beer. So much that it crowds out the hoppiness that I liked when I had it on tap.

T: Lots of caramel and just a bit of hops. The bready flavors are strong, mixing with the caramel for a full grainy body. Hoppiness comes late, blasting a flurry of flavor over the malts. The hoppiness isn't very strong although the bitterness lingers alongside the caramel. The hoppiness is weaker than I was expecting.

M: The mouthfeel is caramel malty, bready and sweet. The hops take second fiddle and never rise up.

D: A nice beer to sip on, just not hoppy enough for my tastes. That may actually aid the drinkability the more I think about it.

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India Pale Ale from Wagner Valley Brewery
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