Collaborative Evil 2009 - Flossmoor Station Restaurant & Brewery

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86
very good

53 Ratings
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Ratings: 53
Reviews: 37
rAvg: 3.85
pDev: 11.43%
Wants: 4
Gots: 7 | FT: 0
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Flossmoor Station Restaurant & Brewery visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Pale Ale |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: orbitalr0x on 10-06-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 53 | Reviews: 37
Photo of Jwale73
3.61/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a dull burnt orange hue with a slightly hazy clarity and no head. Nose is malty, slightly vegetal and reveals melon and a spicy quality. Taste is peppery and malty with a suggestion of passion fruit. Mouthfeel is light-medium in body with a lively carbonation. All and all interesting and complex (perhaps a bit too much going on); it's held up fairly well for the age and the style.

Photo of cadizkyguy
4.05/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2009 vintage... stored upright in mini fridge since purchase...

First off, I have to admit I really enjoy the brews from Flossmoor Station... This one I purchased on a night I ate at Flossmoor Station, the beer-b-que ribs are to die for... Awesome. I likely had the house IPA with the ribs and took this one to go.

Appearance.. An earthy golden hue. ..a thin white head initially.. then as the bottle empties, I swirl around the sediment at the bottom and pour in the snifter.. and then I get a nice white head..

Smell.. As the beer warms, the aromatics get better and better. Smells a bit like an English IPA, only better.

Taste.. Wow Even at 3+ years, this beer is exquisite This is what a Belgian strong ale should taste like fresh. The alcohol is mildly masked. Earthy, yeasty, wonderfully brewed.

Mouthfeel.. What can I say. Flossmoor Station brews some excellent brews. This one ranks right up there with my all time favorite, Pullman Brown.

Overall.. Paired with a marie callender chicken pot pie fresh from the oven. This was a great pairing.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.03/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle: Poured a deep orangey color ale with a small foamy head with average retention and some light lacing. Aroma of sugar with light spices is not the most enticing. Taste is also dominated by overly sweet notes with too much residual sugar with light spices also noticeable. Body is somewhat full with oily consistency and medium carbonation with light warming alcohol notes. I thought this beer was too sweet with too much residual sugar.

Photo of LaCoursiere
3.76/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2009 vintage courtesy of Alewatcher.

A - pours a nice amber color with a yellowish off-white head that dissipates to a thin covering in a few minutes. Nice lacing. Slight haze.

S - Strong aroma that is full of apple. Apple sauce and spiced apple cider. A little one-dimensional in this regard.

T - A little bit of apple, but not as much as the nose. I also get hints of plum, orange and spice, maybe cardamom? There is some phenolic character, but it's not overpowering. There is a good bit of heat and a bit of a numbing sensation. I don't know if this is the spice or the alcohol.

M - This is medium bodied with moderate carbonation level. It has a very slick feel up front with a dry finish .

O/D - This was my first time trying a Flossmore associated beer and also the oldest belgian-style strong ale I've had. I think it held up very well and was a pleasure to drink. I would not turn this down if I had another chance to try it.

Photo of billab914
3.08/5  rDev -20%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

22oz bottle poured into a tasting glass. It poured amber orange in color with a thin, creamy head scattered across the top of the beer.

The aroma shows off the orange blossom flavors pretty prominently giving it kind of a floral, honey like flavor. Some bready malts ate there as well, but overall the floral, herbal, sweetness dominates.

The taste shows a lot of the orange blossom flavors to it as well with more of the floral, honey like flavors showing up. I get a little more maltiness to it though in the taste with a sweet and somewhat sugary sweetness in the finish. A little too floral and sweet though overall.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with carbonation being a little below average. Overall it was an interesting, but not that great of a beer. A little too floral, herbal and sweet for me.

Photo of Rhettroactive
2.57/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

From 22oz bottle to Portsmouth glass on 4/5/12
*From notes

-- Another off-the-wall pull from billab914 --

A: Clean golden. The dregs, when finally poured, clouds the beer like a Hefe. No real head here. Minor, thin white collar and no lacing follow a standard pour.

S: I seemed to be the only one at the table who thought this smelled like stale cat piss in a litter box. As it opens, I do get a touch of honey and wild flowers.

T: Ugh, liquid honey. Mead, anyone? Too much residual sugar. It's all too one note.

M: No complaints here. It's properly carbed for a three year old beer, and the weight and texture are all alright.

O: If given the chance to tick this, you may want to consider passing. It's like diabetes in a bottle. Too sweet and really fuckin' weird. In a bad way.

Photo of mikesgroove
4.6/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

nice murky color and a light head that is almost non existent, but still manages to produce a light bit of lacing. but the aroma starts to come up with nice touches of banana, apple, pears, light fruits mixed with hearty spices. nicely done. but as soon as you take that first sip it is over. just a wonderful mix of flavors that simply devour the palate. apples, currants, peaches, banana, clove, its all over the map but blended soo well. really just a wonderful beer. smooth finish with a light dryness.

Photo of corby112
3.58/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a cloudy dark golden orange color with a half finger off white head that slowly settles into a lasting ring. Spotty lacing left behind.

Sweet malty aroma with lots of caramel apple and pear. Subtle booze and faint hops but the nose is all sweet, toffee covered fruit.

Medium bodied with soft carbonation and a good balance of sweet malt and faint light fruit. Subtle spice with some pepper and cinnamon but the caramel malt and light fruits dominates. Carmel apple and pear along with a slight buttery presence before a touch of booze comes in, lingering into a dry finish. Much better than the horrid 08 version.

Photo of Arenbeer
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle not sure who sent me this but thanks!!

Poured at fridge temp into a tulip glass

A- Pours a nice golden copper with no head but a good amount of carbonation. Tiny bubbles sticking to the sides of the glass even being from 09.

S- Fruity begian yeast, bread, citrus or orange peel, spices, caramelized burnt sugars and strong hibiscus.

T- Creamy lighter malts with sweet caramel and burnt sugars create a nice base and mouthfeel followed by fruitiness from the yeast and fruits. All that is strongly complimented by a strong array of spices, citrus orange peel and tons of floral hibiscus.

M- Medium bodied with moderate carbonation and a nice slight bitter finish.

This beer is holding up great and definitely one of the most unique Strong Belgian Pale's I've had. The hibiscus creates a very interesting flavor unlike any I've come across.

SkÅL!

Photo of TheManiacalOne
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2009 release acquired from pochman, courtesy of BA Secret Santa 2009 so a big “Thank You” goes out to him. Poured from a 22oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep amber color, with a short off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains Belgian yeast, spices, caramelized malts, apples, honey and a touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet with flavors of honey, fruit, caramel and some spice. Then some bready flavors of Belgian yeast and a hearty malt character follow. The hops presence is very mild but brings some balance and there is little trace of the 10.00% ABV. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

O: Tasty, goes down very easily, not too filling, well-disguised kick, good representation of style, this is a nice bold and flavorful “Belgian Style Golden Ale” that is worth drinking for a long time.

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to someone for sharing this at a recent tasting (possibly Exiled?)

The beer pours an orange color with a white head. The aroma is heavy on the bread and sugar, with some yeast and grainy notes mixed in.

The flavor is heavy on the orange citrus notes with some yeast, sugar, assorted spices and toffee malt mixed in. Very interesting.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Photo of MasterSki
3.43/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Purchased a while back at the brewpub. Served in a Goose Island taster glass.

A - Pours with a finger of off-white foam that settles to a thin cap and thicker collar. Dark hazy peach nectar body.

S - Honey, buttery pilsener malt, some musty earthiness, and light alcohol as it warms up.

T - Bready malts, honey, light spicy esters in the finish. Not much "Belgian" character either.

M - Smooth, creamy, medium-full body, with medium-low carbonation. Not much alcohol heat or bite to this.

D - Not bad, but not nearly as interesting as the 2008 vintage. Kind of sweet "meh" here. Was probably a bit better fresh, but hasn't aged very gracefully.

Photo of Deuane
3.87/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A-Golden highlighted copper with bright orange highlights. Medium white head slowly reduces to a thin cap and leaves spotty lace.

S-Spicy and herbal with floral notes a bit yeasty with subtle honey sweetness and a touch of alcohol heat.

T-Spicy honey with a noticeable orange and lemon zest twang. Malty sweetness takes over in the finish and smooths things out. A building alcohol burn kicks in with a bit of warming.

M-Medium body, somewhat syrupy with lingering honey sweetness, spicy bitterness, alcohol heat and a drying finish.

D-A big, bold, burly beer that comes off a tad too sweet for me. Certainly a good beer but doesn't blow me away.

Photo of gford217
3.95/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle courtesy of FlssmrBrewAlum poured into a tulip.

Pours a hazy caramel orange with hints of red underneath a thick creamy white head that recedes to a soapy layer on top woth some streaks of lacing.

The aroma is floral and almost purfume-like with some orange rinds and spices. There is an underlying sugary fruit presence as well as some spicy oak.

The taste starts with the orange zest and has some earthy yeast and floral character. The finish has some vanilla as well as the barrel and spices including maybe coriander.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a moderate carbonation and some tingly spices and oak on the palate. It's not quite as hefty or

I like this one better than last years as the spices are not overpowering and mix well with the oranges. An interesting brew.

Photo of ktrillionaire
3.48/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Alex (MasterSki) for this gift, and for countless other acts of graciousness. He is one of the most awesome and generous people you could ever meet!

A - I cut the wax, pop the top, and then out pours a murky orange-amber brew replete with a soapy khaki froth; needless to say I am quite surprised by the appearance of this BSPA. It looks quite a bit like Barleywine or DIPA. As I drain the glass, random flecks of lace cling in scattershot fashion.

S - Big sweetness leaps out, first and foremost, followed by sweet cereal grains and tea-like herbal and floral nuances. It really is quite complex, exhibiting traits of BSPA, Tripel and Saison. Oak-y vanilla tones and vinous sherry-like nuances are increasingly available as it airs out. After about 15 minutes, subtle nuances of fresh-, overripe- and blossoming-orange segue into a more (too-?) prominent role in the nose.

T - The flavor is not exactly in line with the aromatic; it is strongly spicy and saucy, flavored with what seems to be white pepper, (the ghost of) sundried tomato, dry sack, and candi sugar. I am beginning to appreciate the orange blossom as it airs out, though I am not appreciating the accumulating sweetness. Overall, I could use more Pils-pale malt dryness, as this is beginning to cross into cloying territory.

M - Rich and silky, bordering on syrupy.

D - This beer reminds me of a De Dolle brew, but not in a particularly good way.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.1/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

--Edmund Burke

Sun-splashed tangerine with bumblebee highlights. Looks more like a strong amber than a strong pale. The toasted oatmeal crown almost reaches three fingers on the pour, has a solidly creamy texture, and is beginning to grace the glass with an attractive array of finely stippled lace. Good looking beer.

Good smelling beer too. The nose is well done, partly because it's different. It's floral (hibiscus, orange blossom water), slightly fruity, and lightly spicy (probably due to the yeast). It could be more pungent and powerful, but maybe it will get there as it warms.

Collaborative Evil 2009 is of roughly the same quality as Collaborative Evil 2008, while being a completely different kettle of fish. Both are solid... without being spectacular. This ale is surprisingly subtle (and not the least bit boozy) for the ABV.

Despite the color, it tastes like pale is the majority malt by far. Maybe a hint of toasted bread, but that's about it. Sweetness and bitterness are evenly matched, which is my preference for most BSPAs. Orange blossom water is still subtle, as is hibiscus, and the spicy yeast esters hit just the right note.

The mouthfeel, like everything else about this brew, is more 8.0% than 10.0%. Having said that, its relative lightness fits the rest of the attributes like hand in glove. Although the carbonation isn't Belgian ale wonderful, it's good enough.

Collaborative Evil 2009 is aging exceedingly well for anyone who's cellaring a bottle or two. This Flossmoor Station release is a finely crafted ale that is beautifully balanced, decidedly different and dangerously drinkable. Please let there be a Collaborative Evil 2010 in the works.

Photo of Hojaminbag
3.55/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I got this one from Gcurlow in the Secret Santa 09 BIF. Thanks Grant, this is my first beer from Flossmoor and it is a treat to sample it.

The body mixes a bright golden color with a subdued orange hue to make an interesting and attractive shade of orange. The white head is less than a finger in height after a couple of vigorous pours, and doesn't yield any lacing.

The orange peel and hibiscus added to this beer are pretty noticeable right off the bat, as orange and a an herbal or flowery aroma are present. Collaborative Evil also mixes fruity yeast characteristics, malt sweetness and a sugary-type sweetness into the aroma.

The flavor once again features a good deal of orange, along with an herbal flavor that I assume is the hibiscus. The Belgian yeast is pretty active here too, provided its own mix of fruitiness and spicy pepper. There is a ton of sweetness in the form of malt, but also a very sugary type of sweetness. All of that sweetness isn't surprising when I consider that this beer is 10% ABV. Speaking of the ABV, a little bit of warmth in the finish is really the only sign of the alcohol in Collaborative Evil, so that aspect of the beer is very well done.

The body of this beer is rather full, which is magnified by the below average carbonation. I think the feel works fairly well here considering the high alcohol content though.

Flossmoor Station's Collaborative Evil is a pretty good beer, and I'm glad I got the chance to try it.

Photo of kingcrowing
4.2/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

650ml waxed bomber poured into a chalice.

Pours a nce ruddy ruby red ith a small white head. Nose is really belgan, fruity an taschty.

Taste is a bit odd, it's very malty with lots of caramel and sweet, really sweet and smooth. Yeast is very low for a belgian style, it's not very fruity which I think would help but overall fairly mediocre.

Photo of PittBeerGirl
4.01/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Review #666 mwahahahaha....poured into my Duvel tulip glass.

A-Body is a uniformly translucent, very hazy bright copper hue. Pours with a 1-2 finger foamy white head that eventually fades to a thick collar. Plenty of lacing is left down the glass. Bubbles can be seen steadily rising to the top.

S-What comes through upfront in the nose is a big dose of exotic fruits such as mango and pineapple. This is definitely the main character but a substantial amount of bready and spicy yeast can be detected in the background.

T- The flavor is much more balanced than that of the nose. Upfront is a balance of exotic fruit flavors, a bready sweetness, spiciness, and the slightest hint of phenols. Spicy yeast really intensifies for the finish and becomes the highlight. What lingers is a big spiciness, a big breadiness, a hint of fruit, and a moderate alcohol warmth.

M- Light to moderate carbonation and a medium weight body full of yeasty consistency. The slightest amount of phenols also present.

D- This is a nice, well done Belgian Ale. ABV is pretty well hidden for the most part. This brew is exotic yet has a nice spiciness and a good balance to it. I do wish there was a delineation made between the Belgian ambers and the Belgian pale/golden ales because there is a big difference. A nice selection for review #666.

Photo of mdwalsh
4.27/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Orange-red, sort of opaque, less than one finger head but good active carbonation. The haze is really too much though.

S: FULL of spice, citrus, sweet marmalade, maybe some other spices. Hops and malt aren't really part of it here.

T: More citrus, creamy orange tastes. Like I said, marmalade, mostly orange, but there are other spices like coriander. Fruity. Lots of very small flavor elements presented together in a way that makes them huge.

M: Perhaps the orange is doing this for me but it really feels like a dreamscicle. Full bodied, but still well carbonated.

Photo of tpd975
4.12/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled at the pre-sex tasting.

A: Pours a nice golden hue with a thin beige head. Little retention and no lace.

S: Lots of candy sweetness. This is compounded by sweet yet floral notes.

T: Very unique flavors. Rock candy up front with nice zesty citrus. Honey and yeasty goodness is there as well. Light spices and hints of fresh flower nectar.

M: Medium in body smooth, tasty.

D: Good, a real unique beer.

Photo of homebrewhawk
3.65/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to GbVDave for this one. 22oz. wax dipped bottle. Served in a Tank 7 Tulip. Poured a brilliant reddish gold with a finger of off white head. Deep malty aroma including carmelized sugar with a hint of spice. Medium to full bodied. Smooth for a 10% beer. Very malty beer without a lot of sweetness. The spices were barely perceptible to me. Not a lot of Belgian yeast characteristics either. Not a bad beer, but not a lot going on either.

Photo of SaCkErZ9
4.27/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to nkersten for this loevely, very wax dipped bottle. I had a hell of a time scratching away the wax on the cap in order to get this baby popped.

Pours a pure amber honey color with no hazing or yeast floating about. A small white head forms but leaves rather abruptly.

Aroma is full of Belgian goodness; banana, cloves, bubblegum. Sweet and caramelly in the nose as well.

Very nice flavor. More of the bubblegum than in the nose with a significant bit of fruitiness resembling pineapple. The alcohol is supremely warming in this one and my cheeks and ears are already flush after only six or seven sips. Is it hot in here?

Sticky on the tongue without being cloying or too sugary sweet. A pretty easy drinker considering the alcohol. I actually like this beer a whole lot. This was a real treat. Thanks Nate.

Photo of joepais
4.1/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Jay23 for sending this my way.
I split his among some friends poured into tulip glasses it produced a great white head about two finger's high. The body of the brew was clear and had a wonderful orange color to it.

The aroma was clearly Belgian in character the fruity yeast was spot on. There also was a nice citric hop note towards the end.
The flavor was interesting as well. It had a orange bitter taste to start off then finished with a dry sweetness. The brew felt a solid medium to me with great carbonation.
This brew was a real treat to drink a great collaboration brew and another fabulous brew from Flossmoor Station. Extremely easy to drink with no trace of the 10% alcohol at all

Photo of Freethyhops
4.45/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz black waxed bottle courtesy of sproser and the welcome to Liberty City LIF.

A- pours a hazy gold color with a finger of fluffy white head. lacing is quite heavy.

S- smells of belgian yeast mixed with some floral notes. some nice citrus and spices in the backround as well.

T- the spiciness comes out at first followed by some sweet, almost candy-like citrus flavors. the first things I picked up in the nose mix in the backround in the taste. a slight floral quality and the belgian yeast comes out in the finish. the great thing is the 10% is no where to be found, a very smooth drinking beer.

M/D- the mouthfeel seems spot on for a BSPA, an ample amount of carbonation and medium to light in body. possibly even a bit dry in the finish, which I usually associate with belgian pales. this beer is goes down very easy for a 10% beer. I took down the bomber with ease, minus a few sips donated to some curious people.

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Collaborative Evil 2009 from Flossmoor Station Restaurant & Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 53 ratings.