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.357 Imperial Pilsner - Flossmoor Station Restaurant & Brewery

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.357 Imperial Pilsner.357 Imperial Pilsner

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BA SCORE
76
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51 Ratings
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Ratings: 51
Reviews: 33
rAvg: 3.27
pDev: 19.88%
Wants: 1
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Flossmoor Station Restaurant & Brewery visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Pilsner |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

"Go ahead. Make our day. Open up this bottle of .357 and enjoy this beer with THREE different malts, FIVE hop varieties (of course we used Magnum), and lagered SEVEN weeks. Ride off into the sunset with this in your holster!"

(Beer added by: Kegatron on 04-29-2010)
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Huhzubendah

District of Columbia

3.15/5  rDev -3.7%

Bottle shared by Lunch. Thanks Paul!

The beer appears golden yellow with a small, white head that leaves just a bit of lacing on the glass.

The aroma brings a heavy serving of hops with butterscotch. This smells much more like a barleywine than any kind of pilsner, imperial or otherwise.

The flavor brings a lot of booze, with a huge hop presence. Ugh! Not for the faint of heart. The taste is long lasting, with prominent sweetness and hops soaked in alcohol.

The feel is medium to full bodied with light carbonation.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

05-28-2011 00:57:55 | More by Huhzubendah
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drabmuh

Maryland

3.3/5  rDev +0.9%

Bottle shared by someone at a recent tasting. This was an odd beer. It was dark amber with nearly no head low carbonation no lacing.

Aroma is like a big barleywine, a sweet aromatic malt aroma.

Beer is thick and heavy. Strong almost liquor like alcoholic bite. Not my favorite. Hard to drink not even close flossmoor.

05-27-2011 15:31:39 | More by drabmuh
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mdfb79

New York

3.68/5  rDev +12.5%

Goddamn beer was provided by Lunch; thanks Paul.

a - Pours a murky golden color with one inch of white head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smells of caramel, toffee, bready malts, and light sweet fruit. I like the taste but I don't know how this is a pilsner. Smell really reminds me of a barleywine, as it did other people who had it.

t - Taste follows the nose; lots of caramel, sweet fruit, and bready malts. A little bit of alcohol but not much for 12% ABV. Again, quite barleywineish.

m - Medium body and low carbonation.

o - This was no goddamn pilsner; seemed much more like a barleywine to me and everyone else tasting it with me. Either way I enjoyed it and would like to try another bottle to see if it tasted similiar.

05-26-2011 03:04:13 | More by mdfb79
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Thorpe429

Illinois

3.55/5  rDev +8.6%

Thanks to Paul [insert inappropriate word here] Lunch for bringing this brew to the FW tasting. Rocked this one out in a Captain Lawrence tulip. Should have pulled out my Flossmoor pint glass just to irk Paul after he showed me up by bringing a FW mini-snifter and coaster.

Pours a clear golden color with an average white head that diminished pretty quickly, leaving behind sparse spotty lacing. The nose had an average amount of bread and straw plus some light floral and herbal hops. The flavor was no different, hitting some grains and then dosing on the hops. 12%? No way. Mouthfeel gets a bump for those heroics. Pretty decent, though fairly plain. Medium body with a bitter, dry finish.

05-25-2011 01:06:35 | More by Thorpe429
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glid02

Georgia

3.95/5  rDev +20.8%

Bottle shared by Dan - thanks!

Pours a very hazy golden color with a half-finger white head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of moderately sweet pilsner malts with good amounts of orange peel and floral aromas. Also present are hints of indistinct spiciness.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Smooth pilsner malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by sugar-dusted citrus hops. Also present are hints of earthy hops and breadiness underlying everything. Faint hints of grassiness come into play midway through the sip, fading out into a mildly bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a heavy thickness with grainy carbonation.

Drinkability is good. I finished my glass without any problems and could have another.

Overall I enjoyed this beer and it's aged nicely for a style that doesn't always do so. Worth a shot.

04-03-2011 00:23:22 | More by glid02
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LilBeerDoctor

New York

2.33/5  rDev -28.7%

Reviewed on 5/21/2010. Bottle thanks to FlssmrBrewAlum. Pours a clear light orange with a small white head. Aroma of sweet malt, light fruits, and a touch of glue (yes, glue). Flavor of sweet malt, a little booze, and more of that odd glue. Hmm, not really a fan of this one. The flavor was off and the palate was way too heavy. Yuck.

12-23-2010 20:53:33 | More by LilBeerDoctor
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BuckeyeNation

Iowa

4.03/5  rDev +23.2%

Sun-splashed pumpkin orange with honey hued highlights and an attractive crown of ivory colored cream. Persistence is impressive and lace deposition is pretty extensive. There must be generous hop resins in (and on) the glass.

The aroma is wall-to-wall Euro hops, which is what the American Imperial Pilsner style should be all about. The malt (mostly pale-pilsner) don't add much at all and alcohol is essentially absent. This might be high-caliber beer.

.357 Imperial Pilsner is... pretty good beer. Time and warming will determine if it's solidly good beer or not. It doesn't taste like malt liquor, which is how some underhopped IPs can come across. Then again, it doesn't have the lupulin explosiveness of the best of style.

Flavors include sugar cookies, sweetened cereal grains, assorted golden orchard fruits, and herbal-grassy-spicy hops of a European bent. Saaz must be one of the five, along with Magnum. At this point in its life (estimated 5 months), this big brew is both malty sweet and hoppy bitter in equal measure. Hop flavor is becoming bolder at the mid-bomber point.

Ridiculous amounts of clingy lace give me no choice but to bump the appearance score. The mouthfeel is crushed velvety plush (due to all those malt sugars) and has a minor raspiness from the alpha acids. Good contrast and more than pleasant all around.

Flossmoor Station .357 Imperial Pilsner is not the be-all-and-end-all version of the style (Sam Adams Hallertau Imperial Pilsner), but it's surprisingly delicious and drinkable if you're a fan of American-style big beer and Old World hops.

09-23-2010 12:03:27 | More by BuckeyeNation
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CrellMoset

Virginia

3.5/5  rDev +7%

Red wax topped 22 oz. bottle courtesy of a generous BA whose name has been lost to the ages and a crash of my laptop which contained my list of trading partners. Alas, thanks, whoever you are! Poured in to a snifter and split w/ afausser.

Appearance: A great pour yields a gorgeous beer, a bright, deeply-hued orange copper body, hazed only slightly, as if they attempted to filter it but just couldn't get everything out. The beer is initially topped by what appears to be a long-lasting finger or so of nearly pure snow white head, but the retention isn't quite what I expected it to be (the appearance's only knock), and it fades to a foamy collar and a thin and uniform sheen of dusting in a minute or two. The lacing, however, is fantastic - sheets at first, and ultimately tendrils and eruptions or sticky, clingy white foam makes for a fantastic display.

Aroma: Very mellow, and perhaps this beer's worst attribute. At first, I got nearly nothing out of the nose. As it warmed, a few uncomfortable vinegary notes and a few chemical overtones emerged, and - though there are a few hints of lightly roasted malts here - it's mostly forgettable.

Taste: A harsh, moderately chemical bitterness runs roughshod ... but only on the latter half of the sip. The first half is dominated by sweet, syrupy malts, likely a necessary addition to counteract all the alcohol and hops tossed in to the kettle on this one (though I cringe to think of the OG of this one, given both how sweet it is and how high in abv% it is). Hop notes are a little less scarce, at least in terms of variety - a strong grassy note is pretty evident, as are a few fruity overtones, but I imagine the latter is mainly fruit esters, not hop oils. Still, not bad.

Mouthfeel: Thick and fairly syrupy, but with a surprising amount of carbonation. Smooth and mild, with a slight bite

Drinkability: It's possible they pushed this one a little too far. A 12.0% double pilsner? Dangerous territory. This one manages to hit a lot of the highlights but falls definitely short in a few critical places. Specifically, I don't think anything that tastes like a pilsner should be able to sustain a 12% abv - you're not going to be able to contain all the funky esters that emerge at those levels. This beer's also just a tad too sweet, though I understand and appreciate what that does to cover certain other potentially undesirable off flavors. On the whole it's a mixed bag, and one I liked a little more than I anticipated I may from reading the reviews.

08-13-2010 01:11:12 | More by CrellMoset
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womencantsail

California

3.05/5  rDev -6.7%

Bottle shared by the ever "generous" t0rin0 (thanks for the tick, Bobby). Does Flossmoor have a wax fetish? Seems like they wax every single beer that they bottle.

A: The pour is a clear golden yellow/straw color with a somewhat short lived white head.

S: Nose is plenty sweet, to the point of being sugary, in fact. A decent floral and citrusy hop aroma that gives some lemon and orange notes.

T: I suppose the imperial portion only referred to the alcohol/sugar content and not the hops. This is like drinking alcoholic apple juice with a touch of citrus flavor.

M: The body is somewhat heavy for a pilsner (even if it is imperialized). Medium in terms of carbonation.

D: Too sweet for my tastes. I like a good crisp pilsner, and this did not fit the bill. Imperial Pils seems like a really hard style to pull off, because I've only had one or two good ones.

08-09-2010 02:08:51 | More by womencantsail
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gford217

Georgia

3.4/5  rDev +4%

Bottle thanks to FlssmrBrewAlum.

Pours a bright clear golden with a small bubbly head that recedes very quickly to a small collar and leaves a tiny bit of lacing on the sides.

The aroma is sugary sweet with toasted caramel malts and a big floral hop presence. There is a spiciness to the nose and an alcohol burn.

The taste is even sweeter with sugary malts and thick resinous hops. The finish is hot with alcohol and prickly, very astringent actually.

The mouthfeel is syrupy sweet and heavy on the palate. Carbonation is low to moderate but nor enough to lighten the heft of the sweetness.

This isn't a bad beer but it's not very drinkable as the sweetness and alcohol are really over the top. I guess I shouldn't expect anything different from a 12% impy pilsner.

07-22-2010 01:58:34 | More by gford217
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rhoadsrage

Illinois

4.15/5  rDev +26.9%

(Served in a chalice)
A- This beer has a crystal clear orange body with a thick creamy light beige head and a bubbly gentle carbonation of tiny bubbles and a white lacing.
S- The green hop cologne is full and fragrant. There is a spicy pale malt note with a faint minty not to the hops.
T- Sweet malty pale with a soft fruity note that leads to a green pungent hop finish with a sweet cinnamon quality and a minty note. The bitter hop bite lingers after the finish.
M- The medium mouthfeel has a soft fizz note with a warm soft note of alcohol.
D- This is a good white barleywine, I know I made a new style up, or Belgian Strong Pale Ale not a Imp. Pilsner. The sweet malty flavors have a nice hop support but the hop bite is a bit to much. No real lager qualities but it doesn't need it. This should be a nice beer to age.

07-14-2010 13:54:32 | More by rhoadsrage
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ommegoose

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev +14.7%

Steep price on this one, so let's hope it's worth it.

Pours into a tulip, slightly hazy gold. Slightly foamy ring around the glass. Actually held a cap for a fairly long time even though the abv is so high. Last pour actually contained some sediment that clouded up the beer just a bit.

Citric aroma. Mainly lemon. Sugar. Some somewhat richer malt, like toffee or light caramel. Tropical fruit. Doesn't really recall a pilsner in the aroma, but it's pretty pleasing.

Lemony. Some crispness from hops, but mainly it's too syrupy for that. I was wondering how this would end up different than an IIPA, but the hop profile does seem pilsnery. It's just the malt that's super beefed up. Not sure why this needed to be 12% rather than just 8 or 9. I have a high tolerance for sweet beers, but I can see why some people would find this overbearing. Hop bitterness is low and found mainly in grassy, peppery notes. More hops would be good. Super malty beer. Was very clean at first, but starts to develop darker notes, like slightly toasty caramel. Starts to resemble a pale barleywine as it warms as it just can't maintain the crispness and bite that a good pilsner would have. I would not buy another bomber of this, but if I had a chance to have a 6 oz. glass or so I would give it another go.

The feel is good. Carbonation is a little too low. Could use more to offset the syrupy character. Certainly is viscous.

It's really hot, but that always stops being an issue after a few ounces. Not hard to drink a bomber over a long enough session, but it's a bit much for a Monday. It makes a good enough argument for being an imperial pilsner. Closest reference points are probably Southern Tier's Krampus and Farmer's Tan, and it's probably in the same league as those in terms of quality. All beers I was hoping for a lot more from. Obviously there are awesome eisbocks and doppelbocks out there, but I'm still waiting to be wowed by pale imperial lagers.

07-13-2010 04:52:00 | More by ommegoose
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radshoesbro

California

3.9/5  rDev +19.3%

First off, I have no idea why this doesn't have a better rating. I think it's pretty damn tasty!

Pours golden with big head and a lot of lace. It's a little cloudier than I want a pilsner to be.

Smells of floral hops with a sweetness imparted from the TWELVE PERCENT ABV!!! This is not a sessionable beer and you can tell it in the nose.
Tastes of pilsner malts, hops, and an astringency imparted from the alcohol. The astringency isn't over powering and there's a nice grapefruit characteristic that I really like.

Light bodied, but will kick your ass. Be careful with this one!

07-04-2010 23:13:16 | More by radshoesbro
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thetomG

Illinois

3.65/5  rDev +11.6%

Pours a typical golden color with a bit of foamy white head.

Aroma is primarily sweet - flavor matches up but it much more intense on the sweetness. Sticky on the palate but remarkably easy drinking considering the 12% abv.

Glad I was able to try this, and one of the better pilsners I've ever had, but not necessarily something I'd seek out again., Just a bit too overly sweet IMO...

06-12-2010 22:09:41 | More by thetomG
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woosterbill

Kentucky

3.1/5  rDev -5.2%

Waxed bomber into a mini-nonic. Shared at a tasting.

A: Clear, deep gold body with a thin white head. Decent retention and some light lace. Quite attractive for its massive strength.

S: Interesting. Hoppy at first in a (very) vaguely pilsnery way, with a huge - huge - dose of solventy alcohol. Super, super boozy.

T: Starts sweet and malty, then the booze takes over with huge astringency. Not horrible flavors here, but the booze really takes over.

M: To be fair, this one has a nice medium body with a solid amount of soft carbonation. Excellent, especially in such a big beer.

D: Pretty disappointing here. Even for a 12% beer, this one is just too boozy.

Notes: Thanks, Tony, for sharing this one. It wasn't quite the train wreck you thought it was going to be, but it definitely deserves its middling review average. They just went completely overboard making this one big, and forgot that there's more to brewing an imperial style than just upping the ABV into the stratosphere. The point of imperials is to provide more intense flavors, not just the biggest kick of alcohol. This is basically craft malt liquor.

Cheers!

06-08-2010 11:56:59 | More by woosterbill
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AleWatcher

Illinois

2.55/5  rDev -22%

In cracking this waxed bottle, I am surprised to see a spray of beer come forward like a whale's blowhole upon surfacing. No real volume of beer was lost, it was but a small mist.

This brew is dark golden with an almost brownish hue, like apple cider. The head was less than 2 fingers before it settled to a very thin cap of white bubbles-- some big and fluffy-- some small and tight. The lacing, however, is clinging to the side of my pint glass with great vengeance and furious anger.

The taste is hugely sweet. Just a slight hint of bitterness on the finish, but then it reverts to this saccharine sugar sweetness. It isn't quite cloying, but it is certainly on a train bound for that destination. Perhaps it's just too early into my glass to tell for sure. The claim is that 5 different hops were used-- but only 3 malts. I think only 3 malts were used, but in a much larger, inordinate proportion to the hops. This is all malt sweetness. Even the punch of the lagering yeast (lagered for 7 weeks!!) is lost in the sticky syrupy sweetness. The mouthfeel is pretty good, and at least for me, it is the only way to know the hops were really used. The oiliness does coat my teeth, but it leaves a lingering candied sugar flavor behind with it.

As for dinkability-- I'm not even through with my first glass and I'm getting a stomach ache. There is a big part of me that doesn't want to finish this bomber--- and that's a real shame. The malts remind me of a barleywine-- sweet caramel and a slight toffee flavor blend with the pilsener malt and possibly some Vienna malt to just stick the sweetness right in your face and hold it there.

As this warms I get some actual graininess and the mouthfeel begins to feel slightly chalky. The nose has never really come around. It started very weak, and has remained as such. I much prefer the Krampus by Southern Tier.

Overall-- this is average at best-- subpar in several categories by my count. This offering is not really typical of the brewery though, and I'll continue to drink their 1492 IPA and my wife will continue to drink their plethora of wheat beers (I think 4 different ones on tap when we were up there).

05-25-2010 01:55:09 | More by AleWatcher
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DmanGTR

Florida

2.58/5  rDev -21.1%

Had this on tap at the pre DLD party. From notes on 4/23/10

A - hazy golden with a short lived white head. Left a thin ring of bubbles. Not very pilsnerish by any means. 2.5

S - Lots of cereal graininess (think Kix or Corn Flakes), honey, and decent citrus and bitterness from the hops. Huge whiff of booze too. 3.0

T - Way too sweet, way too hot, none of the earthy, pils-like hoppiness and light malt that I'm looking for in a pilsner/imperial pilsner. 2.0

M - Moderate, touch of cloyingness, decent carbonation. Pretty smooth but hot finish. 3.5

D - Alright I suppose. Not a fan. 3.0

05-24-2010 17:58:54 | More by DmanGTR
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nrbw23

Ohio

2.48/5  rDev -24.2%

A- Pours a slightly hazy yellow color with a thin white head. Head has little retention and leaves behind some lacing.

S- Smells of grains, malts, a bit of dirty hops and quite a bit of alcohol here.

T- Quite a bit of an alcohol burn here on this one that dominants most of the flavor. Behind this there are a bit of bready malts and citrus hops. Seems like there is no balance to this one at all.

M- Medium in body and carbonation.

D- Way too hot for me and nothing seemed to go together. I finished this one but didn't really enjoy this one.

05-21-2010 23:30:34 | More by nrbw23
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AgentZero

Illinois

2.58/5  rDev -21.1%

A - Golden color with a small white head, a little bit of lacing, not bad looking for the style.

S - Lot of malts here, not caramelly, but a sweet, grainy malt. A bit yeasty, surprising amount of alcohol.

T - This beer drinks way too hot for me, actually felt a burn on a pilsner, not what I wanted, even if it is imperial. Very sugary, also not working for me. Decent amount of grain, but the alcohol and sweetness kills it for me.

M - Moderately carbonated, but I think it's too thick, sticky, and slick for the style, or if nothing else, just not to my liking.

D - Too much alcohol burn, too sweet, very poor drinkability. Would not drink this beer again.

05-21-2010 02:33:48 | More by AgentZero
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paco1029384756

Illinois

4.22/5  rDev +29.1%

Pours a golden color with two fingers of thick sticky white head with nice retention time.

Scent of sweet malts, bread, spicy, bitter hops, and a hint of earth. The alcohol is nearly unnoticeable in this fantastic scent.

Taste of sweet, mild malt, dry, spicy earth, and some mild alcohol. Finishes dry with a hint of alcohol and grain. This is an unexpectedly great Imperial Pilsner, but again, I doubt age will be kind to this one.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and oily with fair carbonation, I prefer the mouthfeel of this beer on tap.

With the smoother mouthfeel, this one is easier to drink, which may not be the best considering the strength.

05-17-2010 00:38:45 | More by paco1029384756
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faernt

Illinois

4.3/5  rDev +31.5%

What a session beer this is ! I had it with a Reuben sandwich. It really paired well. Flossmoor Station does well with food. The people I was with remarked on the hoppiness of this one. I took the malt smells, but must admit to enjoying the hops. Big beer does pair with food. The blah blah of drinking it alone to savor it is crap. Eat and drink...everything gets along with something. Why deny it?

05-11-2010 03:37:43 | More by faernt
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ThaBobfather

Ohio

4.22/5  rDev +29.1%

Pours solid golden with a light mist of white head.
Smell is malty and very flowery with a light sting of booze.
Taste is well layered starting with earthy hops then to a flash of malts and bite with an ending of hops.
Finish is dry with a flash of flowers and malt.
Drinks very well but the strong bite makes it tough.

05-05-2010 21:06:37 | More by ThaBobfather
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nickd717

California

3.13/5  rDev -4.3%

On tap at Flossmoor Station pre-DLD.

Pours a slightly hazy straw color with a one-finger white head and some lacing.

Decent aroma - very sweet pale malt and grain along with a nice complex hop profile.

Flavor falls a bit flat. It's a bit underattenuated with very sweet pale malt dominating. There are some grassy and citrusy hop notes, but overall the balance is just not really there.

Medium-bodied and sweet on the palate with average carbonation level. The hop kick is not as big as I'd like.

Overall, wow, the high ratings on this one really surprise me. I thought it blew somewhat hard. I really don't get the hype around Flossmoor. Besides Wooden Hell, nothing I've had from this place has impressed me much.

05-02-2010 20:22:36 | More by nickd717
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chaz01

Ohio

3.88/5  rDev +18.7%

Had this on draft at Flossmoor the night before Dark Lord Day. Served in Chalice goblet.

A: Gold color with a little cloudiness, nice head.

S: Bready, yeasty aroma with a little citrus tones a bit of alcohol.

T: What came to my mind as I sipped this beer was an orangey triple sec flavor. Lots of alcohol and booziness, some honey and maltiness sweetness.

M: Medium to full bodied, lots of warming alcohol notes provides a real belly warmer feeling. Beer finishes with more of the orangey triple sec flavors.

D: Intrigued, I bought a couple of these in bottles to take home. Very much a slow sipping beer, I can't imagine pairing it with a meal or having more than one.

05-01-2010 17:21:44 | More by chaz01
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jampics2

Ohio

2.8/5  rDev -14.4%

On tap @ Flossmoor pre DLD 2010.

I figured I needed a beer to drink with my sandwich and the Anno Unum was only pouring outside, so I'd give this one a whirl. Plus, if it was good, I could pick up some nice looking wax-dipped bottles with great labels to take home or crack at Dark Lord Day.

Well, I didn't end up buying any bottles because this beer was really just not that good.

Brought to me in an open mouthed glass, it was gold and cloudy. Looks nice, now for a whiff...

OK, this will work! Nice skunky hops, earthy and grassy. And lots of 'em. Pilsen malt hangs out in the background but puts out its signature smell, a touch of toast, and grain. I raise the glass, we toast our journey from Ohio, our arrival at such a cool brewery and I take a sip...

Oh hells noes. What a bummer. Cleanup on isle 357, someone spilled a shit-ton of sugar. This is so unbalanced from the sweetness, it's too bad because I thought I liked where this was going. Fruity sweetness and dank hops. That's about all. Not impressed - in fact, I had a tough time giving the second half away. It was also noticibly hot, which I guess you can't avoid with a 12% pils, but wow, this was a choke-down or give up.

Mouthfeel was average, no holes to poke there. The finish is a bit dirty, though. Couldn't finish the pint I bought. Dissapointing at best - maybe Pilsners shouldn't be 12% - for an excellent example of a proper imperial pils, check the Blvd/Orval collab. Between this and Dark Lord I now have diabetes. Still had a blast there for pre DLD, though.

04-29-2010 18:29:17 | More by jampics2
.357 Imperial Pilsner from Flossmoor Station Restaurant & Brewery
76 out of 100 based on 51 ratings.