Monteith's Doppelbock Winter Ale - Monteith's Brewing Co.

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Ratings: 39
Reviews: 29
rAvg: 3.62
pDev: 11.6%
Wants: 1
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
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Monteith's Brewing Co. visit their website
New Zealand (Aotearoa)

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

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Beer added by: Phyl21ca on 02-13-2008

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Ratings: 39 | Reviews: 29
Photo of Ant777uk
4.23/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

During 3 years of living in Australia, this was without the best beer that I discovered. In Melbourne it seemed to only really be available in the Autumn and Winter, which was perhaps due to the beer's name.

Not that many Australian's seemed to know about it, and it's stocks were generally quite low. I recall a number of times where I drank a few bottles and then had to choose something less exciting.

The colour is black with a mystic deepness, and it has a fresh, fruity, complex taste that is reminiscent of a dark Belgian abbey beer, yet originally different. There is a kind of dried apricotty taste infused with bitter mocha notes that forms a Christmassy overall experience that is smooth and easy to drink, yet highly complex.

This is completely superior to Monteiths other offerings, and is one of the best beers I have had.

Photo of Cs1987
4.15/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Apperance - Dark red, with 2 fingers of head that reduced.

Smell - Strong and malty. Difficult to distinguish from the odour of a stout.

Taste - Quite malty and sweet, with the grainy characteristics of a lager in the background.

Mouthfeel - Good all round.

Drinkability - Pretty easy drinking for the style.

Overall - My thoughts that this may be a dark ale rather than a doppelbock (whoever named this beer seems to have no idea) were pretty much gone when I noticed this is like a maltier, sweeter version of Weihenstephaner Tradition. This is a very good beer all round.

Photo of pagriley
4.13/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A bit confused between the Doppelbock and the winter ale - seems to be a duplicate entry. Either way, Monteith's website only lists one Doppelbock and the label is the same as the one I have so this is the 6% Doppelbock.

L - Great depth of mahogany color with a off white head that dissipated after a few minutes to leave good lacing
S - Malty with nice caramel and nutty roasted malt notes
T - Nice malts with hints of toasted nuts and caramel. Slightly more bitterness to finish than I expected, but not unpleasant (just a touch more than expected for style). Clean finish and a nice overall profile
M - soft full mouth feel. Carbonation is spot on

Overall a very nice beer - bloody good stuff and a good price compared to the other options I had in Australia ($18 a 6er, one of the cheaper things I had)

Photo of Finite
4.1/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Deep Crimson/brown with a rich taned hard, a thin layer of lacing visible.

Chocolate and dark malts, some charcoal and esters. Sun dried fruits.

A dark roasted barley tone hits first, bringing with it some additional bitterness. More dark fruits. Rasins and a slight spice.

A full bodied beer. A great mouthfeel, thickish and sticky, a warming alcohol kick is quite obvious in the chest despite the not extremely high ABV.

A great drinking beer especially in winter, I could sit down in front of a fire and knock a few of these down, now problem at all. I disagree with comments suggesting the alcohol should be better hidden. Its a winter ale and a doppelbock for crying out loud. A really top brew.

Photo of SmashPants
4.03/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: standard 330mL brown bottle with a simple but stylish label.

Appearance: poured into a tulip glass - transluscent dark brown with ruby highlights. A good, thick one-finger head hangs about for a good while with decent lacing.

Aroma: good aromas of sweet toffee and caramel malts, and some roasted coffee malts behind. A touch of spice also. Smells good.

Taste: a very smooth toffee and caramel with those roasted malts again. Just a good, solid and easy-drinking dark lager.

Aftertaste: the flavours linger for a time, which is nice. A touch of bitterness on the finish also.

Mouth feel: moderate in feel with a moderate carbonation that carries the flavour nicely. A very nice sessional beer.

Overall: this one was a big surprise for me - a real gem from Monteith's, who usually present average at best. The best part of this is the price, at only AU$55 for a case of 24 x 330mL. For a great dark beer that is a fantastic price - the only let down is the recent (to me at least) revelation that Monteith's have attempted to trademark the name 'doppelbock', even though it is a beer style, not their personally-devised name for their beer. To put that into perspective, they have already trademarked the 'name' (or rather, the international style) Radler and Saison, meaning no other NZ breweries can name their beer Radler or Saison, and no genuine internationals can import such a beer to NZ.Pretty poor stuff. Even though I live in Australia and not NZ, I'm not sure I'll buy Monteith's any more after finding out the above trademarking stuff, just on principle.

Photo of jazzyjeff13
4/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 330ml bottle with a BB of Feb 2012. Acquired from Harvey Nicks in Leeds.

Poured into a Delirium chalice. A dark ruby hue with plentiful carbonation. Yields a decent head of creamy light-tan foam that remains for a few minutes before reducing to a surface layer. Aroma of rich, fruity malt with notes of chocolate, brown sugar, dried fruit, caramel and booze.

Tastes of sweet, fruity malt with a dry finish. Notes of molasses, caramel, chocolate, dried fruit and yeast. A mild stewed hop bitterness. Mouthfeel is smooth, tingly and a little slick. Somewhat astringent. Aftertaste of sweet, fruity malt.

Nice - rich and sweet. Uncomplicated; the flavour is well-judged and satisfying. Perfect for winter drinking. Well worth trying.

Photo of Kulrak
3.97/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a very deep brown with very little head, just a ring around the sides to lace the glass. Smells of chocolate and raisins, very pleasant. The taste is very sweet, chocolatey and fruity, with enough bitterness to bite on the back end. Finishes sharp. Mouthfeel is heavy, a little scraping from the carbonation, not bad. Overall, it's a very flavorful bock and a tasty brew. I'll be getting more of it.

Photo of aBeeraWeek
3.93/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - A nice dense head. Heavy looking brew with dark colours and a slight red hue.

S - A lot of malt influence as you would hope from this style. Plenty of chocolate and toffee.

T - Toffe and chocolate is there again with a slight hint of sweet dry fruit. Medium level of bitterness gives it a nice balance.

M - A medium to heavy body, and although creamy, sticks in the mouth nicely holding in the aftertaste.

Photo of LittleCreature
3.92/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance - 3.5
Poured a finger of creamy beige head that quickly reduced to a thin layer. The body is a dark reddish brown with great clarity.

Smell - 4.0
A tempting aroma of rich, sweet malt. Very cake-like, especially as it warms. Slight banana and a little golden syrup too.

Taste - 4.0
A very interesting and pleasant taste. Very rich and malty in the start, moderately sweet with golden syrup flavour, slightly smoky. Low level of bitterness, but there is still a little grassy hop presence. Slightly buttery, plenty of coffee flavour and low on alcohol presence.

Mouthfeel - 3.5
Persistent fine carbonation, feels heavy, almost syrupy in the mouth.

Drinkability - 4.0
I wouldn't call it sessionable, but I could, and would drink more than one in a sitting.

OVERALL - 3.85
Doppelbock Winter Ale. Something seems a bit wrong here. If it is a doppelbock it is a lager, if it is an ale, it is well, an ale and therefore not a lager. Strange. In taste this is quite like a doppelbock, although not as high in alcohol as a true doppelbock. A very good beer, a great colder weather drink and truly phenomenal value at under $13 for a 6-pack.

Photo of Macca
3.83/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This pours light brown with some red tinges. A good beige head and good retention.

Sweet spice aromas. A bit fruit cake-ish. Some chocolate notes.

The malts come forward on the palate. Some coffee as well.

Heavy body too it.

A nice sipping beer. Nice for the colder months.

Photo of foles
3.8/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours jet black, with a good malt accentuated head if poured quickly. Tastes well carbonated. Classic bavarian character. Doesnt taste like a 6% beer! More like a rich dunkel but a more compressed taste profile. Heavy malty body, a fresh tasting quality beer. Maybe missing something from being a true bock

Enjoyable and ill pick it up again if I see it, or something else from this kiwi brewery perhaps.

Photo of xylophonica
3.8/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 330ml bottle into a tulip glass.

A - Dark with minimal head. Good lacing. True to the label there is a faint red hue.

S - Sweet bread with subtle dark fruit aromas.

T - Slightly sweet at first with just a hint of bitter aftertaste. Dark cacao flavours with a massive roasted malt kicker.

M - Not bad, solid feel with decent fizz. Not overly noteworthy though...

D - Nice winter ale. Probably not strong or thick enough to be a true doppelbock but a good attempt anyway.

Easily the best beer from New Zealand that I've ever had, but then I've only had two.. and the other was Steinlager, so really no competition then.

Photo of istarilord
3.76/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark nut brown with a thin, light brown head.

First taste the alcohol was fairly noticeable, even for 6.0%. Subsequent tastes not as much, but I'll chalk that up to desensitizing.

Strong maltiness & light frutiness (cherry?) characteristic of most doppelbocks.

Good mouthfeel, smooth with a good amount of carbonation.

Not too complex, but a decent flavor. Good for a New Zealand Doppelbock, left me wanting a German doppelbock.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.7/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a clear brown color ale with a large foamy head with good retention but no lacing. Aroma contains loads of caramel malt. Taste is also dominated by some caramel malt with some subtle notes of toffee but none of the banana or cloves notes usually contained in the style and that I usually appreciate. Medium creamy body with some good carbonation.

Photo of jarmby1711
3.7/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

promising to be fiery red in colour it actually delivers a mahagany hued brew with a small unretentive head.
Being somewhat watery and tinny in aroma the flavour does surprise..Initially reminiscent of Tooheys Old with some burnt grain offerings it smooths out to an egg custard sort of sweetness. It finishes quite soft and smooth but does remind you of its 6%ABV.
Obviously not designed as a big session beer it is quite enjoyable and worth the effort

Photo of TubaManJack
3.6/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

A full pint from draft before ordering a big steak. About half finished before the stone grilling is served. A limited release for Monteith's, during the NZ winter season, on draft and in six packs. The beer is a good 25% more expensive then the other in the Monteties sixer range.
Appearance- A deep amber brown body with crimson highlights. Good head retention and a full tan head. A high amount of carbonation.
Smell- A bit of chocolate and wheat. Nothing really comes through, seeing as the tap lines here at the Tap Room are as cold as frost on the windows.
Taste- A bit of chocolate, cinnamon, and a touch roasted malt. There is quite an interesting mix and surprising complexity from Montieth's. It unusually because you not expecting any degree of spices in the nose, but once the pint warms it was noticeably present.
Mouthfeel-High levels of carbonation, A medium body with the carbonation lightening it.
Drinkability- Interesting I wouldn't say it fits the standard billing of Doppelbock. It went well with my steak. The carbonation levels got in the way of the beer and it was more of a high gravity dark beer than anything else.

Photo of Lukie
3.6/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured out a dark brown, with some orange brown tints in the light. Little head with little lacing. Almost stout like in colour, but not as thick.

Lots of strong malt caramels, syrup and some chocolate. Almost similar burnt chocolate to a stout. Candyish.

Burnt chocolate, cocoa, with sweet caramel and syrup. Hints of hop citrus in the back palate, but barely there.

Light mouthfeel given it is a dopplebock. Nowhere near some of the great german ones around (Aventinus), but decent enough, and possibly the best beer from Monteiths. Quite drinkable, and scary if you didn't realise it was 6%

Photo of doktorhops
3.58/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Winter ale!? It's practically summer, those crazy kiwis! Well actually the summer ale from Monteith's will no doubt be out soon and I will be sad, why? I'll tell you why; I love Doppels! They're big Bavarian bear-hugs of a style, and I remember when I was in Munich apart from drinking excessive amounts of Weiss's that Doppelbock was my go to brew. Prost bitch!

Poured from a 330ml bottle into a Stein glass.

A: Deep ruby red body with some foamy 1cm bone-meal coloured head action.

S: The malt aroma in this beer has it's own gravity! It's a bold malty biscuit fragrance with toasted sesame (weird but thats what I'm smelling) and a mild chocolate note. No hops on the nose, but this is to be expected from a classic malt driven Doppel.

T: Very on the nose with the flavour department; big malt biscuit base with toasted sesame and mild chocolate. The finish is long and dry with an accompanied tang of alcohol and minimal bitterness. Much smoother than expected but the taste of alcohol is a little more than it should be.

M: Quite smooth bodied and with a fairly low carbonation than expected this brew goes down easy... deceptively.

D: Intriguing in a way, but bland in another. I know it goes against the style but some decent floral hops would really have lift this brew into another dimension. However as it is it's a decent but average affair here. Would I recommend it? Yeah it's alright value as it is... a good kiwi go at what I believe to be a challenging style to brew. Sweet as bro.

Food match: German/Kiwi food? Errr, Hangi with Spatzle... or maybe a nice Schweinshaxe with a side of roast Kumara and Taro. You decide.

Photo of soju6
3.55/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a dark cherry color with a small thick head that fades to bits of lacing.

S: Aroma of roasted malt, dark fruit with a bit of chocolate and trace of spice.

T: Taste of roasted malt dark fruit, with a bit of nuts, chocolate and coffee. Mild bitterness and a dry finish.

F: Fairly light body, smooth with a decent balance.

O: Could be a bit more robust. Not a flashy beer.

Photo of tbeckett
3.54/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from a shop in Melbourne. From notes.

A - Poured dark, dark red. One finger of off white head. Decent carbonation, bright. Spotty lace, no retention.

S - Really malty. Rum, raisin, dark fruit.

T - Sweet, toasty malt, some bread, mild dark fruit, tobacco.

M - Really carbonated, light to medium body, dry and roasty finish.

O/D - Too carbonated. Not bad. Decent and flavourful. Really nice maltiness for Autumn.

Photo of dgilks
3.53/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep reddish brown with a foamy tan head. The head dissipates fairly quickly to a thin film over the beer.

Aromas of chocolate, dark fruits and spices are present. A touch of solvent like alcohol is also there.

Roasty with a hint of chocolate. Some fruity, spicy yeast character is also here. Just a hint of alcohol.

A nice heavy mouthfeel with mild carbonation makes this a rich warming beer. Good.

This isn't a challenging beer. It has some decent flavours but lacks the complexities of a good doppelbock. The alcohol could be better hidden. Not bad by any means.

Photo of eric5bellies
3.38/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Drank from my De Struise tulip

A - Pours a dark brown colour with an off white
ivory coloured head that slowly reduces.

S - Sweet and peppery from the bottle. Much the same once poured.

T - Reasoanble amount of malt, some chocolate and roast.

M - This is quite watery and needs more body. The carbonation is a littel too much.

D - Not a bad drop but doesn't challenge any German versions

Photo of rjimlad
3.37/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A typical Monteith in that it is an interesting beer with great aspects and otherwise. I found the almost total blackness appealing and also its thick tan head. I got very little aroma except for the faintest fruitcake esters. Flavour was fruitcake, pumpernickel and roast beef. Maybe some slight cocoa on the back palate. Late bitterness gives a clean finish. Complexity is satisfying without being awe inspiring. I guess bocks are never sessionable so I think only one at a time for me. A good beer but not interesting enough to be great.

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.33/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Copper pour with a off-white persistent head.
Lots of sweet malt on the nose with some hints of oats. If it wasn't so faint it'd be quite good. Some chocolate and slight hops.
More sweet dark malt upon tasting, with caramel and treacle. Not much else though.
Too much carbonation and slightly watery.

Photo of juju7
3.31/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark brown with red, tawny edges. A nice big fluffy tan head that laced well. Not picking mc up on the nose. Some very soft chocolate notes and a touch of malt. Drinks pretty smooth. The chocolate comes to the fore and a little more bitterness than I expected. Finishes good. Alcohol noticeable but not at all unpleasant. Not a bad beer but pretty unremarkable, especially as dopplebock.

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Monteith's Doppelbock Winter Ale from Monteith's Brewing Co.
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