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Cuvee Freddy - Picobrouwerij Alvinne

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Reviews: 70
Hads: 245
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 8.23%
Wants: 12
Gots: 37 | FT: 2
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: ShadesOfGray on 07-15-2010

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Photo of facesnorth
3.01/5  rDev -24.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

Color is a dark red. Zero head, zero bubbles. No sound when I opened it. Totally flat, no carbonation. Taste is astringent vinegar with tart cherries and oak. Very disappointed by this one. Judging by other reviews I can see many others who had a similar experience. Someone suggested it was a bad bottling and the beer is not supposed to be this way. Borderline drain pour. Tastes like bad wine.

Bottle from Freebridge Wine & Spirits in Phillipsburg, NJ, purchased sometime around May 2013. (492 characters)

Photo of cnally
3.14/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Purchased randomly at random for a random review. You ever pick up a bottle without even looking at it? That's exactly what I did here. Awesome.

This pours a deep, opaque mahogany brown. Barely a head at all, which should be expected considering the alcohol content and the style. Wisps of light brown at the corners.

The aroma is deep, unique and crazy. The oak aging certainly plays front and center. As you handle that there is a sniff of the signature sour yeasts--and a little cherry, sherry--very much like a bourbon.

The experiment fails starting here. While the oak aging did a lot for the aroma, the flavor barely ticks with any of the woodsiness you would expect. Also, the actual hope of having a strongly flavored flanders really falls short. The vinegary, acidic flavor is so muted here it is truly disappointing. Further, there is little hint of the mild malts used. Pretty lackluster.

The mouthfeel is a little thin, even for this style. The carbonation is lower as it should be but still a little less. I assume it is from the excessive aging and the finishing, but it certainly seems thin and underwhelming.

Eh. Could wear it as a cologne (not really) but I guess I'll just drink and enjoy it (also not really). (1,233 characters)

Photo of smakawhat
3.4/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from the bottle into a tulip glass.

Dark oxidized purple color out of the bottle, hits nearly black but more of a dark inky purple color. Tan head which makes about two fingers but doesn't last, with some nice rising thin tan colored accented carbonation on the sides to populate a thin collar. Collar does eventually vanish while drinking quite quickly.

Nose is mildly sweet smelling but with a tinge of soft sourness and real nice juicy hints of plum and grape. Wet like raisin sensing a bit but not much oak character going on here.

Noticeably tart, but also incredibly wet bodied. Strange crazy finish with a sharp wine must sourness of cheap grapes. Very light bodied with a salty tinge and highly seltzery fizz carbonation. Aftertaste is nearly non existent with lots drying tannic qualities which don't help the palate. Some of the fruit character hinted on the nose particularly of plum and grape does come out but feels spoiled.

Always wanted to give this one a shot, and really love Flanders beers but even this one from the area really does not do it for me. (1,080 characters)

Photo of brianmandell
3.45/5  rDev -14%

Pours a dark reddish-brown with quickly reducing head.

Smells of sweet and tart cherries, concord grape juice, chocolate, and oak

Tastes sweet and jammy up front with sour and sweet Welch's grape. The dark malt adds a chocolatey sweetness too. Some acetic acid burns the throat. A strange aftertaste as the malts mix with astringent oak tannins. The sweetness never quite dries out in the finish but the astringency remains. Fairly sour.

Silky medium body but under-carbonated.

Interesting beer. I like the dark ale component and the sweetness can work as a dessert beer. Otherwise, the sweetness, chemical fruitiness, acetic acid, astringent bitterness and lack of carbonation make this one I will avoid in the future. (723 characters)

Photo of mrfrancis
3.45/5  rDev -14%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a deep purple with a thin wisp of khaki mousse. Very still in the glass with few traces of carbonation.

S: Intense and woody on the nose with aromas of balsamic vinegar, woody spice, clotted cream, cider apples, and black cherries particularly dominant.

T: Notes of salty brine, oak, clotted cream, black cherry, pomegranate, cider apples, black currants, and balsamic vinegar wash across the palate. The finish is puckering with vinegar and dark fruit flavors.

M: Medium to full bodied, yet thin, oily, and slick. Feels much lighter than it really is. The alcohol is extremely well hidden.

O: This is a decent enough Flemish brown, but I would have liked to see an even more intense, assertive flavor profile and a bit more chewiness in the mouth. Though it's a little too slick in my opinion, this is an above-average take on the style. (851 characters)

Photo of Mongrel
3.47/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Well this is an odd one. It manages to be simultaneously both watery and somewhat harsh. Like really watered down Tussin, but with plentiful tobacco/leather/tannic notes and only mild sourness. There's also faint vanilla from the barrel.

Looks and smells really nice, but unfortunately the taste just doesn't deliver. Again, strangely watery and bitter. (354 characters)

Photo of Hopswagger
3.58/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

P: Pours a dark brown cola body with dark khaki head that fizzles to a thin cap. Silky micro bubble lacing sloshes on the edge.

S: Cardboard, cedar chips, horseradish, insulation foam, dandelion weeds, faint paint fumes and potpourri. Natural and musty funk aroma not much tartness.

T/M: Dark figs and dark cherry tartness. Naturally dirty flavors play off the wood and acidic fruits. All natural fruit rollup, and bitter sweet chocolate lurks in the distance. Good prickly semi syrupy body and finishes dry with lingering apple cider vinegar.

O: Overall a well crafted brew. The natural mustiness was welcoming but I think it may have overpowered the base concoction. The acidity and definitely the tartness was muted and the flavors were not masterfully blended. Good but not in the top five. (800 characters)

Photo of fourstringer
3.61/5  rDev -10%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a big bottle into stemless wine glasses x 2 with a moderate hand. Top popped with vigor - excellent. No date on the bottle, but this has been in the cellar for probably 3-6 months.

A: Wow, this is almost black. Dark, dark red. Huge rocky caramel-colored head, about 3 fingers worth. Impressive. Fairly large chunks of sediment - I think I was a bit aggressive with the pour. Looks like pieces of the barrel, actually.

S: Sourness, stone fruit, cherry. Some sweetness. Smells like a flemish. Pretty pumped.

T: Hmmm. Immediately tart, slightly akin to cherry juice, which I'm enjoying; but there is an abrupt transition to a barrel-aged, oaky, round, sweetness with bourbon overtones. Mostly sweet on the finish with a bit of unexpected bitterness and alcohol burn. Very late presence of chocolate. I'm reading back over that description and it sounds interesting, but don't think it's working well. The sour element is very transient and essentially disappears. Ends up being a bit cloying, to be frank.

M: Moderate carbonation. The body is a bit thin for the taste profile. It's okay - I don't think it adds to the beer, but doesn't really detract, either.

O: This ended up being a bit peculiar. I'm missing the sour/tart element that I really enjoy in both Flemish Red and Oud Bruin styles. Starts off very nicely, but is overwhelmed by the barrel characteristics and finishes like a darker, sweeter style. That being said, I don't recall any beer I've had in recent memory with similar qualities. Certainly interesting. I could see people really liking this - Try it for yourself!

Prost! (1,612 characters)

Photo of MbpBugeye
3.72/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This is a new one to me, I've never heard of the brewery before. But with this bottle they are high in the running for worst label ever. This was an extra from finewinemike.

CFR Jan 2014 Lot: 472 stamped on the cap.

Appearance
The head is slow to form and quick to disperse. It doesn't seem to hold very much carbonation. The beer is a really dark cola color, it's deepness is intriguing.

Aroma
This is a very inviting aroma. Tartness is sharp, but not frightening. This stuff is loaded with black cherry goodness. Swirling kicks up plenty of dark, balsamic vinegar and the sweet vanilla notes of oak. There is a hidden shot of basement, moldy funk hidden within all of the rich, fruity aromas.

Taste
The taste doesn't seem as well seated and focused as the aroma. There is a lot of extreme tannic acidity that gets close to being medicinal or chemical. Cherry skins and pits are there providing tartness, sweetness and more tannins at once. The oak comes in very strong shortly after the palate adjusts to the tannins. Lots of fresh, damp, pulpy wood with a little bit of vanilla interwoven.

Mouthfeel
Very low carbonation, but it doesn't really hurt this beer too much. It seems to work with the dryness and mild tartness of this stuff.

Overall
Smells really good, but the flavor is a bit sloppy; it starts to be all-over-the-place. This is still a good surprise since this is certainly a beer I'd pass on if I saw it on shelves; actually I'd probably never notice it on shelves. (1,492 characters)

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

a curious brew here, pouring a really dark red, almost brown color, with a minimal white head. oddly dark for the style. the nose is lightly sour, but more vinegar than anything. tart cherries and yeasty must also resonate. the flavor is sugary and fruity, with the cherry becoming sort of artificial. the funk to this is really nice. its only minimally sour, and the darker malts give it some sweetness that is a really nice contrast. the alcohol is very well hidden, and if it wasn't so acidic, this would be relatively drinkable. I like the bigger malt bill, but this beer needs a lot more carbonation to keep up with it. it comes across thin and watery as a result of inferior bubbles. overall not a beer I will race to drink again, but an intriguing take on a style that really doesn't make it to America in much variety. I appreciate the effort, and am sure this is much better live at the source. thanks also to claystation for bringing this one over. (958 characters)

Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.76/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Bottle purchased at Oliver's in Albany, NY.

This one pours a slightly fizzy, moderately dark brown, with a very small head, and no lacing.

Smells like red wine, vinegar, cherries, oak, and lactic acid.

This is a little bit too vinegary to be entirely enjoyable for me. The vinegar dominates, with sour cherries, some sweet malt, and lactic acid. There's a little bit of oak, but not much barrel.

This is medium bodied, with a very tart and biting mouthfeel.

This was certainly interesting but had a few flaws. (514 characters)

Photo of jrenihan
3.76/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

No date on bottle.

Not much of a sound when the bottle opened- either this beer is just not very carbonated or it has been lost. The beer is very dark brown and there is no head whatsoever.

Smell contains lots of oak and a tart, port-like dark fruit smell.

Taste is quite tart, lots of oak. Resembles balsamic vinegar, with the addition of a vinous, winey flavour. Aftertaste is fairly sour and not particularly pleasant.

Medium bodied, totally flat. Quite astringent. Unfortunate.

Reading other reviews, it is clear both that (a) this beer is not meant to be as flat as it is, and (b) this is a not uncommon problem with this beer. In the state that I got it, it is not particuarly good, with the body really being a problem. Properly bottled, this might be much better. (780 characters)

Photo of Jonada
3.77/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.75

11.2 oz bottle served in a tulip glass. No freshness date

Appearance: Pours a deep dark reddish brown color. Pours almost completely still with no head. Body is nearly opaque.

Smell: Red wine, vinegar, black licorice, soy sauce, chocolate, tobacco, blackberry. Its a very interesting aroma

Taste: Sour grapes, prunes, soy sauce, oak, red wine tannins, slight roasted malt and chocolate. Medium vinegar acidity from start to finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied. Slick, oily mouthfeel. It has about as little carbonation as possible without being completely flat.

Overall: One of the more interesting beers I've ever had. The lack of carbonation hurt this one big time in my opinion. Still a very good brew, but if carbonated, could have been excellent. (755 characters)

Photo of woosterbill
3.79/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Chris for sharing this at a tasting. Poured into a Weyerbacher tulip.

A: Muddy brown body with some frothy tan bubbles. Forgettable.

S: Clear, sharp acetic acid, cherry, and light malty sweetness. Quite nice, if not as complex as it could be.

T: Red wine vinegar, vanilla, bready malt, and a sweet, sticky finish. Good sweet + sour balance.

M: Sticky medium body with light carbonation. Not bad, but not quite good either.

D: A little too sticky and sweet to be really drinkable; where's the barrel?

Notes: While this was quite an enjoyable beer, it kind of got lost in the haze of other awesome brews at the tasting. I'm entering this review less than a week later, and I really can't remember anything beyond what I've written in my notes. This was a decent, but totally forgettable, Oud Bruin. I'm really glad I got to try it, of course, and I look forward to sampling more from what seems to be an innovative, interesting brewery.

Cheers! (959 characters)

Photo of claspada
3.8/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown with amber hues, little to no head; subtle lacing. Pretty darn still almost like wine.

Aromas of sourness, oak, vinegar, earth and tobacco. No hop of yeast aromas.

The tastes begin with tons of red vinous grapes followed by oak, earthiness, tart cherry, vinegar and a light stone fruitiness in the back end. No hops or yeast flavors.

Mouthfeel is super thin and light, like a light-to-medium bodied pinot noir or granache wine. Low carbonation; pretty much still.

Overall this was a very interesting beer and the most wine influenced beer I have ever sampled. I wish I got more of the base beer here but I enjoyed how the sour beer flavors worked with the wine barrel aging. Would have liked more body/carbonation but the wine mouthfeel is appropriate I guess for a red vinous tasting beer. (813 characters)

Photo of ShadesOfGray
3.82/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750ml bottle into a snifter glass. Pours a medium brown, but fills the glass a dark muddy brown...no light passing through, and a small head dissipates quickly leaving pretty clean side walls...no real lacing to speak of.

Aroma is very appealing. Smells like a great sour, but doesn't look like one...so definitely confusing! Small notes of coffee and wood. Tart/funk is pretty strong, but not vinegary like I expect from a flemish.

Flavor is really strange. Not bad at all, infact...it's definitely tasty! With that said, not great either. Theres a solid sour taste, which was expected from the aroma, but the coffee is combatting the flavor adding a strange characteristic. Medium body, medium carbonation...booze isn't really noticed. An interesting and tasty beer...grab a bottle if you see it just to taste it for yourself! (848 characters)

Photo of stevoj
3.84/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle from Boise Coop. I was hoping the oak barrel aging would be more noticeable, but can't really detect any traces, other than the sour palate being slightly subdued. Dark brown pour with minimal head. Aroma and taste are pure sour, pit fruit sweetness. Taste is more raisins, plums, apricots and a hint of vinegar tartness. Mild finish (340 characters)

Photo of erickehoe
3.84/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: No date on the bottle. Cap didn't pop off with much vigor. I was surprised to see some sediment around the top of the bottle. I poured it hard but there was only a slight lacing to speak of. The swirls of the foam I haven't seen on another beer before; they sort of appear from under the surface and slowly form into a cohesive head. I think it has something to do with the sediment.

S: Tart cherries and darkness. Sour and fruity.

T: That potent yeast strain kicks in, followed by some tart, sweet fruit, and ending with a bit of bitter sourness reminiscent of lemon juice and red wine. The dark tartness oversees the entire taste.

M: Nothing amazing but appropriate to the beer. Thin. Wine-like.

Overall I do like this beer. I'm wondering if it's a little past its prime, given the sediment around the top of the bottle rather than on the bottom, as well as the lack of "oomph" the cap had once I popped it. The good thing about this style, though: it can be past its prime and still quite tasty and interesting. (1,021 characters)

Photo of GuinnessAtRogerWilco
3.86/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle poured into a Duvel tulip glass.

AP: No head on this at all, just some off white/cream coloured bubbles hugging the glass. Darker in colour than I anticipated, like a deep mahogany brown, though it has some coppery and reddish hues when held up to the light.
AR: Apple cider vinegar, wet sourdough German pretzels, pear, grape skins, tart green apples, Belgian yeast funk and damp musty oak. Smells like it should be tasty.
T: Bloody hell, this is one sour SOB. Vinegar smacks your tongue and puckers your mouth. Haven't had one quite this sour in a while or maybe ever. Once I get past the initial shock of the strong vinegar I get the fruits I scented in the nose: grape skins (foremost), tart green apples and pear. The funky Belgian yeast comes into play on the back end with that dank oakiness as well. I need another sip or two to sort this out proper. A decent amount of juicy fruits on the aftertaste that are fighting with the sour vinegar for dominance. I love me some sours, but this one is slightly off balance.
M: Very acidic, low carbonation, seems like it does more than cleanse the palate...sort of like how Lava soap does a bit more than cleanse your hands. I do get a nice vinous and slightly viscous feel from the barrel and the fruits.
OV: It is tasty, especially on the finish, but a bit out of balance for my liking. Just a tad too sour/tart to receive a higher rating. Still totally drinkable, just not outstanding. (1,452 characters)

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.87/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

For a Flanders old brown, this is decent since it scratches on the surface of what the style could be. But unfortunately, there is really no longevity to the ride, at least not as much as I would think is appropriate. Sure, it hits on the chracteristics of the style very well, but it's gone before you know it and just too thin overall. Don't get me wrong, I like this beer, and it's nice. But if only it could have been just a little bit more, we'd be looking at an amazing beer. (481 characters)

Photo of cbutova
3.89/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Thanks for sharing last night Dan. Fully reviewed at time of sampling.

Alvinne Cuvee Freddy Zymatore 2012 Batch 2

A- Poured from the 750ml to seven pint glasses for Sours and Saisons III 2014 with a pitch black body. Some brown around the edges upon further inspection. A creamy cap forms to about a finger with a light tan hue. Head retention is pretty low as the head dies to almost nothing after some time. Lacing is very sparse.

S- Vinous tart grapes off the top with that Sauvingnon and Zinfandel feel. A decent amount of roasty malts from the blended in stout. Lactic tartness leads me on to some sourness. Slight Belgian yeast spice and raisins.

T- Wine and Sour Ale base are the most prevalent elements of the flavor with a nice wine grape, lactic tart, oak tannin and apple presence. Belgian yeast spice comes out some more here with chocolate roast malts, lemons and raisins.

MF- Body consistency is somewhere between light and moderately thick. Texture is fizzy with a slight foamy and silky feel. Carbonation at a moderate level as tartness coats the palate.

Lots of nice flavors bouncing off of each other. The wine is probably most prevalent overall for me but the cocoa roast malts, sour ale and Belgian yeast balance out nicely to make a interesting, unique brew. (1,285 characters)

Photo of Chico1985
3.89/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Thanks to Dan for sharing this at a sour-themed tasting. 2012 bottle.

A - Dark red pour with a beige head, so-so retention as a thick ring, leaves spots of lace.

S - Red wine grapes are the most prevalent, good amount of oak and general dark fruit (cherries, raisins) as well. Nice tartness and pretty decent strength overall.

T - A bit more going on here than the scent. Red wine still leads the way, a bit of the Podge showing through now with chocolate and roasty tones, blends nicely with the Flanders flavors. Medium tartness, light vinegar, some lactic sourness, oak, vanilla, raisins, cherry coke.

M - Somewhat lacking in the body, could be smoother. Some booze showing through, carbonation is fine, average drinkability.

O - Nice interesting flanders. The red wine barrel is nice, the stout notes are on the fainter end but also add a nice touch. (859 characters)

Photo of avalon07
3.92/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a tulip glass. Had a dark brown color and thick texture. There was a small amount of foamy head that quickly dissipated. Not a whole lot of lacing.

S: A sweet, fruity aroma of cherries, malt, and an almost vinous quality.

T: Tasted of malt, cherries, a woody component, yeast, and that vinous element. Fairly sour and generally well made flavor. Very fruity.

M: This is a beer in need of some carbonation (surprising considering Belgians are usually well-carbonated. Smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

D: In spite of some rough spots, this is a drinkable beer. (586 characters)

Photo of Immortale25
3.94/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Funky Buddha Brewery snifter. Bottlecap says JUN2018

A- Pours a mostly opaque black color with a 1/2 inch dark tan head that retains a bit before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and a patch of wispy surface foam. Not-so-resilient lacing leaves a thin ring behind.

S- Powerful aroma of dark fruit, mainly black cherry, oak and lactic acid. Very musty. There's a unique medicinal aroma mixed in with everything that I'm not familiar with. Could be the yeast combined with the oak.

T- The flavor is much more controlled with a good balance of dark fruit, tartness and a bit of oak. Tastes like a Flanders Red on steroids which I guess is what a Flanders Oud Bruin is supposed to be. There's a decent amount of malt to balance but the sourness really catches up to you after a while

M- Very dry with a heavy pucker. Medium-low carbonation with a full body.

O- Intensely sour, but luckily there's enough fruit and malt to keep it within the bounds of drinkability. (997 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.95/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Rustico in Alexandria. Served in a mini-snifter.

Pour is a very dark brown with minimal head, though there is a thin collar throughout, and some spots form after a good swirl. The nose brings some slight roast along with a good cherry presence, some lactic acid, and a moderate amount of oak. The flavor is fairly acidic with a good oak and tannin presence. The darker portion of the blend is noticeable with some roast. The finish is fairly sour, but also has some good roast. A bit of acetone, though only in the finish. Not more than is worth docking .5 points for. Overall, really solid. Glad to see this on tap two blocks from home. (648 characters)

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Cuvee Freddy from Picobrouwerij Alvinne
89 out of 100 based on 70 ratings.