Cuvee Freddy - Picobrouwerij Alvinne

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89
very good

238 Ratings
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Ratings: 238
Reviews: 69
rAvg: 4
pDev: 10.75%
Wants: 12
Gots: 31 | FT: 2
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: ShadesOfGray on 07-15-2010

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Ratings: 238 | Reviews: 69
Photo of fourstringer
3.61/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a big bottle into stemless wine glasses x 2 with a moderate hand. Top popped with vigor - excellent. No date on the bottle, but this has been in the cellar for probably 3-6 months.

A: Wow, this is almost black. Dark, dark red. Huge rocky caramel-colored head, about 3 fingers worth. Impressive. Fairly large chunks of sediment - I think I was a bit aggressive with the pour. Looks like pieces of the barrel, actually.

S: Sourness, stone fruit, cherry. Some sweetness. Smells like a flemish. Pretty pumped.

T: Hmmm. Immediately tart, slightly akin to cherry juice, which I'm enjoying; but there is an abrupt transition to a barrel-aged, oaky, round, sweetness with bourbon overtones. Mostly sweet on the finish with a bit of unexpected bitterness and alcohol burn. Very late presence of chocolate. I'm reading back over that description and it sounds interesting, but don't think it's working well. The sour element is very transient and essentially disappears. Ends up being a bit cloying, to be frank.

M: Moderate carbonation. The body is a bit thin for the taste profile. It's okay - I don't think it adds to the beer, but doesn't really detract, either.

O: This ended up being a bit peculiar. I'm missing the sour/tart element that I really enjoy in both Flemish Red and Oud Bruin styles. Starts off very nicely, but is overwhelmed by the barrel characteristics and finishes like a darker, sweeter style. That being said, I don't recall any beer I've had in recent memory with similar qualities. Certainly interesting. I could see people really liking this - Try it for yourself!

Prost!

Photo of shleepy
4.29/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Served from bottle (purchased at K&L in Redwood City) into Cantillon glass.

A: Super dark brown, with plenty of yeast sediment that settled at the bottom of the glass. Dark head that spurted out of the bottle... though maybe I should have kept it in the an upright position in a fridge for a day or two before opening.

S: Sour, barrely. Black currant notes, along with smoke and chocolate.

T: Tastes much like it smells. Pronounced chalky, smoky chocolate flavor, balanced by a high level of sourness for a beer this dark, and a general flandersy flavor profile. Very interesting flavor combination, to be sure, and one that works very well.

M: Very lively, bubbly mouthfeel. Very acidic.

O: In my opinion, this one is super tasty. I tried it on tap at a little event hosted by K&L at Gourmet Haus Staud, and then noticed that K&L had it in bottles. I can see how some people may be offended by the mix of flavors, or maybe they don't like sour and/or smoky beers, to begin with, but I really enjoy both of those flavors, and this beer really puts the two of them together in a great way.

Photo of GuinnessAtRogerWilco
3.86/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle poured into a Duvel tulip glass.

AP: No head on this at all, just some off white/cream coloured bubbles hugging the glass. Darker in colour than I anticipated, like a deep mahogany brown, though it has some coppery and reddish hues when held up to the light.
AR: Apple cider vinegar, wet sourdough German pretzels, pear, grape skins, tart green apples, Belgian yeast funk and damp musty oak. Smells like it should be tasty.
T: Bloody hell, this is one sour SOB. Vinegar smacks your tongue and puckers your mouth. Haven't had one quite this sour in a while or maybe ever. Once I get past the initial shock of the strong vinegar I get the fruits I scented in the nose: grape skins (foremost), tart green apples and pear. The funky Belgian yeast comes into play on the back end with that dank oakiness as well. I need another sip or two to sort this out proper. A decent amount of juicy fruits on the aftertaste that are fighting with the sour vinegar for dominance. I love me some sours, but this one is slightly off balance.
M: Very acidic, low carbonation, seems like it does more than cleanse the palate...sort of like how Lava soap does a bit more than cleanse your hands. I do get a nice vinous and slightly viscous feel from the barrel and the fruits.
OV: It is tasty, especially on the finish, but a bit out of balance for my liking. Just a tad too sour/tart to receive a higher rating. Still totally drinkable, just not outstanding.

Photo of clayrock81
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a brown body with minimal head and had a tart cherry aroma as well as some oakiness. Medium-bodied, smooth thanks to oak, slight sweetness on backend as well as some woodiness, dominant profile is tartness of the cherry and apple variety (mostly cherry). I like this beer as the sour/tartness is the dominant taste profile but by no means the only profile as there are some malts poking around in this beer.

Photo of facesnorth
3.01/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

Color is a dark red. Zero head, zero bubbles. No sound when I opened it. Totally flat, no carbonation. Taste is astringent vinegar with tart cherries and oak. Very disappointed by this one. Judging by other reviews I can see many others who had a similar experience. Someone suggested it was a bad bottling and the beer is not supposed to be this way. Borderline drain pour. Tastes like bad wine.

Bottle from Freebridge Wine & Spirits in Phillipsburg, NJ, purchased sometime around May 2013.

Photo of GuzzLah
4.15/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A - pours an opaque dark brown/black. No head. No lace. No bubbles.

S - acetic, red wine, oak, cherry, black currant, hint of barrel coconut.

T - mimics the aroma plus some mild chocolate malt. Drinks like a malty, barrel aged red wine. Tasty!

M - medium-full body for the style. Luxurious feel. Sweet and sour, but not extreme in either regard. Mouth watering. Low carbonation.

O - I'd like it better with some carbonation, but found it to be a very nice example of an Oud Bruin. Similar to Rodenbach Vintage. Better in some ways and not as good in others. A pleasure to drink!

Photo of LazFTW
4.62/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

I can honestly say I love this beer. It is one of the most unique beers one can experience. It pours a dark dark red which one might mistake for a stout in the right lighting. Cuvee Freddy has little to no carbonation which gives it an interesting mouthfeel. The taste is reminiscent of lambic, wine, and whiskey due to the oak barrels in which it was aged. Friends of mine who like even the most bland of beers were blown away by the flavor. Its a shame I cannot find it at any local liquor store and have to pay $12 a bottle at the Ginger Man bar here in town. I hope they never stop carrying it!

Photo of metter98
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle at Thirsty Monk, Asheville, NC

A: The beer is nearly jet black in color - traces of amber are visible near the edge of the glass when it is held up to the light. It poured with a thin ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: Moderately strong aromas of sour dark fruits are present in the nose.
T: The beer has very sour and tart flavors of dark fruits - black cherries seem to stand out in particular. Hints of chocolate and roasted malts are also noticeable.
M: It feels medium-bodied and very tart on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer tastes more like a sour and tart version of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale compared to a Flanders Oud Bruin but is very complex and interesting.

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.73/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

a curious brew here, pouring a really dark red, almost brown color, with a minimal white head. oddly dark for the style. the nose is lightly sour, but more vinegar than anything. tart cherries and yeasty must also resonate. the flavor is sugary and fruity, with the cherry becoming sort of artificial. the funk to this is really nice. its only minimally sour, and the darker malts give it some sweetness that is a really nice contrast. the alcohol is very well hidden, and if it wasn't so acidic, this would be relatively drinkable. I like the bigger malt bill, but this beer needs a lot more carbonation to keep up with it. it comes across thin and watery as a result of inferior bubbles. overall not a beer I will race to drink again, but an intriguing take on a style that really doesn't make it to America in much variety. I appreciate the effort, and am sure this is much better live at the source. thanks also to claystation for bringing this one over.

Photo of jrenihan
3.76/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

No date on bottle.

Not much of a sound when the bottle opened- either this beer is just not very carbonated or it has been lost. The beer is very dark brown and there is no head whatsoever.

Smell contains lots of oak and a tart, port-like dark fruit smell.

Taste is quite tart, lots of oak. Resembles balsamic vinegar, with the addition of a vinous, winey flavour. Aftertaste is fairly sour and not particularly pleasant.

Medium bodied, totally flat. Quite astringent. Unfortunate.

Reading other reviews, it is clear both that (a) this beer is not meant to be as flat as it is, and (b) this is a not uncommon problem with this beer. In the state that I got it, it is not particuarly good, with the body really being a problem. Properly bottled, this might be much better.

Photo of Jonada
3.77/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.75

11.2 oz bottle served in a tulip glass. No freshness date

Appearance: Pours a deep dark reddish brown color. Pours almost completely still with no head. Body is nearly opaque.

Smell: Red wine, vinegar, black licorice, soy sauce, chocolate, tobacco, blackberry. Its a very interesting aroma

Taste: Sour grapes, prunes, soy sauce, oak, red wine tannins, slight roasted malt and chocolate. Medium vinegar acidity from start to finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied. Slick, oily mouthfeel. It has about as little carbonation as possible without being completely flat.

Overall: One of the more interesting beers I've ever had. The lack of carbonation hurt this one big time in my opinion. Still a very good brew, but if carbonated, could have been excellent.

Photo of BEERchitect
4.01/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Supreme sour and savory fusion is on display with this Belgian-brewed Sour Ale that favors a balance of succulent sweetness notes that are hard to put your finger on. But with this ale, placing a taste bud is quite easy.

Dark ruby-brown in color, the haze of the beer masks its color and pushes it to an obscure russet dark color. Nearly absolute stillness ensues as the beer relaxes in the glass and preferred still character. Dark for most wines, the beer can resemble aged sherry with its deep saturation of color.

Strongly aromatic, the beer doesn't need any spring of carbonation, it puts on a full-on display of tart and savory balsamic, oxidized sherry wine, soft brandyish sweet notes and savory near-soy sauce-like character. Black cherries, tart apples, and dry white wine all play into the dry fruit and savory scent.

Softer and more savory in taste, the flavor spread of the beer is variant but doesn't share the high sourness in taste that the aromas suggested. Instead the savory-sweet and tart notes of sherry, soy sauce, oak and toasty chocolate greet the early palate. Surprisingly, the tastes only settle into more savory tobacco, leather, and tea-like taste while restraining much of the sourness that was expected from the nose.

There's a pleasant inky weight that these beers do to the palate sensations. Even with the sheer acidity that wants to pang against the tongue, the beer offers up a palate-stripping acidity that's near wine-like and warms the palate much the same.

Cuvee Freddy is an exquisite ale that seems to carry the fundamental complexities of Flanders Red Ales and Oude Bruins but with the aged, earthen maturity of unblended 3-year Lambics. Its a refined taste that deserves a sophisticated palate for true appreciation.

Photo of olfolxholme
3.98/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle into Delirium Noel snifter

A - Very dark brown beer. Looks a little watery after the giant cola colored head fizzes away. No head retention, no lacing. Watch out for sediment when pouring.

S - At first I was getting some iron character, but that faded after a few minutes. I'm glad, because that is almost always unenjoyable for me. A nice, classic tart esters, some barrel - red wine? - and a clear presence of sweet dark malted barley.

T - Sweet malts with a lot of sour cherry and tart candy flavors.

M - Effervescent and refreshing. Leaves you a bit puckered, but it's nice. Feels like you've been drinking a nice red wine.

O - A very nice beer. I am glad that I was able to have a few bottles of this, and could see myself having it again. It's a little on the spendy side, and I would say it's only a must try for real fans of Flemish Ales. I wish there wasn't as much sediment in the bottle, that isn't as appealing. If this were on draft, I would definitely get a glass. Worth trying.

63

Photo of Seanniek91
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Served from an 11.2 oz stubby bottle into a Kriek Belle-Vue tulip. Served just below cellar temps.

Appearance- Dirty, dark blackish/grey. Can't see anything through it. Doesn't look like there's any carbonation in it. Zero head.

Smell- Heavy cherries up front. Bourbon-like lingering aromas of caramel, vanilla, and oak take up the rest of the aroma followed by some light boozieness. Cherries still dominate this beer.

Taste- Cherry tartness mingles with some heavy oakyness. Lemon and earthy grassyness. Plums or another similar stone fruit take its place. Mild tartness, less than I suspected from the smell or style. Bourbon flavors finish this beer.

Mouthfeel- This is where it loses me. On a scale of 1-10 for carbonation (10 being highest), this has a 1. It's barely there. Mild tartness, not puckering though. Smooth finish. I can't decide whether or not I like the lack of carbonation or not.

Overall- I'm torn on this beer. I don't know whether I love it or hate it.

Photo of sweemzander
4.45/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a very dark and murky purple to burnt sienna brown in color. Some semi transparent brown froth that dissipated quickly.

(S)- Very acidic with an inky-like dark fruit aroma. Lots of dank and dirty; almost smoky oak with subtle dark cocoa. Very vinegar-like throughout. A very intense aroma for the style, but I like it.

(T)- Not quite as intense as the smell was, but with very similar characters. A great underlying acidic and vinegar-like sourness. The fruits are extremely dark like plum, prune, cassis, yet quite dirty/inky-like with a subtle smokiness that pokes through with dark cocoa and oak. Finishes very dry.

(M)- Very very subdued carbonation level, but with its vibrant acidity it really is not missed all that much. A very deep and dark rendition of the style with subtle sweetness despite all the acidity and very dirty/smoky oak.

(O)- I can see why not many would like this one, but I certainly do. Like I mentioned before, this is the darkest/deepest take on the style I have had with it being almost so earthy, I do get essences of actual dirt; strange but enjoyable somehow. It is really not much to look at, but the rest of this beer shines.

Photo of tendermorsel
4.27/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

An older vintage (2008?) shared with thepeter as a morning tick from his cellar. Tried this on draft on Borfets and since he had this vintage bottle in the cellar why not?

Redish purple in color. minimal short lasting head. Crazy nose. Fruty, musky and sour smelling. Awesome.

Very tart and complex. Sour cherries plums with dried fruits mixed in. This aged very well. One of the best examples of this style. Not to much vinegar, actually quite balanced.

Much better than the fresh draft verision. Great stuff and the 3-4 years in thepeter's cellar did great things to this beer.

Photo of Viciousknishs
4.39/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- pours a dark dark brown color with a very short lived light tan fizzy head. Looks a bit like cola in my goblet.

S- sticky ripe cherry, damp musty oak and basaltic vinegar with notes of leather and lovely funk.

T- tart acidic sour cherry, underripe blackberry and rich oak flavors. Notes of leather, oak and basaltic vinegar mid palate. Finishes with a smidge of malt sweetness and cranberry with a lingering tartness and red wine tannins.

MF- slick acidic mouthfeel with a medium body. Low soft carbonation.

D- very drinkable for the sour lover. A bit to acidic for those who don't care for the style.

Overall an awesome beer.

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.87/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

For a Flanders old brown, this is decent since it scratches on the surface of what the style could be. But unfortunately, there is really no longevity to the ride, at least not as much as I would think is appropriate. Sure, it hits on the chracteristics of the style very well, but it's gone before you know it and just too thin overall. Don't get me wrong, I like this beer, and it's nice. But if only it could have been just a little bit more, we'd be looking at an amazing beer.

Photo of stckhndlr
4.17/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appears quite dark with no head.

Citrus sour, with a fruity sweet smell

Oak and lime sour, yeast and dark fruit. There's a caramel note that starts to grow on you as the beer warms.

Thin but not watery, and oily kind of feel. Not alot of carbonation.

The flavor of this reminds one of a whiskey sour mixed drink. Just with a touch of carbonation.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Lovely unassuming bottle picked up from K&L Wine Merchants in Redwood City, CA.

Pours a light but unassuming brown-red colour, with what seems to be a filmy, unadventurous head, that rapidly settles out into a fine crest of beige foam. Extremely powdery carbonation forms when tilted, leaving a slick film of lace wherever it goes. Although after a while the head dissipates, it's a very fine looking beer.

Nose is wondrously full of rich oak barrels, mingled with subtle vinous acidity. The body and depth lends some deep grain notes, hinting at chocolate and resiny bark. The acidity is never overdone, but it performs a duty in lightening the rest of the nose. Really lovely.

Taste is smooth and light, and very nicely balanced between the grain/malt sweetness that lends the hint of cocoa and chocolate, and the acidity, which leavens and crisps up the palate. Unfortunately, the acidity also flattens any potential complexity: leaving the beer smooth and consistent, but filtering out any oddities. Acidity ends up being rather acute, being strikingly dominant on the back.

Feel is very light, leaving a sharpness, but no real impression on the mouth.

Overall, I was a little disappointed with this brew. It had so much potential, but really slammed it hard with the acidity, steamrolling any true complexity or subtlety that might be there. While the elements themselves might be very pleasant, it fails somewhat as an overall package.

Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy burgundy color ale with a medium size foamy head with average retention and some light lacing. Aroma consists of sour and tart notes mix in with light sweet notes and some sherry. Taste is also a nice mix between some tart notes which are well balanced with some notes of sherry and port with a subtle vinous character. Body is quite full with good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Very nice and not too one-dimensional on the sour side of things.

Photo of mrfrancis
3.45/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a deep purple with a thin wisp of khaki mousse. Very still in the glass with few traces of carbonation.

S: Intense and woody on the nose with aromas of balsamic vinegar, woody spice, clotted cream, cider apples, and black cherries particularly dominant.

T: Notes of salty brine, oak, clotted cream, black cherry, pomegranate, cider apples, black currants, and balsamic vinegar wash across the palate. The finish is puckering with vinegar and dark fruit flavors.

M: Medium to full bodied, yet thin, oily, and slick. Feels much lighter than it really is. The alcohol is extremely well hidden.

O: This is a decent enough Flemish brown, but I would have liked to see an even more intense, assertive flavor profile and a bit more chewiness in the mouth. Though it's a little too slick in my opinion, this is an above-average take on the style.

Photo of cnally
3.14/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Purchased randomly at random for a random review. You ever pick up a bottle without even looking at it? That's exactly what I did here. Awesome.

This pours a deep, opaque mahogany brown. Barely a head at all, which should be expected considering the alcohol content and the style. Wisps of light brown at the corners.

The aroma is deep, unique and crazy. The oak aging certainly plays front and center. As you handle that there is a sniff of the signature sour yeasts--and a little cherry, sherry--very much like a bourbon.

The experiment fails starting here. While the oak aging did a lot for the aroma, the flavor barely ticks with any of the woodsiness you would expect. Also, the actual hope of having a strongly flavored flanders really falls short. The vinegary, acidic flavor is so muted here it is truly disappointing. Further, there is little hint of the mild malts used. Pretty lackluster.

The mouthfeel is a little thin, even for this style. The carbonation is lower as it should be but still a little less. I assume it is from the excessive aging and the finishing, but it certainly seems thin and underwhelming.

Eh. Could wear it as a cologne (not really) but I guess I'll just drink and enjoy it (also not really).

Photo of Arenbeer
4.25/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

11.2floz bottle into a Goblet glass

Thanks to Finewinemike for this one

Best by Jan 2014

A- Pours a really really dark reddish brown that appears an opaque black with small reddish hues in the light. No head at all even with a vigorous pour, just some small white bubbles around the rim of the glass.

S- Sweet and lactic cherries, apple cider, and vinous notes with tons of funk. A good amount of balsamic vinegar and slight musty wood notes coming through as well.

T- Up front the balsamic vinegar flavor dominates with hints of sweetness from the cherries. The back end provides a lot of musty oak notes and funky fruity flavors.

Medium bodied with moderate carbonation and a nice slightly tart finish.

SkÅL!

Photo of drseamus
4.45/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Served on tap at Ebenezers

A: Dark brown body with a good tan head.

S: Slight sour smell with a hint of vinegar

T: Light flavor with sourness and some vinegar. Slight touch of sweetness but a fairly short taste. Pretty good flanders.

M: Light bodied and really easy to drink (if you like flanders)

D: All day long easily. I ran 16 miles before I went to Ebenezers and I wish this was at the finish line ready for some thirst quenching.

Cuvee Freddy from Picobrouwerij Alvinne
89 out of 100 based on 238 ratings.