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Not The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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Ratings: 362
Reviews: 46
rAvg: 4.13
pDev: 9.69%
Wants: 27
Gots: 129 | FT: 12
Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 04-29-2014)
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Reviews by AgentMunky:
Photo of AgentMunky
3.71/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a snifter. Best after 22 April 2015. I'm a little early, but...

A: Ruby-clear with no head.

S: Sweet, sweet cherries. Booze-soaked dark fruits. I realize this sounds excellent, but it's actually kind of cloying.

T: I don't know know they thought this was an improvement. I love the old Stoic (had it multiple times) but this is cough-syrup sweet...The redeeming qualities are a certain faux-seriousness and distinct spiciness/

M: Not my cuppa tea. Too syrupy.

O: A good beer, but not worthy of the Deschutes Reserve family.

AgentMunky, Jun 22, 2014
More User Reviews:
Photo of russpowell
4/5  rDev -3.1%

Pours a slightly effervescent orange tinged scarlet with a sliver of tan head. Says effervescent. Not much head retention & or lacing , stays bright (2.75)

S: Plums, raisins, black currants & booze, leafy hops (3.5)

T: Juicy fruit, plums, dryness, raisins & booze, some apple skins up front. Raisins, plums, dryness, faint juicy fruit & figs as this warms. Finishes with some cidery acidic notes, pears, white grapes, oakyness, & leafy hops, figgyness (4.25)

MF: Medium bodied, slight over carbonated, a touch boozey, a little slick, some acidic notes biting at the enamel on my teeth, I like it! ( 4.0)

Goes down fairly easy, but interesting. This beer's best days are ahead of it, but can't find much fault with the taste right now (4.0)

russpowell, Aug 27, 2014
Photo of LambicPentameter
4.21/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Enjoyed out of a 22 oz brown bomber with black wax covering the crown and about half of the neck. A "best after" date of 4/22/15 is marked on the side of the label, but we'll see how it is fresh before deciding if it's worth buying a second bottle to have it at "optimal" age. Poured into a large snifter.

Appearance - Pours a dark burgundy brown with deep garnet highlights when held up to the light. After it's been drank down enough to allow light to pass through easily, it takes on an overall ruby characteristic. Atop the body sits a finger of effervescent, active brown sugar colored foam which recedes after a couple minutes, leaving sparse islands of bubbles across an otherwise clear surface and a ringlet around the edges of the glass. Lacing is sparse and doesn't last.

Smell - Some of the typical dark fruit notes that are common in quads are present here--mostly plum with some raisin--but there is also a brighter, more overtly fruity aspect from the pomegranate molasses that brings to mind red fruits and berries, which is only enhnaced by the faint vinous element from the partial wine barrel aging. The rye barrels also make an appearance, with brown sugar and vanilla providing some subtle undertones to the overall aroma.

Taste - As with the smell, there is a heavy presence of fruit, partially from the molasses, and partially from the esters in the yeast. And yes, the wine must characteristics come through, reminiscent of merlot grapes. On the finish is a pleasant sweetness with vanilla, light oak and a pinch of spiciness from the rye barrels, as well as some noticeable alcohol heat.

Mouthfeel - Medium-bodied with low carbonation and a sweet finish with lingering alcohol burn, but not strong.

Overall, a very tasty beer that was good enough for me to buy a second bottle to see how it tastes at its "best". It's been a long time since I had the original Stoic, but if my memory is correct, I think I prefer this one a little better. Of course, my palate has likely changed a great deal since then anyway, so it's probably an irrelevant distinction. Ultimately, this is a well done beer, as long as you aren't expecting a "traditional" quad.

LambicPentameter, Jun 11, 2014
Photo of BEERchitect
4.26/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Let's be clear: The Stoic isn't all that great. It's ok, but complaints about various shelf-life issues causes the beer to resonate with craft beer consumers with varying degrees of popularity and notoriety. But the Deschutes brewers know that the recipe could be done with better justice. So to be clear, this is Not The Stoic.

Whatever it is, is a marvelously dark garnet beer with a deep and ominous gaze. As its creamy froth settles, mouth-whetting aromas of port wine, sherry, brandy and deep toffee sweetness completely mesmerize the soul. Grape and prune give soothing earthen sweetness and allow the early taste to meld seamlessly with its savory aroma.

Its dense and bready-sweet middle palate unfolds with molasses, brown sugar and spice cake. Cobbled fruit flavors lead with grape, but follow with blackberry, raisin, date, fig, plum and tangy pomegranate. Its barrel contributions are sweet, husken, nutty and slathered with those booze-soaked oak, as well as premiere oxidized succulence- taking on port and sherry proportions.

Spicy, warm and continuing savory flavors seep deep into the tastebuds and are reluctant to release, saturating the late taste with dessert like effects that render the ale as a sipping after dinner delight. Its full upstart finishes malty-sweet with balancing vinous and whisky spice that play onward, well into the next sip.

BEERchitect, Jul 17, 2014
Photo of jdense
4/5  rDev -3.1%

The barrel aging and blending adds a bit of complexity. Mouthfeel is a bit thin, and not picking up the pronounced raisin aroma and taste I expect for the style. The use of Rye barrels added a bit of spiciness which was nice. Could definitely use some cellaring.

jdense, Aug 27, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +9%

t2grogan, Oct 08, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +9%

sabitu, Jul 30, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +9%

freshflesh, Jul 09, 2014
Photo of DaftPatrick
4.25/5  rDev +2.9%

DaftPatrick, Jun 04, 2014
Photo of VonSubmarine
5/5  rDev +21.1%

VonSubmarine, May 27, 2014
Photo of mctizzz
3.75/5  rDev -9.2%

mctizzz, May 27, 2014
Photo of wattoclone
4.56/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Deep garnet red, almost black from the side. Aroma is fruity with apples, rum, raisins,
pear and caramel. Taste is outstanding, rivaling the Belgian quadsrupels. It definitely has persistent notes of red grapes from the wine barrels it was aged in to add to the richness. Although not as thick ar intense as a typical Trappist quad like Abt 12, I actually prefer this version of the style. The complex fruit and sweetness tantalize the palate instead of overpowering it. If it wasn't such a high ABV, I could easily drink a few of these.

wattoclone, May 30, 2014
Photo of IrishGermanAmerican
4.25/5  rDev +2.9%

IrishGermanAmerican, Aug 07, 2014
Photo of MattyG85
4.45/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into a St. Bernardus goblet glass. Label says best after 04/22/15.

Appearance: Pours a dark and hazy brownish amber with a moderate amount of bubbles. Small finger of off white head that quickly fades away. Leaves a decent amount of lacing.

Smell: A sweet, fruity, and fairly boozy Quad style aroma with big hints of dark fruit and whiskey. Upfront barrel presence with nicely boozy hints of rye whiskey, oak, wood, and wine like hints of cherries. Belgian yeast with hints of pepper and clove spicing. Toasted malts with hints of biscuit, caramel, toffee, and toast. Huge scent of dark fruit with hints of raisin, prune, fig, dates, and grapes. Also some fruit hints of banana, apple, and pear. Sweet hints of molasses. A very good aroma.

Taste: Like the aroma, a fruity, sweet, and boozy twist on a Belgian Quad with big notes of dark fruit and whiskey. Big barrel presence with upfront notes of rye whiskey, oak, wood, and somewhat tart wine notes of cherries. Belgian yeast with some spice notes of clove and pepper. Sweet notes of molasses and candied sugar. Toasted malt with notes of caramel, toffee, biscuit, and toasted bread. Dried fruit notes of bananas, apple, and pear. Big dark fruit presence with notes of prune, raisin, grape, fig, and dates. Nicely fruity and boozy with a slight acidic edge. A very good taste.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied with a medium to high level of carbonation. Fairly chewy and slick. Sweet but not overly cloying. Some alcohol is felt as expected but its not overly hot.

Overall: A really good twist on the Belgian Quad style. The rye whiskey and wine barrels add a nice kick to a very good dark fruit rich base.

MattyG85, Jul 06, 2014
Photo of HoppySeb
4.25/5  rDev +2.9%

HoppySeb, Jun 09, 2014
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4/5  rDev -3.1%

kevwcamp, Aug 08, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +2.9%

LXIXME, Aug 23, 2014
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4/5  rDev -3.1%

RobertH50, Jul 31, 2014
Photo of Eduk8traz
4.25/5  rDev +2.9%

Eduk8traz, Jun 16, 2014
Photo of KrittyKratz
5/5  rDev +21.1%

KrittyKratz, Jul 23, 2014
Photo of RBassSFHOPit2ME
4/5  rDev -3.1%

RBassSFHOPit2ME, Sep 03, 2014
Photo of joeseppy
4.28/5  rDev +3.6%

Uprush cascading head leaving a hefty one inch head that will ebb soon to a thin cap.
Brown in color with amber hues.

Initial aroma of caramel. Soon developing are raisins and light molasses.

A mellifluous rustic flavor of raisins, molasses and hard candy. As this rises in temperature more alcohol is evident in the aftertaste then onto the olfactories. I believe this is listed at around 12 percent alcohol but damn it's tasty. This brings to mind mincemeat pie.

Silky smooth and creamy.

This craft demands you take time with it and I am. Very nice indeed!

joeseppy, Oct 03, 2014
Photo of TheSixthRing
4/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had on-tap at Boneshaker in Rocklin, CA

Appearance - Served in a 10oz glass, the brew is clear and a deep auburn in color. A small, light brown half finger head sits atop.

Smell -Brown sugar and molasses with big raisin fruitiness. Hints of caramelized banana and a bit of heat from the alcohol.

Taste - Follows the nose to an extent. More caramel and banana than what was hinted, but strong notes of raisin and rum are the predominant flavors here. Sweet with heat. Finishes with a touch of metallic twang.

Mouthfeel - Full in body with low carbonation. Sticky. Smooth, then a drying alcohol finish.

Overall - Not bad, in fact pretty good. A bit too 'dark fruit and sugary sweetness' for my liking, but that's what you get with a quad, and there wasn't too much to turn me off completely. Glad I tried it on tap, but the price on the bottle I saw at the store the next day frightened me off from buying it. I liked it; didn't like it that much!

TheSixthRing, Jun 01, 2014
Photo of Sammy
3.75/5  rDev -9.2%

Sammy, May 08, 2014
Photo of whatname
4/5  rDev -3.1%

whatname, Jun 06, 2014
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Not The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
92 out of 100 based on 362 ratings.