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Not The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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Not The StoicNot The Stoic

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549 Ratings
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Ratings: 549
Reviews: 73
rAvg: 4.14
pDev: 9.42%
Wants: 45
Gots: 228 | FT: 26
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 04-29-2014

Brewed with pomegranate & molasses, 15% aged in oak wine barrels, 15% aged in oak rye barrels.
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Ratings: 549 | Reviews: 73
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Photo of russpowell
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Pours a slightly effervescent orange tinged scarlet with a sliver of tan head. Says effervescent. Not much head retention & or lacing , stays bright (2.75)

S: Plums, raisins, black currants & booze, leafy hops (3.5)

T: Juicy fruit, plums, dryness, raisins & booze, some apple skins up front. Raisins, plums, dryness, faint juicy fruit & figs as this warms. Finishes with some cidery acidic notes, pears, white grapes, oakyness, & leafy hops, figgyness (4.25)

MF: Medium bodied, slight over carbonated, a touch boozey, a little slick, some acidic notes biting at the enamel on my teeth, I like it! ( 4.0)

Goes down fairly easy, but interesting. This beer's best days are ahead of it, but can't find much fault with the taste right now (4.0)

Photo of LambicPentameter
4.21/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Enjoyed out of a 22 oz brown bomber with black wax covering the crown and about half of the neck. A "best after" date of 4/22/15 is marked on the side of the label, but we'll see how it is fresh before deciding if it's worth buying a second bottle to have it at "optimal" age. Poured into a large snifter.

Appearance - Pours a dark burgundy brown with deep garnet highlights when held up to the light. After it's been drank down enough to allow light to pass through easily, it takes on an overall ruby characteristic. Atop the body sits a finger of effervescent, active brown sugar colored foam which recedes after a couple minutes, leaving sparse islands of bubbles across an otherwise clear surface and a ringlet around the edges of the glass. Lacing is sparse and doesn't last.

Smell - Some of the typical dark fruit notes that are common in quads are present here--mostly plum with some raisin--but there is also a brighter, more overtly fruity aspect from the pomegranate molasses that brings to mind red fruits and berries, which is only enhnaced by the faint vinous element from the partial wine barrel aging. The rye barrels also make an appearance, with brown sugar and vanilla providing some subtle undertones to the overall aroma.

Taste - As with the smell, there is a heavy presence of fruit, partially from the molasses, and partially from the esters in the yeast. And yes, the wine must characteristics come through, reminiscent of merlot grapes. On the finish is a pleasant sweetness with vanilla, light oak and a pinch of spiciness from the rye barrels, as well as some noticeable alcohol heat.

Mouthfeel - Medium-bodied with low carbonation and a sweet finish with lingering alcohol burn, but not strong.

Overall, a very tasty beer that was good enough for me to buy a second bottle to see how it tastes at its "best". It's been a long time since I had the original Stoic, but if my memory is correct, I think I prefer this one a little better. Of course, my palate has likely changed a great deal since then anyway, so it's probably an irrelevant distinction. Ultimately, this is a well done beer, as long as you aren't expecting a "traditional" quad.

Photo of BEERchitect
4.27/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Let's be clear: The Stoic isn't all that great. It's ok, but complaints about various shelf-life issues causes the beer to resonate with craft beer consumers with varying degrees of popularity and notoriety. But the Deschutes brewers know that the recipe could be done with better justice. So to be clear, this is Not The Stoic.

Whatever it is, is a marvelously dark garnet beer with a deep and ominous gaze. As its creamy froth settles, mouth-whetting aromas of port wine, sherry, brandy and deep toffee sweetness completely mesmerize the soul. Grape and prune give soothing earthen sweetness and allow the early taste to meld seamlessly with its savory aroma.

Its dense and bready-sweet middle palate unfolds with molasses, brown sugar and spice cake. Cobbled fruit flavors lead with grape, but follow with blackberry, raisin, date, fig, plum and tangy pomegranate. Its barrel contributions are sweet, husken, nutty and slathered with those booze-soaked oak, as well as premiere oxidized succulence- taking on port and sherry proportions.

Spicy, warm and continuing savory flavors seep deep into the tastebuds and are reluctant to release, saturating the late taste with dessert like effects that render the ale as a sipping after dinner delight. Its full upstart finishes malty-sweet with balancing vinous and whisky spice that play onward, well into the next sip.

Photo of BladesOfBarley
4.39/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.75

So, me and my friend were talking about beer the other day. And were discussing last summers Black Butte XXVI, and whether or not the flavor changed at all just half way through the aging process. And we found it wasn't all too different from when it was released. Which got me thinking; I wonder how Not the Stoic is fairing... which, brings us to me, sitting here, drinking it to some Miles Davis.

After tearing off the wax seal and cracking open this bad boy, I poured it a Chimay glass. Great pour, slow and smooth. Shining, a deep red amber, a true treat to the eyes. Only a little head, a slightly brown opaque, decent amount of carbonation. Aromas of dark fruits, caramel, brown sugar and a grace note of booze fill the nostrils, rich and full, perfect for an ice cold night like this one, or in the summer as a good after noon sipper.

As if the appearance and aroma weren't good enough, the flavors really hit the ball out of the pork on this one. Starts of with sweet, dark fruit and brown sugar, followed quickly with subtle wine, oak and caramel. After warming up a bit, the dark fruit flavors and alcohol become more upfront, which in turn really ups the flavor up another notch, hitting your taste buds with a gentle fist.

My only will gripe, is that I, a foolish mortal, decided to open it only half way through the 'drink after' date. Yes, it's a delicious beer, and I would recommend it to any curious beerhead or Belgian fanatic. A great riff on the style, and a great release by Deschutes, whom I salute on making stellar beers. I'd recommend on sitting on this for a whole year or even more, because although it's great now, in a year or more it will be super excellent.

Cheers, you filthy maniacs!

Photo of jdense
4/5  rDev -3.4%

The barrel aging and blending adds a bit of complexity. Mouthfeel is a bit thin, and not picking up the pronounced raisin aroma and taste I expect for the style. The use of Rye barrels added a bit of spiciness which was nice. Could definitely use some cellaring.

Photo of wattoclone
4.53/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Deep garnet red, almost black from the side. Aroma is fruity with apples, rum, raisins,
pear and caramel. Taste is outstanding, rivaling the Belgian quadsrupels. It definitely has persistent notes of red grapes from the wine barrels it was aged in to add to the richness. Although not as thick ar intense as a typical Trappist quad like Abt 12, I actually prefer this version of the style. The complex fruit and sweetness tantalize the palate instead of overpowering it. If it wasn't such a high ABV, I could easily drink a few of these.

Photo of pat61
4.53/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

I am drinking this 10 months before its best after date. A: Chestnut with a slight haze that clears up as the beer warms. 1” quickly dissipating foam collar clings to the side of the glass leaving sheets of lace. Has legs. S: Big fruity molassey nose, some pomegranate and some dark dried fruit with a suspicion of smoke and rye. T: Caramel and vanilla on the palate tending towards brown sugar, some prune, date, fig, not quite fruit cake. M: Chewy body warming, fine soft carbonation. O: Almost fruit cake in a glass. This should get more interesting as sherry notes develop as it ages.

Photo of MattyG85
4.45/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into a St. Bernardus goblet glass. Label says best after 04/22/15.

Appearance: Pours a dark and hazy brownish amber with a moderate amount of bubbles. Small finger of off white head that quickly fades away. Leaves a decent amount of lacing.

Smell: A sweet, fruity, and fairly boozy Quad style aroma with big hints of dark fruit and whiskey. Upfront barrel presence with nicely boozy hints of rye whiskey, oak, wood, and wine like hints of cherries. Belgian yeast with hints of pepper and clove spicing. Toasted malts with hints of biscuit, caramel, toffee, and toast. Huge scent of dark fruit with hints of raisin, prune, fig, dates, and grapes. Also some fruit hints of banana, apple, and pear. Sweet hints of molasses. A very good aroma.

Taste: Like the aroma, a fruity, sweet, and boozy twist on a Belgian Quad with big notes of dark fruit and whiskey. Big barrel presence with upfront notes of rye whiskey, oak, wood, and somewhat tart wine notes of cherries. Belgian yeast with some spice notes of clove and pepper. Sweet notes of molasses and candied sugar. Toasted malt with notes of caramel, toffee, biscuit, and toasted bread. Dried fruit notes of bananas, apple, and pear. Big dark fruit presence with notes of prune, raisin, grape, fig, and dates. Nicely fruity and boozy with a slight acidic edge. A very good taste.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied with a medium to high level of carbonation. Fairly chewy and slick. Sweet but not overly cloying. Some alcohol is felt as expected but its not overly hot.

Overall: A really good twist on the Belgian Quad style. The rye whiskey and wine barrels add a nice kick to a very good dark fruit rich base.

Photo of joeseppy
4.28/5  rDev +3.4%

Uprush cascading head leaving a hefty one inch head that will ebb soon to a thin cap.
Brown in color with amber hues.

Initial aroma of caramel. Soon developing are raisins and light molasses.

A mellifluous rustic flavor of raisins, molasses and hard candy. As this rises in temperature more alcohol is evident in the aftertaste then onto the olfactories. I believe this is listed at around 12 percent alcohol but damn it's tasty. This brings to mind mincemeat pie.

Silky smooth and creamy.

This craft demands you take time with it and I am. Very nice indeed!

Photo of TheSixthRing
4/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had on-tap at Boneshaker in Rocklin, CA

Appearance - Served in a 10oz glass, the brew is clear and a deep auburn in color. A small, light brown half finger head sits atop.

Smell -Brown sugar and molasses with big raisin fruitiness. Hints of caramelized banana and a bit of heat from the alcohol.

Taste - Follows the nose to an extent. More caramel and banana than what was hinted, but strong notes of raisin and rum are the predominant flavors here. Sweet with heat. Finishes with a touch of metallic twang.

Mouthfeel - Full in body with low carbonation. Sticky. Smooth, then a drying alcohol finish.

Overall - Not bad, in fact pretty good. A bit too 'dark fruit and sugary sweetness' for my liking, but that's what you get with a quad, and there wasn't too much to turn me off completely. Glad I tried it on tap, but the price on the bottle I saw at the store the next day frightened me off from buying it. I liked it; didn't like it that much!

Photo of spacecake9
5/5  rDev +20.8%

Poured into a Duvel goblet...
A - Pours a dark amber brown w/ thin head.
S - I smell raisin s or plums and then booze.
T - Not what I expected! The aroma suggested a heavier more alcohol flavored beer but no! Yes you get the raisins and sweetness and a hint of wine but this is not an overpowering boozy beer. Wonderful complex flavors that do justice to the pomegranate molasses & oak wine/oak rye barrel aging on the label.
M - Somewhat thin with low carbonation and a little back of the throat alcohol burn.
O - This beer is delicious. This is why I drink beer. I want complex flavors and this beer delivers for me. I have to get back to the store and pick up a couple more of these.

Photo of richj1970
4.1/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 22 oz bomber into snifter glass. Bottle dated best after 4/12/2015.

A: Pours a deep mahogany brown with subtle cherry red tones. Smallish one finger tan head that settled quickly to a thin ring around the edge. Very little lacing.

S: Cherry, plum, and dates. Sweet caramel. Some alcohol that reminds me of Irish whiskey.

T: Plenty of dark fruits. Plum, dates, raisins. Belgian candy sugar. Slight hint of peppery spice at the end.

M: Medium body and lightly carbonated. Nice fruity punch and sweet finish. A little alcohol heat at the end.

O: Solid American interpretation of a Belgian Quad. Very easy drinking.

Photo of Brutaltruth
4.41/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Enjoyed from a growler in a snifter, this FANTASTIC quad pours a cloudy brownish orange with little to no head or lacing. Nose of plums, brown sugar, raisin, light floral hops, and a brandy like alcohol. Flavors are complex to say the least. Plum and pomegranate to the front and sides (best representation of pomegranate I have tasted thus far). Tons of brown sugar goodness with rye barrel coming through on the back blending to make a brandy like quality. Intriguing. Moderate carbonation, slick mouth feel, and a wet finish with alcohol warmth. Fantastic. Worth getting more in a bottle to lay down for a time.

Photo of Bung
3.99/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A little warm still, but a good one. Will improve I'm sure.

Photo of jellikit
4.5/5  rDev +8.7%

Tap.
Appearance: cloudy brown. Thin head, tiny bubbles on outside of glass. Small lacing that fades back into the beer.
Smell: bourbon, oak, molasses, alcohol.
Taste: fig, raisin, whiskey, small hop presence, booze.
Mouthfeel: medium-light carbonation. Medium body. Sweet. Mouth-numbing alcohol.
Overall: big. Tasty. Be cautious....creeps up on you. Will buy again.

Photo of puboflyons
4.08/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

From the waxed 650 ml. bottle dated 04/27/15. Sampled a little less than a year from that on May 25, 2014. This was given to me as a gift.

Dark brown to just about black pour with no head.

Sweet molasses and malts kick off the aroma but then the pomegranates express themselves in a mellow sort of way but just enough to let me know they're there. Licorice too. No booze for 12%. That's encouraging.

Medium body and semi-smooth.

That taste really fires up my senses because if its dark malt, licorice, and pomegranate notes. Alcohol is very well integrated into the beer. You'd barely know it was there except at the finish your head when you get a little woozy. A sipper or sure but a delightful one.

Photo of n2185
3.75/5  rDev -9.4%

A: Pours a clear dark ruby with half a finger of off-white head that fades into a thin ring with little lacing.

S: Belgian spices, candy sugar, and a bit of bubblegum. Some dark fruit aromas come through along with a scent of booze.

T: Belgian spices and candy sugar dominate here with a mix of light and dark fruits--pears and prunes both come to mind. There is a hearty bread flavor underneath before a significantly boozy finish.

M: Medium body with lower carbonation, this beer avoids being too thick and syrupy, but isn't as drinkable as the best quads.

O: A solid beer, overall, but doesn't quite nail the depth and is a bit too boozy. This would be a good one to stick away for a few years.

Photo of ocelot2500
3.77/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a clear deep amber color with a small, off-white head that leaves little to no lacing.

Smells of dark fruits with some brown sugar.

Tastes of the dark fruits with a bit too much sweetness. Dark fruits come through first with raisins and cherries along with some of the pomegranate. Caramel and brown sugar comes next with a heavy dose of molasses. Plenty of sweetness, and in my opinion too much. Oak notes come through and round it out.

Mouthfeel is medium with a light amount of carbonation.

Overall, this has a lot going for it but would be better if the sweetness was toned down.

Photo of SPLITGRIN
4.31/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a growler into my Bell's snifter. A strong pour gets me an inch of light biscuity brown head. Body is a very deep tone of rich black ruby red mix. Very sexy look to this beer.

Smell is very deep and luxurious with lots of sweet dark fruit notes. Plum is the standout fruit, so ripe and juicy. Hints of sweet red wine are mixed with the dark fruits. The smell even yields the promise of a bit of tannic complexity possibly to come.

Taste is immediately noticeably sweet. The plum that played on the nose is very present on the taste buds as well. There is also a very strong sweet bread feel going on here. There is a bit of a sherry character and noticeable alcohol, but not in a bad way. Flavor is nicely complex and very easy to drink for the alcohol content. I will look for this in bottle form because I would be very interested to see how this one ages.

Photo of smakawhat
4.01/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from the bottle into a tulip glass.

A deep almost ruby red, but has a much darker brown color to it. Up to the light it seems to carry a bit of orange highlights, making for a real interesting body color. Head is virtually non existent, but manages a simple but good tan collar along the edges. There is a degree of clarity through all this darkness, as some rising carbonation does make it's way slowly cascading up the glass.

Aroma seems to come off like a standard Beligan dark quad. Hints of raisin and brown sugarm, but also a bit of purple grape like sweetness. There's a bit of buttery quality to this as well, which seems to hint a bit at some barrel notes too, but just ever so slightly.

Palate comes through with a real thick body. Mouthfeel really stands out on this, thick and rich without a syrupy feel. However, it coats nicely all around the mid palate, and manages some honey like stickiness on the lips. Mid palate washes with fruited grape and cherry. Mild candi finish helps to bring out the big fruit flavors even more so. Slight brandy like warmth and heat coming off this as well, which lends for a good stomach settling feeling.

Overall a pretty interesting quad and very enjoyable.

Photo of Gregaroo
4.75/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

First of the night. Steaks on the grill for Ravens/Pats game. Black wax cap then poured into a chalice. Awesome all around. Worth the price. Get some.

Photo of BrewChatKen
4.5/5  rDev +8.7%

Bottle review, had it later on tap and didn't like it quite as much for some reason. The aroma reminded me very much of your stereotypical barleywine, there was also, brown sugar, mollasses, pomegranate, cherry, cranberry, raisins and booze. Poured a deep ruby brown color with a tan head that receded quickly. Had a great full body while stil feeling kinda light in the mouth. On the palate there was molasses, dark fruits, raisins, brown sugar, wine, oak and booze. This is a beer I can see aging well and I can't wait to have it again in a year. As it stands now though I thought it was absolutely fantastic, I'm a big fan.

Photo of LiquidAmber
4/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Gavroche tulip. Pours a medium to dark red amber with a half finger light tan head with good retention and lacing. Aroma of caramel malt, dried and fresh dark stone fruit, rye whiskey, cherry juice. Flavor is mild caramel malt, sweet fresh dark stone fruit, pomegranate, whiskey, estery. Finishes with dry wood, mildly tart, rye whiskey and light hop bitterness. Medium bodied. Not a typical quadrupel profile, with more sweet/sour fruit flavors and less maltiness. Well made with nice mixed fruit flavors and barrel influence, more along the line of a Belgian and American strong ale hybrid. Enjoyable, but not to style.

Photo of mwilbur
3.27/5  rDev -21%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Poured from 22 oz bottle into snifter. Best after 4/22/15 (little early).
A: Pours a clear dark amber hue with just a thin skim of light tan head.
S: Rye whiskey, light sweet caramel, hint of molasses and bubblegum sweetness. A bit odd for style.
T: Flash of pomegranate up front, then quickly turns toward molasses and caramel, then a bit further into it the rye whiskey hits. Clashing notes of sweetness doesn't do this one any favors.
M: Light-medium body. Oily and sweet. Mildly boozy finish...drinks lighter than the ABV would suggest.
D: This one had an interesting thought process behind it, but the end result just didn't pan out. Meh. And I don't really think it's going to improve a ton with aging.

Photo of cubsfanshane
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Good, clean, dark, heavy

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Not The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
92 out of 100 based on 549 ratings.