The Dissident - Deschutes Brewery

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Ratings: 1,140
Reviews: 456
rAvg: 4.21
pDev: 10.69%
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Gots: 567 | FT: 52
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  11.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MisterClean on 08-19-2008

Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012
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Photo of Benish
3.84/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

2014 batch at the Beer Hive in Salt Lake City.

After I ordered this, I realized this was aged in wine barrels. I let out a groan; I have the tendency to think it will taste winey and vinegary. It sure did with this one. The barrels lend a strong winey taste to it - too much that the sourness is an afterthought. It did have a nice sourish flavor with a decent malt backbone and strong notes of cherries. But the vinegar and wine notes were overwhelming. I also found the beer to be a bit under-carbonated. My opinion: keep the wine barrels away from this. Try an oak barrel or maybe even a whisky barrel. I did enjoy this, but it wasn't La Folie.

Photo of zach60614
2.04/5  rDev -51.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2

2010 vintage

Something went terribly wrong here. Tasted like a blend of cherry cough medicine and apple cider vinegar.

Photo of Beeeeeerman
4.35/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I have had the 2010 and a pleasant surprise. Outstanding

Photo of BastardKing24
4.8/5  rDev +14%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

I have been looking for this beer for 8 years, finally found it... woo here goes.

Looks like light red with wispy head that leaves some bubbles and lacing. Legit sour ale look.

Smell is complex and rich. I get vinegar, brown sugar and spice, orange, lemon, caramel, and toast.

Taste is superb, phenomenal, just right as far as a good flanders goes. Rich complex sour notes up front with a hit of alc, some burnt toast, caramel, and light fruit. Zest is in there too with some citrus, but its mostly rich and caramely. Some cherry and wine in the background, but its a compliment.

Feel is just right, not too much carb.

Overall I give this a 4.75 cause its that good, whats there not to like about this beer, I cant find anything.

Photo of Snoman4141
5/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Ive been lucky enough to have 2008, 10 and 12 and this is beer is perfect.

Photo of BubalooBrewMaster
3.19/5  rDev -24.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

It was okay .But for the style it fell short.

Photo of BillRoth
3.77/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

2012 Reserve. Got in trade. Highly anticipated. Love Old Browns. Big fan of Deschutes over the years.
Not a knockout. Also...though slight...the funkiness is distracting...seems more an off taste than a complement. And there was a bit of a burn in drinking I associated with ABV. And...why ramp up a beer I would more expect a more session oriented beer?
Also, may be I should have anticipated smarter...am not a wine barrel beer guy. Find them often thinned and astringent and ( as expected) winey. Obviously this is "as described" a beer aged in pinot barrels.
Probably works for most...just not in my wheel house.

Photo of VncentLIFE
4.68/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

At first, I wasnt really impressed. It started flat and bland, but as is true with really good American sours, it opened up. What was once this bland malt forward slightly sweet beer opened up into a tart cherry beauty. The sweet malt flavors were balanced out by a hint of lactobacillus acidity and tart cherries. Also, a kiss of the wine barrel comes in to add a touch of depth.

That nose of oak, caramel, and acidity really doesnt lead you on. That tartness acts as a balancing act, making the sweet malt seem required.

Its not the low pH beer you get from many brewers, its clearly meant for subtlety and elegance. The tart cherry pie notes and sweet malt make you think cherry pie in the best way possible. Theres no strong bourbon or other barrel flavors, its just a well structured wine barrel beer.

Go Deschutes.

Photo of n2185
3.66/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

A: Pours a clear copper color with half a finger of beige head that almost completely disappears with no lacing.

S: Sour and tart cherries dominate with caramel and vanilla along with some vinegary acetic notes.

T: Tart and sour cherries here as well along with some acetic flavors, bitter yeast notes, There are some light caramel flavors before a finish that is tart and with a light alcohol burn. There's a bit of a musty, funky aftertaste.

M: Medium-light body with low carbonation, this beer's tartness is the only thing that saves it from being watery.

O: A solid beer, overall. I'd like a bit more carbonation and balance, but overall is enjoyable.

Photo of ONovoMexicano
4.29/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Served from the bomber into a Goose Island wine glass/tulip-shaped glass.

The head is thin on the pour and it quickly dissipates, leaving a pale cream colored liquid in its wake. Beneath is a blonde, amber and orange colored liquid, cloudy and thick and seemingly something tougher to navigate. I'm expecting a fuller-bodied brew just looking at this, although the variance in color suggests a range of flavors. 4.25

The nose is tart and acidic with a citrus feel to it. Additionally, I find berry notes and a malty base that offers some burnt caramel aroma. 4

Ooh, that first sip is delectable. The burnt caramel/malt flavor makes much more of an impact and reminds me of an oud bruin, something malt heavy yet tart and mouth-puckering. A variety of flavors work their way into the equation here ranging from a tangy white wine to a rich, zesty orange and brown sugar. The finish is all citrus, lingering the way orange juice does in the morning, sweet yet acidic. 4.5

Juicy is an apt description for how this beer feels on the tongue. But it's got a touch of zest and spice, tartness and acidity. Plus a more burnt sugar sort of sweetness that is thick and chewy on the mouth and this too just adds richness to the beer. 4.25

Abyss had recently disappointed me, so I was a bit skeptical about this beer, but it exceeded my expectations and then some. It's fantastic. An excellent---to my thinking and tastes--- oud bruin-style beer.

Photo of PacNWDad
4.13/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2014 reserve version. Great sour brown with red fruit, biscuit, yeast, leather and earthy notes. Somewhat dry finish from the oak. Will benefit from another year.

Photo of biboergosum
4.15/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

22oz, red wax sealed bottle, 2014 Reserve edition, coming in at 10.7% ABV. Not going to bother with the 'Best After' suggestion on this one.

This beer pours a slightly hazy, medium bright orange-brick amber hue, with one finger of soapy and bubbly ecru head, which leaves a wash of melting iceberg lace around the glass as things gently subside.

It smells of bready, crackery caramel malt, sour cherries, vinous red grape juice, ethereal yeasty white cheese, a tame musty funk, lemon vinegar, and a soft leafy, earthy hoppiness. The taste is big bready, and mildly doughy caramel malt, underripe bing cherries, mushy strawberries, a touch of astringent wood, real vanilla, more mixed and moderately soused black orchard fruit, a rather subtle earthy and musty, cheesy funkiness, and pretty innocuous leafy, floral, and faintly perfumed hops.

The carbonation is pretty low-key, just a plainly supportive frothiness abounding, the body a decent medium weight, and more or less smooth, these particular acids not in the mood to meddle, apparently. It finishes well off-dry, the sturdy base malt buoyed by the complex sweet and sour fresh and barrel-borne fruitiness.

A rather pleasant and engaging wood-treated version of the style - it's not going to challenge Rodenbach or the Duchesse, but instead sit amicably right next to them in the limited pantheon of sour Flemish ales available around here. Fruity, certainly, and yet balanced, especially when it comes to addressing that elephant kicking back in the middle of the room (no, I'm not seeing things) - yeah, the 21+ proof booze is really hard to come by, it would seem.

Photo of morimech
4.4/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2012 vintage. Nice cherry and acidic fruit notes. Deep and complex. Glad I waited a couple of years.

Photo of MLDucky
2.89/5  rDev -31.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

I didn't see this as the style it's described as. More pinot flavor than anything, not much acidity or tartness. I'll revisit this again after the best after date.

Photo of pathman
5/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2012 vintage aged at 53 F since purchase. Consumed 2/21/15. Sublime.

Photo of FutureMan91
3.43/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Looks and smells the part but boozy/bitter city with slight tart and slight cherry. Nothing to write home over. 2014 vintage but didn't wait until "enjoy after date." compared to befuddlement this is literally bland and more like a red ale. Not a sour...

Photo of CascadiaGrokker
5/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

So glad this will be an annual release now. Opened a 2014 bottle and it was everything I remember from 5 years ago, and more. Truly special beer.

Photo of TheFightfan1
4.73/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Finally after years on my wants list,got one in shoprite fairless hills.

Photo of leroybrown10
4.04/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a reddish color with hints of brown. Mild haze. One finger cream colored head. Decent lacing left behind as the head dissipates.

Aroma of tart cherry, red grape, ripe plum and some oak. Mild acetic acid, leather, and citrus.

Tart cherry again on the tongue. Wine notes of red grape, oaky barrel notes, and ripe plum. A hint of diacetyl. Some vinegary tartness. Lemony citrus, hints of tart raspberry, vanilla and caramel.

Moderate mouth feel going towards thin. Medium carbonation. Some tartness but no where near sour. Dry on the finish.

This is a nice tart beer with notable wine characteristics. A bit of diacetyl on the flavor was slightly off-putting but it had plenty of other positive notes to offset that. This had a best after date of about 9 months in the future so I'm looking forward to cracking open my 2 other bottles down the road.

Photo of chefbigjon
4.29/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

So close to being so awesome. Needs a little more pucker, more...something. I liked it, but I think it needs more, I don;t know, time? Sourness? I really like the cherry flavor. I enjoyed this beer but I think it needs something more to make it memorable.

Photo of zander4dawin
4.36/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Golden Amber beer with thin soapy head and great clarity. Some burnt sugars, sour cherry, fruit salad, pineapple, tangerine with a slick oily mouthfeel.

Photo of samtrillo
4.47/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2014 Edition.

Pours an effervescent and translucent red-purple with no head or lacing.

Nose features funky yeast, fermented cherry, sour red wine tartness.

Taste is sour-sweet cherry with some hints of oak. Not the most sour, but it definitely fits the bill. It's almost like fermented black cherry juice aged in oak barrels... not a beer. Which is impressive. The woodiness is there on the back end but the aftertaste is red wine and cherry. The after-after taste (a minute since last sip) feels like a sweet Zinfandel. Which is also nice and very impressive. I can for sure see this mellowing out with a year on it. Becoming less sweet and less tart and more Pinot Noir like, but this is what I got now. Not sure I can afford to a age second one of these.

For the price I paid, and the ABV, and the style... this beer, ale, sour, wine like drink.. is surprisingly... quaffable. Yet, the next time you bring it to your lips, you want to savor it. Worth the price? Depends on your curiosity. I'm not a rich man and I can say I'm happy I bought this.

Photo of putonyourwalkingshoes
4.43/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 22 oz bottle. Best after date Oct. 2015.

A: Thin translucent rusty brown.

S: Cherry oak. Really subtle.

T: Not sour initally. Good tannin profile on the pinot front. Oaky. Gets sour as it warms but the cherry oak profile blends nicely. Something you could crush with high abv. Very little alcohol presence.

M: Just incredible all around but again age will help in this aspect to smoothen things out. My favorite aspect of this one. The blending of oak, light tobacco, and deep ruby cherry. Good tannin quality almost not a sour.

O: This is my favorite Descutes beer and consistent at that. I can see gains with age but it's not hot now like a fresh abyss. Way better than abyss and not carrying that hype. Its a great take on a flanders oude bruin

Photo of barczar
4.05/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Light acetic acid, vinous, oak, and a touch of funk.

Slightly phenolic flavor. Wish it were more sour.

Photo of jsurfs82
4.5/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Really enjoyable interesting beer. Not overly sour and alot going on with aroma and on the palate. Drinks just about as easy as the lower ABV brothers of this style. I'll drink this over Abyss any day. A great beer from Deschutes!

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