The Dissident - Deschutes Brewery

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Ratings: 1,140
Reviews: 456
rAvg: 4.21
pDev: 10.69%
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  11.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MisterClean on 08-19-2008

Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012
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Photo of Sammy
3.64/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured reddish, not too thick. An aroma of spit and bacteria. Initially, the sourness well controlled by malt. Decent mouthfeel for a sour. Drinkable over a meal, tastes somewhat of a wild ale that builds up in the mouth over repeated sips.Intersting and worth seeking out.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.09/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Knownfactor for sending me this one!

Best after 11/1/11. Oh well, I am a few months early on this one.

Pours a slightly hazy copper orange color with a 1 inch off-white head that fades to a film on the top of the beer. Small random spots of lace form on the glass on the drink down. Smell is of sour cherries, wine grapes, wood, and funk/must/vinegar. Taste is of bitter sour cherries, sour grapes, wood from the barrels, and funk/must/vinegar. This beer has a good carbonation with a crisp and slightly dry finish. Overall, this is a good flanders oud bruin with some nice sour cherry flavors. I am glad I got to acquire 2 bottles of this. I am going to hold onto the other bottle for a while to see how it ages.

Photo of Thorpe429
4.02/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Consumed in September 2009.

Pours a dark ruby with a large white head. The smell is one of sweetness with a little bit of tart fruit coming in, mostly cherries. Hints of wood. Some slightly-roasted malt and accompanying sweetness. The taste is most prominent in the tart fruit department, with a bit of an alcohol bite. The mouthfeel is medium with a good amount of carbonation.

Photo of brentk56
4.7/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a cloudy russet color with a thick head that retains exquisitely and sheets the tulip with lace

Smell: Tart cherries, oak, green apple, peaches and a hint of vanilla

Taste: Fresh peaches, up front, though it is just a moment before the tart cherry and green apple flavors arrive to overwhelm the palate; the oaky aspect figures into the profile before the swallow, but what ensues is a surprisingly sweet character and yeasty funk (vanilla included) that lingers underneath the sour flavors

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate, but prickly carbonation; somewhat creamy, nevertheless

Drinkability: An outstanding achievement by the brewery - not previously known for their sours

Note: I preferred the 2008 to the much boozier 2010, which was a bit overwhelming

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.17/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

just one of those classics for me. it looks a little thin, light brown color with a red hue to it. good carbonation is obvious, as a fizzy white head rises up. the nose is intense. lots of red wine vibes, although this isnt barrel aged in vino. also lots of sour in the aroma. brett and lacto at least, but this isnt acidic. there is some sweetness in the flavor from the malt, and that red fruit tone again. maybe something tart in fruit, like cranberries or something. more red wine tannins in the finish, and a puckery sour. the alcohol is well hidden, a superbly dirnkable bottle. medium body in the end, and bold carbonation just short of pop like. its expensive and rare, but it is just a beer that you need to seek out. its hard to describe because it stands alone. a sour yes, but its so much more than that. one of the more complex bottles of beer around.

Photo of Phyl21ca
4.06/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a deep reddish color ale with large foamy head with great retention and great lacing. Aroma of oak and tart notes are clearly dominant with some light funk also discernable. Taste is also dominated by some oak notes with a tart taste with some lactic funky sour notes also noticeable. Good body with great carbonation with no apparent alcohol. While I really enjoyed the sourness and the oak notes I thought the funky yeast didn't integrated that well with the rest of the flavors. Still very good nonetheless.

Photo of Knapp85
4.09/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

This poured out as a brownish red color with a white head on top. The soapy looking head fades and leaves a ring of foam around the edge. The smell of the beer is tart on the nose some really nice cherry aromas. The taste of the beer is tart and sour. There is some sweetness in tere as well that is a little on the syrupy side. The mouthfeel of the beer is nicely carbonated with a medium body to it. Overall this beer is pretty good. I feel it could be a little more sour. It's still a pretty good brew.

Photo of largadeer
3.81/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2008 batch:

Appearance: 22 oz bottle dipped in crimson-colored wax, which is ridiculously thick. Awesome label and presentation. The beer itself pours a dark but clear reddish-brown with two fingers of off-white head forming from a vigorous pour. The beer is just barely transparent in my tulip glass. Head retention is decent for the style.

Smell: Funky, horsey brett is apparent as soon as my bottle has been uncapped. Once it's actually in my glass, the tart aroma of cherries is evident as well along with a hint of red wine.

Taste & mouthfeel: Tart cherries through and through, it's far and away the dominant character. Sourness and acidity are fairly spot-on for the oud bruin style, which is to say that they're in balance with the rest of the flavors rather than being completely in-your-face like a lambic. Sweetness is minimal, faintly present in the background, tasting more like remnants of fructose from the cherries rather than from the malt. The use of wine barrels for aging is most evident in the finish, where for a moment it actually fools you into thinking that you're drinking a glass of pinot noir. Acetobacter is practically non-existent here, which is absolutely a good thing in my opinion. The mouthfeel is pleasantly light and dry, perhaps slightly tannic from oak aging.

Drinkability: Dangerously drinkable. I'd never guess this was 9%, and with expertly balanced acidity this goes down far too easy.

Overall: I'm impressed. Deschutes has managed to create a beer of surprising authenticity, quite a feat given that this is their first attempt at the style.

2010 batch:

Boozy and astringent, though still decently complex and fruity. Not as enjoyable as the previous release.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.47/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2008 Reserve. Scintillating scarlet with topaz colored accents when backlit with sunshine. The firmly creamy golden beige crown was three fingers to start, looks wonderful, and is in the process of laying down a more than respectable array of sudsy lace.

The nose smells exactly like a well-crafted Flanders oud bruin brewed with Brettanomyces should smell. The wild yeast doesn't overpower the base beer and the Washington State cherries manage to have their say as well. This could be yet another world-class ale from Deschutes.

The Dissident was worth the wait. I'm not sure how it tasted fresh, but it's fandamntastic after sleeping in the cellar for the past 24 months. It will probably last at least that long from this point forward, if not longer. Not this bomber, though. This bomber is about to meet its fate in glorious fashion.

The acidity is not off the charts, which is always a boon to drinkability. There are some malt sugars running interference that add an underlying sweetness that one does not often experience in beer of this style. Tangy-tart-sour is still in the lead, as it should be.

This special release tastes more red than bruin (brown). That's probably because of the cherries and the fact that is was aged in Pinot Noir and Cabernet barrels. That intense vinousness and fruitiness is what puts it over the top for me. It's incredibly satisfying when great beer on paper turns into great beer in the glass. Brown bread and cherry preserves and red wine and farmhouse funk... oh my!

Warming allows what was meshing in the first few ounces to mesh even more seamlessly during the rest of the bottle. This offering is so complex that it's difficult to focus on just one aspect in any given mouthful. Best to just let it bathe the taste buds and revel in the result.

The mouthfeel isn't even close to letting down the rest of the beer. It's at least medium-full for the style and is much more lush and creamy than most. By the way, alcohol is buried without a trace.

Even though I had the foresight to buy several bottles of The Dissident back in '08, I was stupid enough to trade away all but this bottle. If I'm lucky enough to have access to the second release (scheduled for next month), that mistake will not be repeated. Bottom line: one of the best of 2010.

Photo of mikesgroove
4.1/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks goes out to the kind trader who sent me this one. I had been dying to try it but shut out at all attempts, glad I could finally succeed at one of them! Twenty Two ounce bottle, dipped in wax and served at cellar temperature in a snifter glass. Consumed on 10/05/2008.

The pour was rather interesting. A deep brown color came through almost immediately but with a more then decent reddish tint to it. Almost completely opaque, I was surprised to be honest with how full this one came off right away. Not really much in the way of a head on the first pour, though the second one produced some decent rise to about a half inch that quickly settled down and relaxed.

The aroma was rather nice, not as tart as I would have liked, but still more then decent. Nice notes of sour cherries, a hint of apple and some figs were all quite big here. There was a nice touch of sweetness built into it though that was subtle enough to offer some nice balance to it. The flavor too was very well done. Rich, and quite complex. Started with an interesting rush of grain, nice and full with a decidedly fruity taste. Light touches of cherries, sour apples, and a hint of almost currant like flavor coming through. Some light hoppiness which really came out of nowhere, but was quickly shunned aside by the sour cherry flavor. Long and drawn out finish was very dry and really let the flavor sit on the tongue, letting you take all of it in. Rich and creamy feel was a little bit bigger then what I would normally associate with the style, but still very nicely done. For 11% this one came out of left field. I would have sworn up and down this was no bigger then 6% until I really started feeling it towards the end.

Overall I would say this was a very solid beer. Not the best sour I have had recently,. But very well balanced and nicely put together. Rich enough to be an all-night sipper for sure. Not a bad release here and I would not be opposed to trying it out again.

Photo of biboergosum
4.15/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

22oz, red wax sealed bottle, 2014 Reserve edition, coming in at 10.7% ABV. Not going to bother with the 'Best After' suggestion on this one.

This beer pours a slightly hazy, medium bright orange-brick amber hue, with one finger of soapy and bubbly ecru head, which leaves a wash of melting iceberg lace around the glass as things gently subside.

It smells of bready, crackery caramel malt, sour cherries, vinous red grape juice, ethereal yeasty white cheese, a tame musty funk, lemon vinegar, and a soft leafy, earthy hoppiness. The taste is big bready, and mildly doughy caramel malt, underripe bing cherries, mushy strawberries, a touch of astringent wood, real vanilla, more mixed and moderately soused black orchard fruit, a rather subtle earthy and musty, cheesy funkiness, and pretty innocuous leafy, floral, and faintly perfumed hops.

The carbonation is pretty low-key, just a plainly supportive frothiness abounding, the body a decent medium weight, and more or less smooth, these particular acids not in the mood to meddle, apparently. It finishes well off-dry, the sturdy base malt buoyed by the complex sweet and sour fresh and barrel-borne fruitiness.

A rather pleasant and engaging wood-treated version of the style - it's not going to challenge Rodenbach or the Duchesse, but instead sit amicably right next to them in the limited pantheon of sour Flemish ales available around here. Fruity, certainly, and yet balanced, especially when it comes to addressing that elephant kicking back in the middle of the room (no, I'm not seeing things) - yeah, the 21+ proof booze is really hard to come by, it would seem.

Photo of emerge077
4.17/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Monsone for this one!

Served in a Duvel glass. Deep red, ruby jewel tone with high clarity. One finger of tan foam initially, that sizzled with an audible crackle against the ear. Spotty bits of lace, but not much. Even the etching in the glass doesn't keep the head from disappearing into a thin ring. Swirling does regenerate it, but it just doesn't retain itself all that well.

Initial first whiff from the bottle was a pleasant funky ripe cheese note. After pouring it seemed to quickly blow off and was replaced by a woody cherry aroma.

Tart and tangy, yogurt like, moderately acidic. Cherry pit, no sweetness from the fruit. Wood and leather in the aftertaste. A spicy tingle from the alcohol. Creamy, with a full body that contributes a pleasant vinous mouthfeel. The finish has a definite tanginess about it, rather than sour.

Rodenbach Grand Cru is still the benchmark to me, although this is in the ballpark. Actually it bears more resemblance to JP La Roja. The potential is there...it just seems to lack an extra degree of complexity that would make it exceptional. Still a successful experiment that I was happy to enjoy.

Photo of womencantsail
4/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The pour is a dark amber/copper color with a minimal off-white head that has minimal retention.

S: A mild vinegary aroma as you might expect from a Flanders Red/Brown, along with a bit of oak and a mix of sour cherries and malty sweetness.

T: The cherry flavor is more pronounced and provides a balance of sweet and tartness. The vinegar character is moderate and overall the beer is not that sour for the style, nor is the oak all that present.

M: The body is medium with a smooth and somewhat light carbonation.

D: Not my favorite Flemish sour, but a decent representation. Only lightly sour, but a decent balance of sweetness and tartness.

Photo of zeff80
4.12/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a clear, copper/rust color with a thick, foamy, white, one-finger head. It left a little soapy lace.

S - It smelled funky and of horse blanket. It had a light toasted caramel aroma, too.

T - It had a mellow yeasty quality and the funkiness builds with a nice caramel malt backbone.

M - It was very sharp and crisp with a very dry finish. A medium-bodied beer.

D - This is a pretty good brew. I've never had this style, but I've enjoyed it.

Photo of oline73
4.03/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a reddish amber with a layer of off white head that fades to a ring around the edge of the glass.

Smell: Fruity, sour vinegar with some sweet malt. Smells like it is going to be quite sour.

Taste: Some mildly sweet malt up front with a fruity sourness. Red wine notes with a mild metallic/nickel flavor. The finish is sour and a little bitter.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with fluffy carbonation and a finish that is a bit slick.

Overall: This is a really good sour that could have been fantastic but there was a mild metallic note in the taste. The alcohol was almost nowhere to be found. Not sure if I would hunt down another one given the rarity.

Photo of RblWthACoz
4.2/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a clear ruby hued brown. Nose is appley vinegar. Wood is there too. Mellow but nice. Flavor is surprisingly smooth and unabrasive. Regardless of the intensity, it's still quite smooth. Very rounded flavor profile. Wood, maturely sweet fruits. It's just a nice combo. So smooth that I give the 4.5 for flavor; but I can see how that could get debatable. Smooth feel. Carbonation could stand to be slightly less biting IMO. I do like this beer. It's well made and another reason why I hate Deschutes for not distributing all the way over here.

Thanks to urwatuh8 for a sweet Deschutes hook up.

Photo of Slatetank
4.22/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I had this at Ebenezer's Pub 22oz bomber served cool in a taster - Thanks Chris!

A - A deep hazed bronze w/ red highlights and ecru cap w/ tiny bead + a goodly amount of lace clings

S - The aroma of funk and fruit is strong - light cherry notes w/ a slight red grape skin hint and notes of bitter orange w/ slight grassy odor

M - A dry funked up texture which is phenolic and slightly astringent w/ mild carbonation - the feel has juiced and spiced elements w/ wildness very prominent in the mix and the finish is mildly tannic

T - A mild cherry flavor is noted as lots of brett greets the tongue and has a slight medicinal taste followed by biscuit and grapeskin elements w/ slight stone fruit weaving in and out w/ flavors that overlap w/ a hint of caramel malt as it finishes

D - A great wild ale, it has a nice balance of brett, fruit and subtle bitterness w/ the malt not being forgotten and making the experience pleasurable

Photo of russpowell
4.41/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11-16-12 Bumping up my scores based on my most recent bottle, an absolute delight. A sour/tart tour de force

Pours an effervescent caramel/chestnut with a bit of sand colored head. You can certainly hear the carbonation! Some lacing & average head retention

S: Sourness & horse blanket, fades as this warms

T: Vinegar tartness, some raspberry & dirt up front, plus green apples. Some caramel starts fighting through the green apple sourness as this warms, plus more raspberry tartness, white mushrooms are also there as well, with more dryness & a bit of toffee as well. Finishes dry tart & with a nice raspberry twang, plus more green apples,& caramel. The tartness fading at the end kind of detracted style-wise

MF: Puckery with light but synergistic carbonation, reminds me of farmhouse dry cider from England or Normandy. Balances well for the style, very sticky at the end. My teeth feel like they are rotting; I'm thinking caramel apples with some twang

The ABV is well disguised, but the tartness & dryness do slow me down a bit. I have a love/hate relationship with this style, this certainly skews more towards of the love side of the beer spectrum. Well done, deschutes! sour beer freaks may find this wanting, but I enjoyed this quite a bit

Photo of WVbeergeek
4.63/5  rDev +10%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

First off thanks Geof spreading your brewery to the other coastline, it adds much beer karma to your repertoire. I'm going to spread as much fan fare as possible for your wedding date in the PAC NW as soon as you respond to my beermail. Thanks for these fine brews and my Dissident sample! It appears a brillant blood burgundy semi clouded body with a a large light khaki head forming fine even bubbled lacing spread evenly with each sip have no worries this brew is refined and ready to roll.

Which leads me to aromatics tart cherries along with peels bringing on the earthiness that can't be denied. Wild funky notes of lactic character which ever infectious strain was added to this brew does so well, I can' t knock any portion of my 22 oz. sample. Semi viscous oak barrel characteristics blend well, continue to add opinions here.

Flavor is ridiculous, consists of mild apple vinegar notes with cherry soaked alcohol infused complexities, this brew is without a doubt one of the most amazing American brewed versions of the style. Tartness catches you by the balls, but an unrelenting version of Flemish style brown ales slaps you around into complacency. Wonderful!

Mouthfeel is of course dry in the finish with huge soaking aspects of brew that will dry your whole palate out before you know what hits you. Thank god the medium body and fuller spritzy carbonation really let's things air out a bit.

Drinkability, poured into my Gulden Draak chalice it let's itself work well upon the overall experience...very tart and dry apple cider notes, I can't express enough fine resilient notes our drying characteristics that offer up one exemplary flavor profile, continue to watch for updates...thanks again Geof, you're the man I'm glad I had a hand in your craft brew love affair.

Photo of kojevergas
3.7/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2012 reserve. Best after 8/20/13. 11.4%. Brown glass bottle with waxed over cap served into a Guinness goblet in a tasting in me gaff in high altitude Castle Rock, Colorado. Reviewed live. Expectations are through the roof. Cost was $14.49.

Served straight from the refrigerator and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a two finger head, fairly thin, of decent cream, and good retention. Body colour is a semitransparent amber-auburn. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Tart raspberry and cherry, bright fruit esters, amber malts, and excellent fruit esters. An average strength aroma.

T: Restrained tartness and bacteria. Very muted wild yeast. Balanced and enjoyable. Really pleasant. Too restrained. Balanced but a bit underwhelming. I wanted more. Built well.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Excellent carbonation. Great thickness. Good presence on the palate.

Dr: Very drinkable and enjoyable. I'd have this again, but it's not an ideal sour. I've had far better. A tasty sour, but not Deschutes' beer.

High B

Photo of mdfb79
4.27/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From 12/12/10 notes. Brought a growler of this to a local tasting. 2010 batch.

a - Pours a dark amber red color with two inches of white head and moderate carbonation

s - Smells of sour cherries and dark fruits, sweet fruit, vinegar, and a hint of oak.

t - Taste follows the nose, but not as sweet. Some sour and tart cherries, funk, and no real oak.

m - Medium body and low carbonation. Pretty smooth, I liked the body.

d - I thought this was a really good flanders. Some people thought the first batch was more sour and had mroe oak; I've never had that batch but still really enjoyed this one. Would like to get a bottle of this to compare.

Photo of drabmuh
4.15/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Growler provided by Dan, thanks Dan...a growler...really?

Beer is light brown and mostly clear with a head of large and small bubbles, mild carbonation and minimal lacing.

Aroma is mildly acetic with a bite to it. Good malt notes in there as well.

Beer is medium to light in body and sweeter than I expected. The lead off character is strongly malty and pretty sweet, this immediately gives way to a strong funky sourness, mostly lactic with an acetic and mildly citric brightness to it. The finish is clean and mildly tart in the corners of my mouth. A very good bruin.

Photo of jwc215
4.2/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to JWD, piclee and Bitterbill for each sending me a bottle!

22 oz. wax-capped bottle, poured into tulip glass.

Pours ruby brown with a tan head that descends to a thin cover that lasts through most of duration before becoming patchy. Some lacing sticks. Very nice colour.

The smelll is sweet and sour with a spicy breadiness and a slight herbal backing.

The taste is sweet and sour with a "wild" yeast touch, giving it a "funky" flair. Well-balanced, malty, yeasty, with a touch of mild herbal bitterness. Sweet caramel/toffee maltiness ties things together nicely. Alcohol well-covered. Finishes dry.

It has a creamy medium body.

A nice take on the style. Very drinkable. Enjoyable without being overpowering. Unique, yet "in-style".

Photo of Mora2000
4.32/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of thirdeye11.

Pours brown with an off-white head. The aroma is a mix of vinegar and very tart cherries. Definitely a very good aroma. The flavor is also heavy on the cherries with some funk as well. It is definitely a sour beer, but not as sour as the aroma led me to believe it would be. You also get some oak and vanilla in the flavor. Medium to high carbonation and very drinkable.

Photo of mdaschaf
4.09/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2012 Vintage.

A: Pours a purple/burgundy color with a small off-white head that reduces quickly and leaves little lacing.

S: Slight acidity, a little red wine, some cherry and stone fruit. Faint tartness with a little sweetness on the finish.

T: Quite vinegary with some cherry and raspberry, its rather wine like and tannic. There is some oak and a bit of vanilla and red grapes.

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation, slightly dry finish. On the acetic side.

O: Pretty good, not a sour as I'd hoped, but really like how the oak comes through and how forward the vanilla is. Excited to give it a try after the best by date.

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The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
94 out of 100 based on 1,140 ratings.