The Dissident - Deschutes Brewery

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Reviews: 451
Hads: 1,148
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 9.64%
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Gots: 568 | FT: 52
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  11.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MisterClean on 08-19-2008

Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012
Fourth release (10.7% ABV) - December 2014
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Photo of barczar
4.05/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Light acetic acid forms the initial aroma, with vinous notes, oak, and a touch of funk adding complexity. The cherry is subtle in comparison.

Slightly phenolic flavor. Wish it were more sour. (192 characters)

Photo of jsurfs82
4.5/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Really enjoyable interesting beer. Not overly sour and alot going on with aroma and on the palate. Drinks just about as easy as the lower ABV brothers of this style. I'll drink this over Abyss any day. A great beer from Deschutes! (230 characters)

Photo of Celtics17
4.5/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

Big wine character in the taste. The aroma leads with big cherry notes, and in the taste you get some cherry in the front, and a slight puckering effect at the end. I know this gets better with age.. (200 characters)

Photo of Poti0nseller
4.06/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This has a complex yet cohesive profile. The wild blend opens the pallet to the tart, fruit cherry and closes with a suddle, dry flavor of the oak barrels. I enjoyed the 2014 reserve and would gladly buy again. (210 characters)

Photo of BrAdequate
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

A whole lot of wine shines here even though on 35% of it sits in pinot noir barrels. Not enough cherry as expected. Beautiful deep red and brown with a very light cream color head. A bit heavy in the nought and lingers forever in the back. Very good but was hoping for something more from the barrel and the cherries. (317 characters)

Photo of jakewatt135
4.31/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2012 reserve.

Great beer, personally my favorite point is with 2 years age on it. Really allows the fresh cherries to meld in and add some nice depth to the flavor but thy are definitely still there. I get a great sherry flavor too going with the age.

If you like the more fruity element drink fresh. If you don't mind losing a little fresh fruit to get some more flavors and rounded out beer go for 2 years. I had the 2010 reserve when buying the 2014 and thought it had fallen off considerably. (499 characters)

Photo of LambicPentameter
4.24/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Moving on to the fourth and final component beer in the Collage deconstruction tasting, I have to thank BA Deschutes_Fan for sending this bottle to me in a trade and completing the final missing piece of the tasting. Heck, that's where I got the idea for the tasting in the first place, as well as the recommended order, so cheers to Deschutes_Fan! Enjoyed out of a 22 oz brown bomber with the 2012 vintage marked clearly on the front of the label and a "best after" date of 8/20/13. Poured into an old fashioned glass.

Appearance (4.0) - Pours a caramel brown colored body with a hazy disposition that prevents much ability to see into or through the liquid. Similar to The Stoic, it was hard to coax much of a head out of this one, instead resulting in a half finger of effervescent head that that shrunk away into near obscurity almost immediately, leaving an off-white ringlet with a tannish tint and a smattering of islands of film across the survace of the beer.

Smell (4.25) - Well, any disappointment that might've come from the appearance has quickly been waved off, as the aroma is a wonderfully acidic blend of apple cider vinegar and sour cherry; it almost nose run because of that excellent acidic profile. There is also a small measure of musty funk, partially from the barrel-aging I imagine, but also due to the use of Brett.

Taste (4.25) - Picking right up where the aroma left, there is an excellent note from the sour cherries, but not overpowering, letting the base oud bruin beer do it's thing. Balsamic, red wine vinegar and granny smith apples all seem to make an impression on my tastebuds before giving way to a nice bit of malty sweetness that prevents my face from puckering in on itself.

Mouthfeel (4.25) - Medium-bodied and moderate carbonation, with an initial puckering feel on the tongue followed by a dry finish.

Overall (4.25), a really nice take on the style, with the cherries giving it a bit of a kriek feel, but a bit sweeter from the base beer than you'd get from a kriek. Probably my favorite individual beer of the group of beers that make up Collage. (2,097 characters)

Photo of BierJager89
4.4/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours a dark, murky orange with a white ring of head.

S: Very oud-bruiny nose, stale fruit, dark candied fruit.

T: Some lemony, citrus rind, stale fruit, cherry, and a slight bitterness.

M: Medium bodied and smoothish.

O: An excellent sour, recommended to any fans of any of the sour beer styles. One of Deschutes best. (326 characters)

Photo of BobbySue22
4.05/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Poured a medium brown color, almost looked liked bourbon. Very little head that dissipated very quickly.

Aroma: A full aroma that contained hints of bourbon, dark fruits, and red wine.

Taste: Sour but not overwhelmingly so. Very strong but balanced flavors of cherries, acid, and wine. Flavors are layered and each taste offers a different amount of each flavor.

Mouthfeel: A medium-bodied beer that tastes lighter due to the light carbonation.

Overall: Very good sour beer. Not lip-puckering sour but very drinkable. The aroma gives off a bourbon hint but the beer was not aged in bourbon barrels and each taste is a little surprise with the different flavors in the beer. (691 characters)

Photo of AgentMunky
4.36/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a snifter. Vintage 2012. Best after 20 August 2013.

A: No head. Hazy auburn.

S: Flatly tart in a very Oud Bruin sort of way. Top notes of lemon zest. Deeper red-fruitier scents as well.

T: Mmm. Interesting. This is basically a barleywine with a hint of lambic tartness. As it warms up, I realise I'm completely wrong and the truth is the opposite. This is an honest Oud Bruin, true to the style,

M: Tart then sweet...sweet then tart...tart then sweet...This beer is a pendulum.

O: This is an incredible beer. Highly recommended. Want to have again. (589 characters)

Photo of zeledonia
4.41/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

2012 vintage. Tasted 30 May 2014.

Pours a murky medium brown. Just a little head, gone fast, not much lacing - but that's typical of a sour.

Smell is tart, with vinegar, dark fruit, and red wine. A delightful combination, quite sour, but the aroma is full and potent.

Taste is a complex blend of acidic sour, red wine vinegar, and cherries. So many shades of sour, teasing me with different delights each time I taste it. Again, it's full-flavored, and quite multidimensional. I love the depth and variety it brings.

Feel is top-notch. It's medium-bodied, heavier than many similar beers, but with prickly carbonation that lightens it and makes the flavors dance. That combo of heavy and light is fantastic.

The more I drink this, the more I like it. The level of complexity in the flavor is impressive, and the feel is a perfect complement. An excellent, robust sour. (873 characters)

Photo of Ri0
3.91/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

poured 22oz bottle into teku. Drink after 8/2013

A - It pours a dirty ruby with an off white 2.5 finger head that fizzes. Fades quickly into a collar and leaves behind a few traces of lace.

S - Faint cherries, dark tart fruit, and red wine. Some oak and brown sugar round it out.

T - Red wine and oak seem to be the most prevalent with some medicinal cherry flavor. Not very sour and only somewhat tart. Dark fruits and brown sugar fill in on the finish. There is a booziness to this beer.

M - Carbonated and light bodied, very dry.

O - This was good, but I didn't like as much as most. A bit too much red wine and the cherry flavor was medicinal for me. Good, but not exceptional. (690 characters)

Photo of IvoryFoxhole
4.43/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz bottle from 2012 bottling. Says best after 8/2013. Aged since 11/2012. Poured into Belgian ale glass directly from aging refrigerator so served around 52 degrees.

A) Reddish to cordovan, moderate carbonation bubbles. 2/3 finger head when poured, not very much retention, thin ring left.

S) Sour cherries, mustiness from yeast, maybe some citus or lemongrass

T) Very smooth and very complex. Cherries and citrus, not too much funk at all, not very sour at beginning. Finish is sweeter. Really well done.

M) Medium to full bodied, not as much carbonation as indicated by looking at it, really no evidence of the 11.4% alcohol content. This is really well-done.

Russian River Supplication has been surpassed. This is masterful. Will have to grab more than one bottle the next time they release. (802 characters)

Photo of gcamparone
4.41/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2010 vintage. Batch 2. Best after 11/01/11. Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a Deschutes snifter glass. Acquired in a trade from nedvalton, thank you sir!

A- Pours a hazy, muddy brownish- maroon body with a two finger white head that reduces slowly to a white ring of foam.

S- Smells of funky brett, tart lactic acid, sharp sour lemons, grass, caramel/toffee, dark cherries, white wine, grapes. So complex, aromatic, and inviting. I can't wait to sip this.

T- Wow.. this is amazing. The first thing you notice is the tart cherries/citrus notes. I wouldn't call this acidic.. I'd call it on the higher end of tart. The tartness combines with some funkyness coupled with a slight astringent hoppiness. The finish is sweet with some very nice vanilla, caramel, toffee, burnt toast, charred bready notes. Very complex.

M- Medium body, good drinkability, medium carbonation.

I've really been looking forward to trying this beer and it didn't disappoint! Super complex and balanced. Very well done, Deschutes. 4 years has done wonders. (1,037 characters)

Photo of dar482
4.04/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

The beer comes in a dark rusty reddish brown.

The aroma has tons of tart cherries, vinegar sourness, some alcohol.

The flavor follows with a punch of "old" sour cherries, vinegar, some caramel and toffee sweetness, oak, and then a hit of alcohol.

The alcohol is decently hidden, but still shines through as something that is quite big. 11% is not a huge surprise however. I prefer the beers in the style to be less alcoholic and more refreshing. Still a wonderfully complex and delicious beer. (496 characters)

Photo of dgilks
4.15/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Cloudy cloudy cloudy. Amber. Small tan head. Poor head retention.

Cherries and tart fruit. Light malt. Goaty funk.

Big fruity flavour followed up by sourness. Nice earthy character than combines with lactic acid. Cherries really pop.

Moderate body with moderate carbonation. Solid.

Excellent beer. The tartness and fruit works well. Nice stuff. (352 characters)

Photo of peensteen
4.16/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Liam, batch 3

Hazed red colour, ring of off white head, not much in the way of lace either. Smell is full of cherry and oak, vinious and fruity, red berry, alcohol at points and some malt/wheat as well. Taste is of cherry but also fairly malty before getting to oak and tart fruits, drying sour berry with a bit of alcohol flavours on the back end. Medium drying carbonation, medium body. Quite good, but I feel this would benefit from a bit more time but would have it again gladly anytime. (509 characters)

Photo of Ryan011235
3.99/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Delirium snifter on 2/2/13

Best after 11/01/11

Shared at a tasting by nrbw23. I had been wanting to try this beer for quite a while. Thanks Brad.

A) Dirty rust water brown. A thin, soapy head dies off but swirling helps. Spotty lace.

S) Lots of dark sour cherries with a pastry-like backing. Hints of vinegar. Interesting in that is has a sugary but not sweet smell.

T) Only moderately sour but it still has a good amount of sour cherries to it. Semi-sweet dark bread. Very faint hints of spices. Full, malty flavor but not terribly sweet. Very dry finish.

M) Medium body with slightly abrasive grittiness. Smooth, moderate feel. It's the sort of feel I can totally get behind.

D) Great to drink. I really like this one. (748 characters)

Photo of spoony
4.33/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

From a 650 ml waxed bottle (best after August 20, 2013) into a wine glass. 2012 vintage.

A-The brew is murky brownish-cherry in color. There is a short-lived soda-pop-like head of khaki foam. The visible, active carbonation keeps a patchy cap hanging around for a while. Pretty standard look for the style with a better than average reddish hue.

S-There is a lot going on here. Up front, there is sour cherry and green apple tartness paired with a big dose of funky oak that gives suggestions of vanilla. The oak also provides a nice bit of drying tannic-like smells. I also smell prune from the malts, but the prune isn't terribly sweet, and this beer is fairly dry and lacking in sugar sweetness for the style. The alcohol is spicy and warming.

T-The taste follows the smell mostly. I don't get much sour, only a light tartness with sour cherry being most noticeable. The prune and raisin component are stronger than expected, but the malty dark fruits pair well with the oaky vanilla and mild, earthy funk. The alcohol is spicy and warming, but well-integrated.

M-The feel on this year-old bottle is very soft for the style with smooth, ultra-fine carbonation. Heft is medium to full.

O-A nice effort. This brew is quite drinkable for 11.4% ABV. I originally was hoping for more tart flavors, but after about two sips, I started to really enjoy the less sweet (for the style) malt-forward character. It is complex and balanced and the taste really grew on me. I'm not sure what food this would pair with, but it drank well on its own after dinner. This is a great (and powerful) take on the style. (1,605 characters)

Photo of Chico1985
3.91/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

October 2012 bottle shared generously by who else but cbutova. Had a 'drink after' date of August 2013.

Pour is darkish amber with some haze. A small off-white head forms a ring after some time and stays as such. Nose brings a good balance of tart dark fruits, red wine, and oak.

Taste once again brings an impressive balance. It's tart and oaky but not puckering or over the top. Dark fruits, red wine, brown sugar and vanilla. Incredibly smooth for 11+% with moderate carbonation, very drinkable.

Like The Abyss, this is a testament to making a complex 11% beer very subtle. Low-end sourness and acidity sets this apart some for the style and lets the wine barrel show through a bit more. (693 characters)

Photo of cbutova
4.11/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2012 bottle, best after August 24, 2013 I think it said. Reviewed from notes taken last night. Split with my usual tasting buddies.

A- Murky blood red pour into five glasses. Appears brown in the middle with the red around the sides. Small fizzy off-white head but looks like carbonation is gonna be low. Small foamy ring after lackluster head retention and almost no lace in sight.

S- Spicy figs and dark red fruits like cherries mixed with a nice amount of wine grapes and some vinegar acetic acid hints. Slight dark brown sugar.

T- Pretty big Belgian yeast spice opens up in the flavor. The nice acetic acid and cherries carries over from the nose as well as that dusty Flanders tart funk feel. Some molasses, brown sugar and oak hints. As with the nose the wine influence is nice with grapes and some sweetness.

MF- Fairly low carbonation but the high ABV and flavors allows this to not be a huge deal. Pretty oily and moderately thick on the palate. Tart vinous bitters in the finish.

Authentic Flanders fruit vinegar feel mixed with nice Belgian yeast spice and some good darker sugar flavors. Like the wine grape and oak complexity. ABV is also non-existent. (1,170 characters)

Photo of wordemupg
4.06/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2012 650ml maroon waxed bomber poured into tulip 7/9/13, cheers Rutager for the bottle

A murky dark amber, looks thick with bubbles struggling to get to the surface, short lived finger of foam leaves no lace

S wet wood, cheesy funk, cherries and raspberries, brown sugar, vinous notes, more earthy funk and some vanilla and spice I can't place

T caramel and a little booze but considering it's 11.4% I'd say it's well concealed, wet funky wood and sour fruit

M full bodied with mellow carbonation, slick on the palate with just a little heat, funk and brown sugar linger

O a nice mix of funk, fruit, sugars and barrel, hard to believe only 20% of this was aged on wood, something I'd look for again and I'd love another bottle to age as I could see the funk coming out down the road

I rather liked this brew and would love to try an aged bottle or other vintages, in all honesty the only reason this one made it past its best after date is I forgot I had one (969 characters)

Photo of Murrhey
4.32/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a wax sealed bomber into a goblet in high elevation Kalispell, Mont. Reviewed live. Expectations are high. The "best-after" date is August 20, 2013.

A- Small, mostly clear head with active carbonation and large bubbles. Deep reddish-brown color. Slightly hazy.

S- Powerful wild yeast scent. Vinous and boozy aroma with some cherries. Strong, wild smell with distinct notes of aging. Clear it is very alcoholic.

T- Tartness and definite notes of barrel-aging. Woodenness that lends itself to chocolate and tobacco flavorings. Cherries and some red wine tannins. Complex, flavorful beer that surprisingly hides the wine-like alcoholic notes quite well. Has an aura of scotch whisky about it as well. Interesting.

M- Vinous feel with subtle carbonation. Wet finish.

O- Apart from the feel, which was just above average, this was an outstanding beer. Glad I waited to drink it. ...although I wonder what it would be like fresh. (941 characters)

Photo of lordofstarside
4.38/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

My first bottle of the 2012 reserve. Best after 8/20, have two more bottles I'm aging so I'll re-review then. Poured into a snifter

Pours a rich brassy copper that gets nice and cloudy in the middle. Little transparency, little carbonation. Had a half finger of foam which receded quickly, moderate retention. Not bad looking for the style. Smells of cherries, oak, apple, vinegar, some citrus and some malt. Taste is upfront sour cherry and apple, which quickly turns from sour to a mild bitter. Malty after taste, gets a bit sweeter with each sip. Feel is a little bland, doesn't finish with a bang. Pretty sticky though, acids leave a nice tingle. Overall it's pretty good, and should really improve with age. The malts and yeast still have a lot of work changing over the next year hopefully leaving this beer with a tangy and sweeter kick. Looking forward to popping another in August
4.5/4.5/4/3/4

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Re-review, 8/30/13. Hit the best after date, bomber to a snifter, 2012 reserve

Pours a nice color- caramel, amber, copper, mahogany. A very vibrant shade between red and brown. A finger of foam has quickly receded to a ring a froth in the center. A thin but steady stream of carbonation shooting from the center. Good lacing and legs, transparency near 90%, perfect score

I have a bit of a stuffy nose but the smell seems a bit muted. When I really get in there- sour cherries, oak, red wine, vinegar, apple, and a sweet malty finish. Smell has gotten a lot sweeter, melds well with the sour

Taste is with the nose, sour cherry along with some apple with the fruits, strong oak coming through along with the wine. Sweet malts come through with the finish, some good complexity

Feel is a medium body, medium sourness that's balanced nicely with the sweetness from the malts. Nice tingle on the tongue, pretty drinkable. Most all the alcohol is concealed, very smooth

Overall: Better color, development of legs, oak and wine coming through much stronger on nose and taste, sweeter finish, better feel. Has definitely improved through the aging and very nicely, can't wait to get more this year, I'll re review a third time when I open the third (2,160 characters)

Photo of andrenaline
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

Props to joemcgrath27 for sharing this tasty brew with me.

A - Pours a murky ruby colour, thin layer of head which quickly dissipates and leaves no real lacing.

S - Musty funk, wooden oak, sour cherries.

T - Sour cherries with subtle undertones of oak. Reminiscent of a sour cherry blaster candy but the sweetness is subdued and complemented by some earthy funk. ABV is barely noticeable with the exception of a bit of heat that lingers in your chest.

M - Medium bodied, smooth and a touch of dryness.

O - Incredibly flavourful with a high voltage ABV that goes completely undetected. A true privilege to have had the chance to enjoy it, and an even more stoked to share it with my BA bro in crime. (703 characters)

The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
92 out of 100 based on 451 ratings.