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The Dissident - Deschutes Brewery

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970 Ratings
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Ratings: 970
Reviews: 425
rAvg: 4.2
pDev: 10.71%
Wants: 899
Gots: 424 | FT: 29
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Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  11.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012

(Beer added by: MisterClean on 08-19-2008)
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Photo of happygnome
4.2/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge thanks to wisconsinality for busting this bad boy out. 2010 vintage. Bottle poured into a tulip.

a: pours a deep dark maroon color with about a quarter inch of head that disappears quickly leaving a good amount of lace on top of the beer and edge of the glass

s: sweet sour cherries, vanilla. The sourness balances out the sweetness along with a hint of fruity bitter

t: Sweet sour cherry flavor. The vanilla flavor is present but not extremely noticeable. A hint of barrel in the taste.

m: full to medium bodied beer with good carbonation
Very nice beer

happygnome, Feb 26, 2011
Photo of beerwolf77
3.35/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Huge thanks to wisconsinality for busting this bad boy out. 2010 vintage. Bottle poured into a tulip.

A: Dark red hue. Small pinkish beige head. Tiny bit of lace no cap.

S: Juicy black cherries mixed with a hint of vanilla. Red rope licorice and hint of barrel wood. Just a hint of sour. Borderline medicinal.

T: The brown ale really comes through in the flavor. No where near as sour as i had hoped. Light sour cherry flavor. Brown sugar, vanilla and a touch of barrel. Again it reaches that medicinal cough syrup phase that I'm not thrilled with.

M: Full to medium creamy body. Light carbonation.

D: Well I know Deschutes has a best after date so I guess I can't be too surprised. Luckily I have a bottle in the cellar. I will adjust my score once I sample that one in a year.

beerwolf77, Feb 23, 2011
Photo of Beerandraiderfan
4.15/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

What a vibrant orange color, looks like an awesome ipa! A little amount of head to it, no lace. Great sour aroma, cherries, orange, oak.

Taste, wasn't the sour bomb I was expecting, balanced I guess, tartness and sour is there, but I wouldn't describe it as dry. Hides the alcohol quite nicely, aspect of vanilla in there.

Would love to try this again, had a bit of a stomach virus when I had this, and it took away from the overall enjoyment I suspect. A little pricey.

Beerandraiderfan, Feb 22, 2011
Photo of MADhombrewer
3.98/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance- Muddy brandy-like color. Almost no head. What head it DID have did not last long.

Smell- Lots of cherry and alcohol aromas.

Taste- Lots of cherry tartness. I am still a newbie when it comes to sour beers, but this one finishes very clean. I really like it. I can still taste some malt on it for a different dimension.

Mouthfeel- Very carbonated. Almost like champagne. The malt in it gives it some thickness. A little slick.

Drinkability- This style of beer is a sipper for me. You don't "put this down" the same as any other beer. At 11% ABV I don't think I will want another, but if it had less alcohol I would want another.

I was lucky enough to grab 4 of these this year and can't wait to see how they develop through the years.

MADhombrewer, Feb 12, 2011
Photo of SpdKilz
4.28/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

While this technically isn't the bottle I traded for, (ran across some up near SF while up there for the PtY release) I want to thank BillHilly for getting me two of these bottles over Christmas. Cheers!

2010 release.

Appearance - Pours into my Delirium Tremens Tulip with a rather dark red/mahogany color. About a finger of quickly dissipating tan head is achieved with a relatively vigorous pour, that leaves minimal lacing on the sides of the glass.

Smell - Well, let's just say while letting this warm up a bit the aromas can easily be noticed with it sitting a couple feet away. Barnyard funk, oak, loads of tart cherries, green apples, and vanilla.

Taste - Not what the nose would have led me to believe actually. Quite a bit more subdued than I had hoped (and am also hoping a couple years on this will make it that much tarter). There is a definite cherry tartness up front, melding to a nice sweet oaky, vanilla flavor in the middle, that then fades to slight hops and a tinge of alcohol. As it warms a bit more vinegar characteristics make themselves known.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied, creamy, prickly carbonation. Finishes a hint tart/vinegary/dry.

Drinkability - While I did open this beer before its "enjoy after" date, I felt the need to try it now. The alcohol is a bit too noticeable, granted, it is 10.5%. In addition, it is not as tart/acidic as I was hoping. I really feel some age on this will really let the alcohol mellow, and the Brett pick up a bit more. Can't wait to try this in about a year or so. Have four more left (may trade a couple) but I will keep at least two to see how this ages. Glad I was able to try this and get my hands on it.

SpdKilz, Feb 10, 2011
Photo of JamisonM
4.47/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2010 edition

A: quite clear, deep mahogany red. small head goes away quite fast.

S: slightly sour big brett notes here lots of funk sour cherry with a small amount of acid on the smell.

T: hit with a wave of sourness, first sip is always kind of a shock to the system but in a good way. beer has funky brett notes and cherry notes in there wonderfully complex

M: light mouth with med carbonation

D: very drinkable given the style and abv

Overall: wow one of the best American sours or wild ales I have had I am very impressed they are such a good brewery. They really do nail most of the beer they brew. They do make mistakes and there mistakes have been well documented in the beer world but I that was mainly in 2009 and I am sure they have learned from that and will move forward and continue to make great beers such as this.

Video review up here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_TuZTHGxRI

JamisonM, Feb 05, 2011
Photo of AdamBear
3.13/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to BigBlacke for supplying this one at a tasting

A-perfect honey amber colored with and off white colored head. its quite a joy to look at!

S-smells like caramel and booze and some cherry

T-initial impression is that this a very dry beer. it basically just tastes like a champagne and some caramel flavors. the after-taste is of cherries and some caramel. the ending is a bit tart but not too much. I have to admit that this is somewhat of a complex beer, and some people might find this wonderful, but it just doesn't impress me.

M-it has a hot medium carbonation with a very dry finish

D-its not a bad drinker but I just had a small glass of this and I'm not sure I could've finished an entire bottle

AdamBear, Feb 05, 2011
Photo of BigBlacke
4/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Dissident pours a cherry red mixed with caramel color.

Smell is of tart cherries and booze.

Taste is a delightful sourness with oaky and cherry hints.

Mouthfeel is very crisp and dry like a champagne.

Drinkability is not the highest due to the high abv. Great sour though.

BigBlacke, Feb 05, 2011
Photo of Shmeal
4.6/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a 16oz. Deschutes snifter from Rastal.

A - a dark brown with some red in it. Similar in appearance to Troegs Mad Elf

S - Subtle overall, but definitely tartness, cherries, red wine, and oak

T - Awesome, pretty complex with different flavors washing over each other as one works his way through the sip. Tart cherries come first, followed by some vanilla and red wine flavor. Didn't really get a lot of oak in the taste.

M - Very smooth with some light carbonation. Slightly more viscous than your typical sour such as Supplication from RR

D - Extremely Drinkable for a sour, but I wouldn't want to drink more than a bottle if you plan on using your taste buds for something afterwards.

Shmeal, Feb 04, 2011
Photo of peacebone116
4.47/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to babyismycat (my b.i.l.) for the 2010 bomber as my Christmas gift!

Poured into a festival tasting flute. This review is based on the notes that I took on Christmas Eve 2010.

A: Clear copper--small head that completely disappears as the beer settles; good carbonation continues throughout though.

N: Tart; sour cherry and sourdough toast.

T/M: While cool, sour cherries and vanilla (possibly from the oak) is quite evident, with the cherry flavor dominating. As it warms, the is a definite note of pinot grigio. No "alcohol flavoring", but slight warming in the back of the mouth. Sweet, despite the tartness of the overall flavor.
The beer is smooth with a light finish; not a heavy mouth feel at all, but the sourness definitely helps you enjoy this one a bit slower, like you would with a tart lemonade. Very impressive!

peacebone116, Feb 01, 2011
Photo of Wisconsinality
3.68/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to kk73 for this one.

2010 vintage split and poured into tulip.

A- Pours a ruby red with a very small head. Completely transparent and no lacing left behind.

S- Some nice tartness and a slightly vinous. I also pick up some oak and a little bit of cherry.

T- Some nice vinous notes. Good amounts of oak and a small alcohol presence. Tart cherries round this one out.

M- Medium to lighter bodied with a dry finish. A bit tart but nothing major. Decent carbonation.

D- I don't really know what I was expecting of this but this wasn't it. The abv is fairly well hidden and has a nice balance. I am going to lay one down and see how it fairs.

Wisconsinality, Jan 27, 2011
Photo of Ghenna
3.8/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Label states best after 11/01/11, eh, it is a good thing I have 4 more bottles.

Pours a medium amber color with a bit of quickly disappearing off white head.

Smells: tart tart tart, acidic, sour cherries, malty smell in there too. A little boozy as it warms up.

Taste: Tart intensifies after a few seconds, harshens suddenly, then mostly disappears. Sour cherry is evident in the taste after a second in the mouth, and coasts through to leave a little of itself as aftertaste. As it warms I notice that that there was a good deal more malt sweet in the beginning, which becomes overtaken by the tart as it warms.

The beer defintely coats the mouth and is intense, but beyond a little residual sour cherry it doesn't stick around. The nature of sour beers makes it low in the area of drinkability.

This is a pretty nice beer for it being as young as it is and coming from a brewery that does not specialize in sours. The beer actually reminds me a lot of Russian River's Sanctification, their brett only beer, which is why at this young age it doesn't get a better score from me. Pure Brett, especially this young, is kind of harsh. It lacks the nuance I've experienced with RR's sours that make use of all three strands of sour yeasts- a bit of lactic acid would tame the tartness add a creamy mouthfeel. Still, I'm eager to try this again in a year or two.

Ghenna, Jan 24, 2011
Photo of olmatty
4.55/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance-Pours a deep, clear, orange amber with a low fizzy head that dissipates quickly.

Smell-Tart and acidic with a touch of oak barrel.

Taste-Beautiful, refreshing palate cleansing sour up front which gives way to the wine barrel flavor. A pleasant puckering effect with appropriate astringency at the very dry finish. Caramel nut malts are least prominent behind other favors. Overall this beer is not incredibly complex, but so good there's no need for lots of different things as what is there is so enjoyable.

Mouthfeel- Thin bodied, lively, palate washing, refreshing.

Drinkability- Alcohol is barely noticeable among the riot of flavor.

olmatty, Jan 20, 2011
Photo of madvermin
3.73/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Really a beautiful appearing beer, with all sorts of browns and reds in there along with an off-white head.

Smelled great too, with tartness, funk from the wild yeast, some earthy tones, and different berries (including cherries) prevalent.

The taste was good, but after having a couple of Russian River sours (which were also brewed with Brett), I think this could have been better. Sour start is not as cleanly tart as I would have liked, and it didn't meld fantastically with the cherries that came next. However, overall it did taste quite good, with the earth and booze going well together.

Had an average palate feel. Will re-rate if get a chance to taste an aged bottle.

madvermin, Jan 15, 2011
Photo of Donnie2112
4.28/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

poured into a chalice and then a champagne flute, the beer started with a light chill but has been allowed to rise to room temperature

tobacco colored and translucent with no head retention at all

very sweet on the nose, caramel with a hint of some mustiness and a slight aromas reminiscent of dark candied fruit like currants and cherries

It should be noted that this beer ought to be drunk at room temperature, it is too cloyingly sweet until it finds that sweet zone of warmth that brings out all of the nuances. Oh do they sing when you get the temperature up. And oh is it delicious, there are notes of caramel or molasses in the malts that roll into a smooth sourness it's hard to distinguished what is brett and what is sour cherry, the sour flavors make me think of green apples, cherries currants and pomegranate there is only enough of a bittering hop bitterness to help the beer to finish very clean along with a bit of peppery alcohol

Smooth, not overly oily, snappy carbonation helps this beer to pop, it reminds me of champagne a bit actually

HIGHLY refreshing and drinkable even though I'm drinking it at room temperature. This is some really interesting stuff!

Donnie2112, Jan 15, 2011
Photo of corby112
4.47/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From notes:

Pours a deep, dark ruby red/chestnut brown with mahogany edges and and a frothy 1.5 finger off-white head. Decent retention, slowly fading into a lasting ring. Minimal splotches of lacing left behind.

Wonderful earthy oak aroma with a subtle hint of vinegar as well as hits of tart cherry, dark berries, oak and vanilla.

Medium bodied with slightly funky tartness. Puckering but not too much so with no acidity. It's more sweet really with lots of vinous dark fruit. Hints of grape, dark cherry, raisin and plum. Well balanced with earthy oak and a prominent vanilla character. Complex, well balanced and very quaffable.

corby112, Jan 14, 2011
Photo of StormKing47
3.55/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared with cmurren25, Jwiss22, JayW73 and Lane23 at a little tasting, one of my favorite beers of my favorite style, but an interesting experience...

A- A nice and reddish brown color with an amber hue. Looks a little like exquisite Victorian furniture in a glass. Looks like cherry stained wood in a glass. Has a nice amount of carb with a thin off-white head.

S- Very subtle and faint tart cherries. A little surprising, but they are difficult to pick up. As it warms the aromas pick up. The nice and simple oaky aromas and melded well with the tart cherries and vanilla undertones. Also has a very subtle mustiness and nice lactic sour aroma. Very enjoyable.

T- Wow, a little let down. It opens up with a great acidic and strong lactic sourness with a slight tartness to finish. A little warming and the soft oak and vanilla subtleties come out and provide a great finish, but wait WHAT THE SHIT? NO CHERRIES! Damn I was robbed there is no sweet or tart cherries and this one has let me down a little.

M- A light coating with some syrupy qualities. A very good carb tingle with a nice lactic puckering, but no tartness to balance it out. Too much on the light side for this style.

D- It's light and refreshing, but not as complex as I would have liked. Has some nice aromas and looks awesome, but it is a work in progress and now I understand why they say to let some beers age.

I have had the pleasure of tasting an '08 vintage and it is mind blowing. This was a shell of what it can be, a good beer, but definitely LET IT AGE!!!!

StormKing47, Jan 12, 2011
Photo of GilGarp
4.38/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2010 reserve. Best after 11/01/11 but I'm choosing to have it 01/11/11. Who cares?

The wax is pretty but a struggle to get off. The cap congradulates me with the words 'bravely done' printed on the inside.

Served cool into my Watou goblet, the Dissident is a glowing golden red color with just a slight haze. The head is fizzy and settles quickly, no lace.

The aroma is sweet and sour with promisses of sour cherries and brett yeast. A little vanilla comes through too.

The flavor is really nice - a perfectly blended combination of mild Belgian brown ale and a sour cherry lambic. Tart without being puckeringly so and a really nice balance of sweet, sour, tart, and bitter. Probably in that order too. It finishes pretty dry as the alcohol evaporates off the tongue. The only hint of it's strength being in the gentle warming of my chest.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with just enough carbonation to get by. Good balance and almost no evidence of it's high alcohol content.

Not as intense as I expected (or as some may have hoped) but it's a very drinkable 10.5% sour ale. One worth having now and saving away for years to come.

GilGarp, Jan 12, 2011
Photo of yemenmocha
4.22/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours slightly hazy amber with very thin head. Barnyard on the nose, maybe a resemblance to some funky cheese. Big sweet and sour on the palate with cherry qualities but also wild with all those yeast influences. Long sour finish. Again, more cherry.

yemenmocha, Jan 11, 2011
Photo of Elendinn
4.15/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 vintage, poured into my Deschutes snifter.  Love the artwork on the bottle.

Pours a gorgeous rusty-copper/reddish-orange with a thin ring of off-white head, a modicum of lacing, and noticeable plumes of carbonation.

The smell is rather faint and requires an unusual amount of olfactory attention, though what I'm able to discern is definitely pleasing. Brett is dominant, with wood, tart cherries, grapes, and berries rounding it out.

The taste follows suit, but is decidedly more powerful. Not as sour as Supplication, nor as sweet as La Folie, The Dissident occupies a realm somewhere in between. The flavors are well-balanced and surprisingly complex, with additions of red wine, port, apples, and spices; finishes dry with hints of bready yeast.

Very carbonated and medium-bodied. Crisp and refreshing.

Because it strikes a balance between the overtly-sour and the atypically-sweet, it is easily drinkable and suitable for either a warm summer's day or a frigid winter's night. A very solid sour, especially for the price, though, for the moment, lacking a bit in complexity. I expect great things from the Dissident with a couple of years on it.

Elendinn, Jan 09, 2011
Photo of STEG
3.95/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A special thanks to johndoe8 for this one.

Pours a clear iced tea color into a southern tier pumpking goblet head rises quickly and goes away just as fast.

Smell has brett, vanilla, black cherry, and a deep earthy wood undertone.

Taste is more of the same, up front you're hit immediately with the barrel flavors and then quickly after, the sour cherry, and ends with a lingering brett and darkfruit aftertaste.

Mouthfeel is thin with lively carbonation, very close to soda.

I'm happy with the bomber, can't say i'd drink 2 of these one right behind the other but it's certainly not a chore to drink. Alcohol heat is nonexistant.

STEG, Jan 09, 2011
Photo of beertunes
3.63/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

2010 version. Poured into 10oz glass. Poured a clean, clear reddish brown with just a thin ring of khaki head that had no retention or lacing. The aroma was slightly sour with a hint of cherries, or other stone fruit, and just a whisper of grains.

There was a more noticeable taste of fruit and grain on the tongue. There was some sourness, but not as much as I was expecting. The body was far too thin, I want a Bruin to be full-to-heavy. Drinkability was nice, I shared a 22 with a friend and we could have easily drank another.

Overall, a very nice, but not great, brew. If you can grab a bottle go ahead, but don't knock yourself out trying to get one.

Edit 1/19/11: Just tried this on tap and it was a bit more sour than the bottle, but I still found this years version to not be up to level established by the first release.

beertunes, Jan 06, 2011
Photo of leedorham
4.78/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

A - poured into a tulip. Brownish red with an off-white head.

S - Acidic to the nose with the cherries definitely present.

T - Tart but not too tart. Sour, sweet, and bitter intermingle perfectly.

M - Quite full bodied with some acidity on the tongue.

D - This is a great addition to a meal or as a standalone experience.

I enjoyed this beer quite a lot. Sad that I don't have much left but looking forward to trying it again in a year.

leedorham, Jan 04, 2011
Photo of hardy008
4.55/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Dark amber to light copper color with a 3 finger off white head, which has good retention, and leaves some lacing. The aroma has tart cherries, green apple, and Brettanomyces.

The flavor has more sweetness than I expected from the aroma. Tart cherries, green apples, Brettanomyces, vanilla, bread, and caramel are all present in the flavor. The combination of flavors makes for an interesting balance of tartness and sweetness. Very nice.

Medium bodied, creamy, medium carbonation, and finishes dry. The alcohol is extremely well hidden. This is a wonderful and complex beer. I am glad I have one more bottle to age. I recommend this beer highly.

hardy008, Dec 31, 2010
Photo of Beaver13
3.68/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle. Pours a clear red amber with a thin creamy off white head that leaves some lacing.

The aroma is acidic and tart, slightly sweet, cherries.

The flavor is acidic and sweet cherries with a bitter, musty, slightly medicinal aftertaste. The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with smooth carbonation.

Overall, it's a solid fruity sour. I'd prefer a little more sour or brett and less of the weird aftertaste.

Beaver13, Dec 31, 2010
The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
93 out of 100 based on 970 ratings.