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The Dissident - Deschutes Brewery

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BA SCORE
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995 Ratings
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Ratings: 995
Reviews: 425
rAvg: 4.2
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 925
Gots: 424 | FT: 32
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Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  11.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012

(Beer added by: MisterClean on 08-19-2008)
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Photo of alleykatking
4.22/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 22oz bottle. Many thanks go out to mjl21 for this one. Mike...you rock!

A- Poured a coppery/deep reddish color. One finger light tan head that has some good retention. Streaky lacing all over the glass as I drank this goodness down!

S- Nice calm cherries upfront in this. Some light oak notes clash with a bit of vinegar funk. I also detect some malty sweetness that I've come to love with Flanders.

T- Cherries upfront in this that make it both tart (not overly so) and sourness. Overall this beer is not very sour...the vinegar flavor does come and go through the entire sip though. Light spices and no real oak flavor to this at all. Alcohol in the backend is very light and surprised me as I expected a little more kick with it.

M- Medium mouthfeel. Carbonation is good for the style I thought, if anything maybe a little light. Drying on the palate with each sip. Light cherry flavors left on the palate with some sweetness and light sour notes in the aftertaste. Flavor was a little subdued but I expected that from what I have heard. Nice blend in flavors overall. Clean tasting for the style.

D- This is drinking very well right now. I would love to score another bottle of this and just let it set another year or so. Have a feeling some of the cherry flavor died down reading past reviews. Overall, I could drink a lot of this the way it is now.

Photo of anchordrinker
4.5/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2008 Vintage, Review from notes written on 5-1-10

A- Orange-red, with thin, off-white head. Good lace.

S- Sour cherries, sharp-vinegar-y, tart green apple, berries.

T- Vinegar-y, slight tart granny smith, sour cherries, lemon rind, with very dry finish.

M- Medium body, effervescent/tingling carbo.

D- Incredibly quaffable, especially for a 9% brew. Sourness does not compromise drinkability at all.

Note: I've had this beer younger and I think this age (approximately 2 years) is pretty perfect.

Photo of GbVDave
4.15/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a oxblood colored wax sealed 22oz bomber into a Struise tulip. Extra special thanks to brokenleadedcask for this from our first trade at DLD '09. Been sitting on this for a year.

2008 release
Label marked: 234 08 1553

A: Pours a clear deep orange/ruby color that's capped by about one finger of creamy light tan head. The head sticks around for a while and leaves quite a bit of lace. Carbonation is very active.

S: Earthy aromas of sour cherries, moist oak, sweet malt, vinegar, and tart and tangy orchard fruit.

T: Pretty close to the aroma with the addition of some spicy oak, spicy fruit, and just plain spice. Alcohol flavor is non-existant.

M: Fantastic amount of spiciness. Prickly and dry with just about the perfect ratio of tart, tangy, and sweet.

D: Not sure if sitting for over a year has helped this but The Dissident is an excellent Flanders. Very rich, spicy and fruity with a layer of maltiness that keeps things very interesting.

Photo of womencantsail
4/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The pour is a dark amber/copper color with a minimal off-white head that has minimal retention.

S: A mild vinegary aroma as you might expect from a Flanders Red/Brown, along with a bit of oak and a mix of sour cherries and malty sweetness.

T: The cherry flavor is more pronounced and provides a balance of sweet and tartness. The vinegar character is moderate and overall the beer is not that sour for the style, nor is the oak all that present.

M: The body is medium with a smooth and somewhat light carbonation.

D: Not my favorite Flemish sour, but a decent representation. Only lightly sour, but a decent balance of sweetness and tartness.

Photo of jdklks
4.68/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark orange/amber color with a small white head that dissipates quickly but leaves a ring of little bubbles around the edges of the surface. What a fantastic smell! It only gets marked down because it isn't as strong as I would like it to be. Lots of sweet fruitiness, including cherries, apricot, strawberry, and figs. Also a hint of vanilla and oak.

Wow. What an amazingly complex beer. Super tart up front with a lot of fruit sweetness through the middle, followed by some caramel and some oaky vanilla in the finish/aftertaste. Almost exactly what you'd expect from the smell, only better, because, well, it's the taste. Some alcohol burn in the finish and aftertaste, and perhaps a little yeasty, but overall, a fantastic brew.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and could be a little better carbonated, but no real complaints. Nothing wrong with the drinkability aside from the ABV.

Deschutes' reserve series continues to kick so much ass.

Photo of Stigs
4.22/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz bottle marked as 2008 reserve, BA user JohnGalt1 sent me this a bit back in an awesome box...served in a Stone Levitation glass

A - poured a huge amount - at least three inches of light tan colored foam, frothy and bubbly. the beer is a bold amber color, clear with a small amount of active bubbling in the glass. falling at a decent pace, leaving spots of lace all over.

S - filled the room when poured...slightly sour and acidic...fruity, cherries, apricot. some vinegar, balanced by sugar cane sweetness, vanilla. a tiny bit of alcohol creeps in, reminiscent of cherry cough syrup. oak is there but very subtle near the end. really opening up as it warms and settles, sourness bumped up a notch while some yeast joins in and the oak comes alive.

T - starts of a bit mellow, missing that big sour/tart punch of a lot of beers of this style. meshes nicely into a somewhat complex brew...slightly sour black cherries, caramel, red grapes, oak, nuts. sourness kicks in and vanishes in a flash, just slightly tart. bits of yeasty funk here and there, which grows as it warms. aftertaste is slightly vinegary, turning into dried fruits.

M - quite subtle carbonation, quite nice and lets the other characteristics do the talking. a bit creamy, but turns quite dry on the swallow. leaves the mouth feeling quite prickly and dry, begging for the next sip.

D - a very subtle and complex Oud Bruin, not flashy by any means (maybe the age had something to do with this?). quite drinkable, would go great with some earthy or slightly funky cheese. at and ABV of 9%, a bit dangerous as it is completely undetectable. really impressed with how much it is changing over the past 15 minutes, opening up and growing. fantastic beer.

Photo of DmanGTR
4.35/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review from notes on 1/30/10. A gigantic thank you to Homebrew42 for bringing this to the tasting. This was one of the highlights of the night.

A - Clear as crystal, burnt orange, a nicely formed off-white head, leaves lacing all around. 4.5

S - Cherry tartness, funky sourness. Layers of complexity here. I get different degrees of sourness, maybe some earth and citrus and malt as well. This is very nice. 4.5

T - Lovely caramel and a huge sour cherry kick. Very nice indeed, there's a touch of vanilla in there as well. 4.5

M - Medium bodied, well carbonated. 4.0

D - Oh quite drinkable. Someone please send me another bottle! 4.0

Photo of stawn
4.33/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2008 vintage on draft at Churchill's.

A - Brought to my table in a snifter with an inch of creamy off white head. Ruby, copper in color leaving layers of noticeable lace with each sip.

S - Smell is of mild funk, bits of sweet tart and caramel

T - Taste is surprisingly mild, yet intensely complex. Slightly tart followed by apricot and caramel. Finishing very creamy with multiple flavors dancing on your tongue.

M - I didn't have this fresh, so I can't compare, but after a year and a half this is a very mellow, creamy delicious creation.

D - As a fairly recent n00b to sours, this could easily be a gateway beer to the style. Very mild, yet intriguing with every sip. I'd like to have this again...and again

Photo of ffejherb
4.28/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Chris from Ebenezer's for sharing this bomber with our table on 2/27/10.

A - Poured a hazy deep orange/copper-colored body with a quarter inch beige head that receded into a thin ring, leaving spotty lace around the glass.

S - Barnyard and band-aid notes with a moderate sourness and lots of fruity esters... and lots of Brett character.

T - Fruity and sour but not over-the-top at all. Funky sour notes mingle with a slightly tart fruity character. The Brett presence is really quite noticeable and provides a complexity that is really very enjoyable.

M - Medium body with an acidic character and not overly dry. Finish has a slight smoothness for the style, which was surprising.

D - These kinds of beers are definitely hit or miss with me, but I found this one to be quite enjoyable. All of the components worked really well together to create a balanced and drinkable brew. Thanks for sharing, Chris!

Photo of Slatetank
4.2/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I had this at Ebenezer's Pub 22oz bomber served cool in a taster - Thanks Chris!

A - A deep hazed bronze w/ red highlights and ecru cap w/ tiny bead + a goodly amount of lace clings

S - The aroma of funk and fruit is strong - light cherry notes w/ a slight red grape skin hint and notes of bitter orange w/ slight grassy odor

M - A dry funked up texture which is phenolic and slightly astringent w/ mild carbonation - the feel has juiced and spiced elements w/ wildness very prominent in the mix and the finish is mildly tannic

T - A mild cherry flavor is noted as lots of brett greets the tongue and has a slight medicinal taste followed by biscuit and grapeskin elements w/ slight stone fruit weaving in and out w/ flavors that overlap w/ a hint of caramel malt as it finishes

D - A great wild ale, it has a nice balance of brett, fruit and subtle bitterness w/ the malt not being forgotten and making the experience pleasurable

Photo of slaintemhor
4/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I recently had a bottle of this which I found at a store this past January (2010) in Anchorage, AK when I was attending the GABBWF. I was quite surprised to find it as I haven't seen it in my native Oregon since it was released! The colour was a ruby-amber with no head. The aroma was both funky and fruity and nicely balanced between the two. On the palate it was quite tart, dry and musty with plenty of stone fruit flavours and a bit of horse blanket to round it all out.

Photo of twiggamortis420
4.88/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Thanks to russpowel for this gem, 2008 vintage. Pours a fairly clear, light crimson color with a large-bubbled, fluffy tan head. Retention is fairly poor, but not altogether unexpected for a 9% sour.

Nose is of rotting wood, assuming from some brett along with some cranberry and red apple fruitiness. Has a very pleasing sweet/sour balance. Smells great.

Pretty authentic flanders here, Deschutes has done a great job as usual. Sourness and vinegar aspect of the beer is pretty sharp and has a nice bite. Sour cherry and cranberry fruitiness is well done and does not go overboard. I could see this one would not age well over extended periods of time as the vinegar aspect of the beer would start to overwhelm. From the taste of it, seems 2 years is just about right. There is even a touch of hop presence, giving it a little North American feel. The rotting wood character that was prevalent in the nose is more in the background on the palate. The ABV is ridiculously well hidden, cant even taste it. I could easily drink a whole bomber to myself and still might crave some more. Excellent beer, I really dig it. Goes well with Craisins and soft chevre goat cheese.

Photo of ppoitras
4.22/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz bottle obtained via Growling at the Moon from swnicholson. Thanks for the opportunity.

Poured into a Harpoon tulip, formed a 1 1/2" beige head over the cloudy reddish copper brew. Head continues to grow for awhile before slowly starting to fade, with chunky lacing. Aroma is bubblegum and tart cherries. Taste starts sweet, has a powerful tartness in the middle, and a lightly smoky clean close. Mouthfeel is effervescent, and drinkability is good also. Very impressed with how the sour stays in the middle, and doesn't dominate the entire flavor experience.

Photo of pwsoldier
4.18/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to dajtai007, who gave this to me as a Christmas gift.

'08 Vintage

A - Slightly cloudy mahogany with a modest off-white head. Head retention is very good and lacing is moderate.

S - Barnyard funk is front and center, accompanied by tart notes of dark fruit, especially dark cherry and apple.

T - Funk dominates up front, creating an earthy flavor profile that carries over into the finish. The funk is quickly joined by sour notes of cherry, apple, and white grape. Some subtle citrus hop flavors come in as well, especially grapefruit. The overall flavor profile remains sour, however, and becomes more so as it warms.

M - Full-bodied with an earthy and slightly chewy feel.

D - Very easy to drink despite high abv. The sourness is assertive, but not overbearing. This would be a great starter beer for someone who's new to sours/wilds. Overall, a very enjoyable and well-done beer.

Photo of CrellMoset
4.28/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The Dissident, courtesy of dkachur, enjoyed at the January C'ville tasting. Poured in to a snifter.

Appearance: A slightly hazed, deeply dark amber-hued body showcases minimal carbonation and a solid finger of head that has average retention - lightly tanned, and yielding a good solid sheen of foamy lace and a good collar of dense, erratic, foam. The lacing is impressive, with average to above-average coverage of the sides of the glass, all dry and sheetlike on the "non-sip" sides of the glass and (though runnier) clingy enough on the sip side.

Aroma: Oud Briun-tastic. Mildly sour and mildly sweet, showcasing both a moderate amount of acetic/lactic sweetness and a moderate amount of brown sugar, dark toffee, and caramel. It's a sweet and sour assault (probably with about twice the amount of sour as sweet, though), but with a few other complexities. The fruits bear a little more developing, discussed below.

Taste: Strong acetic and mildly lactic sourness melds expertly with a heavy, heavy toffee underpinning. The sourness is bold, a little heavy in a good way, showcasing cherries, apples, and a few surprises - kiwis, and perhaps banana. The one downside - perhaps - is that this one comes across as a little shallow at points, as if the sweetness and the sourness are disjointed in some way. Nonetheless, it's a marvelous pairing.

Mouthfeel: The best aspect of this beer. Even , smooth, wonderful, with an even amount of cleansing acidity and sweet, crisp effervescence. At its worse, it's smooth and sweet and mildly carbonation, but at its best, it's a crisp, bright, and complexly cleansing mouth. In essence, the carbonation works regardless of the flavors you're getting at that time (note: this brew got wildly different reviews during our tasting, with many people picking up flavors no one else got), and the flavor you're getting at that time can work regardless of the carbonation you get out out his brew or of how long it's sat around on the table.

Drinkability: A very well crafted brew, complex, and surprisingly balanced. I know (despite not having too many examples of it) that this is a style that's hard to pull off, and so I have to give kudos to Deschutes for putting together a great brew. 9.0% is high, but not astronomically so, and though this one came at the end of the evening for us - this was a fairly epic tasting - it was still drinkable enough that I neglected to leave any in the snifter.

Photo of Proteus93
4.28/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Rather foggy brown, though more on the rusty red side.

S + T: Funky, peppery, hay scented, and rather citrus at the same time. Taste is about the same, withe a little fruitiness on the palate. between grape and cherry.The tartness stands out a gerat deal, but fruity notes do seem to come across a little heavy.

M + D: Medium bodied, well carbonated and semi-dry. The carbonation takes from the dryness on the palate, and it could help to be a little dryer in that sense. Overall, a well-balanced brew.. sour, rich, and intense.. Very well done.

Photo of Mora2000
4.33/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of thirdeye11.

Pours brown with an off-white head. The aroma is a mix of vinegar and very tart cherries. Definitely a very good aroma. The flavor is also heavy on the cherries with some funk as well. It is definitely a sour beer, but not as sour as the aroma led me to believe it would be. You also get some oak and vanilla in the flavor. Medium to high carbonation and very drinkable.

Photo of hooliganlife
4.43/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

vintage 2008

pours mahogany brown and red with a light cream head. nice retention.

lots of vinegar with light hints of merlot and sour cherry. the scent alone makes my lips pucker.

lots of cherry, lots! not nearly as tart as the scent but very flavorful. cherry mixes well with light oak and light vanilla. a bit creamy. this really has mellowed out. maybe a hint of vinegar.

very creamy, medium to light carbonation and a bit dry.

too good and too easy to drink. not hint at all of the 9% ABV. hands down the best cherry flavor i have ever had.

Photo of mjl21
4.43/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2008 version. 22 ounce bottle poured into a tulip. Comes in at 9%.

A-Pours a really interesting brownish-red color. It has a one and a quarter finger off white head that collapses to nice encrusting foamy layer. It has lots of active bubbles and leaves some nice lace.

S-Really nice sour/tart nose. Sour cherries are there, but not as strong as when it was originally released. Also notes of oak and detectable vinegar.

T-It is not mouth puckering when it first hits. There is a definite sour cherry flavor throughout. The sourness hits more towards the end of each sip. There is some evident sweet malt from the base beer along with some funk. Oak flavor lasts in between each sip.

M-Medium bodied and extremely crisp and dry from a lot of fizzy carbonation.

D-The abv is well hidden. Tasting good 16 months after it was first released.

As noted above, this beer has begun to lose some of its initial cherry flavor and has balanced out nicely. Really looking forward to the next batch in 2010.

Photo of RustyDiamond
4.83/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2008 edition. Poured into the last glass that I was offered this fine beer during SF Beer Week- Jupiter/Triple Rock snifter.
Cherry red brown in appearance, with a smallish off white head. Held up to the light, this reminds me of a 12 year Pappy Van Winkle glass. Very striking.
Musky aroma, cherry, just right. A little oak, a little whiff of cow poo and wet hay.
Tart up front with a nice smooth transition into a little sour. Just right with a little dryness. Chunk of Brett stings the tongue. All the components of an exceptional take on a classic style. Oak and sour lingering on the palate, dry and nice.
Slow and long sippper...as good as it gets.

Photo of brentk56
4.72/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a cloudy russet color with a thick head that retains exquisitely and sheets the tulip with lace

Smell: Tart cherries, oak, green apple, peaches and a hint of vanilla

Taste: Fresh peaches, up front, though it is just a moment before the tart cherry and green apple flavors arrive to overwhelm the palate; the oaky aspect figures into the profile before the swallow, but what ensues is a surprisingly sweet character and yeasty funk (vanilla included) that lingers underneath the sour flavors

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate, but prickly carbonation; somewhat creamy, nevertheless

Drinkability: An outstanding achievement by the brewery - not previously known for their sours

Note: I preferred the 2008 to the much boozier 2010, which was a bit overwhelming

Photo of Ineedabeerhere
4.08/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had this a couple times since the release and still have a bottle in the cellar, but this review is from notes on 10/2.

Pours brownish with burnt orange and ruby highlights shining through. The acidity of this beer prevents a good head formation.

Aroma opens with a sharp acidity, red wine vinegar. The cherries seem to have faded a bit since the last time I had this, but still lend a nice fruit note. Spicy esters and vanilla-wood.

Taste is highly acidic. Medium complexity. Vinegar notes are abundant. Low yeast character. Some spiciness and vanilla oakiness.

Prickly medium-high carbonation, starts sour and finishes with a spicy bite. Great drinkability considering its ABV and high acidity, although I'm a bit biased for beers of this style. I liked this better fresh because the fruitiness of the cherries helped to balance out some of the acidity.

Photo of Ezekiel81923
4.22/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Got this one in a trade with EliottJW. Thanks again! Poured into my Troegs pint glass.

Appearance: Ruby red with a big brownish head. Head lingers and never fully disappears. Left some lacing in its wake.

Smell: Big oak and cherry aroma's. Tart. Vinegar.

Taste: Might be the most sour beer I've had so far, at least at the start. As it warms the tartness subsides considerably and a mellow sweetness comes forward, intertwined with a dark fruit character that tastes mostly of cherry's. A little funk mixed with the sourness.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with what I'd call medium carbonation. This beer finishes with more of a velvety smoothness than other Oud Bruin's I've had, but I like it. Flavors linger instead of the tartness, which is also different but enjoyable.

Drinkability: No hint of the 9%. If you can survive the initial blast of sour and funk at the beginning, the rest of the slightly warmer bottle is a delight.

Great beer. So glad I started trying sours beers.

Photo of MrFootstones
4.13/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Amber with ruby highlights when held up to the light. Light tan head of about half a centimeter, with light foam sticking around for a while

S- Vinous, with dark fruit, soft oak, and a light tartness.

T- Much better than last time I tried it, about 8 months ago. The taste is also very wine-like. The cherries seem to have receded into the rest of the flavors to add complexity rather than in-your-face cherry-ness. There is rounded vanilla/buttery (not diacetyl) oak, dark juicy fruits, and a faint tartness. A bit of raw oak lingers in the finish. Not a sign of the relatively high ABV.

M- Rich and smooth, but still carbonated. This is quite nice, and suits the beer well.

Drinkability- The way I see drinkability is not "can I drink a few of these" but do I enjoy the time drinking it, or am I forcing the last of it down (like I did with my 1/3 of the bottle of Bourbon Angel's Share I split). This beer is not even close to a chore to polish off.

Overall, I am glad I saved a bottle this long, and wish I had another. I really did not enjoy the last bottle I cracked, so if you've been holding on to these and have a few, now is a great time to break that wax.

Photo of jrallen34
3.2/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I drank this from a 22 oz bottle into a rochefort glass.

The beer is a watery amber, brown with red highlights. The head is light brown rises about a finger but fades quickly leaving light carbonation on the rim of the glass. The lacing is very weak.

The aroma is medium in strength, represting some nice sour notes. There are light blackberries, vinegar and oak. Vinegar dominates the most.

The taste is much to light for my liking. There are very small vinegar and sour notes, but mostly I taste tea. There is an unpleasant funky sour after taste.

The beer is heavy and full and sticks to your mouth for several seconds.

This is not very drinkable. I could probably drink a bottle if I split it with someone but this would be the last time I'd drink this. I would not search this out or recommend getting it unless your a big time sour fan and just want to try it.

The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
94 out of 100 based on 995 ratings.