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The Dissident - Deschutes Brewery

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

995 Ratings
THE BROS
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world-class

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Ratings: 995
Reviews: 425
rAvg: 4.2
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 925
Gots: 424 | FT: 32
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Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  11.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012

(Beer added by: MisterClean on 08-19-2008)
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Photo of DIM
4.5/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

a: This was a very pretty ruby color with some coppery highlights. It poured with a long lived, sticky, and fizzy light tan head.

s: Beautiful, but hard to describe. Tart fruity aromas of rhuhbarb, lemon and apple cider vinegar. Also, some damp, earthy hay blanketed by gentle warmth.

t: Difficult to describe and I just want to enjoy this one, so I'll be general. The funk is there, but it isn't all that harsh. I didn't even get heartburn. The abv is extremely well masked and there is subtle something sweet that works really well. Because of my lack of experience, I can't speak to the authenticity of this offering. I can just say I loved it.

m: Chewy and big bodied with carbonation that lasted the entire hour and a half.

d: Big thanks to stellar JohnGalt1 for this gem. What an extraordinary beauty form the PNW. Thanks again Toby!

Photo of zeff80
4.1/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a clear, copper/rust color with a thick, foamy, white, one-finger head. It left a little soapy lace.

S - It smelled funky and of horse blanket. It had a light toasted caramel aroma, too.

T - It had a mellow yeasty quality and the funkiness builds with a nice caramel malt backbone.

M - It was very sharp and crisp with a very dry finish. A medium-bodied beer.

D - This is a pretty good brew. I've never had this style, but I've enjoyed it.

Photo of donkeyrunner
4.3/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Cloudy, grapefruit rind ruby color. Thin off-white head with swirly retention and moutain silhoutte sticky lace. Due to the wax seal, this beer was a sonovabitch to open.

Smells sour...like my socks after I run a marathon sour. Also, Yankee Candle holiday candles, gingerbread and clove. I'm kind on the fence about the aroma: I'm pretty sure it's supposed to smell sour, but should some one really make a beer that smells like socks?

Tastes sour but not obnoxiously so. Gingerbread sweetness and Djarum Black clove cigarettes almost balances out aforementioned sour.

Overall, one of the most interesting beers I've had in awhile.

Photo of SPLITGRIN
4.1/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark mahogany body sits regal in the glass. Hosts a bread crust colored speckled deep tan head that stands at an inch and fades in a minute. Nose is very attractive with tones of sweet, tart cherries, doughy yeast and dark fruit resins. Keeps with that yeasty feel as you take first sip followed by an initial sweet tart tingle on the tongue. The tart feel turns slightly vinegary but still nice. The sour feel stays on the back of the tongue and creates a mouthfeel of sour dry bitter. Almost turns to a citrus bitter on the back of the tongue. Drinkability is good.

Photo of errantnight
3.9/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Welcome to the wonderful world of... American Wild Ales vaguely crafted in the style of Flanders Reds/Brunes. Whatever this wants to be called, it's both a fine introduction, and also (I hope) a work in progress.

From an appearance and aroma standpoint, there's really nothing to improve on. A heady pour (finger plus) of relatively thick foam with solid organic lacing, relatively tenacious head with solid retention, hazy but luminscent, a beautifully muted amber (toward brown) that looks luscious and not tepid or dirty.

Aroma brings a solid perfume of sharp, sour fruit, deep funk (a bit of cat pee), vinegar and cherry. Great stuff.

And in fact, at first glance, the taste follows through. There's some early palate toasty, caramel malt sweetness that gives way to cherry sour, dry and tannic. Nice effervescence. There's a hint of alcohol late. The problem is that it's lacking a back palate, and what's there sits as an off, metallic bitter sourness that is mildly unpleasant. It's relatively clean, but too much minerality to this makes it feel hard. It seems to have more in common with Supplication in terms of body as opposed to the richer, sweeter Duchesse, or Liefmans, but it doesn't have the complexity of sourness of Russian River beer, I wonder if this is solidly lactic sourness I'm tasting and not the more aggressive pedio which I perceive as a more lemony, sharp sour note that hits earlier.

It's relatively clean (for a funky beer), properly built, gorgeous to look at and inhale, with no significant flaws... but it's in need of refinement. That said, considering the exploding price points of American Wild Ales, it's nice to see a brewer not start ramping up to the 15-30 dollar range before they've mastered the art (in that price range I still only trust Russian River, domestically, for wild ales... although I still end up buying others). Here's hoping each subsequent release pushes this beer from simply good to the realm of the truly great.

Photo of goethean
4.43/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2008 vintage tasted at 58F. Pours into my wine tasting glass a beautiful red copper with a nice foamy head. Mild funky sour malt aroma. Delicate body is appropriate to style, but surprising to me, as I usually prefer more 'extreme,' big-bodied beers. Flavor is sour, malty and mildly funky, all three harmoniously merging together. Finishes dry, but no hops bitterness, flavor or aroma are detectable. There is a slight weird smoky or chocolate flavor towards the end. Overall, a sipping beer with the complexity and interest of a fine wine.

Photo of pokesbeerdude
4.35/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Extra special thanks goes out to JohnGalt1 for this one in a trade. Thanks man!

A: Deep red/light brown with a tan head, about half an inch thick. Excellent head retention. Tons of bubbles flowing up through the beer. Pretty fair lacing, nothing remarkable though. Quite an attractive beer.

S: Sour funk, apples, pepper, oak barrels, and red wine, very tart smelling, lots of funk, and sourness. I'm really thinkin this one is going to be wild all around. Roses, and sour floral accents as well.

T: Raisins, and sour funk, lots and lots of funk, tart berries, cinnamon, plums, um...lots of fruit notes. Not nearly as sour as I had expected, but its right up there. Lots of funk, slightly medicinal, really tasty, not quite the best sour I've ever had, but it is quite tasty.

M: Low carbonation, quite dry, nice puckering factor, and slight amount of booze burn when going down. Not too shabby at all.

D: Dangerous. At 9% this one could easily land one in trouble. I'm quite impressed with this beer, and hope to get my hands on another bottle soon. Excellent sour beer, but I wouldn't recommend it as a first sour.

Thanks Toby!

Photo of Sammy
3.7/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured reddish, not too thick. An aroma of spit and bacteria. Initially, the sourness well controlled by malt. Decent mouthfeel for a sour. Drinkable over a meal, tastes somewhat of a wild ale that builds up in the mouth over repeated sips.Intersting and worth seeking out.

Photo of sonicdescent
4.2/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a nice brown with a foamy head that disappears quickly.

Smells great, funky sour cherry lemon goodness.

Tastes of funk and Brett. Very light oak and fruit hints. Similar to a less fruity red poppy. More apple comes out as it warms. There is no trace of the alcohol content.

Mouth is medium in body and carbonation.

An excellent drink and dare I say my favorite from
Deschutes this far.

Photo of bum732
3.85/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a nice reddish brown, decent bubbly head leaving great lacing. Smells of caramel, red wine vinegar, some barnyard funkiness, cherries, rasberries, alcohol. Tastes of mild fruity sourness up front followed by an earthy almost woody finish. Lots of lemony sourness, but not too much. Lots of flavor up front with a very neutral finish. Good mouthfeel, great carbonation.

My first Flanders Oud Bruin, not bad, but not great. Especially compared to lambics and Flanders reds. There is nice flavor up front, but not much on the back end. Maybe thats par for the style. Still, a decent beer.

Photo of Phyl21ca
4.05/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a deep reddish color ale with large foamy head with great retention and great lacing. Aroma of oak and tart notes are clearly dominant with some light funk also discernable. Taste is also dominated by some oak notes with a tart taste with some lactic funky sour notes also noticeable. Good body with great carbonation with no apparent alcohol. While I really enjoyed the sourness and the oak notes I thought the funky yeast didn't integrated that well with the rest of the flavors. Still very good nonetheless.

Photo of abecall98
4.47/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had this baby on tap at Sac Brew

A - looked amber-like, with a very light head(poured into a 4 oz. taster).

S - Oh boy, this beer had such a sour sour smell, it made my mouth water. Excellent aroma. I could smell sour grapes, almost like a very rich fresh wine.

T - This beer is good. Very sour, very tart, tangy, and makes your lips smack. I could tell there are tons of flavors in this, I could not pinpoint them.

M - very acidic, and crisp. Just what you expect from a nice champagn, only from a very fine beer.

D - not sure if I could nurse a whole bottle, or even a pint of this baby. The sour is very strong, and I feel that after too much, would ruin the beer near the end. I will have to try it from a bomber and review that to see if I am right.

Deschuttes keepes bringing out amazing brews. Keep up the good work.

Photo of craytonic
4/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a dull dark amber with a large head.

Smell: Dark fruit, citric acid, oak, touch of vinegar - and a musk/dank element.

Taste: Lots of dark fruit and cherries with a nice sourness, a tannic element from the oak, a soft brown sugar & honey sweetness, and a hint of black currant. The oak/wine influence is huge, along with a touch of musk that somehow makes it seem old. Not really any wild funk, the wine, dark fruit, and cherries hold the torch.

Mouthfeel: Full, but light & crisp. Very sharp with good (not great) carbonation.

Drinkability: It is good and drinks well, but I was a little disappointed; I had hoped for more in terms of taste and sour. It was good but not worth the trouble of acquiring - but if it was sold locally I would grab a few. It could have been just a little bit more sour, and a tad less sweet. It is a very mellow sour. The ABV is hidden, had no idea it was 9%.

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I found the 2010 edition to much less flavorful and more watery than the 2008 edition and my score has decreased from 4.25 to 4.0

Photo of rhinos00
3.68/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Acquired this in a trade with Toby (JohnGalt1) a few months back. Thanks for the opportunity! 2008 vintage with a red waxed top. Poured into my Corsedonk tulip glass.

A- A mixture of red and brown hues give off a rust colored effect. Minimal half fingers width of white head forms and dissipate almost instantaneously.

S- Mildly pungent with a slight vinegar aroma. Little hints of acidic cherries, oak and wood are also prevalent.

T- I was expecting strong acidic, vinegar qualities but instead was greeted with something less. Initially there is a taste of sour cherries. As the beer develops in the mouth, vinegar qualities start to kick in, but never fully take on an acidic profile. It just seems to mellow out and give a slight sour twang, if you can even call it that. The beer finishes with a oak, wood flavor.

M- Medium bodied with super smooth qualities.

D- This one would have been more drinkable if it was more pronounced in flavor. The alcohol is virtually undetectable.

Overall, the oak flavor dominated and the sour, acidic profiles did not match the strength the nose led on to believe. The mellow flavors were just too weak and easily masked by the wood, oak flavors.

Photo of Scoobydank
4.2/5  rDev 0%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Gotta thank my boy Dyan for hooking me up, yet again.
L: Sharp poppin fizzy off white head 1/2 finger head. Dark beautiful ruby red with a touch of a brown tint. Clear with tiny bubbles constantly floating up.
S: Bright cherry with a nice sourness. Browned out caramel. Just a tiny touch of apple.
T: Sour aplles with a crip cherry. The sour is not over powering, it mixes in well with a touch of sweetness. A hint of wine peeks in and out. It finishes with a nice caramel flavor.
M: Thick and warm. Fat round bubbles slip into an aggressive tiny bubble frenzy.
D:Very cool beer. The sweet and sour continue ever after not having a sip for a few minutes. Very long lasting and memorable

Photo of funkinsk8
4.75/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I was excited to try this on tap. I've had it out of the bottle, and it was great. I'm a draft guy. I had a 5oz. pour in a small goblet.

A-slightly cloudy, very little head retention. No lacing at all.
Medium brown/light amber color

S-Very strong smells of oak and alcohol. Some fruit smells lurking in the background. Cherries? Raspberries? Both? Sweet and phenolic.

T-Complex wood character with a sour that isn't overpowering. The fruit on the nose really come out. Sourish to start with a mellow sweetness that kinda grows on you.

M-Coats your tongue and cheeks. You can still taste the sour fruits a full minute after you swallow. Full body feel with a light body taste if that makes any sense at all.

D-When i had it in the bottle it was 5 of us just barely getting a taste. This time I could have as much as I wanted. Although the 11% ABV comes through on the nose and in the taste I could have a pour before dinner and two after.
Delicious. Simply Delicious.

Photo of soccerman7
4.35/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Red, brown, mahogany notes. an off white head that disappeared fast. just gorgeous. great bottle presentation.

S - Apples, lemon, funk. Leather notes.

T - Very complex. Apple and wine notes give way to malt and leather, almost a faint chocolate character. really fantastic.

M - exceptionally smooth. the apple notes linger.

D - this is a fantastic sour. I only hold Consecration higher than this. Really worth seeking out.

Photo of Hojaminbag
4.38/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I got two bottles of this, one each from Skourtis and Wasatch. Thanks guys! Since I got the chance to try this at the Belgian Beer Fest I knew I would like it, so one is going to the cellar and the other is being consumed right now.

Took me awhile to pry the wax off of this one, but finally got it open and poured it into a tulip. A mahongey colored body with more red than brown in it. About two fingers of beiege head that doesn't seem to have a ton of retention, but leaves some sheets of lacing on the glass.

Some sweetness that is both malty and fruity. A touch of sourness and a little bit of oak.

Up front is a good dose of tartness and sourness that couples with a slight fruitiness. This combination brings sour cherries to mind. The middle is noticeably malty, with some light cereal and caramel notes, neither of which are especially strong or overpowering. The finish is where to oak flavors come through. Woody with a touch of vanilla to it. Aftertaste is a mix of sourness and wood. I swear there is a touch of bubble gum-type flavor in there too. A very good beer, just as I remember my 2oz sample being the first time I tried it.

On the heavy side of light bodied, but still pretty light. Highly carbonated, which works pretty well with this one. A quality mouthfeel.

This is a very drinkable beer. Tasty, sour, and balanced. Not as good as Red Poopy, but still a damn good oud bruin.

Photo of washburnkid
4.15/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I've been saving this beer for a few weeks now. I was so excited to try it, and I wasn't let down one bit. Poured into a tulip.

I usually don't comment on the presentation of a bottle, but this one is noteworthy. The mahogany double-layered wax seal and the tan with black shadow label was aesthetically pleasing.

A: Almost a finger of off-white, tan head that dissipates but only so much as to leave some froth here and there floating atop the beer. From top to bottom, the brew was copper, dark brown and red. Absolutely beautiful.
S: Sour fruits, like granny smith apples and other tart flavors paired with sweet malts. An incredibly inviting aroma.
T: Immediately sour, balanced out by sweet malts, including dark cherries and blackberries/raspberries. Reminiscent of a dark fruity lambic. Bitters gently touch the palate but can't overtake the dominant sweet/sour.
M: Medium body; balanced carbonation helps to emphasis the tartness.
D: The alcohol in this beer creeps up from behind. There are zero hop characteristics in this beer, which is an interesting change of pace. If you dislike lambics, you'll probably dislike this one. A very good and surprising beer for me.

Photo of Yetiman420
3.8/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Traded like heck to stock up on a couple of these bottles well after the release. Made for a higher level of anticipation.

Second opportunity to taste this. This time around had half a bottle to form an impression.

Unibroue tulip. Brown/red color with a head that appears a bit gray. Musty aroma.

Noticed cherry and raison sweetness flavor and aroma halfway through. Strange, overwhelmingly flavorful early finish - perhaps a bit too ripe. Hard to describe. Sweet and dry. I suspect and hope this one will benefit from aging.

Tartness and sweetness towards the very impacts drinkability to the minus.

Photo of colts9016
4.13/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a snifter at 48 degrees.

Appearance: A deep mahogany reddish brown color. There is a one finger head that dropped to a half finger. The head is billowy and frothy with an ivory color. The clarity of the beer is good and clear. There is lacing on the snifter glass.

Nose: A sour notes hits my nose, there is raisins, tarty cherries, oranges, and treacle. There is a malty earthiness to the beer with toffee like hints.

Taste: A malty sourness to the beer. There is raisins tarty cherries, oranges, and treacle. The beer has a very nice earthy with toffee and some sherry notes.

Overall: This is the first Flanders style beer I have tried. The beer has a pleasant sourness to the beer, but it is not vinegary. The mouth feel is a medium body with some sweetness and some tartness to the beer. The finish lingers on the palate and is surprisingly refreshing and tasty. The first sip of the beer I kinda puckered my face but it was only for a moment. I like this beer it is like a breath of fresh air.

Photo of BARFLYB
3.85/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2008 vintage wax dipped bottle recieved in a trade with Brotherliam. Thanks for the assist.

A- Deschutes Dissident pours out a rustic mix of red and brown bordering on burgundy. A nice 1 1/2 to 2 finger tan head rised up and left a decent amount of spotty patching around the glass. Pretty nice retention on the cap as I see a mass of bubbles rising to the top.

S- A lot of fruit in the nose up front with a nice amount of cherries, apples, ripe grapefruit and some lemon freshness. Oak is also apparent and upfront while the vinegar smell is not pronounced than in other versions of this style. Also getting some spices that I cannot place right now.

T- A nice mix of sweet and sour with spices added. A burst of the afformentioned fruits come in with the cherry and green apple taking the lead. A good amount of oak from the barrel is there and pleasant and creates a vanilla flavor as well. A bit of cinnamon among other spices, brown sugar as well. Dissident almost has a cider like quality to it. The spices in dissident is what sets it apart from others in this style.

M- Dissident is light to medium bodied with a fair amount of carbonation but nothing overboard. It is definatly present on the tounge but created a smooth texture. I'm not getting any of the 9% which is probably drowning in all those spices. This does have a nice tartness in the mouth as well, not to puckering though.

D- A 9% Flanders Old Bruin, I don't think i've ever had one this high in ABV for this style but I had no problem killing the bottle. Not the most balanced in this style, but this is the first generation bottling so maybe some kinks will be worked out for future releases. This one demands that you take your time with it as I did, nursing it for about two hours.

A great take on the style and i am interested to see how this one progresses.

Photo of Biggness
4.33/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours an orangy brown with a 1 fingered head and a decent amount of lacing. The smell is huge of sour. The taste has alot of sour mixed with a nice borwn ale. This was strange due to tasting the Russian river earlier where the oak flavor was nearly nonexistant, but this one you have a big brown ale flavor, must be tons of dark malts in this brew. A nice mouthfeel with a good carbonation level and a nicely drinkable brew.

Photo of jwc215
4.22/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to JWD, piclee and Bitterbill for each sending me a bottle!

22 oz. wax-capped bottle, poured into tulip glass.

Pours ruby brown with a tan head that descends to a thin cover that lasts through most of duration before becoming patchy. Some lacing sticks. Very nice colour.

The smelll is sweet and sour with a spicy breadiness and a slight herbal backing.

The taste is sweet and sour with a "wild" yeast touch, giving it a "funky" flair. Well-balanced, malty, yeasty, with a touch of mild herbal bitterness. Sweet caramel/toffee maltiness ties things together nicely. Alcohol well-covered. Finishes dry.

It has a creamy medium body.

A nice take on the style. Very drinkable. Enjoyable without being overpowering. Unique, yet "in-style".

Photo of TexIndy
4/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22oz bomber that I got from Ummagum. Was dipped in dark red wax. 2008 Edition. It was ruby red in color with some carbonation and no lacing. It had a small fizzy light beige head that quickly evaporated leaving nothing.

The aroma was very subtle. Oak, cherries, slightly earthy. What was there was good but very light. Would have liked a bigger punch. The taste was very similar to the aroma. What was there was good but again very subdued. Good oak and cherry backbone but missing the sour bite that I love in the style. Mouthfeel was good but again missing the sour bite.

Overall, a good beer that just misses on being great. Would like to try another as other reviews mention a good sour bite so possibly mine is off. Recommend but do go crazy getting it.

The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
94 out of 100 based on 995 ratings.