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The Dissident - Deschutes Brewery

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BA SCORE
93
outstanding

941 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 941
Reviews: 423
rAvg: 4.2
pDev: 10.71%
Wants: 877
Gots: 426 | FT: 30
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  11.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012

(Beer added by: MisterClean on 08-19-2008)
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magictrokini

California

4.4/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours hazy auburn with a short off-white head. I agree with Ernest, the wax cap nearly drove me insane trying to carve off enough to open the bottle. Aroma is malty, with funky cherries and earthy wood. Not like other sours. Smooth and warm cherry, malt, oak, and vanilla. When the sour comes, it is mellow. Mostly brett and cherries, but in a vinuous/sherry way. Drinks more like a liquer than a funky, sour pucker-bomb. Excellent beer.

Serving type: bottle

12-05-2008 23:19:41 | More by magictrokini
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rayjay

Hawaii

4.38/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Earth brown ale, firmly hazy yet clear. A beautiful but small pillow of clingy dense white foam rests on top and provides sharp visual contrast. Very nice but it needs more foam to qualify higher ;-)

Mellow funky aroma of infected beer, a barn of hay and horses, and dusty brown malt.

Tart and medicinal. Sticky but not very sweet. Woody, with lots of cool non-carmel specialty malts. Suggestions of sour cherries. Delicate soft water profile. The thickness softly speaks up but is overpowered by refreshment. Kind of like a sour candy the moment it just starts to fade and show sweetness (and minus the initial sour shock).

Carbonation is natural and light. It lends a slightly creamy mouthfeel.

Quite a great stab at the style, and drinking great at about 5 months after the release. I'm quite happy to drink it anytime.

I'm also delighted this style is being produced by more brewers these days. Its always been one of my favorites. Cheers!

Edit: Just noticed the alcohol content is 9%?? Drinks like a 5.5% abv beer (uh oh, I thought it was!)

Serving type: bottle

12-05-2008 07:23:14 | More by rayjay
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hellbilly

Arizona

4.18/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

huge whiff of fresh cherries as the top is popped...

pours crystal clear a red cherry-ish amber color with a one inch pale tan head.

initially lots of cherry in the aroma which fades to unveil metal, blood/iron/mineral, woody vanilla and cement-like bretty funk. it smells fairly sweet (for the style).

i get a lot of cinnamon flavor... along with ripe cherries, vanilla, caramel, toasted nuttiness and mineral-y bretty stink. there's a touch of malty sweetness to start. but, by the time the sip is over my tongue is dried off completely.... thanks brett! it's tart and sour but not overly on either. the aftertaste lingers long into the night as fresh cherries. alcohol does come into play as it warms the sinus and chest the same way wine does... it's quite pleasant. the medium body leans heavily on full. the carbonation gives it a creamy soft mouth feel which coats my mouth entirely yet it is spicy and prickly with a twangy kick.
8/3/8/5/16/4.0 we'll see...

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2008 05:25:42 | More by hellbilly
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charlesw

New York

4.65/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

So... It's not surprising, to me, that this took gold at gabf but the brute took silver. But, hey, that's me. First off... Thanks to mikesgroove for the opportunity to try this one! Mike... You rock!

Anywho...

This comes across as... As an approachable sour ale. As a great place to start drinking sour ales. As in, I see why this got the gold - it's because anyone can see what there is to enjoy in it. The Brute, if I can compare again, is something that you cannot approach until you've gained an appreciation for the sour style.

So, does approachable equal good? Well, it has the characteristics of a sour ale and yet remains well balanced and easily drinkable - even on this a wicked bitterly cold night. So, yeah. I'd have to say that it does equal good.

Serving type: bottle

12-03-2008 03:52:08 | More by charlesw
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djeucalyptus

Oregon

4.18/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a rich woody amber with light brown and caramel highlights. A sand colored thin head of fairly large bubbles rose up and receded quickly, leaving behind a nice bit of sticky oily lacing.

This one packs quite an aroma. Sour apples and sour cherries up front, receding to a more woody, almost oaky rich earthiness. Some spicing of cloves, cardamom and pink peppercorns add more depth, incase the funky sour yeast aroma wasn't enough.

Sweetness from the apples and cherries hits first on the tongue followed closely by an earthy astringent tartness of grapefruit pith and grapefruit seeds. Woody and green in the middle with some sap and maple notes, finishing with a sweet-sour tannin-like dry finish. Lots of stuff going on, and it verges on rough at time.

Mouthfeel is slick, verging on oiliness, with a definite syrupy sweetness present. Low carbonation still manages to deliver a prickly and tingly tannin bite as a result of the dryness. Personally, I'm loving the mouthfeel, though I can easily see how others aren't as pleased. Definitely unique, and possibly a bit unfinished.

Beautiful on the whole, and an amazing brew considering the relatively mainstream nature of Deschutes. A valiant effort that produced decent results. Not necessarily world class, and it tastes and feels like it could use a touch of work, but on the whole, it's impressive and I definitely look forward to cracking the other bottles.

Serving type: bottle

11-28-2008 19:26:29 | More by djeucalyptus
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rkuhnel

California

3.53/5  rDev -16%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Darn. I paid a lot for this ($10) and was really hoping for something really special. From the 22 oz bottle this poured a cloudy dark orange with a small off-white head and very little lacing. Nose was of sour cherry and vanilla. Mouthfeel medium and somewhat fizzy from what I assume is the carbonation. Flavor is of sour fruit and the finish is a bit acrid. Overall it was interesting, but I had a little trouble getting it all down. For me a bit of a disappointmentt. Maybe aged it would get better, but this is the only bottle I had and at this price probably the last.

Serving type: bottle

11-27-2008 03:38:53 | More by rkuhnel
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cswhitehorse

Oregon

4.03/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The Dissident poured a dark reddish brown with a 2 finger foam head that took off into a thin foam layer of tight tiny bubbles. It seemed to have thousands of bubbles flowing from the bottom like champagne. The aroma was of sour fruit and deeply roasted sugar.

The taste smooth and tart to the heart of the buds then softly dissipated. You really get the fruity esters and the taste of sour cherries in the drink. It is not abrasive at all which I thought it might be due to the funk-ness. It seems lightly bittered. You also get a tad bit of a beer that has been oak conditioned. A little bit of wood with this one. Overall a interesting beer that was worth the money.

Serving type: bottle

11-21-2008 04:43:17 | More by cswhitehorse
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gford217

Georgia

4.33/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz bomber poured into a snifter.

Pours a fairly clear copper red with a small creamy white head that lasts as a cap for the duration and leaves spotty lacing.

The aroma is full of sweet and tart fruits - certainly some cherry and raspberry notes. There is some funkiness, but nothing overpowering. Brown sugar and a bit of wood round out the nose.

The taste starts out with a tart fruit kick and gives way to the sweetness of the fruits and sugar. The finish is slightly dry with a definite wood presence.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with strong carbonation that enhances the complex sweet/tart flavor mix.

This is a very drinkable Flanders and one that is not overpoweringly tart or funky. That makes it a very good beer in my book. I'll definitely revisit this one over time and see how it ages.

Serving type: bottle

11-20-2008 02:43:42 | More by gford217
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bcm119

California

4/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy reddish-brown with a lackluster tan head. Sharp aromas of sour cherry and yeast; vibrant and fruity. Starts off tart and fizzy, with bouncy apple and sour cherry flavors. Needs to warm up significantly from refrigerator temps to show all its complexity. As it warms, the tight sour notes open up to more vinous dark fruit and wood. Some toasty oak/vanilla notes, almost like a rich California chard, come through in the nose, and again in the finish, at warmer temps. By the end it is supple and soft, with some black fruit and red grape skin flavors, but it becomes a little watery. It has some fleeting moments where it could pass for an Oregon pinot noir from a very rainy year. Interesting beer, but seems to come out of the gate too fast and then fades at the finish. Nonetheless, a treat from one of my favorite breweries.

Serving type: bottle

11-18-2008 04:03:36 | More by bcm119
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brewcrew76

Wisconsin

4.13/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to psprings for this one.

A - Hazy brownish, amber, ruby with a thin tan head.

S - Sweet and sour at the same time. Sour cherries, musty oak and a slight red wine characteristic. Very nice.

T - Very tart at the start followed by cherry and mixed berry, then a touch of sweetness, alcohol sting on the tongue and rounded out with grape like, red wine tannins and dark fruits.

M - Medium bodied with prickly carbonation, some tongue numbing alcohol and a dry red wine like finish that lingers.

D - Very interesting. A nice combo of flanders and red wine qualities although the flanders qualities disipate as it warms. This one would be great with a little more funkiness.

Serving type: bottle

11-18-2008 02:23:24 | More by brewcrew76
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Georgiabeer

Georgia

4.28/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is a very nice beer, not quite as sour and funky as the classic Belgian versions, but sharp enough and full bodied, creamy and delcious without being hot despite its 9% abv. The beer pours a classic reddish brown with a fair head that settles to a ring. The aromas are fairly light, but with some nice sour and creamy notes and a light metallic tang. Little spice. The taste exhibits some funk and tannins along with the sour tang and creaminess. Some slight spiciness throughout the taste. Very smooth and creamy mouthfeel but with that sour tang and some firm tannins. Lovely to drink, this should age nicely. An impressive effort at a sour style by a brewery not known for them.

Serving type: bottle

11-18-2008 00:46:28 | More by Georgiabeer
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100floods

California

3.58/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a mid to dark copper, i want to say peach as well. Light head, heavy fizzing upon pouring. Smells of sweet citrus. You can slightly smell the sour, but not enough to give it away. This is definitely a sour. This hits the pallet with an intense grapefruit taste. Subtle malty notes hiding in the back to bring you down. It leaves a lemonade sweet flavor on my lips after each sip. This is one of the first sours I've really enjoyed. I can see this one getting good with age as well. Really different from the douches, but I get that's flemmish. Definitely a good beer for those who want to step up a level with sours.

Serving type: bottle

11-16-2008 02:30:15 | More by 100floods
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kasper

New York

3.58/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours a murky, cloudy brown with a short creamy tan head that leaves brandy-like lacing as it settles to a ring and some floating bubbles.

S: Aromas of cherries, brett, cinnamon, a funky tang, wet oak and alcohol.

T: Weird. Not what I was expecting at all. Tastes like sour wine -- Mild vinegar, alcohol, and a real dryness the kicks in mid sip. Bit of sour apple. Totally weird. Sourness is kind of lactic.

M: Pretty heavy, slightly grainy like a red wine. Low levels of carbonation, some tingling from the alcohol.

D: I wouldn't call this highly drinkable. The alcohol is strong and I've had a lot more enjoyable sours. It's more acidic than sour.

Serving type: bottle

11-15-2008 00:42:35 | More by kasper
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Wasatch

Utah

4.38/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to JohnGalt1 for this brew.

22oz. Bomber
Dark Red Waxed

Poured into a tulip a very nice ruby red color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some nice small islands/sticky lacing. The nose is malty, yeasty, some raspberry, cheeries. The taste is malty, yeasty, sour, with some berries in there. Medium body, highly carbonated, the alcohol is hidden very well with this one. Very drinkable, this is a very nice brew, highly recommended, thanks Toby.

Serving type: bottle

11-13-2008 00:48:28 | More by Wasatch
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JoeMayo

Massachusetts

3.85/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A- Pours an amber-red color with a thin ring of foam around the glass.

S- The initial smell is EXTREMELY funky. Wet barnyard animals kinda funky. Beyond that, earthy tones of brett and notes of sour cherries are noted. It takes a lot to get past the inital stankyness though.

T- After a couple sips, I was able to ignore the ridiculous funk in the nose and really delve into the taste. Sour and funky notes balance a slight sweetness. Brett and sour cherriy notes balance the flavors of black cherries and caramel.

M- Crisp and tart with a lingering sour flavor.

D- This one needs to be sipped. The initial aroma is quite foul, but once you get beyond that, the beer is pretty enjoyable.

Serving type: bottle

11-11-2008 17:22:54 | More by JoeMayo
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HopHeadinAZ

Arizona

4.08/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz Bottle: Pours a reddish copper with a fine small tan head. I get tart.sour cherry on the nose with a hint of barrel notes. The taste is balanced for a Flanders which is why I think I like it so much. It has the sour acid characteristic with a very subtle hint of sweet. The mouth feel is fantastic with a nice weight, medium, that suits this very well. I rated the drink ability higher than I expected and it is good but not something I would want every day.

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2008 22:55:03 | More by HopHeadinAZ
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paytoplay

California

4.38/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This brew has a lot of upside with 6-18 months of aging. Slight sour but different from other sours, more mild. Almost reminded me or barrel aged sour Lost Abbey brews. Some oak vanilla sweet notes. Didn't do my research to see if this is barrel aged, but it was that boosy quality. Super complex. Lots going on on the mid and finish. To the point where you scratch your head and ask if you like this or not? For me and the others I've shared this with it was a YES! 2008 Bomber.

Notes from Keg are very similiar to the bottle. Another sign of across the board quality.

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2008 19:41:12 | More by paytoplay
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0110x011

California

4.22/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours dark amber with a tan, foamy head that recedes quickly to a thin collar. Caramel, sour cherries, earth and barnyard funk on the nose. Sour cherry, earth and dark fruit on the palate, with caramel sweetness and a lactic sour twang to balance things out. Finish is dry, and the body is surprisingly full. High drinkability.

This is a unique stab at the Flemish red style, full in body and high in ABV. Rodenbach on steroids. Very tasty.

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2008 06:02:38 | More by 0110x011
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snaotheus

Washington

3.83/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I hardly even know where to start with this. I'm not very familiar with the style (I've only had one other Flanders style), so I'm going to be winging it here.

I'm looking at it right now in a pint glass, and it's a pretty looking beer. Clear, dark amber with little head and little lacing, both of which fade quickly. That's the end of similarities with the beers I usually drink.

It smells sour and citrus, and both of these themes continue strongly into the taste. I can barely detect any hops (if at all), but I can barely detect any malt, either.

It feels fine in the mouth, thin and light, leaving the slightly dry feeling I associate with grapefruit.

Overall, I was surprised to enjoy this beer. I had to turn my beer-head off and just enjoy it as a beverage, but I did like it.

I can't tell you if this is any good for the style, but even though I'm kind of a hop head, I found it tasty enough to be interested in trying more of the style. That alone is probably a pretty good review of the beer.

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2014-02-23
I didn't even remember tasting this previously, but I certainly did go and try more similar styles, and sours are now up there in the categories of beer that I like. I'm still primarily a hophead, though.

I've had a 2010 and 2012 Dissident sitting around for a while, and finally decided to crack them with my wife today. 2010 "Best After" 11-01-11, 2012 "Best After" is 08-20-13. Both pour at fridge temp, they sat around for 20 minutes or so while I wrangled children, so I'd guess they're near 50 F now.

2010 pours a lighter reddish-brown, cloudy, little head, lots of carbonation. 2012 is darker, maybe slightly more carbonated, less cloudy.

2010 smells fruity and sour, very sweet-tarty and makes me think of a Flanders Red. 2012 has more beery aroma, more yeast, more muted.

2010 tastes sour and bitter, is this hopped like hell? Aftertaste is overpoweringly bitter (for the style), it's slow and drawn out. Up front, it's bright and fruity and sour. 2012 is fruitier, less sour, less bitter, and more muted all around. The lower bitterness on 2012 is appealing, makes it a bit easier to drink.

Mouthfeel on 2010 is dry, very dry, slightly gritty. 2012 is smoother, silkier.

Overall, still good, I might give it slightly better scores in some areas and slightly worse in others. I think I like the 2012 better, but maybe letting the 2010 settle on the palate a little more will reduce the impression of bitterness.

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2008 05:31:24 | More by snaotheus
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tprokop7

Massachusetts

4.1/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice reddish color, not too much head and it fades fairly quickly. Smells nice, but not overly sour. Taste is a little different than I expected. Definite sour aftertaste, but a nice earthy/farmy taste through the middle. A fellow BA says it tastes like a "creature of the farm," but he means that in the best way possible. A solid effort from a great brewery, I can't wait to try it with a little age on it.

Serving type: bottle

11-08-2008 01:40:47 | More by tprokop7
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Domingo

Colorado

4.33/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

You really have to respect Deschutes for this one.

Pours a rosewood brown color with a thin layer of head.
Smells sweet and sour at the same time. The nose reminds me of a red wine.
The taste is a wonderful mix of sour cherries, candy sugar, dried stonefruit, cranberries, spicy yeast, and very sour citrus. There's even a pretty evident balsamic vinegar flavor that comes out in both the flavor and nose as it warms slightly.
I had this with some herbed pork chops and it paired up wonderfully.
Bold, and as good as any similar brews I've had from Belgium or Belgio-American brewers.
Excellent!

Serving type: bottle

11-05-2008 16:42:31 | More by Domingo
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RickSawyer

Texas

3.85/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks goes to TRIFECTA for this beer.

Pours cola amber,pretty clear. Nice merangue creamy head piles up and falls to an offwhite cap. Smell is full. Dark cherries, fig, bready malt, leather, raspberry, some nice tropical bouquet, pineappley brett notes. Taste begins with a bit of malt character, followed up with pineapple, orange, cherries. Very tart, not overly sour as some wild ales can be. Brett offers a very nice tropical fruity flavor. Mouthfeel is creamy, a bit heavy, lightly carbonated. Solid beer.

Serving type: bottle

11-01-2008 19:55:30 | More by RickSawyer
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corey0212

Connecticut

4.6/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to jgaston for setting me up with this one!

Pours a murky reddish/brownish/mahogany color, foamy tan head fades quickly into a nice layer on top of the beer, nice spotty lacing, tiny bubbles rising single-file along the side of the glass. Lots of sour cherry on the nose, slightly vinegary, some sugary sweetness under it all really rounds things out. Great sour cherry flavors, brown sugar, slight alcohol flavors, some apple, and some darker fruits. Very actively carbonated, little bubbles zinging every which way, lingering tartness and some nice burn on the lips. This is wonderful.

Serving type: bottle

11-01-2008 01:24:06 | More by corey0212
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Oxymoron

Colorado

3.65/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The Dissident, is that the sequent to The Birds? Pours a mostly clear amber to ruby red color. A soft but fizzy white head with a little help on the pour. Quickly hid to the edge of the glass so not much retention or lacing. Not as viscous as I would have thought.

The nose is on the acidic end of a Flanders Red. Some lighter chlorine aromas on first sniff, but does air out and leave more of an acidic and white vinegar aroma. Some lighter wine and hints of oak and vanilla aromas as well. Some light yeast notes with some minor esters, roses and cherries. Some funk and a hint of butyric as well.

The taste is similar. The acidic flavor comes out more (reminds me of La Folie). The esters come out more as well with some crab apples, cherries and vanilla notes. Some tart and lemony flavors in the finish. The funk also come out with some barnyard notes and a bit of medicinal/band aid notes. This becomes more apparent as it warms.

The body is dry and lasts into the finish. Very nice. Carbonation is light even for style and could use some more. Overall this is a decent sour. Really reminds me of a cheap La Folie. I really enjoyed some of the fruiter notes but there are some noticeable off flavors that really distract from this to be a great sour.

Serving type: bottle

10-31-2008 15:20:13 | More by Oxymoron
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hwwty4

Missouri

3.83/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to julian for this one

Poured a 22oz bottle into a New Belgian globe glass. This beer pours a reddish mahogany that really shows its red highlights when held up to the light. The head started out as a pillow-y 2 inch beige head that left no lacing what so ever and melted into a lily pad. The aroma is woody up front, with sour pie cherries, and apple cider vinegar. The taste follows suit with sour cherries, oak, and raisins. The mouthfeel is light and crisp leaving a slight dryness. This is a great first attempt at a sour from Deschuttes and I for one, would love to see this as a continual effort from them.

Serving type: bottle

10-31-2008 01:56:37 | More by hwwty4
The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
93 out of 100 based on 941 ratings.