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The Dissident - Deschutes Brewery

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The DissidentThe Dissident

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BA SCORE
93
outstanding

955 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 955
Reviews: 425
rAvg: 4.2
pDev: 10.71%
Wants: 890
Gots: 428 | FT: 31
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Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  11.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012

(Beer added by: MisterClean on 08-19-2008)
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100floods

California

3.58/5  rDev -14.8%

Pours a mid to dark copper, i want to say peach as well. Light head, heavy fizzing upon pouring. Smells of sweet citrus. You can slightly smell the sour, but not enough to give it away. This is definitely a sour. This hits the pallet with an intense grapefruit taste. Subtle malty notes hiding in the back to bring you down. It leaves a lemonade sweet flavor on my lips after each sip. This is one of the first sours I've really enjoyed. I can see this one getting good with age as well. Really different from the douches, but I get that's flemmish. Definitely a good beer for those who want to step up a level with sours.

11-16-2008 02:30:15 | More by 100floods
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kasper

New York

3.58/5  rDev -14.8%

A: Pours a murky, cloudy brown with a short creamy tan head that leaves brandy-like lacing as it settles to a ring and some floating bubbles.

S: Aromas of cherries, brett, cinnamon, a funky tang, wet oak and alcohol.

T: Weird. Not what I was expecting at all. Tastes like sour wine -- Mild vinegar, alcohol, and a real dryness the kicks in mid sip. Bit of sour apple. Totally weird. Sourness is kind of lactic.

M: Pretty heavy, slightly grainy like a red wine. Low levels of carbonation, some tingling from the alcohol.

D: I wouldn't call this highly drinkable. The alcohol is strong and I've had a lot more enjoyable sours. It's more acidic than sour.

11-15-2008 00:42:35 | More by kasper
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Wasatch

Utah

4.38/5  rDev +4.3%

Thanks goes out to JohnGalt1 for this brew.

22oz. Bomber
Dark Red Waxed

Poured into a tulip a very nice ruby red color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some nice small islands/sticky lacing. The nose is malty, yeasty, some raspberry, cheeries. The taste is malty, yeasty, sour, with some berries in there. Medium body, highly carbonated, the alcohol is hidden very well with this one. Very drinkable, this is a very nice brew, highly recommended, thanks Toby.

11-13-2008 00:48:28 | More by Wasatch
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JoeMayo

Massachusetts

3.85/5  rDev -8.3%

A- Pours an amber-red color with a thin ring of foam around the glass.

S- The initial smell is EXTREMELY funky. Wet barnyard animals kinda funky. Beyond that, earthy tones of brett and notes of sour cherries are noted. It takes a lot to get past the inital stankyness though.

T- After a couple sips, I was able to ignore the ridiculous funk in the nose and really delve into the taste. Sour and funky notes balance a slight sweetness. Brett and sour cherriy notes balance the flavors of black cherries and caramel.

M- Crisp and tart with a lingering sour flavor.

D- This one needs to be sipped. The initial aroma is quite foul, but once you get beyond that, the beer is pretty enjoyable.

11-11-2008 17:22:54 | More by JoeMayo
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HopHeadinAZ

Arizona

4.08/5  rDev -2.9%

22oz Bottle: Pours a reddish copper with a fine small tan head. I get tart.sour cherry on the nose with a hint of barrel notes. The taste is balanced for a Flanders which is why I think I like it so much. It has the sour acid characteristic with a very subtle hint of sweet. The mouth feel is fantastic with a nice weight, medium, that suits this very well. I rated the drink ability higher than I expected and it is good but not something I would want every day.

11-09-2008 22:55:03 | More by HopHeadinAZ
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paytoplay

California

4.38/5  rDev +4.3%

This brew has a lot of upside with 6-18 months of aging. Slight sour but different from other sours, more mild. Almost reminded me or barrel aged sour Lost Abbey brews. Some oak vanilla sweet notes. Didn't do my research to see if this is barrel aged, but it was that boosy quality. Super complex. Lots going on on the mid and finish. To the point where you scratch your head and ask if you like this or not? For me and the others I've shared this with it was a YES! 2008 Bomber.

Notes from Keg are very similiar to the bottle. Another sign of across the board quality.

11-09-2008 19:41:12 | More by paytoplay
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0110x011

California

4.22/5  rDev +0.5%

pours dark amber with a tan, foamy head that recedes quickly to a thin collar. Caramel, sour cherries, earth and barnyard funk on the nose. Sour cherry, earth and dark fruit on the palate, with caramel sweetness and a lactic sour twang to balance things out. Finish is dry, and the body is surprisingly full. High drinkability.

This is a unique stab at the Flemish red style, full in body and high in ABV. Rodenbach on steroids. Very tasty.

11-09-2008 06:02:38 | More by 0110x011
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snaotheus

Washington

3.83/5  rDev -8.8%

I hardly even know where to start with this. I'm not very familiar with the style (I've only had one other Flanders style), so I'm going to be winging it here.

I'm looking at it right now in a pint glass, and it's a pretty looking beer. Clear, dark amber with little head and little lacing, both of which fade quickly. That's the end of similarities with the beers I usually drink.

It smells sour and citrus, and both of these themes continue strongly into the taste. I can barely detect any hops (if at all), but I can barely detect any malt, either.

It feels fine in the mouth, thin and light, leaving the slightly dry feeling I associate with grapefruit.

Overall, I was surprised to enjoy this beer. I had to turn my beer-head off and just enjoy it as a beverage, but I did like it.

I can't tell you if this is any good for the style, but even though I'm kind of a hop head, I found it tasty enough to be interested in trying more of the style. That alone is probably a pretty good review of the beer.

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2014-02-23
I didn't even remember tasting this previously, but I certainly did go and try more similar styles, and sours are now up there in the categories of beer that I like. I'm still primarily a hophead, though.

I've had a 2010 and 2012 Dissident sitting around for a while, and finally decided to crack them with my wife today. 2010 "Best After" 11-01-11, 2012 "Best After" is 08-20-13. Both pour at fridge temp, they sat around for 20 minutes or so while I wrangled children, so I'd guess they're near 50 F now.

2010 pours a lighter reddish-brown, cloudy, little head, lots of carbonation. 2012 is darker, maybe slightly more carbonated, less cloudy.

2010 smells fruity and sour, very sweet-tarty and makes me think of a Flanders Red. 2012 has more beery aroma, more yeast, more muted.

2010 tastes sour and bitter, is this hopped like hell? Aftertaste is overpoweringly bitter (for the style), it's slow and drawn out. Up front, it's bright and fruity and sour. 2012 is fruitier, less sour, less bitter, and more muted all around. The lower bitterness on 2012 is appealing, makes it a bit easier to drink.

Mouthfeel on 2010 is dry, very dry, slightly gritty. 2012 is smoother, silkier.

Overall, still good, I might give it slightly better scores in some areas and slightly worse in others. I think I like the 2012 better, but maybe letting the 2010 settle on the palate a little more will reduce the impression of bitterness.

11-09-2008 05:31:24 | More by snaotheus
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tprokop7

Massachusetts

4.1/5  rDev -2.4%

Nice reddish color, not too much head and it fades fairly quickly. Smells nice, but not overly sour. Taste is a little different than I expected. Definite sour aftertaste, but a nice earthy/farmy taste through the middle. A fellow BA says it tastes like a "creature of the farm," but he means that in the best way possible. A solid effort from a great brewery, I can't wait to try it with a little age on it.

11-08-2008 01:40:47 | More by tprokop7
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Domingo

Colorado

4.33/5  rDev +3.1%

You really have to respect Deschutes for this one.

Pours a rosewood brown color with a thin layer of head.
Smells sweet and sour at the same time. The nose reminds me of a red wine.
The taste is a wonderful mix of sour cherries, candy sugar, dried stonefruit, cranberries, spicy yeast, and very sour citrus. There's even a pretty evident balsamic vinegar flavor that comes out in both the flavor and nose as it warms slightly.
I had this with some herbed pork chops and it paired up wonderfully.
Bold, and as good as any similar brews I've had from Belgium or Belgio-American brewers.
Excellent!

11-05-2008 16:42:31 | More by Domingo
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RickSawyer

Texas

3.85/5  rDev -8.3%

Thanks goes to TRIFECTA for this beer.

Pours cola amber,pretty clear. Nice merangue creamy head piles up and falls to an offwhite cap. Smell is full. Dark cherries, fig, bready malt, leather, raspberry, some nice tropical bouquet, pineappley brett notes. Taste begins with a bit of malt character, followed up with pineapple, orange, cherries. Very tart, not overly sour as some wild ales can be. Brett offers a very nice tropical fruity flavor. Mouthfeel is creamy, a bit heavy, lightly carbonated. Solid beer.

11-01-2008 19:55:30 | More by RickSawyer
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corey0212

Connecticut

4.6/5  rDev +9.5%

Big thanks to jgaston for setting me up with this one!

Pours a murky reddish/brownish/mahogany color, foamy tan head fades quickly into a nice layer on top of the beer, nice spotty lacing, tiny bubbles rising single-file along the side of the glass. Lots of sour cherry on the nose, slightly vinegary, some sugary sweetness under it all really rounds things out. Great sour cherry flavors, brown sugar, slight alcohol flavors, some apple, and some darker fruits. Very actively carbonated, little bubbles zinging every which way, lingering tartness and some nice burn on the lips. This is wonderful.

11-01-2008 01:24:06 | More by corey0212
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Oxymoron

Colorado

3.65/5  rDev -13.1%

The Dissident, is that the sequent to The Birds? Pours a mostly clear amber to ruby red color. A soft but fizzy white head with a little help on the pour. Quickly hid to the edge of the glass so not much retention or lacing. Not as viscous as I would have thought.

The nose is on the acidic end of a Flanders Red. Some lighter chlorine aromas on first sniff, but does air out and leave more of an acidic and white vinegar aroma. Some lighter wine and hints of oak and vanilla aromas as well. Some light yeast notes with some minor esters, roses and cherries. Some funk and a hint of butyric as well.

The taste is similar. The acidic flavor comes out more (reminds me of La Folie). The esters come out more as well with some crab apples, cherries and vanilla notes. Some tart and lemony flavors in the finish. The funk also come out with some barnyard notes and a bit of medicinal/band aid notes. This becomes more apparent as it warms.

The body is dry and lasts into the finish. Very nice. Carbonation is light even for style and could use some more. Overall this is a decent sour. Really reminds me of a cheap La Folie. I really enjoyed some of the fruiter notes but there are some noticeable off flavors that really distract from this to be a great sour.

10-31-2008 15:20:13 | More by Oxymoron
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hwwty4

Missouri

3.83/5  rDev -8.8%

Thanks to julian for this one

Poured a 22oz bottle into a New Belgian globe glass. This beer pours a reddish mahogany that really shows its red highlights when held up to the light. The head started out as a pillow-y 2 inch beige head that left no lacing what so ever and melted into a lily pad. The aroma is woody up front, with sour pie cherries, and apple cider vinegar. The taste follows suit with sour cherries, oak, and raisins. The mouthfeel is light and crisp leaving a slight dryness. This is a great first attempt at a sour from Deschuttes and I for one, would love to see this as a continual effort from them.

10-31-2008 01:56:37 | More by hwwty4
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Meandmymonkey

Colorado

4.25/5  rDev +1.2%

Thanks to Brad at Mile High wine and spirits for holding a bottle for me. Served in an old new belgium snifter. Once you get through the many layers of goddamn wax, this unique brew pours a reddish brown almost treated wood looking color. Good carbonation for such an aged beer. Smells of cherries and dark fruits are immediate followed by figs and some subtle yeast notes. Being such a big fan of flanders style ales, I was expecting a much more sour/tart taste with a fruity finish. I got the finish and most of the heavy fruit pickups but I just didn't get that tartness that I was craving. Still...much respect for this wild ale and for the dedication it took to brew this. If I only had the self control to age a few bottles of this for a few years. Could only imagine how this beer would come into its own given time. Another solid release from my favorite brewery in the US

10-26-2008 03:43:59 | More by Meandmymonkey
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Floydster

California

4.45/5  rDev +6%

22 ounce double red waxed dipped bottle picked up at City Beer by Murchmac up in San Francisco, thanks for sending this one my way, think the original price on this was around ten dollars, poured into my St. Feuillien snifter tonight

A-Dark red with some brown tones, very light on the top when held up to the lamp, thin 3/4 inch beige creamy head that lasts a good ten minutes, great retention, lacing most of the time
S-Lots of cherries, wild yeast, sour aromas, blackberries, brown sugar, toffee, underlying nuttiness, faint vinegar, roasted malts, funk, and sweetness
T-More sour at first with a slight vinegary taste mixed with some tart, taste was popping with a limited finish, once it warmed there was some sweetness mixed in and the brown ale characteristics came out of this Flanders, roasted nutty maltiness in the middle, finish was still pretty sour but definitely had more of a sweet cherry taste, aftertaste stuck around a lot longer too, almost think tasted better at room temperature rather than at first after spending thirty minutes in the fridge, nice balance between the malt and wild yeast, provided an enjoyable sweet and sour experience
M-Tart, sugary, sweet, and slightly dry mouthfeel, when first served and it was cool there was a large amount of carbonation, still some around later as it warmed but not nearly as much, medium bodied, taste lingered nicely
D-Drank the whole bomber and could have had more, alcohol was hidden beautifully, went down easy, not overly tart, sweet, or hot, smooth and easy to drink, drank over a two hour span while watching the game

I liked this better than Black Butte XX but not as much as Abyss, even though they are totally different styles, those are the other two in Deschutes reserve series as of now for those of you who do not know, first experience with this new brew, this a damn good Flanders and glad to see this brewery branching out, wish more of this came down into our area, do not know how this will age but it should hold up for a year or two, would like to drink again, recommended

10-24-2008 04:56:25 | More by Floydster
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pkeigs

Colorado

3.78/5  rDev -10%

A- Served in a snifter, slight sticky lacing, nice deep red/brown color. Head dissipated quickly.

S- Fruit and Sourness, little bit of funkiness

T- Sweet and nice sour finish, not to acidic like some of the other sour beers brewed in the U.S.

M- Great smooth carbonation

D-Working as I taste this but I would love to drink it all night long!!

10-24-2008 00:58:58 | More by pkeigs
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BeerTruth

Connecticut

4.1/5  rDev -2.4%

Thanks to mashmaster on RB for this one.

22 oz. waxed bomber poured into a tulip.

Pours a dark ruby, very similar to the color of the wax, with a one finger light tan colored head that quickly falls to a thin layer of bubbles. A fair amount of lacing clings to the sides of the glass after a good swirl. Smell consists of tart cherries, leather, and wood. A moist grassy aroma and strawberry/rhubarb sprinkled with brown sugar in the nose as well. Taste starts off with Sweedish Fish and crab apples followed by caramel and oak. Midway some vinegar and weak brett battle each other on the tongue. The bland aftertaste is a bit of a disappointment, artificial candy cherry flavors and hay. Light body with an interesting creamy feel and a powerful carbonation. I was very surprised to see this at 9% abv, the alcohol is hidden quite well throughout. Not a bad brew, but nothing mind-blowing.

10-22-2008 23:56:19 | More by BeerTruth
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TheodorHerzl

Indiana

4.65/5  rDev +10.7%

A: Dissident pours a mahogany brown color with tons of tiny carbonation bubbles, and a small thin head.
S: Cherries and blackberries and other orchard fruit with plenty of wild scents coming from the brett, but not quite "horsebarn" in smell
T: Tart cherries and blackberries come out very strong with a certain grape quality lingering in the background. I get more apples in the flavor profile as the beer warms a bit. This is delicious.
M: Good carbonation, medium bodied with the alcohol very well hidden
D: Awesome, and I hope to get more of this beer to be able to try and experiment with food pairings on this one.

10-22-2008 16:29:39 | More by TheodorHerzl
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glid02

Georgia

4.43/5  rDev +5.5%

I was lucky enough to get a bomber of this from ampzilla. Much obliged good sir.

Pours a hazy light ruby color with a one-finger off-white head. The head dissipates pretty quickly into a wispy layer of bubbles on top and a medium-sized ring around the glass. There's some lacing.

Smells very good. Cherries, raspberries, and blackberries with a mild funk from the wild yeast. There's also a slightly tart aroma that grows as the beer warms.

Tastes great. Like the smell, there are cherry, raspberries, and blackberry flavors that are as much sweet as they are tart. The taste is very balanced. There's absolutely no indication of the alcohol.

Mouthfeel is good. The thickness is just right, and the carbonation is not too much nor too little.

Drinkability is great. I finished my glass entirely too quickly, and would have had another had I not split the bottle with a friend. This goes down very easily.

Overall I'm impressed with this. The beer certainly lives up to the hype, and it's definitely worth a shot. Thanks again to ampzilla for passing this along.

10-21-2008 02:25:47 | More by glid02
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Reino

Oregon

4.05/5  rDev -3.6%

Appearance- An aggressive pour only yields a finger and a half of head that dissipates quickly. The lacing is decent, but nothing earth shattering. The beer itself is a very pretty mahogany/amber mix that turns into a watery, fire orange when held to light.

Smell- Brett, cherries and blackberries. The cherries aren't extremely tart, more mellow, sweet and smooth. The sweetness is something you'd find in a powdery candy or a Sparks. That funky sweet that the brett brings to the table is pretty fantastic. I get medicinal, barnyard and sweet cherries all at the same time. It's a nice blend.

Taste- The taste starts with a very noticeable medicinal quality that quickly transitions into dark cherries that aren't nearly as sweet as the nose, and finishes tart with some heat. The cherry flavor that lingers is much more true than the cherry I get while drinking. The sweetness that comes in the middle is almost more tart strawberry and orange juice than cherry. I get apple notes, both red and green, and a flavor that reminds me a mimosas. The more I drink, the more apple I get. There is a bit of graininess to it all, as well. The sourness is extremely tame, in my opinion, and the alcohol seems to be fucking up the melding of flavors. I think this beer suffers from trying to do it all. It wants to show off the Brett, it wants to be tart from the cherries, and it wants to have a higher abv than normal. What it actually accomplishes is a clusterfuck of flavors that taste good together, but not great.

Mouthfeel- A good amount of carbonation, let's say medium, and a fairly full body. My tongue feels like it's drinking something really tart, even though it isn't. A lot of the better flavors linger on the tongue. There is a faint chocolate/toffee-ness to the cherries that linger on my tongue that I really enjoy.

Drinkability- This is my fourth go round with this beer out of the bottle, and again, I'm disappointed. It goes down easy, but the flavors get a bit obnoxious at points.The combination of flavors just don't get along as well as they could have. I credit Deschutes for trying one of my favorite styles, but I think the hype machine will sell much more of this beer than quality will (and that's coming from a guy who plans to trade his last bottle). I think some age will reform this beers taste a great deal, but unfortunately, I'm far too broke to wait it out. I get to have it on tap in a few weeks. I hope it right some of its wrongs.

10-20-2008 09:00:22 | More by Reino
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Wetpaperbag

Washington

4.33/5  rDev +3.1%

A- Had this in a proper chalice. The head is a wonderful two fingers what didn't stay to play for too long. The beer is a dark red/brown color. The head is a mix of tight and loose bubbles, but great aroma, speaking of which moving on.

S- The cherries are the star here. I had this in the bottle but out of the tap its just better. The sour acid smell is there, but the cherry is more well rounded from the tap.

T- From the tap this is just better. The taste is very balanced with a good flavor of cherries and bitterness. The sourness is there and is a great compliment to the cherries. The sour acid taste completely covers the tongue. I taste almost a sort of chocolate with this. It is very subtle, but there. I think this is much better on tap.

M- Feels good in the mouth, nice sour taste puckers your tongue for sure, but it keeps your taste buds craving more.

D- Easy to drink, definitely worth sipping. Its fun to see how this beer changes as the beer warms.

10-19-2008 20:34:49 | More by Wetpaperbag
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roadhouse

Florida

4.33/5  rDev +3.1%

I received this today in a trade with srandycarter (thanks!) and just could not resist the urge to pop it open.

Poured from a 22 oz. mahogany waxed bomber into a snifter.

Appears a nice looking red-brown with a half inch light tan head. It sinks down to a skim and leaves some patchy lacing on the glass.

Aroma has some sweet malty tones but there is an enticing sour funk to it that is characteristicly Brett. The cherries can definitely be detected, though they blend well and are not in the forefront. Some light vinous notes as well. I think I even detect some faint bubble gum esters way in the back too.

Right when the beer hits the taste buds there is a soft sweetness but right when I start to swallow the Brett appears with a deliciously refreshing tartness. The cherries reappear to bring out some more fruitiness as the tartness lingers. It finishes nice and dry with the tartness gradually subsiding.

Mouthfeel is medium-bodied, very soft, with a good level of carbonation for the style. It's very hard to believe this stuff is 11% ABV as there is no trace of alcohol whatsoever.

This beer was delicious. I haven't had a great deal of sours to compare it to but I highly enjoyed this beer. Many thanks to Randy for giving me the chance to try this wonderful concoction.

10-17-2008 21:53:13 | More by roadhouse
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russpowell

Oklahoma

4.43/5  rDev +5.5%

11-16-12 Bumping up my scores based on my most recent bottle, an absolute delight. A sour/tart tour de force

Pours an effervescent caramel/chestnut with a bit of sand colored head. You can certainly hear the carbonation! Some lacing & average head retention

S: Sourness & horse blanket, fades as this warms

T: Vinegar tartness, some raspberry & dirt up front, plus green apples. Some caramel starts fighting through the green apple sourness as this warms, plus more raspberry tartness, white mushrooms are also there as well, with more dryness & a bit of toffee as well. Finishes dry tart & with a nice raspberry twang, plus more green apples,& caramel. The tartness fading at the end kind of detracted style-wise

MF: Puckery with light but synergistic carbonation, reminds me of farmhouse dry cider from England or Normandy. Balances well for the style, very sticky at the end. My teeth feel like they are rotting; I'm thinking caramel apples with some twang

The ABV is well disguised, but the tartness & dryness do slow me down a bit. I have a love/hate relationship with this style, this certainly skews more towards of the love side of the beer spectrum. Well done, deschutes! sour beer freaks may find this wanting, but I enjoyed this quite a bit

10-17-2008 01:53:34 | More by russpowell
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mentor

Colorado

3.68/5  rDev -12.4%

2008 vintage (1st year offered). Pours a half finger of light brown head over a hazed reddened brown liquid. Smells oak, acetic, lactic, fresh lether, mild smoke, some buttery pediococcus, sharp alcohol with mild fusel character, woody driness, sun-dried cherries.

Tastes lactic and acetic sour balanced by a prominent sweet. The malt carries a cherry, crabapple, and raspberry flavor that is delectible. Oak is much milder in the flavor than the aroma. Bit of a tart circusy finish that leaves the tongue clingy dry and almost makes the teeth sticky dry. Actually, a bit merlot wine-like. Medium body likely helps this beer, as a light body wouldn't be able to hold flvaors on the tongue and a heavier beer would be sticky. Medium carbonation fights the stickiness, while allowing the malt sweet to persist long enough to nearly balance.

10-16-2008 07:15:36 | More by mentor
The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
93 out of 100 based on 955 ratings.