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The Dissident - Deschutes Brewery

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BA SCORE
93
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955 Ratings
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Ratings: 955
Reviews: 425
rAvg: 4.2
pDev: 10.71%
Wants: 892
Gots: 428 | FT: 31
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Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  11.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012

(Beer added by: MisterClean on 08-19-2008)
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mikesgroove

South Carolina

4.1/5  rDev -2.4%

Big thanks goes out to the kind trader who sent me this one. I had been dying to try it but shut out at all attempts, glad I could finally succeed at one of them! Twenty Two ounce bottle, dipped in wax and served at cellar temperature in a snifter glass. Consumed on 10/05/2008.

The pour was rather interesting. A deep brown color came through almost immediately but with a more then decent reddish tint to it. Almost completely opaque, I was surprised to be honest with how full this one came off right away. Not really much in the way of a head on the first pour, though the second one produced some decent rise to about a half inch that quickly settled down and relaxed.

The aroma was rather nice, not as tart as I would have liked, but still more then decent. Nice notes of sour cherries, a hint of apple and some figs were all quite big here. There was a nice touch of sweetness built into it though that was subtle enough to offer some nice balance to it. The flavor too was very well done. Rich, and quite complex. Started with an interesting rush of grain, nice and full with a decidedly fruity taste. Light touches of cherries, sour apples, and a hint of almost currant like flavor coming through. Some light hoppiness which really came out of nowhere, but was quickly shunned aside by the sour cherry flavor. Long and drawn out finish was very dry and really let the flavor sit on the tongue, letting you take all of it in. Rich and creamy feel was a little bit bigger then what I would normally associate with the style, but still very nicely done. For 11% this one came out of left field. I would have sworn up and down this was no bigger then 6% until I really started feeling it towards the end.

Overall I would say this was a very solid beer. Not the best sour I have had recently,. But very well balanced and nicely put together. Rich enough to be an all-night sipper for sure. Not a bad release here and I would not be opposed to trying it out again.

10-16-2008 01:30:12 | More by mikesgroove
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aerozeppl

New York

4.15/5  rDev -1.2%

Thanks to Beerzebub for this.

A: Really nice looking brownish red color. Poured with a finger of slightly off white head.

S: A nice subtle mix of sour and sweetness. Cherries are in the back but not that strong.

T: The taste is really nice. A nice blast of sour up front. You really get a hint of the barrel right after that. A nice warming blast of booze after that. The barrel does give it something nice but it cuts down on the sour. A nice earth mustiness in the finish.

M: Rather boring mouthfeel but that is a hallmark of the style.

D: As others have said not as sour as I would have liked. That being said this is a nice beer. Totally american. A barrel aged Flanders? Why not. Definitely glad I got the chance to try this. Thanks again.

10-15-2008 23:05:10 | More by aerozeppl
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Halcyondays

California

4.28/5  rDev +1.9%

22 oz. bomber, from the BevMo Cypress, drank while watching American Pie,

A: Pours a relatively clear dark amber with a nice one finger white head initially which receded into a nice lace.

S: Brown malt predominately, with some mild acidity, Brett is evident, giving a funky cheese-like note.

T: At a cooler temperature, the dark malt and cherries predominate, the true fermented cherry taste is nice and subtle and plays off the malt and acidity well. Closer to room temperature, the Brett and wild yeast really start to come to the party, offering a soft funkiness reminiscent of a cave-aged Gruyere cheese, it is an intriguing flavour that stays with the brew on each sip. Oak and some astringent wood alkaloid is evident as well, along with a very light hint of vanilla.

M: This beer is very well structured, the acidity is there but soft enough as to not overwhelm the drink, for a complex sour it is very drinkable.

D: This is a very well made beer; I'm not surprised as this is Deschutes we're talking about here. This'll be probably the only bottle I'll have of this unless it gets released again. A very tasty Western sour, I'm glad I bought the bottle.

10-15-2008 04:07:00 | More by Halcyondays
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rowew

Colorado

2.93/5  rDev -30.2%

Presentation: 22 oz bomber, capped and waxed. Mine was apparently dipped twice, and was a complete pain in the ass to open. Label is great and distinctive. Date code is not immediately obvious.

Appearance: Pours reddish brown, thin head with just a bit of lacing around the edges.

Smell: Subtle, but pleasant. A bit of brett, some tart cherry aroma.

Taste: Mouthfeel is pretty thin - flavor is the same cherrys and a bit of tartness. A little over carbonated, finishes very tart.

Overall impression: Hmm .. I like sour beers, but something about this doesn't sit too well. The tartness is puckering in the finish, but there isn't enouhg body or flavor to back it up. It's still interesting, but definitely not one of my favorite Flanders'

10-14-2008 23:51:39 | More by rowew
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stumac

Texas

4.47/5  rDev +6.4%

Thanks to my buddy Onslow for this one....

this brew pours up a red amber color with a small off white head. the nose has a slight sour note to it, subtle fruits, apricot maybe. the taste has a slight sourness to it as well, subtle sweetness, fruits again, some citrus. medium bodied and low carbo.

I'ld like to get my hands on another bottle of this but I think my chances of that are rather bleak.

10-14-2008 15:38:02 | More by stumac
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bkilpatr

Oregon

4.3/5  rDev +2.4%

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a Chimay glass. 10/13/08. Bottle dipped in red wax. Probably one of the coolest labels I've seen in awhile.

Pours a dark amber-mahogany color with about a finger of reddish-beige head. The head slowly dropped to a thin layer, no lacing. Aroma is tart and sour, with cherry, sour apple, grapes, and a bit of fig.

Taste is very similar to the aroma. Tart, sour, fruity, malty. Cherry, green apple, grapes, other darker fruits, pepper and spices. Somewhat of a red wine flavor to it, and slight oak. No alcohol noticeable in the taste. Tastes really good.

Feel is medium-body with ample carbonation. Very, very dry finish. Drinkability is really good. It's not too sour or tart, and the alcohol is hidden really well. The bottle was empty before I knew it.

Overall, a really tasty brew. I'm no expert on the style, and I'm not a huge fan of the sour type beers, but I think this one is pretty darn good. I hope they make more beers in this style.

10-14-2008 03:03:23 | More by bkilpatr
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Bitterbill

Wyoming

4.43/5  rDev +5.5%

I picked up a few bottles at Supermarket Liquors in Ft Collins. They went for $10.29 a bottle..

Damn wax.
This pours a clear dark copper colour with a small and quickly shrinking head of foam. Despite the lack of a lot of foam, there's some good lacing.

The smell has a very good pronounced sour nose along with notes of cherries. oak, more dark fruit, and some sweet malt.

The taste has a strong sour cherry flavour up front that's hitting my tastebuds very nicely. More dark fruit flavours pour in and I'm getting some of that Brett funk mixed in along with a light but right for me presence of oak. The more I sip, the more I notice the tartness and what I'm not noticing is the alcohol. Wow. This is 9%?? You could have fooled me because it's an easy drinker.

Mouthfeel is on the low end of medium, the carbonation is light, and it finishes with the cherry sourness and some light funk. Yum. I haven't had a lot of experience with Oud Bruins but Deschutes definitely made this one to my liking. Well done.

10-12-2008 19:39:37 | More by Bitterbill
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illidurit

California

3.98/5  rDev -5.2%

Poured into a tulip wine glass. Strawberry preserves color, with a creamy pink/tan head. Tons of effervescence streaming up from the depths of the glass. Excellent retention and solid films of lacing.

Aroma is chiefly black cherries, with smoldering oak, crabapple, and balsamic vinegar.

An initial sweetish natural plum/cherry juice note is quickly tempered by a rush of winey tannins and fresh brettiness. The alcohol comes through occasionally, but it blends rather well with the other flavors, taking on a cabernet quality. Reasonably complex, but it's a little boozy and young right now. This seems like a perfect candidate for a year of aging before a second sampling. The brett could fully blossom, the booze could mellow out, etc.

Mouthfeel is a little astringent from the wine aging. Good carbonation, very short finish. A very good beer, but not quite a great beer.

10-12-2008 07:24:24 | More by illidurit
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GClarkage

California

3.85/5  rDev -8.3%

10/11/08- Purchased at Bottle Barn, in Santa Rosa, CA.

Presentation- 22oz bottle, 2008 release. Waxed cap and poured into my Orval chalice.

Appearance- Kind of a filtered apple cider color. A bit ruby red, a bit brown. Small 1/4 inch head, if that with a light rim remaining through the beer. Leaves light watery lace spotting...about the norm for any Oud Bruin I've had.

Smell- Very light nose. Oak is the main flavor, but still not that strong. Cherries, maybe some raspberries and a light earthy nose.

Taste- For an american made Oud Bruin..excellent, for an overall Oud Bruin, better than average. Has a really nice cherry base. It's tart but not too tart. Actually, I would have preffered a bit more sour in the taste. Oak flavor swirls around with cherry as the main flavor. It does have some slight earthy-mushroom-truffle-dirt flavor.

Mouthfeel- The one drawback I have is that it really does not have a lasting mouthfeel of any kind. Once you take a sip the flavor is gone. The carbonation is about right with a light, but sharp and prickly feeling.

Drinkability- One I would buy again, but probably not worth the double digit price tag due due to the hype. Still, a really good job by Dechutes. Almost a great beer.

10-12-2008 03:45:16 | More by GClarkage
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maximum12

Minnesota

4.13/5  rDev -1.7%

Interesting beer. I haven't had a lot of sours, but I imagine this would be a great 'starter' sour.

It more tart with a hint of sour than a full-on eyebrow-bender. There are some nice dark, fruity flavors up front, with the tartness coming later, & a bit of alcohol warmth, all of which balances the flavor out of hard-core sour territory. The Dissident is bone-dry (I can see the sidebar: "best paired with a glass of water"). The color bears noting, since it's a rather dark red that's also very clear. Strange.

Overall a good beer, & I appreciate Deschutes continually pushing the boundaries of what they're doing, in addition to their excellent standard lineup. Props on them.

10-12-2008 01:51:58 | More by maximum12
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athensbeermaster

Georgia

4.3/5  rDev +2.4%

Had this brew on tap at the Sacramento brew Co.
They just tapped the keg and it tasted so fresh with lush dark fruits, plums,dark cherries, and a hint of ripe granny smith apples. The mouthfeel was so rich I didn't notice the high alcohol level. The drinkabilty was very smooth.
This flanders ale was not as complex as some other beers I've tried but was a welcome treat to have with my meal. Once again Deschutes comes thru with a tasty brew!

10-11-2008 05:00:13 | More by athensbeermaster
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aforbes10

Iowa

4.1/5  rDev -2.4%

I was amazed to find this at the local grocery store right when we moved to Davis, Ca...now i've found it everywhere and im not so amazed, but whatever, its still cool. Pours a deep blood red with a nice white head that settles to a thin film while drinking. Smells of tart cherries, sour malt, a Bretty-funkiness, inviting. Taste is subtle, fruity but with a hint of chocolate malt. Not as tart as the odor suggests, but still a touch. Alcohol present but not overwhelming. A nice mouthfeel, approaching full-bodied, at least in so far as the style allows. A syrupy quality, though not too thick. A well-crafted foray into wild ales for Deschutes. Maybe a beer worth aging too.

10-11-2008 04:56:31 | More by aforbes10
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emerge077

Illinois

4.15/5  rDev -1.2%

Thanks to Monsone for this one!

Served in a Duvel glass. Deep red, ruby jewel tone with high clarity. One finger of tan foam initially, that sizzled with an audible crackle against the ear. Spotty bits of lace, but not much. Even the etching in the glass doesn't keep the head from disappearing into a thin ring. Swirling does regenerate it, but it just doesn't retain itself all that well.

Initial first whiff from the bottle was a pleasant funky ripe cheese note. After pouring it seemed to quickly blow off and was replaced by a woody cherry aroma.

Tart and tangy, yogurt like, moderately acidic. Cherry pit, no sweetness from the fruit. Wood and leather in the aftertaste. A spicy tingle from the alcohol. Creamy, with a full body that contributes a pleasant vinous mouthfeel. The finish has a definite tanginess about it, rather than sour.

Rodenbach Grand Cru is still the benchmark to me, although this is in the ballpark. Actually it bears more resemblance to JP La Roja. The potential is there...it just seems to lack an extra degree of complexity that would make it exceptional. Still a successful experiment that I was happy to enjoy.

10-11-2008 03:24:43 | More by emerge077
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brewandbbq

New Hampshire

4.43/5  rDev +5.5%

Pours hazy amber with a ruby hue. A quarter inch head rose up before settling down to a placid surface, with a few errant dots of lacework.

Aromatics hit the nose as soon as the beer goes into the glass, with fruity acid wafting up.
Cherries, red wine, balsamic vinegar, ripe malt, and warming spice. Hints of cinnamon, peppercorns, cedar, sherry, and rhubarb follow through.

Medium bodied, with a lightly prickled mouthfeel, and drying.

Ripe, red fruits, acid, and oaky tannins are supported by a malty base on the palate.
As the brew warms hints of subtle spice step forward. Nutmeg, anise, and Schezuan peppercorns. Plenty of acid without being lactic or sour.

Finishes with cherries, sherry, balsamic, pepper-studded earthy cedar, and warming alcohol.

Wowza. Great beer now, but just wait a few years for this one to really meld, mellow, and complexify. The Pinot Noir barrels add a tremendous depth that is not typically found in Oud Bruins.
The tartness level now is firm, but allows the brew to be very drinkable. I'm curious to see if some cellar time will add much sourness.

Do yourself a favor and let this one warm up to room temperature.

Big ups to BA Urwatuh8 for answering the call once more!

10-09-2008 23:23:19 | More by brewandbbq
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LittleBreeze

New York

4.05/5  rDev -3.6%

Dana, thanks for the opportunity.

The coloring makes this a striking beer. Creamy head/lacing adds to the table appeal.

While sour beers aren't my fancy, this is a another beer with a tang that is just down right yummy. There is the "dark fruits"...malt, the wine quality and subtle barrel. Everything is so balanced.

The mouthfeel is light and creamy. Drinkability is pretty high. The 11% is well hidden. If I didn't know better, I'd open another bottle.

10-09-2008 02:32:22 | More by LittleBreeze
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pwoods

Ohio

4.2/5  rDev 0%

Thanks to RoryGilmore for this bottle.Shared at RoyMunson's house along with FtownThrowDown. Thanks for having me over :)

22oz. brown bomber, maroon waxed, poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a light maroon with an average, lightly tinted head. Some retention and lacing.

S: Plenty of dark juicy fruits. A big of green apple and citrus tartness. The brett doesn't pack a huge punch in the nose. Decent sweet maltiness.

T/M: More of the fruitiness from the nose. Tartness is a bit up as well. The brett starts off pretty average but kicks it up a couple gears as it warms further. The malts are sweet and tasty and help balance things out a big. The barrels add a nice subtle depth. Alcohol is hidden very nicely. Body is about medium with decent carbonation.

D: Pretty easy to drink. The tart and sourness definitely gets up there toward the end but still easy enough to drink.

10-09-2008 01:09:10 | More by pwoods
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Tdizzle

California

4.38/5  rDev +4.3%

I purchased this bottle at BevMo! Cypress thanks to BevMoPatrick1. A Flanders-style brown ale aged for 18 months in Pinot Noir barrels. Or so I was told.

A- Poured from a 22oz waxed dipped bottle into a snifter, The Dissident pours a slightly opaque burgundy color with a very brief effervescent head that settles to a ring along the inside of the glass, leaving some very spotty lacing after each sip.

S- Tart and vinous red wine notes are the primary characteristics of the aroma. In the background there are scents of oak barrel and toasted grain. The alcohol becomes slightly noticeable as the beer hits room temperature.

T- The initial tartness of the taste is combined with dark citrus and berry fruit flavors evocative of red wine. The oak barrel aspect is fairly pronounced as it emerges towards the the clean, dry finish that leaves almost no lingering flavors on the palate save for a mild, almost bitter, woody character. The alcohol is very well-hidden within the flavor profile. Every so often I get the slightest warming sensation on the finish, but I would have guessed that this beer was less than 9% ABV.

M- The feel of this beer is surprisingly silky and smooth, with the carbonation being less aggressive than I expected. It's still nice and lively, but it's very well-integrated into the lush, full-bodied mouthfeel.

D- As I said earlier, The 9% ABV is well-hidden amongst the myriad of flavors contained within this beer. This sits pretty heavy in the stomach, but I enjoyed every drop.

10-06-2008 04:12:53 | More by Tdizzle
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FtownThrowDown

Ohio

4.38/5  rDev +4.3%

Pours a dark burgundy, maroon in color. No head forms on the pour. Smell is dark fruit and some tartness. Smell is very nice. Taste is very dark, ripe fruit. There is a good amount of carbonation and a nice tartness as well. This is a surprisingly very good beer. I went in with a bit of reluctance due to the Abyss, but this is a very solid beer. Very nice and well done.

10-05-2008 03:50:54 | More by FtownThrowDown
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vasdef42

Colorado

4.33/5  rDev +3.1%

Crisp burgundy pour with a small tan head. Smell is nice and tart with cherries and granny smith apples, followed by more funk than i expected. Dark fruit and horse blanket finish the complex nose. By far the funkiest flemish red i have ever encountered, and i love it! The taste follows the nose for the most part: Sour cherries and apples, pears, followed by darker, over-ripe berries and plums, finishing with plenty of Brett funk, nicely balancing the sourness up front. More fruit emerges when it warms as the funk slightly subsides. there's some good body to this one with all the funk clinging to the sides of my mouth, but the sour fruit keeps me constantly sipping. this is by far the most complex flemish red ive had so far, and with all the Brett funk, my favorite at this point.

10-01-2008 21:33:54 | More by vasdef42
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Onibubba

Kentucky

4.47/5  rDev +6.4%

A clear red tinged mahogony / tawny port appearance. Slight dusting of cream colored head that did not last. Smell and taste are both very reminiscent of Rodenbach Grand Cru and, to a lesser degree, Duchesse. Best descriptor I can give is an Imperial Rodenbach Grand Cru. The aspect of this beer that is most amazing to me, would have to be the ABV. How on earth can this be 11%? The strength of this beer is simply buried by the craftsmanship involved. Quite drinkable, limited only by your tolerance for sweet sours. Most enjoyable.

10-01-2008 18:58:40 | More by Onibubba
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ArrogantB

Colorado

1.75/5  rDev -58.3%

22oz bottle $8.99. I poured this into a snifter and put on Pearl Jam (because I am corny and the namesake of this beer is a good song). Clear, ruby red which seems odd but then I am no expert on flanders reds or oud bruins. First whiff gave off burnt rubber but quickly moved on to a lightly sour vinegar aroma with cherries with the rubber still darting in from the back and a slight touch of alcohol. Nice sour flavors of cherries, just enough to make my mouth slightly pucker but nothing like Supplication or La Folie sour, much more muted and that rubber makes a brief appearance in the flavor. I actually wanted to like this more but I have had too many good sours this year and I am not sure I could taste any hint of wood and the rubber aromas and flavors were off-putting. This is not hard to drink however and does get better as it warms (like most beers).

update 10/12/08
The second bottle contains no rubber and tastes/smells better. Maybe because I drank some Isabelle just prior?

update 06/06/09
Dirty smell with a little cherry sour funk, tastes ok but then reminds me of chloroseptic, ugh. The smell gets much better as it hits room temp. The sournes is cool but the flavor is just ok

update 10/3/13 - 2012 vintage

fucking awful drainpour.

09-30-2008 02:59:27 | More by ArrogantB
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RblWthACoz

Pennsylvania

4.22/5  rDev +0.5%

Pours a clear ruby hued brown. Nose is appley vinegar. Wood is there too. Mellow but nice. Flavor is surprisingly smooth and unabrasive. Regardless of the intensity, it's still quite smooth. Very rounded flavor profile. Wood, maturely sweet fruits. It's just a nice combo. So smooth that I give the 4.5 for flavor; but I can see how that could get debatable. Smooth feel. Carbonation could stand to be slightly less biting IMO. I do like this beer. It's well made and another reason why I hate Deschutes for not distributing all the way over here.

Thanks to urwatuh8 for a sweet Deschutes hook up.

09-29-2008 03:52:58 | More by RblWthACoz
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ClavisAurea

New York

4.38/5  rDev +4.3%

Bottle served in a Tripel Karmeliet glass.

Appearance: poured red with 1.5 finger head

Smell: sour cherries, complex and sweet

Taste: complex sweetnedd, sour fruit, cherries and plums, cranberry, small hop bite, taste diminished when it warms up

I believe this is a better Flander's ale than Rodenbauchs and it should be served cold.

09-28-2008 00:59:39 | More by ClavisAurea
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koopa

New Jersey

4.2/5  rDev 0%

2008 Bottle received in a trade from Beereality thanks for the opportunity!

Appearance: A crisp mahogany without much murkyness. 1 finger cream colored head quickly dissipates to nothingness.

Smell: Very lively and enticing mix of grapes, oak, cherries, and some vinegar. Not as sour or as vinegar like as other oud bruins which leads me to thinking it will be quite drinkable.

Taste: Not as complex as the nose and my suspicion about the high drinkability is accurate. The fruitlike qualities of cherries, grapes, and red wine meet some butter cream, salt and vinegar and are presented in a well balanced mix. Aftertaste is minimal for the style. I was hoping for more from the wild yeast they boast about using on the bottle. The taste has many less dimensions than the smell.

Mouthfeel: Mildly dry, medium body for the style, low carbonation.

Drinkability: Extremely high for the style and for a 9% alcohol brew.

This is an outstanding American attempt at an Oud Bruin. Its well balanced and toned down compared to some of the more extreme examples of this style. If bold is what you are looking for you will be disappointed.

I've ordered 2 more bottles from Bottle Trek and am glad I did. My thoughts were to cellar them but the brew is already so drinkable and smooth that I don't think additional aging would enhance this brew.

2008 BOTTLE 9/27/09 REVIEW: 1 YEAR LATER TO THE DAY

I decided to crack open my last Dissident today and when I looked up my initial review I was surprised to see that I had written it exactly one year ago!

Appearance and smell are the same as a year ago. The flavor hasn't improved at all. If anything the yeast is the same to slightly more pronounced. Mouthfeel is getting a touch thinner. I liked it a touch better fresh. I'd say drink em now if you still have em.

2010 BOTTLE 3/25/11 REVIEW

A: Pours a red tinged caramel with a 1 finger off white (yellow to caramel) crown displaying mod. retention and lace.

S: Same as 2008 bottle samples...my favorite aspect of this brew!

T: Much more wine like than 2008 for me.

M: Same

O: 4.0

Label says best after 11.1.11 and I should have listened to it.

09-27-2008 19:30:15 | More by koopa
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abfraser

California

4.65/5  rDev +10.7%

On tap at CBS in SF. Picked up a few bottles too, so may edit this as I get into those over time.

A: A nice deep mahogany, not much of a head

S: Sweet tart cherries. Pleasant sourness

T: Awesome. A wonderful fruity flemish sour. Prominent tart fruit. Refreshing

M: Great acidity. This one goes down great.

D: Just about as drinkable as they come. I really can't believe this thing is 11% abv.

Truly an awesome beer. I'd put it up against the best Belgians out there.

09-26-2008 04:24:55 | More by abfraser
The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
93 out of 100 based on 955 ratings.