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Conflux No. 2 - Deschutes Brewery

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BA SCORE
89
very good

142 Reviews
THE BROS
77
okay

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Reviews: 142
Hads: 255
rAvg: 3.99
pDev: 8.02%
Wants: 23
Gots: 19 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian IPA |  7.30% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 07-26-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed in Collaboration with Boulevard Brewing Co.; released July 2011.

Made with orange peel, coriander, lemongrass and sage.

See:  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profi ... /423/68746  for the same recipe (with minor variances) brewed and bottled at Boulevard.

IBU: 49
ABV: 7.3%
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Photo of Sammy
3.7/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The other half of the collaboration tasted laterally. This was closer to the style, with a pronounced dryness. Significant coriander, white pepper. More perceived bitterness, with a mild hop aroma. Likely better consumed with food, I thought the drinkability was fine but limited. Slightly hazy whitish coloured body.Thanks again, Tom. (335 characters)

Photo of zeff80
4.2/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a hazy, golden-yellow color with a two-finger, head of bubbly white foam. It had good retention and left sticky rings of lace on the glass.

S - It smelled fruity and yeasty with a phenolic nose. I picked up some of the sage and lemongrass, too.

T - It tasted spicy with a phenolic bite. Notes of lemon, caramel and some wheat.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a dry finish.

O - This is very good. Although after a side by side comparison, I like Boulevard's version a little better. (529 characters)

Photo of Kegatron
3.5/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle into a couple of tulip glasses. I picked this one up at the brewery in last early September and enjoyed it about a month later.

Pours a hazed gold initially, which does eventually clear out, with a finger of frothy bright-white head. This readily maintains a rich and foamy ½ finger, which leaves back a decent amount of sudsy looking lacing. The aroma is very airy feeling the nose, with grassand bubblegum notes and then a strong spicy mix of pepper and coriander. Zesty lemon and some greener bitter citrus round out the edges and work well with the crisp tanginess of the wheat in the back.

The taste is prickly feeling on the palate, with a sharp grassy and slightly piney bitterness that is made even bolder by the strong spiciness of this. The wheat base has a crisp bready twang to it and an almost tart feel that compliments the notes of lemon and orange peel that are present. The finish is dry, pithy, and very spicy, with an extra bit of lingering tartness hanging in there as well. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, maybe a little heavier feeling and sharp on top before getting more smooth and creamy on the tongue. You can definitely feel that 7% though, with some underlying alcohol heft that is holding this back for me.

While I found this to be quite unique, it ultimately just didn’t work that well for me. The combination of the spice from the Belgian yeast and the coriander coupled with the thickness of the wheat profile and then the big ABV on top of that just made even half this bottle tough to drink. Maybe even more of a hop presence might have lent this some needed crispness to help things go down a little easier. At any rate, it’s definitely different. (1,706 characters)

Photo of Jason
3.35/5  rDev -16%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22oz bomber with a freshness date.

LOOK: Nice display of lacing, hazed (almost turbid) golden yellow

SMELL: Spicy, perfumey, herbal hop, dough bread, fresh grass, botanical

TASTE: Hoppy, slightly soapy, bready, chalky yeast, spicy, warming alcohol, exotic fruit, peppery, floral, lemon pith, semi-sweet finish

A bit too much spicing IMO, I can appreciate the brewer's intention but just seems a bit muddled to me. Less spicing and a dryer palate to start with would have worked for me. (490 characters)

Photo of RblWthACoz
4.3/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

So this is labeled, per the brewery, as a white ipa. I can see that. Has all the Belgian characteristics to it, and very evenly so, if I may say. Spice tones from hops come in and edge things off. I like this brew. It's unique and interesting and very well done. The mesh of characteristics comes together nicely and it works. I'd love to try the Boulevard version. (365 characters)

Photo of MasterSki
3.68/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of joshuaseresse. Served in a Surly Darkness glass. Best before November 10th, 2011 - just in time.

A - A finger-plus of white foam settles to a thin cap, thick collar, and ample lacing. Lightly hazed golden straw body with a few streams of bubbles present.

S - Smells like a witbier, but with some very mild tropical fruit hop notes in the periphery. Plenty of pale malts, wheat, vanilla and lemon peel, and a dash of coriander and white pepper. Pretty similar to the Boulevard version. Spice intensity grows as it warms up.

T - While I found the Boulevard version suffered from non-sequitur flavor combinations, this version instead suffers from being dull and understated. There's some wheat, Belgian yeast, and a touch of hop bitterness in the finish - perhaps a hint of peppercorn as well. It's possible this has fallen off in the past three months, but I'm guessing this version just wasn't as intense as the Boulevard (for better or for worse).

M - Carbonation seems much higher than Boulevard's take - bordering on unpleasant. Medium bodied, with a lightly resinous finish, and a bit of warmth on the back of the throat.

D - I've liked Boulevard's take on this recipe better. A bit of my opinion is probably informed by freshness, but in this case it's the feel that I find markedly inferior. Still - I like these IPA/Wit hybrids more than I enjoy most "Belgian" IPAs. This paired nicely with my vegan pizza slice. (1,443 characters)

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.02/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Deschutes Conflux Series No. 2, Boulevard Conflux: Ale Brewed with Orange peel and coriander with spices added. Brewed and bottled by Deschutes Brewery, Bend, Oregon. Second in a series, this citrusy, smooth white india pale ale is a fortuitous meeting of Deschutes' hop skills and Boulevards deft wheat touch. What's 1800 miles when a great beer is at stake?
Isn't it how it always works? A few brewers sit around tippling and waxing poetic about what-ifs, wild ideas, and untapped dreams when one suddenly proclaims "why not?" So the conflux series was born, bravely leaping corporate and geographic barriers to jointly explore uncharted beeratory. Cheers, fellow beer explorers, cheers."

Hazy, cloudy bright orange, afloat with flecks, and a long-lasting, if slim, snowy- white head.

The nose is exactly what you'd imagine. An explosion of orange peel, coriander and hops. Heavy on the orange and spice, with hops providing excellent bitter balance.

In the mouth, boom boom boom, there it goes. Big and bitter, a wheat IPA, ...what? Huh? All the lightness and texture, the citric and spice flavor of a wittier, and the crisp, hoppy appeal of an IPA. Light bodied, brief finish. Hits the palate and quits it. Thirst quenching, distinctly downable.

But, in spite of that, I can't say I like it. I mean, love it. I like it. It's good, sweet, bitter, hoppy, tasty enough...and, you can drink it. But, this conflux does not flip any particular switch for me. Que cera cer (1,473 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.58/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled August 2011
A steady pour, with just a hint of aggression, into my large Tripel Karmeliet tulip glass produces a four finger thick, pale, tan tinged, cream colored head; this leaves some nice wispy lacing on the sides of the glass as it slowly subsides. The beer is a pale-amber / light gold color that shows a hazy, straw gold color when held up to the light. The beer smells quite herbal, with a fair amount of earthy spiciness and lots of dried hay / grass aromatics. I am not sure if spices were added to this, but there is a definite spicy presence to this beer, it definitely reminds me of coriander, perhaps a touch of white pepper and some woody ginger and lemon notes. There is a backdrop of more fruity, hop-like, citrus notes towards the end, though this almost plays a secondary role to the up front, though still subtle spiciness. There is a certain mustiness to the aroma here and it mixes with a dry, pale cracker like grain character.

There is a huge up front hop character that comes through quite a bit more clearly than it did in the aroma. There is a big, though dry, citrus zest character that has notes of Meyer Lemon, tart grapefruit zest, touches of tangelo zest and some lychee. Towards the middle and finish of this beer an earthy and grassy spiciness starts to kick in; it has notes of white pepper, lemon grass (with an emphasis on the grass portion), definite earthy coriander as well as some phenolics in the finish that contribute a slight, sort of plastic like note and perhaps some clove too (now that I have noticed the phenolics). The combination of hop notes (herbal and bitterness) with the earthy spiciness and the phenolics adds a bit of sharpness to the finish. The body of this beer is nice and light and quaffable, it has just enough character to not be overly thin though.

I wasn’t really aware that this had spices and a Belgian yeast used in the recipe. I am still not absolutely sure this is true, but it certainly seems like it as there are a whole lot of flavors in this beer that are not at all part of a traditional hop profile. Not at all what I was expecting, but it is still quite tasty and I am definitely enjoying this beer. I wouldn’t mind if the combination of sharp herbal / yeast / spice character in the finish was tempered quite a bit & I think a juicy hop fruit character (which is what I was expecting before having opened this beer) would really have been nice as well. (2,447 characters)

Photo of Halcyondays
4.45/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

On-tap at Beachwood II,

A: Pours a translucent yellow with a small white head, some lace.

S: Coriander, spice is heavy, with some earthy hops.

T: Strikingly good. The sage which I picked out without knowing it was in there defines the beer which I like. Reminds me a lot of Craftsman Triple White Sage. The flavours of the wit and IPA are balanced seamlessly with a lot of white pepper and coriander along with some sweet grass and lemon. Delicious.

M: Firm carbonation, medium-bodied, frothy at times. Fresh and full-flavoured.

O: Fantastic, Deschutes once again proves why they're one of the best in the business. One thing I'm still wondering, is there a Conflux No.1? (676 characters)

Photo of Mebuzzard
4.3/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Got this in the store the other day to be different--other stores have had the Boulevard bottle, I wanted the Deschutes. Silly me....

But I'm glad we got this one. Very nice beer. The label is right: Deschutes' mad hops skills + Boulevard's wheat skills. Great beer.

Hazy light golden pour. Huge head; white, frothy, sticky. Great lacing.

Pried the cap off and a gush of coriander and spice aromas come forth. Light, crisp smell to it. Hops aren't shy. Some earth, mostly citrus (lemon zest) and green leaves.

Taste follows the nose. Citrus (lemon), zest, spice, coriander, sage leaves. Snappy. It's a bit light in the flavor, but it's a good taste. For any type of IPA I seek a more structured flavor profile. Not that this one is weak or loose, it's just light...to me. Still very good. The malt profile is apparent.

The mouthfeel makes up for lightness in the flavors. Snappy. Crisp. Makes it seem more full without the syrupiness of some IPAs.

Very nice beer. Good summer brew. Nice collaboration, again, from Boulevard. (1,034 characters)

Photo of tempest
3.76/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a bomber at the Coalmine in Colorado Springs, CO. There's something a little too sharp and vegetal in the aroma, sort of like bitter greens in a salad. I think there might be too much sage (at least for my liking). Otherwise, there's a creamy orange and grapefruit hops character that has a pleasant bite, but isn't overpowering. There are also slight notes of cherry and earthy, sharp lemongrass. Aside from the aroma, this is a fine hybrid and creative beer. Worth a try. (483 characters)

Photo of HopHead84
3.2/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

8/13/2011

On tap at Churchill's.

A: Transparent straw gold with a white cap.

A: Pronounced sage with lemongrass. Lightly grainy with a touch of caramel. Earthy hop notes and faint hay.

T: Sweet sage accompanies a peppery spiciness and ample bread. Caramel is evident. There's a lower moderate earthy bitterness with a little lemon. Light apple notes.

M: Light body with high carbonation. The mouthfeel is dry.

Overall: This was merely okay. Between Carlos and I the pint was not finished. (495 characters)

Photo of barleywinefiend
4.35/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured a hazy, light yellow color with good carbonation leaving a nice white cap and some lacing

S: Orange peel, spice and grass

T: The first thing I though of was a Wit/IPA mix. Hints at citrus, a bit of orange peel and lemon zest, some spice, a very earthy notes, some wheat perhaps, grassy

M: Light to medium body, crisp, refrsshing

O: Pretty good overall (365 characters)

Photo of TheSevenDuffs
4.12/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle with best before date of 11/10/11 poured in to Duvel tulip.

A - Hazy golden yellow colour; very slightly translucent. One finger of bubbly white head that quickly receded in to a ring around the glass.

S - Banana, citrus, cloves, bready malts. The aroma is a cross between an IPA and a wheat beer. A little different than a typical Belgian IPA with the American IPA-like citrus notes.

T - Belgian yeast, banana, cloves, citrus and bready malts. A nice bitterness is present and is complimented by a semi-sweet malt backbone. the finish is dry and bitter.

M - Light to medium body; moderate carbonation. (616 characters)

Photo of JohnGalt1
4.2/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a couple of these at the COOP tonight... paid ~$7... been working late and need a beer. Poured into my Portsmouth tulip... nice stark white 2 finger head.... great lacing and retention.. the brew is hazed pale golden.

Nose hits the nail squarely on the head... every bit a big-boned witbier with a nice albeit lite hop aroma... good Belgian phenols with a decent punch of coriander and maybe some orange peel that melds well with the citrus hops.

Hops are bigger on the palate with a mildly pronounced bitterness that quickly gives way to the Belgian notes... the yeast phenols melt effortlessly into a tiny bit of peppercorn and maybe what I guess is the sage (a bit antiseptic) ... no real "orange peel", instead a bit of lemon zest that I am digging... I would still prefer a bit more citrus hops, but that is a minor bitch.

The flavor of this brew is pretty surprising.. very fresh and all the intended layers are there and mesh nicely.. it is certainly more of a big "Wit" for me than a "Belgian IPA", but it is done very well. Refreshing and very drinkable in this heat.

This should EASILY be a summer seasonal for Deschutes. I hear that we are also getting a keg of the Boulevard version... I am damn interested in trying them side by side.

4/4/4.5/4/4 (1,275 characters)

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.65/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Nostradamus flute glass. Pours a cloudy yellow orange amber. Two finger fine white head. Sweet malts and wheat aroma with a hint of spices and citrus. Unusual flavor of neutral hops, orange, light citrus and Belgian spicing. Creamy bodied. Moderate hop finish with a bit of peppery spicing. An unusual and hard to classify beer. Complex and interesting flavor progresion. Seems understated, but as it progresses, the complexity shows. I really liked this one. The Boulevard version is a bit more strightforwardly flavored, but I like the almost aged mellowness of the Deschutes a bit better. Both are excellent. (625 characters)

Photo of beertunes
3.52/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A "White IPA"? Do I judge it as an IPA or as a Wit? Inside of the cap said "Bravely Done". It's beer, how much bravery is really involved? It's been a while since I've had a beer with this many issues right upfront.

Poured into tall wine glass. Poured a nice golden white color, similar to a nice Triple, with a tall, over 2 inches, fluffy, white head that had moderate retention and left light to medium lacing.

The aroma had a lot of spice and yeast, much like a Wit, and didn't seem to have much of a hop profile. The was just a hint of the claimed orange peel and a nice bit of grain. On the tongue there was a crisp grain/wheat flavor to support the yeast and spiciness.

The body was surprisingly thin, but was crisp, clean and dry. Drinkability was pretty good, my 22 went away pretty quickly. Overall, a pretty nice, interesting brew. Worth trying if you see a bottle. (878 characters)

Photo of flagmantho
4.05/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from 22oz bomber into a tulip. Bottle says best by 11/10/11, so I'm in under the wire.

Appearance: silvery-golden hue with a shimmering haze and two thick fingers of creamy, frothy white foam. It looks like a witbier and, by that measure, looks quite good indeed.

Smell: funky and spicy; it smells like a funkily-hopped French saison, if I had to venture a comparison, but it has a smooth and sweet undertone which I quite like.

Taste: quite good indeed. Funky, earthy hops complement well the slightly funky yeast character in this brew; it manages to be sweet and silky as well as deeply earthy. It is truly a conflux of styles as well as brewers; I think this beer is a bit odd but a success nonetheless.

Mouthfeel: light body but HUGE creaminess. It doesn't seem that carbonated until you swish it around, and then BOOM. Silky, creamy and delightful.

Overall: I like this beer a great deal. I hope it has a future and doesn't remain just a one-off. (964 characters)

Photo of Haybeerman
4.42/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pale yellow color; slight haze. Poured a 3 finger fluffy stark white head with excellent retention. Decanted continually. Laced in wavy patches.

S: Sharp citrus, lemon grass and coriander. Yeast; fruity esters and pepper. Wheat malt. Nice hop and malt character.

T: Wheat malt and sharp lemon citrus in the opening. Gives way to smooth fruit and coriander. Peppery spice in a fairly crisp and refreshing finish.

M: Medium-to-light body. Ample carbonation; ;very active. Crisp and refreshing with a nice balance of wheat malt and hop character (throw in the yeast too).

O: Interesting and fairly complex. Good balance. Has "beer character" - hops, yeast and malt - in a beer that is refreshing yet has some body. (718 characters)

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I did a side by side tasting with the Collaboration #2.

22oz bottle poured into a Deschutes Snifter glass.

A - Pours a very light orange with a two finger head. Lighter in color and less head than the Collaboration version. Better retention and lacing as well.

S - Slight Belgian yeast, lemony and some pepper.

T - Lemon-grass, hoppy grassy flavors.

D - Good carbonation and light body.

O - More light hoppy and citrusy than the Collaboration version. I preferred this take over the Collaboration #2. (506 characters)

Photo of Beerandraiderfan
4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Belgian IPA? I wondered how this would be classified on BA, at first, I thought witbier, then ipa, but belgian ipa, makes sense I guess.

Light yellow appearance with tons of orange peel floating around it. I like. Good dry hoppy aroma, citrus, mild coriander, so glad they didn't overdo that, such a deal breaker for me sometimes.

Taste, easy drinking, best of both worlds, solid ipa hopping, but reserved in its witbier components, not an even blend thankfully, but the orange peel works with either style, so amping that up here worked quite nicely. Price point at $8 was the only thing that would keep me from going after this one again.

White IPA indeed, perfect descriptor. (683 characters)

Photo of rudzud
4.08/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Shared at a private lil tasting, reviewed from notes.

A - Clear golden hue with a nice good fluffy white head tha receeds to leave good haloing. Not too bad at all.

S - Nice belgian spice and yeaster along with fair citrus hop qualities.

T - Similar to the nose. Smooth, nice balance between wheat and hops. Like a belgian Allagash white. Pretty tasty.

M - Light, dry, very refreshing. Would be awesome on a summer day.

O - Overall, really liked this beer. Good combination of belgian yeast and wheat. (506 characters)

Photo of dirtylou
3.94/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber, Special Brews

appearance: served in a brookyln shaker pint, extremely dull pale yellow - looks almost like lemonade

smell: lemon zest...very similar to a witbier - lots of spice and yeast, white pepper and corriander

taste: i dont know what the difference, technically speaking, between the deschutes and boulevard versions is but my bias inclines me to automatically assume the boulevard version is superior. Light and zesty - lemon juice, crisp yeast, white pepper, corriander, light citrus. Pairs well with my curried lamb dinner

mouthfeel: quite light, refreshing

overall: good - bouleavard version worth the extra change (643 characters)

Photo of ccrida
3.47/5  rDev -13%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bomber poured into a shaker pint, Conflux No. 2 is bright yellow with lots of floaties, and a white head leaving scattered lace.

Smell is citrus, lots of lemon.

Taste is all over the place, pretty complex. At first I'm tasting an acrid citrus spice-bomb, like chewing on coriander. Then I get some lemony hops, citra. And then, especially after a bite of cranberry in my salad, it's a barnyard brett attack. Oh, and it's yeasty, not esters, but yeast slurry. All three competing flavors (hops, spice, and brett) come off sharply bitter on the finish.

Mouthfeel is dry, light bodied.

Drinkability is ok. There's just a enough wit-like brightness to make it palatable, and it certainly wins points for being interesting...but the overall acridness doesn't warrant another pour. Would have preferred to have this fresh (best by date isn't until 11/10), it's already 3 months old and I'm sure the hop/brett ratio is rapidly skewing. (936 characters)

Photo of popery
4.17/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

I don't know if I'm just in the mood for this beer or what, but I'm really enjoying it, even though it's not particularly interesting. On the other hand, it is quite refreshing and very well-made.

A: The beer pours a pale yellow-gold with a big frothy white head. Bubbles cling to the walls. It would probably be perfectly transparent if I not for a bit of yeast kicked up by my handling of the bottle.

S: The smell is very pleasant. It has a very floral hop aroma. It's all wildflowers, honeysuckle, potpourri and earth. The witbier spicing comes through with some coriander and a good dose of orange peel. Bready wheat spice makes a definite apperance, as well. There's some fruity Belgian phenolic character, but it's on the mild side and stays far from cloying territory. It all blends together well without any of the notes clashing or sticking out unduly.

T: It's yeastily dry with a good dose of orange peel and hop bitterness in the finish. The beer is refreshing and drinkable. You get a bit more Belgian character, but it's all light malt and fruit notes. "Belgian IPA" doesn't really describe this beer well, as it's definitely an IPA melded with a witbier. It's summery, spicy and lightly hoppy. The hops are wonderfully restrained while still making a significant contribution.

M: Carbonation is fairly strong. There's no booze to be found. The beer is light on the palate and lacks any rough edges. It tastes fresh. There's a sort of saison-ish quality to it.

O: This beer is more than the sum of its parts. It's hard to stop drinking and easy to like. I feel like I should give it an even higher score, but there's just not quite enough to grasp on to in any particular category. I just enjoy drinking this beer. (1,732 characters)

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Conflux No. 2 from Deschutes Brewery
89 out of 100 based on 142 ratings.