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The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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Ratings: 590
Reviews: 227
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 14.66%
Wants: 67
Gots: 186 | FT: 7
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.
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Ratings: 590 | Reviews: 227
Photo of JSBuckeye
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Good, solid beer with a very strong aromatic scent. Great complex layers to flavor

Photo of Sammy1184
5/5  rDev +30.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

It's my favorite drink. The hue of it hummed. The body is not too sweet, chewy but subtly dry. Wonderful phenols from the yeast... I miss this drink

Photo of AndyAvalanche
3.98/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

22 oz bomber poured into and oversized wine glass/goblet. Liquid comes out a bright blood orange with a lot of particles and sediment floating around in there. Glows a slightly lighter shade of the same color when held up to the light, but the light barley seeps through. Small fizzy white cap that goes away fairly quickly leaving just a ring around the edges of the glass. Not much in the way of lacing.

I initially didn't like the smell, but it grew on me quickly. Smells of vinous fruits, honey, oak, slight citrus and maybe a bit of a tart/acidic fruit like cranberry or pomegranate. A bit of sweet grain kicking around in the nose as well.

Taste is a step up, and slightly more representative of the style. Sweet maltiness comes out strong in the flavor, miixed in with the oak that has a strong presence and even a little bit of rye. Still theres's plenty of veinous fruits.

Mouthfeel is easily the best part of this beer. It's light bodied but it somehow works, because it still has a lingering flavor. Modest carbonation level the flavor cover all of your taste buds and it has a nice clean, semi-dry, bitter finish. Crazy drinkable, probably the most drinkable 11% beer I've had period.

Great beer overall. Maybe SLIGHTLY past it's prime, I slightly wish I had it this summer because it has a lot of refreshing qualities, but it's a good quad. I like it a lot. Thanks Geoff for the recommendation and trade, a solid brew that I'm really glad to say if've tried.

Photo of SHODriver
4/5  rDev +4.7%

A: poured into a snifter to a clear and deep orange with a finger of dense white head that fades quickly to a small mat
S: smells of stone fruits, dark fruits, wine, oak, and caramel
T: taste is somewhat muted but notes of wine barrels, a little oak, some caramel, vanilla, pomegranate and some spicy yeast notes. swallow is a little alcohol, some phenols and spice, plus a lingering pomegranate and fruitiness. Rye whiskey becomes a little more apparent with each sip in a good way but the beer still has great complexity
M: fairly full in body with soft but present carbonation and a dry finish
O: This beer is one smooth sipper with great flavors that blend and play well together. It stood up well even though this one has a best before date instead of a best after date.

Photo of LambicPentameter
4.06/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Enjoyed out of a 22 oz brown bomber with a "best by" date of 8/4/12, which is hilarious because all of Deschutes bigger, barrel-aged beers now come with a "best after" date. This is the third beer in sequence of my Conflux No. 1 deconstruction tasting. Poured into an old fashioned glass.

Appearance (3.75) - Pours a golden amber color, much lighter than you expect from a quad, with even some hints of goldenrod where the light passes through and refracts in the bottom of the glass. It was also hard to coax much of a head out on this one, building up to a half finger at best before almost immediately disappearing to leave a ringlet of white suds and a waif of film partially across the liquid surface.

Smell (4.0) - Pleasant notes of graham cracker and vanilla alongside some subtle hints of medium-fruit in the vein of figs and of course, pomegranate. The barrel is definitely present and imparts subtle vinous notes with some malbec-like spiciness and oak tannins.

Taste (4.25) - While the aroma left me a tiny bit wanting, the taste is really quite nice, with a pretty heavy presence from the pomegranate. Luckily, that fruity sweetness, which also calls to mind cranberry gives way to some richer notes of vanilla and clove spice, with some hints of the rye whiskey barrels in which it was partially aged, but pretty faint. I could do with a little more rye whiskey.

Mouthfeel (3.75) - Lighter bodied than I would have expected, but perhaps the extended time aging has allowed this beer to take a downward turn as far as body goes. Moderate to low carbonation at this point in it's life cycle and a slightly lackluster effervescence on the tongue.

Overall (4.0), an interesting take on a quad. At this point in time, I don't really get a lot of the quintessential dark fruits that you expect from a Belgian quad, but this one steps a little outside the box with the use of pomegranate molasses and being partially aged in wine and rye barrels. It's hard to compare with Not The Stoic, given the time lapse, but this one has held up quite nicely, especially for being over two years past the enjoy by date.

Photo of BierJager89
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours an opaque orange with a white head.

S: Must, orange and stale malt in the nose.

T: Strawberry, orange, stale malt, must.

M: Medium bodied and smooth.

O: A bit of a disappointment, but it's still a pretty good beer. I would recommend this, but it doesn't really taste like you would think it would, based on the description (barrel aged quad).

Photo of bizweasel
4.54/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Amazing. Belgian yeast (actually a pretty light touch) along with some strong sweetness from the malt. Sweet like a good barleywine would be, a sweetness that seems totally natural in this context. Most beers that are in the style don't choose to go so sweet, but for this beer it really, really works. Absolutely my new favorite.

Photo of ccrida
4.21/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Lost review in browser, oh well. Cellared upon release, this was my first one. Not a quad by my book at all, but as BSPA, I really thought it was good. I liked the play of the fruit with the robust yet clean alcohol character. The barrel play was modest, but suited the malt bill. Not what I was expected, but solid Belgian style ale. I'm curious how my other bottle will age, but I probably won't want it to loose all the fruit, and therefore don't have high expectations for longer term. I'll check back in within 2-3 years.

Photo of ThePorterSorter
4.14/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Best by 8/4/12 (about a year past that date)
The beer pours a hazy/speckled dark amber with a creamy off-white head that laces. The nose has huge notes of plumb, tart cherries, cherry blossoms, and malt. The taste presents the same bold stone fruits upfront with a blast of warm, booze soaked grains in the finish. The body is a bit lighter than other quads comparatively, but well carbonated, fruity, bready, and has masked booze in the finish. The aftertaste is bitter/rindy and a bit off putting, but certainly doesn't ruin the beer. Considering the price/availability and all additional components of this review, I'd say this quad is worthy of a try, but not more impressive than a 3 philosophers (for instance).

Photo of Tone
3.79/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a cloudy, copper/golden color. 1/4 inch head of an off-white color. Decent retention and slight lacing. Smells of sweet malt, yeast, hint of grape, slight raspberry, alcohol, and a hint of wheat. Fits the style of a Quadrupel. Mouth feel is sharp and clean, with an average carbonation level. Tastes of alcohol, yeast, grapes, hint of citrus, sweet malt, and a hint of spice. Overall, alcohol is not over-powering, which I enjoy. The body at first, reminded me of a blend of Lindeman's Framboise and Kwak. Weak appearance and complexity, but good aroma, body, and blend.

Photo of ESPNman
4.02/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Best-by date on the bottle 8/4/12
I had one before the best-by, and thought it was too hot.... I sat this one down a little while longer to see if the alcohol bite mellowed. It has not.

A - The appearance isn't that of your standard quad. It pours a light, almost strawberry-blonde. Very little head, zero retention, no lacing. The bubbles rise slowly from the bottom of the glass, making the beer look a lot thicker than it is. Overall, it's just not a normal quad color.

S - Pomegranate, sweet malts, syrup, a bit of oak, and a little bit of candied sugar on the nose. A little bit of pepper, and a lot of vinous alcohol.

T - More light fruit, lots of white wine flavors coming though. Moderately sweet, with a wine-like alcoholic finish that carries a surprising bit of tart with it. Finishes medium-dry.

O - Interesting take on the Belgian quad, but ultimately disappointing for what I was expecting. Good, but not great. For such a hard-to-find beer, you'd expect it to be a little more representative of the style.

Photo of blakelive784
4.01/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

22 fl oz brown glass bottle served in snifter, reviewed live:

A - Pours a cloudy, vibrant orange golden color with two fingers of fizzy white head, lively carbonation and thick yeast particles. Retention's terrible. Not what I was expecting but it's inviting nonetheless.

S - Fruit heavy. Pear, banana, apple and sweet pomegranate juice all come to mind. Crystal malts. Incredibly fresh, especially considering its age. Light indistinct spice. I don't find any oak on the nose. No alcohol.

T - Follows the nose closely. Pear and apple give a cidery feel. Pale base and crystal malt body support the fruity esters nicely. Very, very subtle vinous oak notes, but I still don't find any bourbon. Light fresh pomegranate. No alcohol comes through at all. I'm having it.

M - Medium bodied and crisp. Perfect thickness.

D - It won't satisfy your craving if you're looking for a typical quad, but it's one hell of a beer. Insanely drinkable at 11%. I'll be having it again.

Photo of sirtomtom
2.34/5  rDev -38.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Drank on 3/4/2013. Best After date of 8/2012

A: Pours a hazy golden orange with a shallow white head, dissipating quickly leaving a thin white ring on the glass.

S: Nuts, seeds, wet soil. Rather odd

T: A bit sweet, malty, nutty, again an attribute that reminds me of wet soil, finishing with a bit of tartness. A nice bit of hot alcohol after the finish.

M: Moderately carbonated, a bit sweet, with a dry finish.

O: Definitely odd for a Quad. Nothing really remarkable about it, except the odd flavors. Definitely disappointing for one of Deschutes's reserve beers.

Photo of rawfish
4.14/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours medium amber, light for a quad, dense cap of tight off white foam, finger high with pretty good retention. Lacing doesn't quite form but there is some clinging bubbles to the glass. Effervescent bubbles and what looks like fruit pieces or yeast chunks floating in the glass.

Candi spun sugar, light sweetness. Tart fruit, apple cider, red berries, tangerines, lemon and vinegar with complexities of whiskey, muscat and oak. Interesting, and bright, almost souring aroma to it.

Taffy sweetness to the malt, brown sugar, with fruit flavors; apples, pear, white grapes, lemon with a slight edge of green aplle, lemon tartness. I really do get some oaky complexity coupled with a light touch of whiskey. Finish is dominated with tartness of grapes and a mild sweetness. Tart and drying oak at the finish, quite nice.

High carbonation muddles the flavors a bit but it's easy to drink. Medium body and the alcohol has really faded.

Outside impressions of this beer had me worried, a year after acquiring this one it's time to crack it open. This is a quad with almost no Belgian flair to it, if uncategorized it's a complex beer mixing lightly toasted and sweet malt, oak and lightly sour fruit aspects. Rather than Stoic and rigid, this beer dances over the confines of the definition "quad" and delivers a delightful sensory experience.

Photo of Resuin
4.29/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a bomber into a Westvleteren goblet. No 'drink by 'date on the bottle, but I know the date for The Stoic was like 6 months ago. I'm sure this one can age decently though.

Appearance: Pours a desert-pear, light brown, dark orange color with minimal off-white head.

Smell: Some funk comes out initially followed by sweet, Belgian aromas. Definitely vanilla and fruit as well dominating this smell.

Taste: This is a very sweet beer. Plenty of spices come out in this one - coriander, pineapple, even some plum. Extremely balanced and smooth-tasting, especially for this ABV.

Mouth-feel: Excellent mouth-feel - a good amount of carbonation, on the lighter-bodied side but not light.

Overall: A very nice "quad". Definitely has plenty of Belgian quad qualities, but it is significantly different from any quad I have had. The pomegranate definitely adds some interesting qualities and gives it some interesting funk. A lovely beer.

Photo of Karbella
4.22/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Note: Purchased and opened after it's "Best by" date of 08/04/12

A - Pour dark murkey almost orange gold color, very light fizzy head. Lots of fine bubbles

S - Estery, almost get a little pear as well as some apple. A fair amount of spicy sweetness as well.

T - Strong spiced cider taste, a lot of apple and pear. Finishes with a little wine and booze.

M - I think this was the bottle a little long, too much carbonation but otherwise very smooth with a medium body.

O - I think I would have enjoyed it slightly better in it's prime, but a very good Belgian. One of the best I've had from a large American brewery. Easy to tell that it was done with a vast amount of precision and care. I hope this isn't just a one time release so I can see what they do with it again. The nose matches and compliments the taste very well, and it overall has a nice amount of complexity to it that doesn't stray too far in any direction.

Photo of Knapp85
3.82/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a light brown color with a nice looking white head on top. The retention is pretty good as well as the lacing. The smell of the beer gives off some quad like aromas, there is some fruity and bready aromas. The barrel aging aromas are prominent. The taste of the beer has a slight tartness to it. The flavors of dark fruits come out with some oak elements in there also. The mouthfeel had a solid amount to carbonation, the body is a little on the thin side. Overall it's a decent quad. The color is a little on the light side and is need a little more body.

Photo of peensteen
4.17/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep orange colour, ring of white head, some lace as well. Smell is quite oaky, fruity and vinous, quite a bit of funk and a bit of musty brett presumably from the wine barrels, some candy apple present as well. Taste is yeasty and fruity, apple followed by oak and some funk, brett, more fruit toward the finish and maybe a hint of whisky however it does get buried by tons of fruit and funky oak here. Light-medium carbonation, medium feel. This was quite a nice and certainly interesting brew, not a quad in my books but certainly a pleasure to have had.

Photo of Sammy
3.88/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

good beer, but not your father’s quad. Rather mid yellow with big lasting head, lace. Sweet, and some tartness from the pomegranate. Overall I get more berry than pomegranate.Complex, sweet dominates but it is not cloying. Smooth mouthfeel and good drinkability. Thanks Presario.

Photo of whoneeds8
4.02/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Best by date: 8/4/2012
Batch: H

Poured into a Chimay Chalice a golden orange. Odd for the style. Nice one finger white head that disapated quicly. Bare minimal lacing. Scent is strong of raisins and grapefruit. Taste is strong of grapes, either a grape flavor from the wine barrels or the raisin flavor that goes with a Quad. There is also a vanilla note from the oak barrels that is noticiable in the after taste. The mouthfeel has a correct body weight for the style, and the carbonation is suprisingly high for it's age and being barrel aged. One quarter of my chalice has gone by and it's still producing a large amount of bubbles.

Overall, it's an odd Quad. The wine barrels are still noticeable. But I can't find any whiskey except for what is questionably a whisky burn way beyond the after taste of my palette.

Photo of cvm4
4.08/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours a very cloudy/murky copper. Nice one finger head that leaves nothing behind.

S - Caramel & candied fruit along with some spices.

T - Lots of sweet & spices going on here. Getting a lot of bananas & pears. I can't muddle through the spices but it's very pronounced.

M - Medium body & carbonation. Can't detect much alcohol.

O - I'm loving this quad. Much more than the belgians I've had.

Photo of denver10
3.05/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Not quite sure what to expect from this one but super curious to try it.

Pours a hazy golden with a little bit of an orange tint. A white head that quickly recedes. Aroma offers some belgian yeast giving off some fruity esters.,big banana,some apple and then there's the pomegranate giving off some nice tartness, the barrels, and some alcohol. Flavor is really quite interesting. You get the typcial belgian quad flavors with the yeast and its fruity esters (largely banana) but you also get the pomegranate which cuts the sweetness and offers some tartness to this thing, and then some discrete woodiness. Some alcohol in the finish but not too bad, given the earlier reviews here time must have tamed it some. A fuller mouthfeel, some creaminess not much activity. Overall, I liked this one a lot more upon my first few sips than I did on my last few sips. I shared this bottle with someone else and glad I did because I couldn't have drank more than the 12 oz's I got. I guess I'd consider an alright brew in small portions, but the fact that it got a little cloying for me the more of it I drank was definitely a let down. Interesting beer, yes, good beer? Not as much so.

Photo of deltatauhobbit
4.25/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours into a chalice a hazy golden orange color, head is very minimal with hardly any lacing on the glass.

Smell starts out with a strong tart fruity aroma, pomegranate, Belgian candied sugar add to the aroma, some other spicy esters, hints of alcohol is evident to the nose.

Taste is rather light and crispy for a Quad, likely from the pomegranate which adds a nice fruity tartness, not overly sweet but plenty enough from the candied sugar, carbonation is active and bubbly in the mouth even though it wasn't in the glass, alcohol is more than evident but isn't too distracting.

An interesting Quad, definitely more fruity than most so if fruit in a beer is a turnoff to you, you might want to avoid this one.

Photo of AgentMunky
4.34/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a Koningshoven chalice. Best by 4 August 2012. Batch H. 11% ABV.

A: No head. Golden hazy-bright. Pale for a quad.

S: Strong and very sweet. Heavy, spicy fruit. Touch of vanilla. Heavy alcohol.

T: This is a damned good beer. Spicy, layered, and delicate. Deep grapes, heavy liquored fruits, and spicy-tart dessert. Engaging, though not transcendental Belgian yeast. I might not be able to differentiate this from a Belgian quad (which is a huge compliment). Tart alcohol reminds me distinctly of a pina colada...both pineapple and coconut are inexplicably (but undeniably) present. The finish is pleasant and reminiscent of fresh peach.

M: Nice, but unnoticeable.

O: A great beer and an exceptional quad. Highly recommend to (and drinkable by) all. Will have again.

Photo of angrybabboon
3.75/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for giving this to me for my birthday last year (now sharing it with him)

Consumed 10/12/12

Appearance: Hazy, dark orange/light amber with some gold around the edges - Pours with a little, off-white head and leaves some nice spotty lacing

Smell: Fruity and Belgian - pomegranate is pretty obvious, works very well with the yeasty banana esters and bubblegum - fruity sweetness and some malty sweetness - cooked, caramelized malts, nice but not really a quad-level of malts - spicy yeastiness and some very light rye spiciness - some booze as well

Taste: Sweet and fruity, in a good way - pomegranate, bananas, and other light fruits including pears, apples - spicy Belgian yeast, with some clove, and some rye - some oak, in nice balance - caramel malts - some booze, as would be expected with the ABV

Mouthfeel: Medium body, adequately carbonated, some alcohol heat

Overall: Strange but pleasant

I don't really think this is a quad, but I don't know what kind of label it deserves. It's boozy and fruity, but in a good way. I'm not sure how to rate this, but I guess I will be nice. At the very least, this is very interesting.

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The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 590 ratings.