Dismiss Notice
Save $5 when you subscribe to 12 issues / year of BeerAdvocate magazine by selecting auto-renew.

Subscribe now →
Dismiss Notice
Join Our Email List →

And we'll send you the latest updates and offers from BeerAdvocate, because knowing is half the battle.
Dismiss Notice

Pre-order your Respect Beer "Hipster" Hoodie today!

Plus: Free shipping (US only) on orders of $25 or more until 12/18/15. Just select "Free Shipping" at checkout.

Shop now →

The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

Not Rated.
The StoicThe Stoic

Educational use only; do not reuse.
very good

250 Reviews
no score

(Send Samples)
Reviews: 250
Hads: 703
Avg: 3.79
pDev: 24.27%
Wants: 78
Gots: 236 | FT: 10
Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.
View: Beers (161) | Events
Beer: Reviews & Ratings
Sort by:  Recent | High | Low | Top Raters
first ← prev | 1-25 | 26-50 | 51-75  | nextlast
Reviews: 250 | Hads: 703
Reviews by BedetheVenerable:
Photo of BedetheVenerable
4.12/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: 22oz brown pop top, nicely waxed, with beautiful, classy label featuring a monk. 2011 vintage; enjoy by August 2012. Poured in measures into my half-pint Black Sheep goblet.

Appearance: Orange amber brew, with lots of tiny sediment in suspension (the clerk up-ended my bottle as he was wrapping it up, ugh). This is capped by a nice creamy ivory head which shows good retention. Lazy, tiny carbonation.

Smell: Not at all what I expected. Some juicy, light-red fruits, along with what smells like a ghostly hint of funk, some fairly strong bubblegum notes, and a hint of barrel character. Not typical, by any means, but quite pleasant. If this tastes anywhere near so good, it seems that I’m in for a treat!

Taste: Opens with juicy red fruit, with notes of banana and a big bubblegum presence, almost like a Bavarian Weizen. Sweet pale malt (and maybe a hint of light crystal malt) through the middle. Ends with a light red-fruit tartness and a wonderfully understated barrel character (of the whiskey, rather than the wine, variety). The vanilla/dry oakiness comes through, more than the spirit, however. Very nicely barreled beer! I wish more breweries would recognize the merits of a subtle barrel presence. This is definitely warming, but 11%? No trace!

Mouthfeel: The fairly high levels of carbonation work well with the fairly rich, creamy body.

Overall: From the fairly low scores and the fact that we still have CASES of this sitting around town, when the Abyss and BB XXIII sold out in a few hours, I wasn’t expecting much from this at all. Turns out, this was quite a nice surprise, and I’m glad I treated myself after giving a presentation on my research today. If this is still around in a couple of months, I’ll gladly pick up one more, if my budget can handle the $13.00 hit at that point. For what it’s worth, I love Boulevard Brewing, and have to give props to my local brewery, but this beer is, IMO, far superior to their barrel-aged quad with fruit.
B+ to A-

 2,007 characters

More User Reviews:
Photo of SanFranJake
4.15/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of txbrewer
3.94/5  rDev +4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Apple juice with an off white head. No sediment in the bottle and it was quite clear in the glass.

S - Malty sweet, easy on the hops and bitterness.

T - Malty,raisins??, mild hop and an almost fruity note. Even though the bottle says 11 % ABV, it does not come through in the taste.

M - Light carbonation lets the malty sweetness linger with a very mild hop finish.

D - Yes, quite so. They should make plenty more of this.

A third of this was barrel aged (half wine and half rye) and I am guessing that is where the fruity and raisin taste is coming from. Quite nice for the malt and hop balance in this one. Picked this up at Whole Foods so I may have to go back and grab a couple more bottles.

UPDATE- Read some other reviews and something is off. Seems that some people got the cloudy with and without the yeast - mine was clear with nothing remaining in the bottle at all???

 890 characters

Photo of Beaver13
2.14/5  rDev -43.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

22oz bottle. Pours a slightly hazy golden orange with a medium creamy white head that goes to a thin film and laces the glass some.

The aroma is sugary caramel malts, banana and cloves, some grassy hops and quite a bit of plasticky alcohol.

The flavor is very sweet sugary malts with some fruitiness, and a bit of slightly burnt bitter alcohol in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with smooth carbonation, slightly watery.

Overall, it's a bit of a mess. Way too cloying and alcoholic. I'll take a St Bernardus anytime over this.

 540 characters

Photo of Snikwad1020
4.75/5  rDev +25.3%

Photo of kaiyote
3.65/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of mctizzz
4.25/5  rDev +12.1%

Photo of Mora2000
3.37/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The beer pours a dark brown color with a tannish head. The aroma is full of nuts and toffee. I seem to remember the Hazelnut Brown Nectar from Rogue tasting similar to this beer, but it has been a long time since I have had it. The flavor is full of caramel and toffee malt with some cocoa and nuttyness. There is a cream flavor to the beer as well. Medium to thick mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nice, but not worth the price.

 430 characters

Photo of olradetbalder
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

Photo of HoptimusPrimal00
4/5  rDev +5.5%

Photo of GarrettB714
4/5  rDev +5.5%

Photo of justinwright
4.75/5  rDev +25.3%

Photo of Mattco
3/5  rDev -20.8%

Photo of bsp77
3.98/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Snifter.

Appearance: Beautiful, rich orange with moderate white head and light lacing bubbles. Oh no, it isn't as dark as most "Quads". Give me a break.

Smell: Banana, clove, oak and some light spiciness. Fairly sweet aroma but some tart undertones.

Taste: Tastes about halfway between a Tripel and a Quad, but with some light wine-like and tart undertones. Banana, fleshy fruit and toast supply the somewhat sweet base, which is only halfway balanced by clove and light spicy notes. Slightly tart from the Pomegranate molasses, with a lingering Chardonnay-like oak finish.

Feel: Moderate carbonation with a sweet finish and just a hint of tartness. Hard to tell if the body is a little too light or a little too chewy. Quite warming.

Overall: Ugh, where to begin? Some of the negative reviews here are ridiculous. People are criticizing this for not being a true Quad, which isn't even a real style. Gulden Draak has great reviews despite having the temerity to call themselves a "Dark Tripel", and that is an established style, by freaking monks no less. Not saying Gulden Draak should be criticized, just that Deschutes should not be dragged through the mud for making a "Light Quad". Anyway, this beer is not a home run because the mouthfeel is a little off and it could use a little more tartness and/or dryness. Despite that, this is a boldly flavored beer that is quite enjoyable. Deschutes - continue to try new things and fuck the naysayers.

Note: Deschutes should not have put a "Best By" date on the beer that is one year out. Really limits multiple bottle purchases and makes it seem as if the beer has no chance at developing further with age.

 1,702 characters

Photo of IrishGermanAmerican
4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Franziskaner
4.07/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Copper color with a haziness from the barrel aging. There's a fingernail of off white surrounding the rim and covering the majority of the top of the beer. Aroma is a complicated blend of pomegranate, oak, whiskey, and pinot noir. I was feeling good about guessing pinot noir as I did double check the Deschutes website. I'm not a wine guy and my guess is that had it been madeira or malbec I would have been hosed. The flavor is much more subtle than anticipated. The pomegranate gives the body a very light, crisp feel. It's remarkably smooth for the strength. The pinot noir notes are detectable. I get some warming sweetness from the whiskey barrels and oak provides dryness. Bravo!

 696 characters

Photo of dogfishandi
3.4/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

thanks to youradhere for this bottle!

22oz waxed and capped bottle at about fridge temp poured into a snifter. best before 8/4/12

pours out kind of a deep golden color, IMO way to light for a Quad. nice frothy white head, maybe 2 fingers. decent lacing and retention.

a big yeasty bubblegum smell rules almost the whole aroma. slightly fruity, but definatly no pomegrante, or any presence of barrel aging.

follows the aroma, lots of bubblegummy yeast, phenolic, and lots of fruity esters. but again, doesnt appear to taste barrel aged or brewed with pomegrante.

medium to full in body, adequate carbonation.

overall, pretty disappointed.when i heard deschutes, a very well respected brewery in my eyes, was making a barrel aged quad with pomegrante, i was thinking delicious. but i was disappointed. the untrained eye could fool this for a really strong basic saison. i would avoid this.

 895 characters

Photo of warmbier804
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%

Photo of MattyG85
4.45/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a waxed 22 oz. bottle into a chalice. 2015 Bottle.

Appearance: Pours a deep amber orange with a moderate amount of bubbles. About a finger of off white head that quickly fades away.

Smell: A yeasty, fruity, and sweet Belgian Quad style aroma with good hints of fruit, red wine, and whiskey. Belgian yeast with good hints of clove and pepper spicing. Sweet hints of Belgian candied sugar and molasses. Barrel hints of red wine and rye whiskey along with some vanilla and oak. Big fruit hints of pomegranate and banana along with other fruit hints of raisin, fig, cherry, dates, berries, apple, pear, and orange. Malt hints of biscuit, caramel, and cracker. Light earthy hops. A really good complex aroma.

Taste: Like it smells, a yeasty, fruity, and sweet Belgian style taste with good notes of fruit, red wine, and rye whiskey. Upfront Belgian yeast with notes of pepper and clove. Sweet taste of molasses and Belgian candied sugar. Nice barrel notes of red wine, rye whiskey, oak, and vanilla. Fruit notes of pomegranate and banana along with some cherry, fig, raison, apple, pear, dates, berry, and orange. Malt notes of caramel and biscuit. Subtle earthy hops. A very good taste.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation. Creamy, juicy, and fairly slick. Alcohol is hidden very well.

Overall: A really good spin on a Belgian style Quad. Good mix of fruit notes with a nice barrel presence of wine and whiskey.

 1,455 characters

Photo of bravejoejoe
3.33/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - a amber golden color not much of a head
S - not much of a smell here.
T- alcohol, pepper, fall spices, there is some sweetness there also but I think I woul expect that due to such a large grain bill
M - carbonation is very present.
Not to familiar with quads but it is decent, just not my favorite style of beer.

 319 characters

Photo of Seattle_Suds
3.67/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of whoneeds8
4.02/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Best by date: 8/4/2012
Batch: H

Poured into a Chimay Chalice a golden orange. Odd for the style. Nice one finger white head that disapated quicly. Bare minimal lacing. Scent is strong of raisins and grapefruit. Taste is strong of grapes, either a grape flavor from the wine barrels or the raisin flavor that goes with a Quad. There is also a vanilla note from the oak barrels that is noticiable in the after taste. The mouthfeel has a correct body weight for the style, and the carbonation is suprisingly high for it's age and being barrel aged. One quarter of my chalice has gone by and it's still producing a large amount of bubbles.

Overall, it's an odd Quad. The wine barrels are still noticeable. But I can't find any whiskey except for what is questionably a whisky burn way beyond the after taste of my palette.

 821 characters

Photo of williamjbauer
3.92/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottled in fancy wax covered bottle served in pint glass

A - Opaque dull amber with 1.5 finger khaki head with minimal retention and good lacing

S - Banana esters and sweet malt, clove

T - Woo this is a spicy, tangy lady. Most of the action in the side palate with tobacco and clove coming first to mind then sweet caramel banana malty esters to follow. End is sweet as an apricot. Booze never really pokes out to say hello. I'm not refined enough to taste the pomegranate, but do taste citrus, more orange than pomegranate. A bit of rye at the finish and some oak wine notes, the barrels really add a lot. Pretty sour.

M - Medium body, moderate carbonation.

O - Really unique spicy quad, quite enjoyable. Spicy and fruity.

 728 characters

Photo of JohnLynch
4.25/5  rDev +12.1%

Photo of kevwcamp
4/5  rDev +5.5%

first ← prev | 1-25 | 26-50 | 51-75  | nextlast
The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
85 out of 100 based on 250 ratings.