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The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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568 Ratings
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Ratings: 568
Reviews: 223
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 14.88%
Wants: 64
Gots: 184 | FT: 7
Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

(Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011)
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Reviews by gatornation:
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gatornation

Minnesota

3.8/5  rDev -0.8%

on tap 12oz pour

A- pours a golden amber color with a nice a 1 finger off-white head a fresh collar is left thru-out

S- light fruits like grapes and apples with a lemon malt and belgian yeast smell but it was faint on all fronts

T- was better hints of light fruit with a lemon and wine /champagne taste malts and bread

M- good carbonation with a lemon/tart slight barn yard taste

O- its tasty first off..not a quad IMO..it has tastes of a golden,a triple and a saison, i liked it for that but this is not a quad

11-13-2011 20:57:06 | More by gatornation
More User Reviews:
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txbrewer

Texas

3.95/5  rDev +3.1%

A - Apple juice with an off white head. No sediment in the bottle and it was quite clear in the glass.

S - Malty sweet, easy on the hops and bitterness.

T - Malty,raisins??, mild hop and an almost fruity note. Even though the bottle says 11 % ABV, it does not come through in the taste.

M - Light carbonation lets the malty sweetness linger with a very mild hop finish.

D - Yes, quite so. They should make plenty more of this.

A third of this was barrel aged (half wine and half rye) and I am guessing that is where the fruity and raisin taste is coming from. Quite nice for the malt and hop balance in this one. Picked this up at Whole Foods so I may have to go back and grab a couple more bottles.

UPDATE- Read some other reviews and something is off. Seems that some people got the cloudy with and without the yeast - mine was clear with nothing remaining in the bottle at all???

04-01-2012 21:57:05 | More by txbrewer
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Beaver13

Colorado

2.13/5  rDev -44.4%

22oz bottle. Pours a slightly hazy golden orange with a medium creamy white head that goes to a thin film and laces the glass some.

The aroma is sugary caramel malts, banana and cloves, some grassy hops and quite a bit of plasticky alcohol.

The flavor is very sweet sugary malts with some fruitiness, and a bit of slightly burnt bitter alcohol in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with smooth carbonation, slightly watery.

Overall, it's a bit of a mess. Way too cloying and alcoholic. I'll take a St Bernardus anytime over this.

09-12-2011 05:19:07 | More by Beaver13
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Snikwad1020

Maryland

4.75/5  rDev +24%

03-11-2012 10:46:32 | More by Snikwad1020
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mctizzz

California

4.25/5  rDev +11%

02-07-2014 09:15:25 | More by mctizzz
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Mora2000

Texas

3.38/5  rDev -11.7%

The beer pours a dark brown color with a tannish head. The aroma is full of nuts and toffee. I seem to remember the Hazelnut Brown Nectar from Rogue tasting similar to this beer, but it has been a long time since I have had it. The flavor is full of caramel and toffee malt with some cocoa and nuttyness. There is a cream flavor to the beer as well. Medium to thick mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nice, but not worth the price.

09-24-2011 20:11:08 | More by Mora2000
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HoptimusPrimal00

Oregon

4/5  rDev +4.4%

01-19-2012 22:06:01 | More by HoptimusPrimal00
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GarrettB714

California

4/5  rDev +4.4%

11-26-2011 05:46:50 | More by GarrettB714
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justinwright


4.75/5  rDev +24%

03-08-2012 05:28:52 | More by justinwright
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Mattco

Illinois

3/5  rDev -21.7%

06-11-2013 12:46:39 | More by Mattco
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bsp77

Minnesota

3.98/5  rDev +3.9%

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Snifter.

Appearance: Beautiful, rich orange with moderate white head and light lacing bubbles. Oh no, it isn't as dark as most "Quads". Give me a break.

Smell: Banana, clove, oak and some light spiciness. Fairly sweet aroma but some tart undertones.

Taste: Tastes about halfway between a Tripel and a Quad, but with some light wine-like and tart undertones. Banana, fleshy fruit and toast supply the somewhat sweet base, which is only halfway balanced by clove and light spicy notes. Slightly tart from the Pomegranate molasses, with a lingering Chardonnay-like oak finish.

Feel: Moderate carbonation with a sweet finish and just a hint of tartness. Hard to tell if the body is a little too light or a little too chewy. Quite warming.

Overall: Ugh, where to begin? Some of the negative reviews here are ridiculous. People are criticizing this for not being a true Quad, which isn't even a real style. Gulden Draak has great reviews despite having the temerity to call themselves a "Dark Tripel", and that is an established style, by freaking monks no less. Not saying Gulden Draak should be criticized, just that Deschutes should not be dragged through the mud for making a "Light Quad". Anyway, this beer is not a home run because the mouthfeel is a little off and it could use a little more tartness and/or dryness. Despite that, this is a boldly flavored beer that is quite enjoyable. Deschutes - continue to try new things and fuck the naysayers.

Note: Deschutes should not have put a "Best By" date on the beer that is one year out. Really limits multiple bottle purchases and makes it seem as if the beer has no chance at developing further with age.

09-30-2011 21:57:08 | More by bsp77
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dogfishandi

New York

3.4/5  rDev -11.2%

thanks to youradhere for this bottle!

22oz waxed and capped bottle at about fridge temp poured into a snifter. best before 8/4/12

pours out kind of a deep golden color, IMO way to light for a Quad. nice frothy white head, maybe 2 fingers. decent lacing and retention.

a big yeasty bubblegum smell rules almost the whole aroma. slightly fruity, but definatly no pomegrante, or any presence of barrel aging.

follows the aroma, lots of bubblegummy yeast, phenolic, and lots of fruity esters. but again, doesnt appear to taste barrel aged or brewed with pomegrante.

medium to full in body, adequate carbonation.

overall, pretty disappointed.when i heard deschutes, a very well respected brewery in my eyes, was making a barrel aged quad with pomegrante, i was thinking delicious. but i was disappointed. the untrained eye could fool this for a really strong basic saison. i would avoid this.

10-24-2011 22:24:17 | More by dogfishandi
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warmbier804

Minnesota

3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

04-10-2013 19:33:33 | More by warmbier804
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bravejoejoe

Montana

3.35/5  rDev -12.5%

A - a amber golden color not much of a head
S - not much of a smell here.
T- alcohol, pepper, fall spices, there is some sweetness there also but I think I woul expect that due to such a large grain bill
M - carbonation is very present.
Not to familiar with quads but it is decent, just not my favorite style of beer.

10-21-2011 20:27:05 | More by bravejoejoe
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whoneeds8

Texas

4.03/5  rDev +5.2%

Best by date: 8/4/2012
Batch: H

Poured into a Chimay Chalice a golden orange. Odd for the style. Nice one finger white head that disapated quicly. Bare minimal lacing. Scent is strong of raisins and grapefruit. Taste is strong of grapes, either a grape flavor from the wine barrels or the raisin flavor that goes with a Quad. There is also a vanilla note from the oak barrels that is noticiable in the after taste. The mouthfeel has a correct body weight for the style, and the carbonation is suprisingly high for it's age and being barrel aged. One quarter of my chalice has gone by and it's still producing a large amount of bubbles.

Overall, it's an odd Quad. The wine barrels are still noticeable. But I can't find any whiskey except for what is questionably a whisky burn way beyond the after taste of my palette.

10-27-2012 00:36:44 | More by whoneeds8
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williamjbauer

West Virginia

3.93/5  rDev +2.6%

Bottled in fancy wax covered bottle served in pint glass

A - Opaque dull amber with 1.5 finger khaki head with minimal retention and good lacing

S - Banana esters and sweet malt, clove

T - Woo this is a spicy, tangy lady. Most of the action in the side palate with tobacco and clove coming first to mind then sweet caramel banana malty esters to follow. End is sweet as an apricot. Booze never really pokes out to say hello. I'm not refined enough to taste the pomegranate, but do taste citrus, more orange than pomegranate. A bit of rye at the finish and some oak wine notes, the barrels really add a lot. Pretty sour.

M - Medium body, moderate carbonation.

O - Really unique spicy quad, quite enjoyable. Spicy and fruity.

03-01-2012 20:22:04 | More by williamjbauer
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JohnLynch


4.25/5  rDev +11%

07-13-2012 05:08:35 | More by JohnLynch
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kevwcamp

Washington

4/5  rDev +4.4%

11-17-2011 16:51:33 | More by kevwcamp
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cisteve

Texas

3.25/5  rDev -15.1%

04-07-2012 02:21:01 | More by cisteve
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ste5venla

California

4/5  rDev +4.4%

08-17-2012 21:53:42 | More by ste5venla
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quirkzoo

Colorado

3.6/5  rDev -6%

I have had this beer before but it still surprised me how light it pours, gold, with just a touch of orange and a very small white head that recedes quickly. The aroma is very sweet, lots of complex fruity belgian yeast esters, lots of berries, overripe strawberries, blueberries, slightly acidic smelling but not in a sour way. Some definite light caramel maltiness in the background and a touch of oaky tannins. The taste is nice, similar to the aroma but slightly more muted, not as bright. Very light bitterness, just enough to balance the high notes of the flavor. The mouthfeel is nice, very smooth, especially for 11%. Overall a friend shared a bottle of this a while back and I decided to pick up a bottle for myself, not quite as good as the top level Belgian quads but a very decent American attempt at the style.

04-14-2012 05:23:12 | More by quirkzoo
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Shawner

Minnesota

3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

01-26-2014 20:30:16 | More by Shawner
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mudbug

Oregon

4.33/5  rDev +13.1%

From the waxed bomber into a large wine glass results in a brilliant amber body capped by a thin head that dissipates pretty quickly, small bubbles continue up through the body for the entire glass.
Aroma is interesting and unique, I'm getting some clove, fresh bread, yeast (Belgian) astringency like fresh laid linoleum overall appealing.
Taste is, well, unexpected, unique, don't think I've ever had a beer quite like this, it's sweet, up front with a nice yeasty back, I guess it's the rye barrels that give it a kind of spicy twang, maybe it's the pomegranate, whatever, It's a unique brew that stands on it's own.
11% doesn't show itself at all, rather refreshing more than heavy.
Don't know what to call this beast except tasty, it will be interesting to update this one after a year or so in the cellar.

10-01-2011 03:18:49 | More by mudbug
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GilGarp

Colorado

4.03/5  rDev +5.2%

Bomber with black wax stamped with Best by date of 8/4/12.

Served cool into a chalice, the first thing that strikes me is the color. Very light in color, much closer to a tripel than a quad. A slightly hazy golden yellow color with a thin layer of short-lived head.

The label on The Stoic is more confusing that anything to me. The words prized, potent, depth, and complexity on the front. Some blurb about 4 fermentations, different types of barrels, stoicly brewed, and a medieval ancestor? Ridiculousness...

Aroma is a pleasant combination of oak aging vanilla character, Belgian yeast spice notes, and a hint of pomegranate.

Flavor is surprisingly sweet and light. Malts must have been kept on the lighter side with no roast or even caramel/toffee to speak of here. Obviously a lot of malt was used to get 11% but it doesn't have much depth in that department. It does, however, allow the different aging processes to show through better. The oak is prevalent with hints of the previous contents. Fruity, spicy, and perfumey.

Mouthfeel is medium-plus in body and nicely carbonated. Balance is towards the sweet side and the alcohol is very well disquised.

Overall an interesting beer but it seems misleading to call it a quad. True Belgian quads share little, if anything, in common with this Oregonian version. Throw it in the 'American Strong Ale' category and leave it at that.

To end on a positive, I think it's very easy drinking for such a strong beer. Bring this to Thanksgiving and serve next to wine. I bet the family would find it an interesting counterpoint.

09-15-2011 01:06:13 | More by GilGarp
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

3.9/5  rDev +1.8%

good beer, but not your father’s quad. Rather mid yellow with big lasting head, lace. Sweet, and some tartness from the pomegranate. Overall I get more berry than pomegranate.Complex, sweet dominates but it is not cloying. Smooth mouthfeel and good drinkability. Thanks Presario.

11-23-2012 21:08:58 | More by Sammy
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The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
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