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The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

The StoicThe Stoic

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BA SCORE
86
very good

542 Ratings
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Ratings: 542
Reviews: 221
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 14.92%


Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

(Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011)
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bizweasel

Washington

4.56/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Amazing. Belgian yeast (actually a pretty light touch) along with some strong sweetness from the malt. Sweet like a good barleywine would be, a sweetness that seems totally natural in this context. Most beers that are in the style don't choose to go so sweet, but for this beer it really, really works. Absolutely my new favorite.

Serving type: on-tap

02-04-2014 05:32:27 | More by bizweasel
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TheRealBigC

Nevada

3.03/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Really didn't like this one as much as the folks at the bar had me anticipating. It's really, really strong. The complex flavor helps hide it a little, but between the tartness and the banana & yeasty in-your-face flavor, I couldn't even put the whole thing down. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of the style, but I know I've had better. Maybe I expect Deschutes to knock it out of the park every time and I feel slightly disappointed.

Serving type: on-tap

08-04-2012 01:08:09 | More by TheRealBigC
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kojevergas

Texas

4.05/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on-draught into a 25 cl Leffe goblet at The Daily Pint in Santa Monica, California. Reviewed from notes. I'd had this before from the bottle and knew it was good already.

A: Pours a 1.5 finger head of nice cream, great thickness, and good retention for the style. Colour is a semitransparent copper. No yeast particles are visible.

Sm: Bretts, clean fresh malts, some funkiness, and bright esters. A moderate strength aroma. Very pleasant. Fresh and clean.

T: The malts are layered and brilliant. Very fresh with wonderful orange citrus esters. Complex and subtle, but I preferred it out of the bottle when it was yeasty and more complex. A touch cidery. A bit appley. Very well balanced and built.

Mf: Smooth, crisp, and wet. Not too thick/thin. Smack-your-lips lovely. Delicately light on the palate. Quite pleasant.

Dr: Incredibly drinkable. This was better out of the bottle with the yeast. I'd have it again, preferably bottle-aged. A lovely quad from Deschutes. Hides its ABV insanely well. Give her a go, lads.

B+

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Review saved from the duplicate serving type review purge and copied below. This was my original review of the beer from the bottle on 12/11/2011. I've averaged the two reviews to yield the score I gave it.

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with waxed-over pressure cap served into a N'ice Chouffe stemgoblet in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are extremely high; I love deschutes and quads. This is a dream come true. Let's see if it stacks up.

A: Pours a half finger head of slight cream, pretty thin, and of okay retention when you factor in the high ABV. Colour is a nontransparent textbook copper. Appealing.

Sm: Wonderful. Impressive yeasty aroma with strong notes of candied sugar, pomegranate fruit tones, light oak, and whiskey. Really a lovely balanced aroma. Quite pleasant and inviting. Some sourness/bacteria is also of note, and maybe some light hints of white wine. It certainly smells complex. I hope it tastes as good as it smells. A moderate strength aroma.

T: Fruity tones - pomegranate, maybe light green apple, lovely tinges of sourness, full expressive yeast, a light oak tone, and a full malt foundation. The malt is wonderfully subtle, sort of the polar opposite of how it's used in crappy Spanish macro lagers (see San Miguel). The candied sugar is lovely and gives it a tingly sensation. Very complex yet wonderfully balanced, with a rare subtlety of flavour. Extremely well built. No note really dominates; they all layer and congeal to comprise an all around wonderful taste. No alcohol is detectable.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with just enough thickness to support the complex flavours and ABV without being overbearing. The tingly sensation produced by the candied sugar lends it the needed coarseness to coax out the flavours without lessening drinkability. Bravo.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the ABV, and very drinkable in general. I wouldn't call this a sipper like many Russian Imperial Stouts; it certainly isn't sessionable but it's of fantastic quality, quite enjoyable to drink, and allows swigs rather than sips. If I had to murder my grandmother to try this on-tap, I'd have to pause to think about it - and then I'd remember that bottle conditioning suits quads better - and I'd stop myself. Another home-run from Deschutes. It's a shame it isn't more widely available. I imagine it ages wonderfully. It would pair well with food that doesn't have too strong a flavour or temperature - perhaps a sandwich or salad. I'd like to see Deschutes brew a quad more akin to Westvleteren 12, using those wonderful dark fruit notes. A comparative analysis between the two is by no means fair, but nevertheless I'd like to see Deschutes attempt something similar. I think that's testament to the quality of their brews. I look forward to trying more beers from Deschutes; they seem to consistently satisfy me.

4.2

Serving type: on-tap

03-30-2012 03:22:51 | More by kojevergas
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Scotchboy

Idaho

3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had on-tap @ Bittercreek Alehouse, Boise ID. Served in a snifter.

A: Gold, clear body as it warms, decent off-white head and lace.

S: Sweet bread, sweeter malt bill, banana, clove, spices, distant pomegranate, light rye whiskey notes.

T: Follows the nose, lots of bready notes, caramel, spicy, fruit notes, pomegranate, faint whisky presence.

MF: Spicy medium-dry mouthfeel.

O: Really reminds me of a Tripel or a Belgian Strong Pale. Decent, but nothing more.

Serving type: on-tap

02-20-2012 02:26:55 | More by Scotchboy
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charlzm

California

2.85/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Consumed at Blue Palms Brewhouse, Hollywood CA on January 27, 2012.

Clear light amber/copper color with no head to speak of: just a fine off-white crown ringing the edges of the glass. Not as dark as a quad should be. Odd.

Aroma is esthery and rich with bubblegum. A floral note as well: clover? Not much else.

Flavor is heavy on the bubblegum. Slightly floral and sweet: honeysuckle. Fairly sweet with no alcohol or bitterness to contrast. No complexity or subtlety here I can detect despite all the alleged barrel aging and pomegranate.

Mouthfeel is unremarkable.

Innocuous and easy enough to put away, but not very successful as a quad.

Serving type: on-tap

01-31-2012 20:53:51 | More by charlzm
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CuriousMonk

Virginia

3.78/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at 1702 Speedway. Pours a bright clean golden amber with one finger of yellow. Nose is rich and heavy with Belgian esters. Lots of raw fruit and peach with spice and volatile alcoholic heat. Some plum with a light vinous character. Rich flavor with notes of prune and overripe fruit. Very estery with a light whiskey character. Medium body with a soft carbonation and warming finish. Overall a decent beer.

Serving type: on-tap

12-28-2011 19:18:22 | More by CuriousMonk
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MADhombrewer

Oregon

3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap at County Cork. Poured into a Chimay goblet.

Appearance- Golden orange with a tuft of white head directly in the middle of the glass. Almost hurricane like. This seems to be the opposite of what a Quad should look like. 3/5

Smell- Banana, clove. Even Belgian yeast caricature. 3.5/5

Taste- Banana and clove again. Alcohol comes quickly afterward. 3.5/5

Mouthfeel- Smooth. Not really thick but definitely not thin. 4/5

Overall- Good beer. I am not the biggest Belgian beer fan, but this is good. I would have to agree with those that have said it is not a true Quad. I tend to like quads. Not enough dark fruit flavors for that. 3.5/5

Serving type: on-tap

12-14-2011 03:41:08 | More by MADhombrewer
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DoubleJ

California

3.95/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at Crow Burger Kitchen, on to the beer:

It's much lighter than the usual quadruppel; it's cough syrup orange in color with little head that is quick to go away. The nose says cranberry, red wine notes, and some sugars.

It is sweet, but a controlled sweetness. There are fruit notes all over, with pear and cranberry being the dominant forces. On the smaller end, there are hints of oak and even mint. The alcohol is hidden reasonably well in this nearly full bodied beer.

Not nearly as revered as The Abyss, but The Stoic is still something to crave.

Serving type: on-tap

11-27-2011 03:02:20 | More by DoubleJ
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Gobzilla

California

3.6/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a yellowish orange in Color with yellow highlights and a very thin head that left very little lacing sticking to the glass.

S: not too much of the barrel characteristics came out on the nose but I did get some Belgian yeast, candied sugar, mild dark fruit notes, and a mild wine grape aromaa.

T: the oakiness was more prominent on the palate alongside candied sugar, sweetness from the yeast, mild tart character, but had a touch of butterscotch.

M: the brew was medium in body with a moderate amount of carbonation which had a sweet, mild fruity, oaky, and sticky finish.

D: it was definitely a supper and was pretty rich in flavor as well. I thinks it's a great dessert beer.

Serving type: on-tap

11-23-2011 02:50:32 | More by Gobzilla
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gatornation

Minnesota

3.8/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

on tap 12oz pour

A- pours a golden amber color with a nice a 1 finger off-white head a fresh collar is left thru-out

S- light fruits like grapes and apples with a lemon malt and belgian yeast smell but it was faint on all fronts

T- was better hints of light fruit with a lemon and wine /champagne taste malts and bread

M- good carbonation with a lemon/tart slight barn yard taste

O- its tasty first off..not a quad IMO..it has tastes of a golden,a triple and a saison, i liked it for that but this is not a quad

Serving type: on-tap

11-13-2011 20:57:06 | More by gatornation
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July2Nov

Hawaii

3.85/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap 14 Sep 11 @ Murphy's Bar & Grill

Appearance: Clear copper in color with a thin lacing.

Smell: Apple/fruit and wine-like scents. Belgian yeast comes out too.

Taste & Mouthfeel: Bubblegum flavor at first. Some good barrel aging flavor comes out. Fruity with a floral bouquet. Heat come up at the end giving me "dragon breath"! Quite stingy! Some sweet honey syrup flavoring too.

Overall: Got to respect the Stoic! The alcohol is just a bit too hot in this young one. A year or two of aging would settle this one out, just right and make it a bit better.

Serving type: on-tap

11-11-2011 03:32:43 | More by July2Nov
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Gavage

New Jersey

4.33/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a dark orange / copper color with a short 1/4" head that breaks apart quickly.

Smell: fruit and some alcohol create a great nose.

Taste: caramel, pomegranite, some light oak tones, very mild bitterness, and a warm alcohol burn create a tasty beer.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body. Lightly crisp to start, smooth and a bit dry at the finish. Aftertaste is long lasting.

Overall: a very slow sipping but big flavored beer. The flavors really grow as this one warms. Very enjoyable on tap.

Serving type: on-tap

11-01-2011 18:44:36 | More by Gavage
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bravejoejoe

Montana

3.35/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - a amber golden color not much of a head
S - not much of a smell here.
T- alcohol, pepper, fall spices, there is some sweetness there also but I think I woul expect that due to such a large grain bill
M - carbonation is very present.
Not to familiar with quads but it is decent, just not my favorite style of beer.

Serving type: on-tap

10-21-2011 20:27:05 | More by bravejoejoe
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Halcyondays

California

3.35/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

On-tap at Beachwood II, finally this gets to the Southland,

A: Pours a clear medium amber with a spotty soft white head. Bubbly.

S: Real nice notes of vanilla/barrel and caramel here.

T: Definitely sweet. Lots of date, sugar cane and some brown sugar. Pomegranate is minor, there is a light berry fruit character. Too underattenuated for my tastes, a problem I find in a lot of American quads.

M: Full-bodied, cloying at times, biting carbonation occasionally.

O: Glad to try it, but I'm not going to pop the money for this again. Might be good with some age.

Serving type: on-tap

10-14-2011 01:43:40 | More by Halcyondays
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womencantsail

California

3/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at Beachwood Brewing

A: The pour is a clear amber color with a finger of off-white head.

S: An almost nail polish remover/acetone aroma. Strong acidic fruit character in there, too. A little bit of toffee/bread/caramel sweetness in there somewhere. There is a little bit of raisin and plum, too.

T: More typical Quad character on the aroma. There is a strong fruit note to it, though. Lots of plum, raisin, and perhaps some cherry. Maybe a touch of cough medicine. There is a strong toffee and toasted bread malt flavor.

M: Medium bodied with medium carbonation.

O: A real miss from Deschutes. A rare one as well. Very disappointing.

Serving type: on-tap

10-13-2011 01:12:09 | More by womencantsail
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HopHead84

California

3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

10/10/11

On tap at URGE.

A: Pellucid gold in color with a fleeting white head.

S: Perfumy floral notes meld with dark cherry, plum, fig, raisin, and powerful grape notes. There's some caramel and bread, as well as a pervasive spiciness and candi sugar sweetness. I get a little oak, but I'm not getting anything from the whiskey barrels.

T: Very sweet, with notes of plum, fig, raisin, grape, and date. There's a little oak and a not insubstantial pepper-like spiciness. I get a little cherry as well. Very malty and sweet with bread and candi sugar.

M: Upper medium body with lower moderate carbonation. The mouthfeel is sticky with much warming.

Overall: A solid beer, but 4 ounces was sufficient.

Serving type: on-tap

10-11-2011 14:59:44 | More by HopHead84
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badboyrsl84

California

3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours the color of white wine into the taster glass with a tiny white head that disappeared quickly.

Smell - grapes, lemon grass, and farmhouse funk.

Taste - first thought, grape juice with some Belgian funk in the end. Lemon notes and grains of paradise maybe. Some alcohol presence in the throat when swallowed

Overall - very drinkable with no complaints here. Not the best quad but not the worst.

Serving type: on-tap

09-24-2011 20:45:34 | More by badboyrsl84
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Mora2000

Texas

3.38/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The beer pours a dark brown color with a tannish head. The aroma is full of nuts and toffee. I seem to remember the Hazelnut Brown Nectar from Rogue tasting similar to this beer, but it has been a long time since I have had it. The flavor is full of caramel and toffee malt with some cocoa and nuttyness. There is a cream flavor to the beer as well. Medium to thick mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nice, but not worth the price.

Serving type: on-tap

09-24-2011 20:11:08 | More by Mora2000
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cbarrett4

Oregon

3.78/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from tap at Deschutes Portland:

Poured a dark amber - reddish brown hue. Very little head, almost no lace, good carbonation. Pretty average look for an American quad.

Smells nicely of spice, honey, and rye but oddly not too much of Belgian yeast... Also not picking up much from the barrel aging...

Flavors focus on a banana, apple, spice, rye core with some alcohol really pushing through. A hint of spice. I do get a faint flavor from the barrel maturation. Pretty good palate.

Texture is good, medium body, but a bit light for a quad, little grip, but the alcohol is oppressive, it really overwhelms. There is nowhere near enough body or texture to stand up to it.

A very good beer by most standards, but I expect more from Deschutes, especially for one of their reserve series. I have enjoyed several seasonal dubbel, trippel, and quadrupel offerings that were not in their reserve line which expressed a truer Belgian heart than this beer. I think it has potential, but I will not be purchasing this anytime soon. I'll spend my dollars on Jubel 2010, Abyss, and Black Butte XXIII.

Serving type: on-tap

09-09-2011 19:11:23 | More by cbarrett4
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johnmichaelsen

Oregon

3.98/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at the Portland brewpub.

The beer pours a fairly dark gold color with pretty good head retetion nand light lacing. On the nose, the clove aroma really dominates, though I also pick up considerable spice, light clover honey and a hint of bananna. The flavor profile repilcates the nose pretty closely in this fairly sweet quad style beer, though there's enough underlying bitterness so that the beer doesn't tire out the palate too quickly. Still, the sweetness, amount of spice and noticeable alcohol make this beer very much a sipper. Mouthfeel is medium bodied to full, with a long, fairly sweet, spice infused finish.

A nice enough beer, but probably not something I would seek out or want to have on too many occasions.

Serving type: on-tap

09-05-2011 16:30:04 | More by johnmichaelsen
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dirtylou

Washington

3.5/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

on-tap, Naked City

appearance: served in an unbranded goblet - maybe a 10oz pour. lifeless clear copper syrup

smell: strong alcohol presence - white grape, spice, clove, yeast

taste: Certainly not true to style - overly sweet with copious amounts of banana, pear, and grape. Clove and allspice clash with fierce burning alcohol. Unsuccessful.

mouthfeel: sweet, syrupy

overall: Not great - glad I didnt drop $14 on a bomber to confirm this

Serving type: on-tap

09-03-2011 16:30:40 | More by dirtylou
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jbakajust1

Oregon

4.1/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

8oz pour @ 16 Tons (they need wine glasses or something for these kind of beers, 1/2 pint just aint proper)

A - Briliantly clear dark gold, thin offwhite head that fades to a nice cap, good lacing.

S - Honestly, it smells like a Saison made with the Dupont strain. Tart, juicy fruits, tangerine, white wine, subtle oak, coriander, pepper, roses, pears

T - Pomegranate, light caramel sweetness, rose water, rye spiciness, spicy, very floral

M - Light bodied, subtle alcohol, spicy semi dry finish, yet sweet on the palate.

O - Enjoyed this thoroughly! Too drinkable, yet very complex, great Belgian esters and phenols, depth of character, tons of layers. Can't tell it's 11% ABV at all.

Serving type: on-tap

08-26-2011 21:25:58 | More by jbakajust1
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HuskyinPDX

Washington

3.2/5  rDev -16.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the Portland pub.

A - Served a dark orange with a fine bubbled off-white head. Good retention and spots of lacing left on the glass.

S - Belgian yeast and spices.

T - Spices, yeast, and fruit - banannas.

D - High carbonation and lighter bodied.

O - Mmph. Ok, a bit let down.

Serving type: on-tap

08-22-2011 21:12:24 | More by HuskyinPDX
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Shmeal

Oregon

4.38/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I'm just going to say that while this beer is not a quad by any sort of measure, it is an extremely tasty brew with light barrel aging.

If you can get past the labeling, you're in for a tasty, light, yet high abv beer that is well suited for hotter days on your porch.

Serving type: on-tap

08-21-2011 00:24:15 | More by Shmeal
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hobojon

California

2.73/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

On tap at the Bend pub.

Appearance: filtered and very clear. amber with cherry red highlights. minimal foam and no lacing.

Smell: alcohol, band-aids, and cherry cough syrup. some belgian yeast ester. banana and pear. sweet and syrupy with some cherry/sweet fruit aroma. the alcohol is masked well.

Taste: very disappointing. this is not a quad. this is a poor attempt at anything close to Rochefort 10, Westy 12, St B 12 or Koningshoeven. It is too sweet, not dark enough (in malt and dark fruit flavor), and the yeast character is poor. I get some subtle -bal character but it is in the background adding complexity to the fruity cherry notes (I'm guessing this is from the Pomegranate). It is full flavored, but tastes like a bad Belgian homebrew.

Mouthfeel: this was on draft... so I wasn't expecting high carb. med carb, sweet and full. lingering alcohol. not dry and drinkable like most quads. too sweet.

Overall: I am surprised that they say this took 5 years to create on the label. The color was the first indication that it would not be like the Trappist quads I have come to love. The Pomegranate is too much on top of the already sweet beer. The yeast doesn't give me the spicy or fruity character I want. I am very disappointed with this beer, but maybe my expectations are wrong.

Serving type: on-tap

08-20-2011 05:41:24 | More by hobojon
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The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 542 ratings.