The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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Ratings: 606
Reviews: 231
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 14.62%
Wants: 70
Gots: 195 | FT: 8
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.
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Photo of Sammy
3.88/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

good beer, but not your father’s quad. Rather mid yellow with big lasting head, lace. Sweet, and some tartness from the pomegranate. Overall I get more berry than pomegranate.Complex, sweet dominates but it is not cloying. Smooth mouthfeel and good drinkability. Thanks Presario.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.92/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Best by 8/4/12.

Pours a clear golden color with a 1 inch puffy white head that settles to a thin cap. Thin broken rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark fruits, banana, caramel, and malt. Taste is of dark fruits and banana, malt, some caramel, yeast, alcohol, and a tart flavor. I am not really getting any pomegranate or barrel aged flavors in the smell or taste. This beer has a higher level of carbonation with a crisp and prickly mouthfeel. There is an alcohol burn in the back of the throat with each sip. Overall, this is a good beer from Deschutes but not as good as I was expecting based on their other barrel aged offerings.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.18/5  rDev -17%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to daysinthewake for sending this bottle out my way. Served in a Mikasa tulip.

Pours a semi-hazed peach color with a bit of a white head and light lacing on the way down. The nose brings light honey and faint fruit. None of the barrel character really coming through. Medium body and light dryness in the finish with some sweetness. As it warms, the sweetness becomes more prominent. Not terribly complex, and not really getting much of the "weird" stuff they did to this one. This is just an average Belgian strong that didn't live up to what it was billed as. Oh well.

Photo of brentk56
3.82/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color; the modest head fails the Belgian test and fades away rather quickly, as well; it does manage to leave a few dots and dashes behind

Smell: Bubblegum phenols on top, but there is much more depth underneath, including a vinous fruity character and pomegranate esters

Taste: A fruit salad of flavor, up front, with apple, pear and white wine grapes establishing dominance; the pomegranate arriving with the alcohol at mid-palate, followed by spicy yeast and more vinous elements, after the swallow; oaky dryness, in the after-taste

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation and some warmth in the gullet

Overall: Not really a quad; to my palate, it is more like a BSPA; a lot went into this beer but the sum is less than the parts

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

the stoic is one heck of an interesting beer. pours murky light amber color with a slight pink tint and an effervescent white head. looks much lighter than most quads ive had, coming in almost honey colored rather than that deep caramel color im accustomed to in these. it smells tart and sour, yeasty, and lots of fresh fruit. the flavor is much more tempered by the wood aging, and the rye flavors come through very nicely and compliment the tartness of the pomegranates. never really tasted anything quite like this, its oaky, almost sour, and even flowery in the yeast. feel is very excited carbonation and a lighter to medium body. alcohol flavor and feel is entirely absent. amazing. this would be quite drinkable except for the abv strength. overall another exceptional beer from deschutes. theyve got to be one of the finest operations in the country.

Photo of Knapp85
3.82/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a light brown color with a nice looking white head on top. The retention is pretty good as well as the lacing. The smell of the beer gives off some quad like aromas, there is some fruity and bready aromas. The barrel aging aromas are prominent. The taste of the beer has a slight tartness to it. The flavors of dark fruits come out with some oak elements in there also. The mouthfeel had a solid amount to carbonation, the body is a little on the thin side. Overall it's a decent quad. The color is a little on the light side and is need a little more body.

Photo of largadeer
2.12/5  rDev -44.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Beddachedda shared this one. Thanks, Evan.

Appearance: The Stoic pours a clear golden color, not exactly quad-like but attractive nonetheless. The head is tall and lasting.

Aroma: The nose is overwhelmingly sweet, showcasing bubblegum and raw sugar, some tart fruitiness from the pomegranate I suppose, but really just overwhelming sweetness and yeast. Clove, breadiness, a bit vinous - plenty of depth but none of it is appealing.

Palate: Sweet, vinous, fruity. Cloying but also slightly tart. Dark fruit and red wine, clove, bready malt. Becomes more tannic and dry in the finish. Pretty mediocre and not particularly drinkable, I dumped my glass after a few ounces. Deschutes isn't doing so well with these reserve series beers this year.

Photo of womencantsail
3.01/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at Beachwood Brewing

A: The pour is a clear amber color with a finger of off-white head.

S: An almost nail polish remover/acetone aroma. Strong acidic fruit character in there, too. A little bit of toffee/bread/caramel sweetness in there somewhere. There is a little bit of raisin and plum, too.

T: More typical Quad character on the aroma. There is a strong fruit note to it, though. Lots of plum, raisin, and perhaps some cherry. Maybe a touch of cough medicine. There is a strong toffee and toasted bread malt flavor.

M: Medium bodied with medium carbonation.

O: A real miss from Deschutes. A rare one as well. Very disappointing.

Photo of zeff80
3.85/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a clear, golden-orange color with a one-finger, white head of bubbly foam. It some sudsy rings of lace on the glass.

S - It smelled of pomegranate and other fruits. Some wood-like aromas and caramel.

T - Nice pomegranate flavor with some yeasty/spiciness. Good caramel sweetness with a touch of oak to add some needed bitterness.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a dry finish.

O - By no means is this a traditional Quadrupel, but it still a tasty beer and worth a try.

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.45/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

This looks...unusual for a quad. Smells nice though. The beer in its entirety is...uninspiring. It was nice to drink, but not interesting enough to distract me to go write down some notes about it as I worked on other things. Slightly boozy with a bit of a burn. The pomegranate provides an interesting touch, but only a one dimensional one. If this is a quad, okay, I can roll with that...I guess. Overall though, it's not very interesting. A brewery like Deschutes has earned my respect by producing a lot of interesting beers that I really enjoy. However. This is not one of them. A miss, in my book.

Photo of mactrail
4.15/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Amazingly spicy and the pomegranate is what I was wondering about. Sweet but full of hot, tart, and fruity flavors. Beautiful coppery golden color in the tulip glass. Aromatic with so much going on it's interesting just to let it all filter through the schnozz. Some of the toasted English muffin flavor as well. Some raisins and figs, but well balanced with the bright malt.

I think this is one of the better Quads I've had. A nice alcohol burn with the great woody nose and long spicy flavors. "Best by" date is 08/04/12. Expensive, is the only problem.

Photo of russpowell
4.23/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Best 08/04/12

Pours amber with a finger of cream colored head. Some head retention & lacing

S: Cherries, oakyness, vanillas

T: Follows the nose, a touch of Chardonnay & sourness up front. A touch of vanilla & oak, cherry tartness & some raisin as this warms, a touch of warming booze as well there's a bit of pineapple & grapefruit showing up as well. Finishes with much tropical fruityness, some citrus bitterness, Chardonnay dryness

MF: Fairly chewy with slight carbonation & dryness

A super solid quad with a barrel aged twist. I would buy this again & age it just to see how that rolls

Photo of kojevergas
4.06/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on-draught into a 25 cl Leffe goblet at The Daily Pint in Santa Monica, California. Reviewed from notes. I'd had this before from the bottle and knew it was good already.

A: Pours a 1.5 finger head of nice cream, great thickness, and good retention for the style. Colour is a semitransparent copper. No yeast particles are visible.

Sm: Bretts, clean fresh malts, some funkiness, and bright esters. A moderate strength aroma. Very pleasant. Fresh and clean.

T: The malts are layered and brilliant. Very fresh with wonderful orange citrus esters. Complex and subtle, but I preferred it out of the bottle when it was yeasty and more complex. A touch cidery. A bit appley. Very well balanced and built.

Mf: Smooth, crisp, and wet. Not too thick/thin. Smack-your-lips lovely. Delicately light on the palate. Quite pleasant.

Dr: Incredibly drinkable. This was better out of the bottle with the yeast. I'd have it again, preferably bottle-aged. A lovely quad from Deschutes. Hides its ABV insanely well. Give her a go, lads.

B+

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Review saved from the duplicate serving type review purge and copied below. This was my original review of the beer from the bottle on 12/11/2011. I've averaged the two reviews to yield the score I gave it.

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with waxed-over pressure cap served into a N'ice Chouffe stemgoblet in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are extremely high; I love deschutes and quads. This is a dream come true. Let's see if it stacks up.

A: Pours a half finger head of slight cream, pretty thin, and of okay retention when you factor in the high ABV. Colour is a nontransparent textbook copper. Appealing.

Sm: Wonderful. Impressive yeasty aroma with strong notes of candied sugar, pomegranate fruit tones, light oak, and whiskey. Really a lovely balanced aroma. Quite pleasant and inviting. Some sourness/bacteria is also of note, and maybe some light hints of white wine. It certainly smells complex. I hope it tastes as good as it smells. A moderate strength aroma.

T: Fruity tones - pomegranate, maybe light green apple, lovely tinges of sourness, full expressive yeast, a light oak tone, and a full malt foundation. The malt is wonderfully subtle, sort of the polar opposite of how it's used in crappy Spanish macro lagers (see San Miguel). The candied sugar is lovely and gives it a tingly sensation. Very complex yet wonderfully balanced, with a rare subtlety of flavour. Extremely well built. No note really dominates; they all layer and congeal to comprise an all around wonderful taste. No alcohol is detectable.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with just enough thickness to support the complex flavours and ABV without being overbearing. The tingly sensation produced by the candied sugar lends it the needed coarseness to coax out the flavours without lessening drinkability. Bravo.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the ABV, and very drinkable in general. I wouldn't call this a sipper like many Russian Imperial Stouts; it certainly isn't sessionable but it's of fantastic quality, quite enjoyable to drink, and allows swigs rather than sips. If I had to murder my grandmother to try this on-tap, I'd have to pause to think about it - and then I'd remember that bottle conditioning suits quads better - and I'd stop myself. Another home-run from Deschutes. It's a shame it isn't more widely available. I imagine it ages wonderfully. It would pair well with food that doesn't have too strong a flavour or temperature - perhaps a sandwich or salad. I'd like to see Deschutes brew a quad more akin to Westvleteren 12, using those wonderful dark fruit notes. A comparative analysis between the two is by no means fair, but nevertheless I'd like to see Deschutes attempt something similar. I think that's testament to the quality of their brews. I look forward to trying more beers from Deschutes; they seem to consistently satisfy me.

4.2

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The Stoic, Deschutes Brewery, Bend, Oregon, A Prized, Potent Belgian-styled Quad of Stirring Depth and Complexity. …well, there, I don't need to say anything more, right?) The Stoic, malt beverage brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% beoing aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% aged in oak rye whiskey barrels.

Clear, deep amber hue, slim head. Looks nice, despite the meager foam.

Aroma: the barrels speak first, oak and rye come right out of the nose, fruit and alcohol (11%) come next. Deep, while delicate. Pomegranate is here, accompanied by pear and apple.

Taste: Bright, ripe fruit, as before, apple, pear, pomegranate, met with cherries and berries. A switch of spice comes shining through, and the oak rises up, as well. It all coalesces, in an intriguing bl
end.

Was it red wine in the oak barrels? Not sure, but I can feel that flavor coming through. I am glad they judiciously aged a mere 1/3 of the brew, for too much would be overpowering, and I appreciate some subtlety more than ever these days.

Malt makes a good match for the high alcohol. No hops, low bitterness, but fine, funky fruit flavor, and beautiful oak additions. I'm loving this. Stirring Depth and Complexity, indeed. I've made fast friends with this Stoic.

Photo of mdfb79
3.58/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From 10/28/11 notes. Shared this with a few friends. Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into a tulip.

a - Pours a hazy yellow amber color with two inches of white head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smells of spices, pomegranate, berries, yeast, bread malts. Definite berries and fruits, but not getting any whiskey or oak. Still, enjoyable.

t - Tastes of pomegranate and berries again, oak, spices, yeast, caramel malts, light alcohol, bready malts. Lot of berries again but the oak is coming through here, as is a little bit of alcohol. Pretty nice.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. Light alcohol warmth, but not too bad considering the ABV.

o - Overall an interesting, enjoyable beer. Not what I normall think of in a Quad as it was fruiter and had a lot of berries to it, but I liked it. Would give it another shot.

Photo of Mora2000
3.37/5  rDev -12%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The beer pours a dark brown color with a tannish head. The aroma is full of nuts and toffee. I seem to remember the Hazelnut Brown Nectar from Rogue tasting similar to this beer, but it has been a long time since I have had it. The flavor is full of caramel and toffee malt with some cocoa and nuttyness. There is a cream flavor to the beer as well. Medium to thick mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nice, but not worth the price.

Photo of mothman
3.2/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a white head. Color is a bright golden orange.

Aroma: A lot of fruits. Oranges and pomegranate. French oak with rye spice. Wine flavors. Belgian yeast, bananas, and cloves.

Taste: Mimics the nose, but it is very yeasty and bready. Reminds me of an amped up wheat beer.

Mouthfeel: Dry and spiced. Medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends really dry.

Overall, a unique beer. Not a quad in my book. No clue as to what this really is, style-wise. But, I kind of like it. Somewhat drinkable.

Photo of stakem
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to JohnGalt for the trade/opportunity to try this brew. Shared with some friends, poured from a bomber into a snifter. This brew appears a clear orange to light copper color. A finger's worth of slightly off-white head appears. As the cap recedes, it leaves some webby strings of lace sticking to the glass.

The smell of this brew is spicy with yeasty notes of clove with a touch of banana. There are some bright fruity notes present which I have a hard time describing until I notice "pomegranate" included on the label. There are plenty of raw oak notes included which presents a bit of harshness to the nose of this brew.

The taste is Belgian phenols all the way. Yeasty character of clove and spices like pepper run throughout. Raw oak is present along with a dry fruity character and mild banana. The spicy alcohol produces a warmth down the back of the throat that really draws the focus on the dry and spicy side of this brew instead of the expected malty character indicative of the style.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest level of carbonation. The overall feel of this brew comes up a little short/thin. Very spicy with a huge presence of Belgian yeast that gets exaggerated by a harshness of something that smells/tastes like raw oak. The pomegranate had enough to be noticed which was an interesting change of pace. However, for a quad this one fell short. I think something as simple as calling this a Belgian strong pale ale instead of a quad would have increased my scores across the board. As a quad, this was a bit of a dissapointment but as-is it is worth a try. This would have been much better received on my end if the raw oak character was replaced with more of a used barrel presence.

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.38/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer pours into my Lost Abbey Teku glass with a light amber color that shows a brilliantly clear, pale-amber / gold hue when held up to the light. The beer is topped by a frothy, three-finger thick, light tan colored head. The aroma smells of golden raisins, clove, woody pepper, biscuit like grain, toasted oak notes and some spicy oak character that seems fresh cut, but not quite green. The toasted oak aromatics mixes well with the toasted, pale grain notes. There is a touch of tartness to the nose that couples with the general fruitiness, a cotton candy like note, a hint of cantaloupe melon notes and just a general, pretty expressive fruitiness in the nose. There is a fair amount of complexity in the nose of this beer, but it is not quite as well integrated as it could be; it is not bad, but at times the hot alcohol, phenolics, hints of acetone, sharper fruit notes, and spicy oak clash with each other.

The beer is sweet with a general fruitiness that leans towards plums, pears and apples up front, but this fruitiness leans towards the anticipated pomegranate towards the middle. The finish has some phenolic clove notes, a touch of spicy oak character, perhaps a touch of green woodiness and an astringent woodiness. The flavor is perhaps not quite as fruit focused as the aroma, but it is close to the dominant note in the flavor. The oak character is actually quite soft here; it is noticeable, but mostly stays in the background. The malt character is actually quite a bit more muted than I was expecting; there is a touch of cracker like maltiness and a touch of dried hay like grain. The body of this beer is quite light considering the strength, though this is definitely a sipping beer. As the beer warms up a bit more hot alcohol begins to come out, and the oak gets a bit more toasted and perhaps a bit more spicy as well.

I actually think that a more palate coating maltiness would really help this beer immensely, there are a few too many sharp edges to this beer right now. I am sure some age will also smooth this out a bit too, so if you only have one bottle, definitely hold on to it for at least a year or two.

Photo of Gavage
4.32/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a dark orange / copper color with a short 1/4" head that breaks apart quickly.

Smell: fruit and some alcohol create a great nose.

Taste: caramel, pomegranite, some light oak tones, very mild bitterness, and a warm alcohol burn create a tasty beer.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body. Lightly crisp to start, smooth and a bit dry at the finish. Aftertaste is long lasting.

Overall: a very slow sipping but big flavored beer. The flavors really grow as this one warms. Very enjoyable on tap.

Photo of Halcyondays
3.42/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

On-tap at Beachwood II, finally this gets to the Southland,

A: Pours a clear medium amber with a spotty soft white head. Bubbly.

S: Real nice notes of vanilla/barrel and caramel here.

T: Definitely sweet. Lots of date, sugar cane and some brown sugar. Pomegranate is minor, there is a light berry fruit character. Too underattenuated for my tastes, a problem I find in a lot of American quads.

M: Full-bodied, cloying at times, biting carbonation occasionally.

O: Glad to try it, but I'm not going to pop the money for this again. Might be good with some age.

Photo of BARFLYB
4.12/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A bottle from Blue Dog in PA, a little trickle of stuff flew in during beer week. Saw this and never had it.

Off with the wax, The Stoic is lighter in color than your average dark Belgian Quad. A amberish deep orange color grace the glass with some beige bubbles up towards the top. Good retention, minor stick.

Smell is straight up Pommegrane and Rye. The oak and whiskey are not so large with a malty quad base. Some cherry with caramel and orange. I dig the smell, it beats a mound of Candi sugar all day.

The malty sweetness is not lost here in taste. Some sugar and malt come up, but not at St. Bernardus levels. The Pommegrant and Rye barrels really shine and make way for some woody flavor with warming, yet none of the whiskey, which is fine by me.

I see they say drink this bottle in a year. I guess you could age this, but I would agree that some of the ripe rye and etc will get lost, as this will only become more sweet with time and dare I say it, more like a regular quad. The body was a sturdy medium with bubbles and activity on the mouth, just a small splash of alcohol.

Drink it up.

Photo of billab914
3.47/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle poured into my CBS snifter. It poured orange amber in color with just a trace amount of white lacing clinging to the edges of the glass.

The aroma is very floral, fruity and spicy with the Belgian yeast spices playing a big role in the flavors. The fruity, sweet, almost honey like pomegranate juice mixes with a little of the wine barrel character. The fruity, sweetness is a little too overpowering though unfortunately, and I don't get any of the rye whiskey barrel.

The taste is also dominated by the sweet, fruity, juiciness and the Belgian yeast spice. Again, I get some hints of the wine barrel, but none of the whiskey. The finish is dry with the spices and a little more of the wine barrel to it.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with carbonation being moderate. Overall it was a decent and interesting beer, but not one that really stands out. The sweet, sugary, fruitiness and spice dominated a little too much and seemed to overshadow some of the flavors I was looking forward to unfortunately.

Photo of Mebuzzard
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

At 11% abv, this is a nice drinking beer.
It looks pretty dog-gone good with a bright golden pour, and nice dense foamy head.

hints of apple, pear, caramel and pecan dance around the nose.

Flavors are those above plus some faint citrus and vanilla. Somewhat sweet in the middle but it dries out fairly well. Not sure about the Quad category, though. A bit light all around

Very nice beer and I drank it all in about 15 minutes. I was celebrating :)

Photo of DoubleJ
3.94/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at Crow Burger Kitchen, on to the beer:

It's much lighter than the usual quadruppel; it's cough syrup orange in color with little head that is quick to go away. The nose says cranberry, red wine notes, and some sugars.

It is sweet, but a controlled sweetness. There are fruit notes all over, with pear and cranberry being the dominant forces. On the smaller end, there are hints of oak and even mint. The alcohol is hidden reasonably well in this nearly full bodied beer.

Not nearly as revered as The Abyss, but The Stoic is still something to crave.

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The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 606 ratings.