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The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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241 Reviews
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Reviews: 241
Hads: 660
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 14.32%
Wants: 74
Gots: 214 | FT: 10
Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.
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Reviews: 241 | Hads: 660
Photo of blakelive784
4.01/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

22 fl oz brown glass bottle served in snifter, reviewed live:

A - Pours a cloudy, vibrant orange golden color with two fingers of fizzy white head, lively carbonation and thick yeast particles. Retention's terrible. Not what I was expecting but it's inviting nonetheless.

S - Fruit heavy. Pear, banana, apple and sweet pomegranate juice all come to mind. Crystal malts. Incredibly fresh, especially considering its age. Light indistinct spice. I don't find any oak on the nose. No alcohol.

T - Follows the nose closely. Pear and apple give a cidery feel. Pale base and crystal malt body support the fruity esters nicely. Very, very subtle vinous oak notes, but I still don't find any bourbon. Light fresh pomegranate. No alcohol comes through at all. I'm having it.

M - Medium bodied and crisp. Perfect thickness.

D - It won't satisfy your craving if you're looking for a typical quad, but it's one hell of a beer. Insanely drinkable at 11%. I'll be having it again. (975 characters)

Photo of sirtomtom
2.34/5  rDev -37.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Drank on 3/4/2013. Best After date of 8/2012

A: Pours a hazy golden orange with a shallow white head, dissipating quickly leaving a thin white ring on the glass.

S: Nuts, seeds, wet soil. Rather odd

T: A bit sweet, malty, nutty, again an attribute that reminds me of wet soil, finishing with a bit of tartness. A nice bit of hot alcohol after the finish.

M: Moderately carbonated, a bit sweet, with a dry finish.

O: Definitely odd for a Quad. Nothing really remarkable about it, except the odd flavors. Definitely disappointing for one of Deschutes's reserve beers. (570 characters)

Photo of rawfish
4.14/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours medium amber, light for a quad, dense cap of tight off white foam, finger high with pretty good retention. Lacing doesn't quite form but there is some clinging bubbles to the glass. Effervescent bubbles and what looks like fruit pieces or yeast chunks floating in the glass.

Candi spun sugar, light sweetness. Tart fruit, apple cider, red berries, tangerines, lemon and vinegar with complexities of whiskey, muscat and oak. Interesting, and bright, almost souring aroma to it.

Taffy sweetness to the malt, brown sugar, with fruit flavors; apples, pear, white grapes, lemon with a slight edge of green aplle, lemon tartness. I really do get some oaky complexity coupled with a light touch of whiskey. Finish is dominated with tartness of grapes and a mild sweetness. Tart and drying oak at the finish, quite nice.

High carbonation muddles the flavors a bit but it's easy to drink. Medium body and the alcohol has really faded.

Outside impressions of this beer had me worried, a year after acquiring this one it's time to crack it open. This is a quad with almost no Belgian flair to it, if uncategorized it's a complex beer mixing lightly toasted and sweet malt, oak and lightly sour fruit aspects. Rather than Stoic and rigid, this beer dances over the confines of the definition "quad" and delivers a delightful sensory experience. (1,342 characters)

Photo of Resuin
4.29/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a bomber into a Westvleteren goblet. No 'drink by 'date on the bottle, but I know the date for The Stoic was like 6 months ago. I'm sure this one can age decently though.

Appearance: Pours a desert-pear, light brown, dark orange color with minimal off-white head.

Smell: Some funk comes out initially followed by sweet, Belgian aromas. Definitely vanilla and fruit as well dominating this smell.

Taste: This is a very sweet beer. Plenty of spices come out in this one - coriander, pineapple, even some plum. Extremely balanced and smooth-tasting, especially for this ABV.

Mouth-feel: Excellent mouth-feel - a good amount of carbonation, on the lighter-bodied side but not light.

Overall: A very nice "quad". Definitely has plenty of Belgian quad qualities, but it is significantly different from any quad I have had. The pomegranate definitely adds some interesting qualities and gives it some interesting funk. A lovely beer. (943 characters)

Photo of Karbella
4.22/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Note: Purchased and opened after it's "Best by" date of 08/04/12

A - Pour dark murkey almost orange gold color, very light fizzy head. Lots of fine bubbles

S - Estery, almost get a little pear as well as some apple. A fair amount of spicy sweetness as well.

T - Strong spiced cider taste, a lot of apple and pear. Finishes with a little wine and booze.

M - I think this was the bottle a little long, too much carbonation but otherwise very smooth with a medium body.

O - I think I would have enjoyed it slightly better in it's prime, but a very good Belgian. One of the best I've had from a large American brewery. Easy to tell that it was done with a vast amount of precision and care. I hope this isn't just a one time release so I can see what they do with it again. The nose matches and compliments the taste very well, and it overall has a nice amount of complexity to it that doesn't stray too far in any direction. (926 characters)

Photo of Knapp85
3.82/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a light brown color with a nice looking white head on top. The retention is pretty good as well as the lacing. The smell of the beer gives off some quad like aromas, there is some fruity and bready aromas. The barrel aging aromas are prominent. The taste of the beer has a slight tartness to it. The flavors of dark fruits come out with some oak elements in there also. The mouthfeel had a solid amount to carbonation, the body is a little on the thin side. Overall it's a decent quad. The color is a little on the light side and is need a little more body. (576 characters)

Photo of peensteen
4.17/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep orange colour, ring of white head, some lace as well. Smell is quite oaky, fruity and vinous, quite a bit of funk and a bit of musty brett presumably from the wine barrels, some candy apple present as well. Taste is yeasty and fruity, apple followed by oak and some funk, brett, more fruit toward the finish and maybe a hint of whisky however it does get buried by tons of fruit and funky oak here. Light-medium carbonation, medium feel. This was quite a nice and certainly interesting brew, not a quad in my books but certainly a pleasure to have had. (557 characters)

Photo of Sammy
3.88/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

good beer, but not your father’s quad. Rather mid yellow with big lasting head, lace. Sweet, and some tartness from the pomegranate. Overall I get more berry than pomegranate.Complex, sweet dominates but it is not cloying. Smooth mouthfeel and good drinkability. Thanks Presario. (281 characters)

Photo of whoneeds8
4.02/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Best by date: 8/4/2012
Batch: H

Poured into a Chimay Chalice a golden orange. Odd for the style. Nice one finger white head that disapated quicly. Bare minimal lacing. Scent is strong of raisins and grapefruit. Taste is strong of grapes, either a grape flavor from the wine barrels or the raisin flavor that goes with a Quad. There is also a vanilla note from the oak barrels that is noticiable in the after taste. The mouthfeel has a correct body weight for the style, and the carbonation is suprisingly high for it's age and being barrel aged. One quarter of my chalice has gone by and it's still producing a large amount of bubbles.

Overall, it's an odd Quad. The wine barrels are still noticeable. But I can't find any whiskey except for what is questionably a whisky burn way beyond the after taste of my palette. (821 characters)

Photo of cvm4
4.08/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours a very cloudy/murky copper. Nice one finger head that leaves nothing behind.

S - Caramel & candied fruit along with some spices.

T - Lots of sweet & spices going on here. Getting a lot of bananas & pears. I can't muddle through the spices but it's very pronounced.

M - Medium body & carbonation. Can't detect much alcohol.

O - I'm loving this quad. Much more than the belgians I've had. (404 characters)

Photo of denver10
3.05/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Not quite sure what to expect from this one but super curious to try it.

Pours a hazy golden with a little bit of an orange tint. A white head that quickly recedes. Aroma offers some belgian yeast giving off some fruity esters.,big banana,some apple and then there's the pomegranate giving off some nice tartness, the barrels, and some alcohol. Flavor is really quite interesting. You get the typcial belgian quad flavors with the yeast and its fruity esters (largely banana) but you also get the pomegranate which cuts the sweetness and offers some tartness to this thing, and then some discrete woodiness. Some alcohol in the finish but not too bad, given the earlier reviews here time must have tamed it some. A fuller mouthfeel, some creaminess not much activity. Overall, I liked this one a lot more upon my first few sips than I did on my last few sips. I shared this bottle with someone else and glad I did because I couldn't have drank more than the 12 oz's I got. I guess I'd consider an alright brew in small portions, but the fact that it got a little cloying for me the more of it I drank was definitely a let down. Interesting beer, yes, good beer? Not as much so. (1,178 characters)

Photo of deltatauhobbit
4.25/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours into a chalice a hazy golden orange color, head is very minimal with hardly any lacing on the glass.

Smell starts out with a strong tart fruity aroma, pomegranate, Belgian candied sugar add to the aroma, some other spicy esters, hints of alcohol is evident to the nose.

Taste is rather light and crispy for a Quad, likely from the pomegranate which adds a nice fruity tartness, not overly sweet but plenty enough from the candied sugar, carbonation is active and bubbly in the mouth even though it wasn't in the glass, alcohol is more than evident but isn't too distracting.

An interesting Quad, definitely more fruity than most so if fruit in a beer is a turnoff to you, you might want to avoid this one. (714 characters)

Photo of AgentMunky
4.34/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a Koningshoven chalice. Best by 4 August 2012. Batch H. 11% ABV.

A: No head. Golden hazy-bright. Pale for a quad.

S: Strong and very sweet. Heavy, spicy fruit. Touch of vanilla. Heavy alcohol.

T: This is a damned good beer. Spicy, layered, and delicate. Deep grapes, heavy liquored fruits, and spicy-tart dessert. Engaging, though not transcendental Belgian yeast. I might not be able to differentiate this from a Belgian quad (which is a huge compliment). Tart alcohol reminds me distinctly of a pina colada...both pineapple and coconut are inexplicably (but undeniably) present. The finish is pleasant and reminiscent of fresh peach.

M: Nice, but unnoticeable.

O: A great beer and an exceptional quad. Highly recommend to (and drinkable by) all. Will have again. (805 characters)

Photo of angrybabboon
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for giving this to me for my birthday last year (now sharing it with him)

Consumed 10/12/12

Appearance: Hazy, dark orange/light amber with some gold around the edges - Pours with a little, off-white head and leaves some nice spotty lacing

Smell: Fruity and Belgian - pomegranate is pretty obvious, works very well with the yeasty banana esters and bubblegum - fruity sweetness and some malty sweetness - cooked, caramelized malts, nice but not really a quad-level of malts - spicy yeastiness and some very light rye spiciness - some booze as well

Taste: Sweet and fruity, in a good way - pomegranate, bananas, and other light fruits including pears, apples - spicy Belgian yeast, with some clove, and some rye - some oak, in nice balance - caramel malts - some booze, as would be expected with the ABV

Mouthfeel: Medium body, adequately carbonated, some alcohol heat

Overall: Strange but pleasant

I don't really think this is a quad, but I don't know what kind of label it deserves. It's boozy and fruity, but in a good way. I'm not sure how to rate this, but I guess I will be nice. At the very least, this is very interesting. (1,159 characters)

Photo of Goblinmunkey7
3.33/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to angrybabboon for sharing the bottle.

Appearance: Hazy peach. Head is bubbly, bright-white and small. Drops to a thin collar and cap. Moderate carbonation on the pour. Deep yellow and orange hues.

Smell: Belgian smoothie. Banana, tropical fruit (must be the pomegranate), orange and some minor cherry. Oak adds a nice layer of vanilla-like smoothness. Big fruity sweetness. Some pale malts in the back. Mild roasted character. Light breadiness with some backing caramel sweetness. Some backing herbal spiciness.

Taste: Oak barrel and fruit juice. Loaded with pomegranate flesh and sweetness. Some caramel malt sweetness as well. Reminds me of a smoothie if you hit it with some Belgian yeast culture. Mild backing earthiness. Some spice from the yeast as well. Oak smooths everything out a bit. Banana and apple in good measure. Super fruity. Flavors come across a bit muddled. Nice complexity, but the flavors hit in waves instead of blending together. Pepper and flowers.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, slightly creamy. Moderate carbonation with a just under medium body. Relatively clean with some lingering yeast.

Overall: Decent, but lacks that standard of Deschutes perfection.

I trust Deschutes to make a benchmark beer no matter what they do. This fell short of this pedigree as the flavors ultimately failed to coalesce into a coherent flavor. Lots of complexity, but it never goes anywhere.

I can't view this as a quad. It's a loose use of the term and as such I treated the beer as some imagined Belgian-American strong ale. (1,542 characters)

Photo of johnnnniee
3.21/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a medium amber color with a huge bubbly white ehad that slowly dissipates leaving much lace. Smells of tart fruit, spicy oak tannins, orange peel, yeasty funk and a bit of grape skins. It doesn't look or smell like what I expected. The flavor is moderately sweet with some light sugar, a bit of apples, some non descript tart fruit, a hint of caramel, some wine like tannins, grape skins, and a fair shot of ethanol. There's a hint of vanilla and oak in the flavor but they are very subtle. Medium body with a moderate level of carbonation and a sweet bubbly mouthfeel. This is an OK beer, but I didn't love it that's for sure. I think the pomegranate adds a fruity tartness that makes it feel a bit like a sour bottle; the wine barrel adds to this as well. I was expecting a dark caramel and raisin beer with maybe some hints of barrel and tart fruit. What I tasted was a tart fruity Belgian with hints of caramel and pomme fruits. (938 characters)

Photo of cdkrenz
5/5  rDev +32.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Cellared above 45 degrees for a year, and worth the time... without a doubt.

Unbelievable. I'm not sure if this beer it that remarkable or if its my love of quads coming through after not having had one in awhile. The look, the smell, the flavors, the texture, it has it all. I have to say it is a 5.0. (303 characters)

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.45/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

This looks...unusual for a quad. Smells nice though. The beer in its entirety is...uninspiring. It was nice to drink, but not interesting enough to distract me to go write down some notes about it as I worked on other things. Slightly boozy with a bit of a burn. The pomegranate provides an interesting touch, but only a one dimensional one. If this is a quad, okay, I can roll with that...I guess. Overall though, it's not very interesting. A brewery like Deschutes has earned my respect by producing a lot of interesting beers that I really enjoy. However. This is not one of them. A miss, in my book. (603 characters)

Photo of TheRealBigC
3.03/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Really didn't like this one as much as the folks at the bar had me anticipating. It's really, really strong. The complex flavor helps hide it a little, but between the tartness and the banana & yeasty in-your-face flavor, I couldn't even put the whole thing down. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of the style, but I know I've had better. Maybe I expect Deschutes to knock it out of the park every time and I feel slightly disappointed. (431 characters)

Photo of Daniellobo
3.97/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice barrel aged take on a quad, albeit a bit short of its promise.

Presentation: 22 oz brown capped and waxed bottle. Light cream label trying to look aged with old burgundy typography over a small fading image of a saint/stoic character. Side notes offer a small narrative about characteristics and intent. Shows bottling date 08/04/12 and 11% Alc. by Vol. Served in a snifter.

A - Clear deep amber pour, 1/2" frothy head, medium to low retention, fair surface memory and some touches of lacing.

S - Faint fruity and yeasty nose, medicinal hint, pleasing with notes of malt under that first impression...

T - Yeasty, generic fruity notes over caramel and crushed sugar, a bit of plums, remote vinous notes, the barrels are so soft they almost feel absent.

M - Medium body with medium crisp carbonation, fairly smooth flow with a small dry touch as it finishes.

O - Pleasing quad, plenty of good qualities although a bit short of the ambitious program it presented.

Notes: Nice brew, no flaws really, but the barrel felt short of the delicate notes it promised, and similarly the same went for the addition of fruit. (1,125 characters)

Photo of TheCondor
3.63/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Side poured from the 22oz bomber into a Chimay chalice and a tulip glass. I shared this with my dad, and was very excited about cracking it open given the price tag and the general tendency of Deschutes to crush beers out of the park. Best by 8/4/12.

Appearance - Pours a nice looking orange color with a sticky one finger head that leaves wicked good lacing on the sides of the glass. Cool packaging on the bottle, carbonation action can be seen in the glass.

Smell - Fruity for sure, pomegranate, sweet, tangy, and tart all at the same time. Sour cherries certainly play a big role in the smell, but there is a hint of yeast in the background as well.

Taste - The taste is a little unusual, it kind of seems like it clashes a bit. There is certainly your standard fruits from the nose, cherries, pomegranate, coriander, but there is also a funkiness and yeast that comes in as well. I was a little disappointed in the taste of this, as I typically expect Deschutes to destroy it. Maybe I expected too much, but it just didn't seem the taste was well put together. There was no whiskey taste at all, despite the aging in rye barrels.

Mouthfeel - Medium to big bodied, smooth finish with a slight yeasty funk in the aftertaste. Nothing wrong with it.

Overall - I would certainly recommend trying this beer, although I think I expected too much out of it. Given the price tag and the past brewery performance, I was expecting something phenomenal, but it was just a decent quad. Certainly not Three Philosophers, I'll tell you that. Worth a try though. (1,557 characters)

Photo of Dreadnaught33
4.03/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared thanks to Jim, thanks man.

The beer has an incredibly strange look for a quad, it pours like an ipa with a orange pretty clear lo and a ring of white head and some lacing.

Smell is definitely quad like with some some dark fruits with the pomegranate there for sure, brown sugar, Belgian yeast, alcohol ester and heat and sweetness. Nice vanilla too.

The flavor is complex, the pomegranate has a nice platform as the fruity note with nice Belgian yeast and a healthy brown sugar and toffee like sweetness. A nice dryness and also a healthy depth of flavor at the same time. Vanilla. It's complex but at the same time it doesn't seem to have the direction and sofistication of the big Belgian quads, but it's still nice, but a touch muddled. (758 characters)

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.59/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bomber of the 2011 vintage pours a surprisingly golden color with a modest off-white head. Best by 08/04/12, it seems like it could go another year or so though. Not much retention and lacing. A pretty poor excuse for a quad if you ask me.

Nose has an awesomely interesting combination of wine and whiskey barrels. Tangy, tart, sweet and malty. Very vinous, and a bit hot smelling still after a year or so.

Taste has mellowed since it was released a bit and the flavors have come together a little bit better. I like the bready aspect the malt gives off despite the light color. The flavors are still a bit odd together though and I think the ABV is unnecessarily high at 11%. The pomegranate seems to clash a bit with the soft yeast and propagates an alcoholic feel. If you want something different, this is your beer. I am not a huge fan it though, especially for a Deschutes specialty brew. (901 characters)

Photo of ngeunit1
4.32/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a very hazy golden-orange color with a finger of frothy white head. The head fades down at a normal pace leaving behind some lacing.

S - Aroma is a mix of Belgian yeast esters including banana and clove, sweet caramel malts, candi sugars, oak, wine grape, vanilla, pomegranate, a bit of lemon, and some booze.

T - Starts off with some Belgian yeast with banana, clove, and bit of coriander, with some caramel malts and candi sugars, and a bit of vanilla. Through the middle, some oak and vanilla comes through with a bit of wine grapes, Bourbon, and a bit of dark fruit and pomegranate. The finish is a mix of Belgian yeast flavors with some banana, clove, oak, grape, pomegranate, candi sugar, and some booze.

M - Medium-full bodied with moderate carbonation. Feels smooth with a sweet and warming finish.

D - Very drinkable. Nice balance of flavors and the barrel aging adds to the beer nicely. Not really a Quad, but still very tasty. (951 characters)

Photo of yamar68
4.42/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 22oz bomber to over-sized Mikkeller wine glass. Best by 08/04/12. I thought this one would be a worthy candidate for aging but if they insist otherwise, who am I to disagree?

Pours a hazy gold with hints of brown and ruby. A finger of sticky, well-laced head suggests a bit of alcohol.

What a bright smelling beer... overripe cherries, mellow woods, dates, some spicy yeast, licorice, plum, lots of goodness.

Tons of balance. No discernible alcohol presence. Those standard quad fruits make an obvious appearance. Bits of vanilla and caramel come with the wood notes. There's a lot here and it evolves continuously with warmth.

A great beer that I think just has too much going on if you're seeking a run-of-the-mill Belgian style quad. If you know what to expect, though, you'll keep coming back for more. (823 characters)

The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
85 out of 100 based on 241 ratings.