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The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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86
very good

557 Ratings
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Ratings: 557
Reviews: 221
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 14.92%
Wants: 63
Gots: 179 | FT: 7
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Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

(Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011)
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champ103

Texas

3.65/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: Pours a clear amber/orange color. A two finger white head forms and recedes in a minute. Plenty of sticky lace is left behind.
S: Oak, fruits, toasted and buttery malt. More of a tart grape aroma comes out as this warms.
T: Again, oak, light tart fruits, toasted malt. Lightly buttery. Burnt sugars and caramel.
M/D: A medium body that is a bit thin. Not hard to drink. The alcohol is not showing at all. I can finish the bottle without a problem.

Interesting, and certainly enjoyable. I think Deschutes has done much better, but nothing wrong with this. Worth a try.

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2011 02:03:05 | More by champ103
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tjkinate

Nebraska

3.6/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Was hoping the reviews had been wrong. Wasn't bad, I actually enjoyed it, mostly.

Poured into a standard pint glass that produced a single fingered off white head that diminished kinda quickly. The body was orange and slightly cloudy, not the prettiest. I smelled pomegranate, some cherries, and sour notes. Smelled more like a lambic than a quad. Very different taste than expected, some fruits detectable, but the vanilla and oak that followed were most prominent. Flavors are short lived and a bit mellow. Medium/light bodied with good carbonation.

Overall not bad, just didn't deserve to be a limited release.

Serving type: bottle

11-08-2011 23:01:39 | More by tjkinate
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elNopalero

Texas

4.2/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I think this received a lot of hype when it came out, and a lot of backlash from that hype. But that’s old news now and in a way it’s good, because it gives one an opportunity to review and evaluate the beer on it’s merits.

First off, for a Belgian style quad this looks nothing like what I’d expect it to be. Not that I’m complaining, mind you. But it’s so… light! Not the burgundy amber I’d expect, but not the clear straw-golden color of, say, a triple. Somewhere inbetween. Apparently aged in wine barrels, and that definitely comes through on the dry finish. An experiment, hybrid, curious beer that’s no where near the monstrosity I was led to believe it would be.

Serving type: bottle

11-08-2011 21:56:42 | More by elNopalero
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rlee1390

Indiana

3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-Cloudy/translucent orange with a two finger head, doesn't stay around long but swirlling gets it back.

S-Fruity, pomegranate, wine

T-Interesting, combination of fruit. It have the pomegranate but also some of the darker fruits you'd expect from a Quad. The aging in the wine barrels in easily noticeable.

M-Lighter with some carbonation.

O-Am I disappointed? A little when compared to the other Deschutes Reserve beers. This one was unique. I have another bottle to age and we'll see what happens in a year. Although I'm not sure how much room there is for an increase.

Serving type: bottle

11-05-2011 14:40:52 | More by rlee1390
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DaftCaskBC

British Columbia (Canada)

4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: 1/4" light honey coloured head over amber liquid.

S: Wine, oak, fruit (I could say pomegranate because I read the label like everyone else but I'll admit that my sense of smell isn't that refined) and yeast.

T: Alcohol up front and an oak and red wine finish. While these aren't the only flavours going on here, they are definitely the most prominent. It is quite a complex beer.

M: Medium viscosity and a high level of fine carbonation.

O: Complex flavours in a package with too much of an alcohol taste.

Serving type: bottle

11-04-2011 04:27:19 | More by DaftCaskBC
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DividedAvery

Colorado

3.93/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from 22oz bomber into a New Belgium Snifter

A: Pours a light and slightly hazy golden. Some brown colors in there, the head is white and about one finger

S: Lots of bread, yeast and the pomegranate, some spices in there as well.

T: The beer is fairly smooth. Quad? Maybe not. Delicious? Yes Overpriced? Probably. Too much going on? Defnitely
I get a lot of the flavors mentioned, not a lot of the wine barrel, but a lot of dryness from the rye whiskey.

M: Lots of carbonation, the beer has a fairly light mouthfeel

O: Like I said, there is too much going on here. I appreciate the effort and ingenuity put into this beer, but it doesn't quite come off. I won't pay 12 dollars for it again, but I wouldn't turn it down from a friend.

Serving type: bottle

11-03-2011 01:18:06 | More by DividedAvery
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mdfb79

New York

3.58/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From 10/28/11 notes. Shared this with a few friends. Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into a tulip.

a - Pours a hazy yellow amber color with two inches of white head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smells of spices, pomegranate, berries, yeast, bread malts. Definite berries and fruits, but not getting any whiskey or oak. Still, enjoyable.

t - Tastes of pomegranate and berries again, oak, spices, yeast, caramel malts, light alcohol, bready malts. Lot of berries again but the oak is coming through here, as is a little bit of alcohol. Pretty nice.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. Light alcohol warmth, but not too bad considering the ABV.

o - Overall an interesting, enjoyable beer. Not what I normall think of in a Quad as it was fruiter and had a lot of berries to it, but I liked it. Would give it another shot.

Serving type: bottle

11-02-2011 20:43:28 | More by mdfb79
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stakem

Pennsylvania

3.73/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to JohnGalt for the trade/opportunity to try this brew. Shared with some friends, poured from a bomber into a snifter. This brew appears a clear orange to light copper color. A finger's worth of slightly off-white head appears. As the cap recedes, it leaves some webby strings of lace sticking to the glass.

The smell of this brew is spicy with yeasty notes of clove with a touch of banana. There are some bright fruity notes present which I have a hard time describing until I notice "pomegranate" included on the label. There are plenty of raw oak notes included which presents a bit of harshness to the nose of this brew.

The taste is Belgian phenols all the way. Yeasty character of clove and spices like pepper run throughout. Raw oak is present along with a dry fruity character and mild banana. The spicy alcohol produces a warmth down the back of the throat that really draws the focus on the dry and spicy side of this brew instead of the expected malty character indicative of the style.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest level of carbonation. The overall feel of this brew comes up a little short/thin. Very spicy with a huge presence of Belgian yeast that gets exaggerated by a harshness of something that smells/tastes like raw oak. The pomegranate had enough to be noticed which was an interesting change of pace. However, for a quad this one fell short. I think something as simple as calling this a Belgian strong pale ale instead of a quad would have increased my scores across the board. As a quad, this was a bit of a dissapointment but as-is it is worth a try. This would have been much better received on my end if the raw oak character was replaced with more of a used barrel presence.

Serving type: bottle

11-01-2011 19:07:41 | More by stakem
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Gavage

New Jersey

4.33/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a dark orange / copper color with a short 1/4" head that breaks apart quickly.

Smell: fruit and some alcohol create a great nose.

Taste: caramel, pomegranite, some light oak tones, very mild bitterness, and a warm alcohol burn create a tasty beer.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body. Lightly crisp to start, smooth and a bit dry at the finish. Aftertaste is long lasting.

Overall: a very slow sipping but big flavored beer. The flavors really grow as this one warms. Very enjoyable on tap.

Serving type: on-tap

11-01-2011 18:44:36 | More by Gavage
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stormywaters

California

4.78/5  rDev +25.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Suprised how light and clear this looks for a quad. I am used to thick dark quads and this is definitely more belgian to me.

a little bit of spices, a lot of carbonation, and almost a cidery type taste. Very delicious beer, one to stock up on for sure.

The 11% is hidden very well and easy to drink, i could get carried away on this one really quick.

Overall this really is an excellent beer, easily in my top 10.

Serving type: bottle

10-28-2011 00:23:32 | More by stormywaters
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zhanson88

California

3.1/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours a very clear copper color with 1.5" of pure white head. Retention is quite nice, and lacing is good as well. As many others before me have said, a less than desirable appearance for a quad.

Smell: Heavy citrus, bubblegum, and clove. Don't get a lot of pomegranate, but I do get some rye whiskey character. A bit spicy, but not real boozy. Interesting, but as many others before me have said, a less than desirable smell for a quad.

Taste: Citrus and clove are heavy up front. A bit sweet and cloying initially. Spicy rye and oak come out on the back end and finish. As many others before me have said, a less than desirable taste for a quad.

Mouthfeel/Overall: Light bodied with quite a bit of fine, abundant carbonation. Pretty smooth going down. Overall, I didn't mind this beer so much. If Deschutes had called it a barrel aged saison, or BSPA, the score would have gone up exponentially. A rare miss for this brewery.

Serving type: bottle

10-25-2011 03:59:43 | More by zhanson88
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dogfishandi

New York

3.4/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

thanks to youradhere for this bottle!

22oz waxed and capped bottle at about fridge temp poured into a snifter. best before 8/4/12

pours out kind of a deep golden color, IMO way to light for a Quad. nice frothy white head, maybe 2 fingers. decent lacing and retention.

a big yeasty bubblegum smell rules almost the whole aroma. slightly fruity, but definatly no pomegrante, or any presence of barrel aging.

follows the aroma, lots of bubblegummy yeast, phenolic, and lots of fruity esters. but again, doesnt appear to taste barrel aged or brewed with pomegrante.

medium to full in body, adequate carbonation.

overall, pretty disappointed.when i heard deschutes, a very well respected brewery in my eyes, was making a barrel aged quad with pomegrante, i was thinking delicious. but i was disappointed. the untrained eye could fool this for a really strong basic saison. i would avoid this.

Serving type: bottle

10-24-2011 22:24:17 | More by dogfishandi
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mwilbur

Minnesota

2.95/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from 22 oz bottle stamped best by 08/04/12 into snifter.
A: Pours a golden amber with high carbonation producing a 1 inch white head that quickly recedes. Appears very light for style.
S: Fruit (pomegranate?), sweet caramel malt, and a whiff of whiskey. Fairly sweet and light.
T: Mild whiskey, banana, clove, sweet caramel malt, mixed fruit. Jumbled and too sweet...tried too hard on this one.
M: Medium body...lighter than one would expect given the ABV. Oily sweet.
D: Love the idea, the label, and the name...other than that not so good. Doesn't do the style justice.

Serving type: bottle

10-24-2011 03:31:42 | More by mwilbur
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russwbeck

Virginia

2.68/5  rDev -29.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A: I had seen video of how clear this pour was, but it still surprised me. A quadruple that's clear yellow with hints of orange? Strange. Fluffy white head sticks around for a long while.

S: The aroma is that of a quad, surprisingly. Deep, dark fruits, booze, and instead of candied sugar, I get a lot of wheat. It's very much like a quad, but has some other parts I'm not familiar with.

T: The taste is sort of like a quad. Dark fruits, plums maybe some raisins, and just a TON of booze. Don't get me confused, I'm not talking about I can taste alcohol, I'm talking straight alcohol booze. The wheat/sugar flavor come up on the back end, which is warming due to the alcohol.

MF: Medium body, carbonated well. The aftertaste is full of booze that warms that body as you drink.

O: Really disappointed in this. I don't really understand where they went wrong, but it should be back to the drawing board for this one.

Serving type: bottle

10-23-2011 01:21:23 | More by russwbeck
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bravejoejoe

Montana

3.35/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - a amber golden color not much of a head
S - not much of a smell here.
T- alcohol, pepper, fall spices, there is some sweetness there also but I think I woul expect that due to such a large grain bill
M - carbonation is very present.
Not to familiar with quads but it is decent, just not my favorite style of beer.

Serving type: on-tap

10-21-2011 20:27:05 | More by bravejoejoe
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Fenris244

Texas

3.7/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured as usual into my duvel tulip

Pours a clear light orange with a 1 finger off white head, little retention but has some good retention. Carbonation is apparent within the beer via some thin strings, most of the big beers I've had lately have had almost none...

Spicy in the nose, some wood like char as well as some cinnamon and clove. Candy sugar and some dark fruits are also there.

A little plum, good amount of sweetness, like honey, hop bitterness is nice leaves a lingering grapefruit taste. Some grape like flavors are present as well, warms as it finishes due to the alcohol.

Medium to heavy in body, decently smooth, light in carbonation

Overall, It's good but I feel like something is missing, It's lacing something I cant quite put my finger on, I like it but I dont know why but I dont really want it...

Serving type: bottle

10-21-2011 01:21:51 | More by Fenris244
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Arbitrator

California

2/5  rDev -47.6%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Chilled bottle into a glass. Shared at a tasting.

A: Pours a clear, golden body that immediately raises my skepticism. Is this another Kaggen prank? It doesn't look like a quad AT ALL. It's not even the right color.

S: A mix of apples, pears, something fruity I can't place (reading the bottle suggests this is pomegranate), bubblegum. This is... disjointed. I get the feeling they were going for a Voltron theme here, but they seem to have achieved Voltron's inbred cousin.

T: Tart, dark fruit; bubblegum; some presence of apples, pears; bread; yeast; whiskey, and a touch of oak. WOW. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE? It's like they threw darts at the wall and generated a random beer with the result. Hilarious.

M: Thin-bodied, poorly integrated.

O: In a display of how disappointing this was, I didn't even commit my usual Dexter-like ritual of slicing the wax open and stealing it as a souvenir. A swing and a miss for Deschutes.

Serving type: bottle

10-20-2011 03:50:25 | More by Arbitrator
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jnezda

Texas

4.13/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured clear and light brown with an off white 2 finger head head into a 40cl goblet. Good lacing throughout to the end but poor head retention. Bottle indacated that it would be good for 15 months from purchase but date so this would have been a good beer to age. Aroma is very sweet with hints of dark fruit and sugar. Mouthfeel was a little thin for a quad but very pleasant with just a hint of hops and tons of full belgian malts. Good balance between sweet and malt with a dose of hops. Not as full bodied as many other quads but definitely worth the money. I will go back and get some to age.

Serving type: bottle

10-20-2011 03:18:01 | More by jnezda
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largadeer

California

2.1/5  rDev -45%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Beddachedda shared this one. Thanks, Evan.

Appearance: The Stoic pours a clear golden color, not exactly quad-like but attractive nonetheless. The head is tall and lasting.

Aroma: The nose is overwhelmingly sweet, showcasing bubblegum and raw sugar, some tart fruitiness from the pomegranate I suppose, but really just overwhelming sweetness and yeast. Clove, breadiness, a bit vinous - plenty of depth but none of it is appealing.

Palate: Sweet, vinous, fruity. Cloying but also slightly tart. Dark fruit and red wine, clove, bready malt. Becomes more tannic and dry in the finish. Pretty mediocre and not particularly drinkable, I dumped my glass after a few ounces. Deschutes isn't doing so well with these reserve series beers this year.

Serving type: bottle

10-19-2011 21:19:25 | More by largadeer
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FosterJM

California

4.1/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

875th Review on BA
Bottle to Goblet
22oz

2011

Best by: 8/4/12
Purchased from El Cerrito Liquor

App- A medium clear orange with a tinge of pink/yellow in it. Small 1/2 finger very fast receding and loud head. A touch of cling towards the bottom of the glass.

Smell- Retains a lot of things on the nose. You get a bit of the pomegranate fruit first. Secondly comes the wine line astringent notes with the tannins. The barrels of the whisky and barrel come lastly. A bit think but hides the 11% very well.

Taste- I will admit I was a bit nervous about this one from reviews. I have become a big fan of rye in my beers and the mix of the fruit and whispy booze works well. The mix of oak barrel and the rye is a pleasant mix. It's a bit thin but well layered across the flavor mix. The pomegranate adds a bit of juice and the wine barrel adds a bit of tannin. The rye whiskey adds a bit of spice on the end.

Mouth- A lighter medium bodied beer with a light medium carbonation. Juicy, rye, spicy and a bit stringy.

Drink- This again was a bit scary for me. Although besides the small head and lack of deep color of normal quad colors and some small aromatics. Everthing worked well for me. Big, layered and a tad sweet from the quad flavors.

Serving type: bottle

10-19-2011 01:47:14 | More by FosterJM
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bs870621345

New Jersey

4.15/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is by no means a bad beer, however I will attempt to rate to style...

Pours an amber orange color with a nice amount of head, but no lacing...it's not a bad color, but not a quad color.

Smells of grapes, apples, pears, alcohol, whiskey, chardonnay...no real pomegranate smell.

Taste opens up with the apples and pears moving into an alcohol, chardonnay flavor. Finishes dry with a lingering fruit like finish. I detect no pomegranate, but I'm really enjoying this beer.

Mouthfeel is moderate with nice carbonation...nothing wrong with it at all.

Overall, it's pretty good, definitely not a flop from deschates at all.

Serving type: bottle

10-16-2011 00:13:20 | More by bs870621345
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jera1350

Minnesota

3.73/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours an orange hues gold with a ring of foam around the glass. A touch of lacing.

A bit light smelling. Belgian yeast, pale malt and solid sweetness with floral and spice notes.

Sweet with lighter malts, fruity notes with some sourness and a touch of whiskey. Not as big of flavor as I would expect from a beer with this type of brewing/aging process.

Thin for the style, very dry.

A decent beer, but doesn't completely fit the style. The barrel aging is hardly noticeable and the price is not warranted for this beer. It is enjoyable, but doesn't live up to the hype.

Serving type: bottle

10-15-2011 21:32:41 | More by jera1350
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robbrandes

Oregon

3.73/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz poured into a tulip.

slightly hazy, tangerine~amber in color. head is slight, recedes to almost zero.

rather faint nose, but interesting from what i can pick-up - fruity, bits of the belgian yeast, the tartness actually comes through - almost smells like a white wine.

taste - extremely tart, almost citrusy, i wouldn't have guessed pomegranite, but that's certainly the culprit. there's enough malt here to pull it back from the edge. nice bready-yeasty middle and a crazy-dry finish the alcohol is very subtle. typically excellent deschutes mouthfeel body.

not a stellar beer, but glad i tried. could be interesting to lay down for a year or two.

Serving type: bottle

10-15-2011 05:44:13 | More by robbrandes
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litheum94

California

3.43/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle. Best by 8/4/12. Reviewed 10/5/11.

Amber body with a compact, faintly brown head. Lots of tiny bubbles that slowly fizz away. Leaves some minor lacing on the glass.

Aromas of oak, pomegranates, Belgian candi and yeast, spicy alcohol and other fruit sweetness. Honey and vanilla, maybe some banana.

Earthy and malty at first, gives way to semi-sweet fruit flavors, pomegranate and berries. A slightly sour oak barrel funk with a good bite of alcohol. Very warming to the mouth. The alcohol mellows a touch as the beer warms. High carbonation.

A decent take on the style. Didn't blow me away, but enjoyable all the same.

Serving type: bottle

10-14-2011 03:58:12 | More by litheum94
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fatmcb1

Texas

3.58/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, yellow and orangish color with a ring of white head.

Smells is fruity esters with some malt and yeast also. I can pick up the pomegranate, but no whiskey.

It is mainly tart flavor with a lot of fruit. It is balanced by caramel and malt. Again, I taste no whiskey flavor.

It is medium bodied with a decent amount of carbonation.

Overall, I felt this kind of missed the mark for a Quad, and would better be represent by the Tripel style. The percentage that was aged in bourbon barrels did not give off the faintest scent or taste of bourbon. A rare miss for Deschutes.

Serving type: bottle

10-14-2011 03:09:32 | More by fatmcb1
The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 557 ratings.