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The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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The StoicThe Stoic

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86
very good

571 Ratings
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Ratings: 571
Reviews: 223
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 14.92%
Wants: 64
Gots: 183 | FT: 7
Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

(Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011)
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Photo of dogfishandi
3.4/5  rDev -11%

thanks to youradhere for this bottle!

22oz waxed and capped bottle at about fridge temp poured into a snifter. best before 8/4/12

pours out kind of a deep golden color, IMO way to light for a Quad. nice frothy white head, maybe 2 fingers. decent lacing and retention.

a big yeasty bubblegum smell rules almost the whole aroma. slightly fruity, but definatly no pomegrante, or any presence of barrel aging.

follows the aroma, lots of bubblegummy yeast, phenolic, and lots of fruity esters. but again, doesnt appear to taste barrel aged or brewed with pomegrante.

medium to full in body, adequate carbonation.

overall, pretty disappointed.when i heard deschutes, a very well respected brewery in my eyes, was making a barrel aged quad with pomegrante, i was thinking delicious. but i was disappointed. the untrained eye could fool this for a really strong basic saison. i would avoid this.

dogfishandi, Oct 24, 2011
Photo of mwilbur
2.95/5  rDev -22.8%

Poured from 22 oz bottle stamped best by 08/04/12 into snifter.
A: Pours a golden amber with high carbonation producing a 1 inch white head that quickly recedes. Appears very light for style.
S: Fruit (pomegranate?), sweet caramel malt, and a whiff of whiskey. Fairly sweet and light.
T: Mild whiskey, banana, clove, sweet caramel malt, mixed fruit. Jumbled and too sweet...tried too hard on this one.
M: Medium body...lighter than one would expect given the ABV. Oily sweet.
D: Love the idea, the label, and the name...other than that not so good. Doesn't do the style justice.

mwilbur, Oct 24, 2011
Photo of russwbeck
2.68/5  rDev -29.8%

A: I had seen video of how clear this pour was, but it still surprised me. A quadruple that's clear yellow with hints of orange? Strange. Fluffy white head sticks around for a long while.

S: The aroma is that of a quad, surprisingly. Deep, dark fruits, booze, and instead of candied sugar, I get a lot of wheat. It's very much like a quad, but has some other parts I'm not familiar with.

T: The taste is sort of like a quad. Dark fruits, plums maybe some raisins, and just a TON of booze. Don't get me confused, I'm not talking about I can taste alcohol, I'm talking straight alcohol booze. The wheat/sugar flavor come up on the back end, which is warming due to the alcohol.

MF: Medium body, carbonated well. The aftertaste is full of booze that warms that body as you drink.

O: Really disappointed in this. I don't really understand where they went wrong, but it should be back to the drawing board for this one.

russwbeck, Oct 23, 2011
Photo of bravejoejoe
3.35/5  rDev -12.3%

A - a amber golden color not much of a head
S - not much of a smell here.
T- alcohol, pepper, fall spices, there is some sweetness there also but I think I woul expect that due to such a large grain bill
M - carbonation is very present.
Not to familiar with quads but it is decent, just not my favorite style of beer.

bravejoejoe, Oct 21, 2011
Photo of Fenris244
3.7/5  rDev -3.1%

Poured as usual into my duvel tulip

Pours a clear light orange with a 1 finger off white head, little retention but has some good retention. Carbonation is apparent within the beer via some thin strings, most of the big beers I've had lately have had almost none...

Spicy in the nose, some wood like char as well as some cinnamon and clove. Candy sugar and some dark fruits are also there.

A little plum, good amount of sweetness, like honey, hop bitterness is nice leaves a lingering grapefruit taste. Some grape like flavors are present as well, warms as it finishes due to the alcohol.

Medium to heavy in body, decently smooth, light in carbonation

Overall, It's good but I feel like something is missing, It's lacing something I cant quite put my finger on, I like it but I dont know why but I dont really want it...

Fenris244, Oct 21, 2011
Photo of Arbitrator
2/5  rDev -47.6%

Chilled bottle into a glass. Shared at a tasting.

A: Pours a clear, golden body that immediately raises my skepticism. Is this another Kaggen prank? It doesn't look like a quad AT ALL. It's not even the right color.

S: A mix of apples, pears, something fruity I can't place (reading the bottle suggests this is pomegranate), bubblegum. This is... disjointed. I get the feeling they were going for a Voltron theme here, but they seem to have achieved Voltron's inbred cousin.

T: Tart, dark fruit; bubblegum; some presence of apples, pears; bread; yeast; whiskey, and a touch of oak. WOW. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE? It's like they threw darts at the wall and generated a random beer with the result. Hilarious.

M: Thin-bodied, poorly integrated.

O: In a display of how disappointing this was, I didn't even commit my usual Dexter-like ritual of slicing the wax open and stealing it as a souvenir. A swing and a miss for Deschutes.

Arbitrator, Oct 20, 2011
Photo of jnezda
4.13/5  rDev +8.1%

Poured clear and light brown with an off white 2 finger head head into a 40cl goblet. Good lacing throughout to the end but poor head retention. Bottle indacated that it would be good for 15 months from purchase but date so this would have been a good beer to age. Aroma is very sweet with hints of dark fruit and sugar. Mouthfeel was a little thin for a quad but very pleasant with just a hint of hops and tons of full belgian malts. Good balance between sweet and malt with a dose of hops. Not as full bodied as many other quads but definitely worth the money. I will go back and get some to age.

jnezda, Oct 20, 2011
Photo of largadeer
2.1/5  rDev -45%

Beddachedda shared this one. Thanks, Evan.

Appearance: The Stoic pours a clear golden color, not exactly quad-like but attractive nonetheless. The head is tall and lasting.

Aroma: The nose is overwhelmingly sweet, showcasing bubblegum and raw sugar, some tart fruitiness from the pomegranate I suppose, but really just overwhelming sweetness and yeast. Clove, breadiness, a bit vinous - plenty of depth but none of it is appealing.

Palate: Sweet, vinous, fruity. Cloying but also slightly tart. Dark fruit and red wine, clove, bready malt. Becomes more tannic and dry in the finish. Pretty mediocre and not particularly drinkable, I dumped my glass after a few ounces. Deschutes isn't doing so well with these reserve series beers this year.

largadeer, Oct 19, 2011
Photo of FosterJM
4.1/5  rDev +7.3%

875th Review on BA
Bottle to Goblet
22oz

2011

Best by: 8/4/12
Purchased from El Cerrito Liquor

App- A medium clear orange with a tinge of pink/yellow in it. Small 1/2 finger very fast receding and loud head. A touch of cling towards the bottom of the glass.

Smell- Retains a lot of things on the nose. You get a bit of the pomegranate fruit first. Secondly comes the wine line astringent notes with the tannins. The barrels of the whisky and barrel come lastly. A bit think but hides the 11% very well.

Taste- I will admit I was a bit nervous about this one from reviews. I have become a big fan of rye in my beers and the mix of the fruit and whispy booze works well. The mix of oak barrel and the rye is a pleasant mix. It's a bit thin but well layered across the flavor mix. The pomegranate adds a bit of juice and the wine barrel adds a bit of tannin. The rye whiskey adds a bit of spice on the end.

Mouth- A lighter medium bodied beer with a light medium carbonation. Juicy, rye, spicy and a bit stringy.

Drink- This again was a bit scary for me. Although besides the small head and lack of deep color of normal quad colors and some small aromatics. Everthing worked well for me. Big, layered and a tad sweet from the quad flavors.

FosterJM, Oct 19, 2011
Photo of bs870621345
4.15/5  rDev +8.6%

This is by no means a bad beer, however I will attempt to rate to style...

Pours an amber orange color with a nice amount of head, but no lacing...it's not a bad color, but not a quad color.

Smells of grapes, apples, pears, alcohol, whiskey, chardonnay...no real pomegranate smell.

Taste opens up with the apples and pears moving into an alcohol, chardonnay flavor. Finishes dry with a lingering fruit like finish. I detect no pomegranate, but I'm really enjoying this beer.

Mouthfeel is moderate with nice carbonation...nothing wrong with it at all.

Overall, it's pretty good, definitely not a flop from deschates at all.

bs870621345, Oct 16, 2011
Photo of jera1350
3.73/5  rDev -2.4%

Pours an orange hues gold with a ring of foam around the glass. A touch of lacing.

A bit light smelling. Belgian yeast, pale malt and solid sweetness with floral and spice notes.

Sweet with lighter malts, fruity notes with some sourness and a touch of whiskey. Not as big of flavor as I would expect from a beer with this type of brewing/aging process.

Thin for the style, very dry.

A decent beer, but doesn't completely fit the style. The barrel aging is hardly noticeable and the price is not warranted for this beer. It is enjoyable, but doesn't live up to the hype.

jera1350, Oct 15, 2011
Photo of robbrandes
3.73/5  rDev -2.4%

22oz poured into a tulip.

slightly hazy, tangerine~amber in color. head is slight, recedes to almost zero.

rather faint nose, but interesting from what i can pick-up - fruity, bits of the belgian yeast, the tartness actually comes through - almost smells like a white wine.

taste - extremely tart, almost citrusy, i wouldn't have guessed pomegranite, but that's certainly the culprit. there's enough malt here to pull it back from the edge. nice bready-yeasty middle and a crazy-dry finish the alcohol is very subtle. typically excellent deschutes mouthfeel body.

not a stellar beer, but glad i tried. could be interesting to lay down for a year or two.

robbrandes, Oct 15, 2011
Photo of litheum94
3.43/5  rDev -10.2%

22 oz bottle. Best by 8/4/12. Reviewed 10/5/11.

Amber body with a compact, faintly brown head. Lots of tiny bubbles that slowly fizz away. Leaves some minor lacing on the glass.

Aromas of oak, pomegranates, Belgian candi and yeast, spicy alcohol and other fruit sweetness. Honey and vanilla, maybe some banana.

Earthy and malty at first, gives way to semi-sweet fruit flavors, pomegranate and berries. A slightly sour oak barrel funk with a good bite of alcohol. Very warming to the mouth. The alcohol mellows a touch as the beer warms. High carbonation.

A decent take on the style. Didn't blow me away, but enjoyable all the same.

litheum94, Oct 14, 2011
Photo of fatmcb1
3.58/5  rDev -6.3%

Pours a clear, yellow and orangish color with a ring of white head.

Smells is fruity esters with some malt and yeast also. I can pick up the pomegranate, but no whiskey.

It is mainly tart flavor with a lot of fruit. It is balanced by caramel and malt. Again, I taste no whiskey flavor.

It is medium bodied with a decent amount of carbonation.

Overall, I felt this kind of missed the mark for a Quad, and would better be represent by the Tripel style. The percentage that was aged in bourbon barrels did not give off the faintest scent or taste of bourbon. A rare miss for Deschutes.

fatmcb1, Oct 14, 2011
Photo of Halcyondays
3.35/5  rDev -12.3%

On-tap at Beachwood II, finally this gets to the Southland,

A: Pours a clear medium amber with a spotty soft white head. Bubbly.

S: Real nice notes of vanilla/barrel and caramel here.

T: Definitely sweet. Lots of date, sugar cane and some brown sugar. Pomegranate is minor, there is a light berry fruit character. Too underattenuated for my tastes, a problem I find in a lot of American quads.

M: Full-bodied, cloying at times, biting carbonation occasionally.

O: Glad to try it, but I'm not going to pop the money for this again. Might be good with some age.

Halcyondays, Oct 14, 2011
Photo of womencantsail
3/5  rDev -21.5%

On-tap at Beachwood Brewing

A: The pour is a clear amber color with a finger of off-white head.

S: An almost nail polish remover/acetone aroma. Strong acidic fruit character in there, too. A little bit of toffee/bread/caramel sweetness in there somewhere. There is a little bit of raisin and plum, too.

T: More typical Quad character on the aroma. There is a strong fruit note to it, though. Lots of plum, raisin, and perhaps some cherry. Maybe a touch of cough medicine. There is a strong toffee and toasted bread malt flavor.

M: Medium bodied with medium carbonation.

O: A real miss from Deschutes. A rare one as well. Very disappointing.

womencantsail, Oct 13, 2011
Photo of Haybeerman
3.68/5  rDev -3.7%

A: Orange/amber color; clear with some sediment. Poured a wispy off-white head. Laced in thin rings with faint legs.

S: Dark fruit, candi sugar and bananas. Light soft spices and grassy hops. Faint aroma of wet wood and smoke add to the cornucopia. An alcohol sting.

T: A little bit of everything. Add sweet bread and tart yeast to the fray as well as few light-colored fruits (oranges and pomegranate?). Wet wood, smoke and a bourbon barrel character couple with the alcohol to finish quite dry. Very complex; almost confusing.

M: Medium to full body. Moderate carbonation. Sweet then dry. Warming.

O: There's almost too much going on in this beer. Nothing wrong. May be interesting to cellar for a bit and see what happens.

Haybeerman, Oct 12, 2011
Photo of HopHead84
3.68/5  rDev -3.7%

10/10/11

On tap at URGE.

A: Pellucid gold in color with a fleeting white head.

S: Perfumy floral notes meld with dark cherry, plum, fig, raisin, and powerful grape notes. There's some caramel and bread, as well as a pervasive spiciness and candi sugar sweetness. I get a little oak, but I'm not getting anything from the whiskey barrels.

T: Very sweet, with notes of plum, fig, raisin, grape, and date. There's a little oak and a not insubstantial pepper-like spiciness. I get a little cherry as well. Very malty and sweet with bread and candi sugar.

M: Upper medium body with lower moderate carbonation. The mouthfeel is sticky with much warming.

Overall: A solid beer, but 4 ounces was sufficient.

HopHead84, Oct 11, 2011
Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.93/5  rDev +2.9%

Best by 8/4/12.

Pours a clear golden color with a 1 inch puffy white head that settles to a thin cap. Thin broken rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark fruits, banana, caramel, and malt. Taste is of dark fruits and banana, malt, some caramel, yeast, alcohol, and a tart flavor. I am not really getting any pomegranate or barrel aged flavors in the smell or taste. This beer has a higher level of carbonation with a crisp and prickly mouthfeel. There is an alcohol burn in the back of the throat with each sip. Overall, this is a good beer from Deschutes but not as good as I was expecting based on their other barrel aged offerings.

UCLABrewN84, Oct 11, 2011
Photo of TheBeerCarl
4.2/5  rDev +9.9%

Appearance: beautiful deep clear golden color with a nice amount of white head. For this style the color and head were perfect.

Smell: A nice tart citrus noise with banana esters and caramel maltiness. There is a light note of bourbon to this beer at the very end.

Taste: Pear, Apple and banana fill your mouth beautifully while finishing with subtle hints of smooth caramel.

Mouthfeel: Nice smooth mouthfeel with some light carbonation and a little burn from the heat on the finish.

Overall this beer was a nice Belgium style quad with true wild yeast characters.

TheBeerCarl, Oct 10, 2011
Photo of mrasskicktastic
4.58/5  rDev +19.9%

A - Golden copper brew with a viscous body, high carbonation and a lot of foamy head. Thick bands of lacing down the sides of the glass.

S - Grassy hops, citrus pith, pineapple, caramel malt and apricot.

T - Apricot, pineapple, honey, pine, grapefruit pith, lemon pith. Aftertaste of light bitter caramel malt and grapefruit pith.

M - Smooth, thick, creamy, refreshing. Top notch.

D - Fantastic. Deschutes does it again. This brewery always delivers. It's hard to drink too much of it, but it is great. 12 oz bottles of this would be amazing.

mrasskicktastic, Oct 09, 2011
Photo of Bobheed
4.25/5  rDev +11.3%

A: Amber with a pure white head.Quite a bit of lacing

S: Really interesting. Smells a bit like a wild ale, lots of sourness in there, but also some sweet caramel and vanilla notes.

T: Lots of tangy fruitiness and spice. Also getting a pretty dry kick of alcohol on the finish of it. Left with kind of a smokey aftertaste. One of the most complex and interesting flavors I've had. It would be easier for me to list what I don't taste in the beer.

M: Very dry with quite a bit of carbonation, similar to a champagne sip.

Overall this was really good. Not at all anything like what I would normally think of as a quad, but really, really solid.

Bobheed, Oct 03, 2011
Photo of brotherloco
3.95/5  rDev +3.4%

22oz bomber. Best By 08/04/12. Served in a tulip.

Pours a mostly clear orangish-gold. A finger of beige foam settles to a ring. Some large chunks of lacing stick to the glass.

Aroma is Belgian in character. Sweet candi sugar on top of equally sweet malt. Hints of red wine. I think I get a touch of oak, but it's hard to tell.

Initial flavor is a sweet and sour affair. Similar sweetness to the nose (candi sugar, malt, wine grapes), but a surprising sour fruitiness, most likely from the Pomegranate. Much like the nose, I can't detect much barrel presence, but there is a tinge of a whiskey note in the finish. Alcohol is amazingly well hidden for 11%.

Body and carbonation both hit about medium-full, although carbonation could be little higher. Gets a touch sticky.

A unique beer from Deschutes. This is the first Belgian-style I've had from them, and I like their approach to blending. In the no-points category: Beautiful label!

brotherloco, Oct 02, 2011
Photo of morimech
3.53/5  rDev -7.6%

Brass colored with one finger of head that slowly settled to a thin cap. Moderate amount of spotty lacing is left on the glass.

Aroma is fruity with vinous qualities. I also pick up some banana. Strong yeast aromas. There is some pomegranate in there as well. Alcohol is well hidden.

Interesting flavor. Has a tart fruit flavor upfront and evolves to a dry, yeasty finish. Pomegranate can be tasted but does not play a large part in the flavor besides the tartness. More warmth than flavor from the alcohol. I am not tasting any barrel aging going on. Some nice whiskey qualities would of melded well with what is already going on, but I totally miss it here.

Medium body with carbonation that quickly diminished. Felt a little lifeless in the second half of the glass.

Not a completely successful beer. Has some really good things going on but failed to excite me overall. Maybe Deschutes should take some pointers from their buddies at Boulevard on how to barrel-age Belgian styles.

morimech, Oct 01, 2011
Photo of srandycarter
4.53/5  rDev +18.6%

A - Pours apricot, cloudy. Nice off white head leaves to disk fast. Moderate cling lace.

S - Very fruity. Tropical fruity and Belgian funk.

T - Best part. LOVE this. Juicy fruit, candy, Belgian estery yeast and a little bitter at end. I don't give out fives often, but I can't see how this taste could be better. Alcohol pretty well hidden.

M - Medium body, good carb and excellent balance.

D - Despite the ABV, would not tire quickly.

srandycarter, Oct 01, 2011
The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 571 ratings.