The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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Ratings: 614
Reviews: 233
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 14.62%
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.
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Photo of videofrog
3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured a 22oz bomber into a Chimay goblet, careful not to disturb yeast sediment on first pour. Best by 08/04/12.

A: Darker orange, coppery color, more translucent than most quads. Thin white head dissipates quickly.

S: Sweet malts up front. Pomegranate more pronounced as the drink warms. Spicy notes with oak in the background.

T: Sweet and bready malts up front. Faint hop bitterness in the middle. Finish is dry and woody/oak. Spicy alcohol and pomegranate sweetness are also there.

O: Enjoyed this more when stirring up the yeast sediment for the second pour; it added a good funk/slight sour and more spiciness. Glad I let this sit outside of the fridge a while as it gets better as it warms.

Photo of billab914
3.47/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle poured into my CBS snifter. It poured orange amber in color with just a trace amount of white lacing clinging to the edges of the glass.

The aroma is very floral, fruity and spicy with the Belgian yeast spices playing a big role in the flavors. The fruity, sweet, almost honey like pomegranate juice mixes with a little of the wine barrel character. The fruity, sweetness is a little too overpowering though unfortunately, and I don't get any of the rye whiskey barrel.

The taste is also dominated by the sweet, fruity, juiciness and the Belgian yeast spice. Again, I get some hints of the wine barrel, but none of the whiskey. The finish is dry with the spices and a little more of the wine barrel to it.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with carbonation being moderate. Overall it was a decent and interesting beer, but not one that really stands out. The sweet, sugary, fruitiness and spice dominated a little too much and seemed to overshadow some of the flavors I was looking forward to unfortunately.

Photo of andrenaline
4.27/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

From notes... Another gem that was a part of a recent trade from joemcgrath27.

A - Pours a slightly hazy copper brown colour, finger of head with some retention and no real lacing.

S - Cloves and bananas, juicy fruit gum, bubble gum and some yeast phenols.

T - Nice balance between sugary fruit sweetness and a sour bitterness. Bananas and cloves dominate alongside a hint of abv heat, the juicy fruit gum comes through and a hint of wooden oak and peat on the finish.

M - Medium bodied, but can come across as heavily carbonated, smooth going down adn a hint of dryness on the finish.

O - Complex and flavourful, incredibly (and dangerously) drinkable at 11%, and all around world class. Certainly a fruitier take on the style, so if you're not into the sweetness you might not find it as enjoyable. I on the other hand wish all quad's had this sweetness to them. Delicious!

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

the stoic is one heck of an interesting beer. pours murky light amber color with a slight pink tint and an effervescent white head. looks much lighter than most quads ive had, coming in almost honey colored rather than that deep caramel color im accustomed to in these. it smells tart and sour, yeasty, and lots of fresh fruit. the flavor is much more tempered by the wood aging, and the rye flavors come through very nicely and compliment the tartness of the pomegranates. never really tasted anything quite like this, its oaky, almost sour, and even flowery in the yeast. feel is very excited carbonation and a lighter to medium body. alcohol flavor and feel is entirely absent. amazing. this would be quite drinkable except for the abv strength. overall another exceptional beer from deschutes. theyve got to be one of the finest operations in the country.

Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.5/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz wax-dipped bottle poured into a snifter.
Best By 08/04/12, 11% ABV

Thanks to Wisrarebeer for this bottle!

A - Bright maple golden in color, The Stoic is a light-colored quad with just slight cloudiness hazing it. The densely-packed ivory head dots the snifter in lace as it settles slowly.

S - Abundantly spicy, The Stoic showcases Belgian yeast doin' it's thing; earthy clay, cardamom, coriander seed, and trances of banana Runt fruitiness. The complexity goes much deeper, however; fruity alcohol including raisin and light cherry, oak-infused white grapes, and a very faint vinegar-like wine aspect. Sharp rye whiskey is noticeable through the finish but almost as an afterthought in how complex the beer smells.

T - Yeast takes center stage again, pushing past all the other goings-on to provide light banana and spicy earth notes. Pomegranate is much more noticeable and serves the beer well with it's underlying wine characteristics. Sweet white grape and warm, boozy alcohol immediately follow and segue into the caramel-malty finish.

M - Warming phenol alcohol is strong in this one! Subtle-yet-gripping, it faintly things out the round, full-bodied mouthfeel that finishes with a tickle of higher carbonation. Lip-smacking dryness is welcome as it begs for another sip, quietly, without being bothersome.

O - Similar to a lightly spiced holiday dessert wine, The Stoic exudes significant complexity. Within it's extensive production process, this classic style undergoes a wonderful transformation into an elegant sipping beer with a broad depth of unique flavors to satisfy even the most discerning palate.

Photo of quirkzoo
3.62/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I have had this beer before but it still surprised me how light it pours, gold, with just a touch of orange and a very small white head that recedes quickly. The aroma is very sweet, lots of complex fruity belgian yeast esters, lots of berries, overripe strawberries, blueberries, slightly acidic smelling but not in a sour way. Some definite light caramel maltiness in the background and a touch of oaky tannins. The taste is nice, similar to the aroma but slightly more muted, not as bright. Very light bitterness, just enough to balance the high notes of the flavor. The mouthfeel is nice, very smooth, especially for 11%. Overall a friend shared a bottle of this a while back and I decided to pick up a bottle for myself, not quite as good as the top level Belgian quads but a very decent American attempt at the style.

Photo of Tilley4
3.12/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Been loving some Belgians lately and I cracked this one open on a particularly muggy April evening...

Sweet boozy aromas are almost overwhelming right up front. The pomengranates are definitely prevalent as is the barrel aging as there is quite a bit of vinous quality to this. I'm getting some of the bourbon barrel as well but I'm not digging it like I do in Boulevard's version. Aromas all over the place...

Sweet and boozy... Vinous and raw... More bourbon burn than I was expecting and not as much flavor as I was hoping... A rare miss from this brewery for me... I like Deschutes a lot and everything I've ever had from them has been amazing but this doesn't do it for me. I finished but... it was work.

Photo of DavidST
3.33/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22oz bottle into a goblet, best by 8/04/12. This pours a slightly hazy golden color with a short lived white head. The smells are of belgian yeast esters, banana, brown sugar, other malts. The feel is medium a little tingly. The taste is disappointing, a little yeast, some sugar, some bitterness.

Photo of txbrewer
3.94/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Apple juice with an off white head. No sediment in the bottle and it was quite clear in the glass.

S - Malty sweet, easy on the hops and bitterness.

T - Malty,raisins??, mild hop and an almost fruity note. Even though the bottle says 11 % ABV, it does not come through in the taste.

M - Light carbonation lets the malty sweetness linger with a very mild hop finish.

D - Yes, quite so. They should make plenty more of this.

A third of this was barrel aged (half wine and half rye) and I am guessing that is where the fruity and raisin taste is coming from. Quite nice for the malt and hop balance in this one. Picked this up at Whole Foods so I may have to go back and grab a couple more bottles.

UPDATE- Read some other reviews and something is off. Seems that some people got the cloudy with and without the yeast - mine was clear with nothing remaining in the bottle at all???

Photo of claspada
2.78/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Pours a semi-clear peach/amber color with a small white head that is not typical for most Belgian ales; mild spotty lacing and a decent amount of chunky yeast which must have been aroused trying to get the wax off the bottle.

Aromas begin with all Belgian yeast phenols; bubblegum and banana are huge here. There are other light fruity esters in the background but I wouldn't be able to discern pomegranate if I didn't know from the bottle/research.

The taste begins super, super phenolic and estery as well. It features apple, pear and white wine grapes establishing dominance; it is followed by spicy yeast and more lighter vinous elements; slight oaky dryness, in the finish.

The mouthfeel is medium-bodied with moderate carbonation and some warmth in the gullet. Finish is dry but not as dry as I would like and/or expect from a Belgian ale, which are usually dry, and one aged on oak should also be extra dry.

Overall, this is a decent Belgian Golden Strong but definitely not a quad to my palate. There is a lot that went into this beer but the sum is less than the parts. Too estery and phenolic with not enough pomegranate or rye barrel; probably could have used more time in the barrel and/or more fruit additions. I will have trouble finishing the second glass because this is just not flavorful/enjoyable for my tastes.

Photo of kojevergas
4.06/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on-draught into a 25 cl Leffe goblet at The Daily Pint in Santa Monica, California. Reviewed from notes. I'd had this before from the bottle and knew it was good already.

A: Pours a 1.5 finger head of nice cream, great thickness, and good retention for the style. Colour is a semitransparent copper. No yeast particles are visible.

Sm: Bretts, clean fresh malts, some funkiness, and bright esters. A moderate strength aroma. Very pleasant. Fresh and clean.

T: The malts are layered and brilliant. Very fresh with wonderful orange citrus esters. Complex and subtle, but I preferred it out of the bottle when it was yeasty and more complex. A touch cidery. A bit appley. Very well balanced and built.

Mf: Smooth, crisp, and wet. Not too thick/thin. Smack-your-lips lovely. Delicately light on the palate. Quite pleasant.

Dr: Incredibly drinkable. This was better out of the bottle with the yeast. I'd have it again, preferably bottle-aged. A lovely quad from Deschutes. Hides its ABV insanely well. Give her a go, lads.

B+

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Review saved from the duplicate serving type review purge and copied below. This was my original review of the beer from the bottle on 12/11/2011. I've averaged the two reviews to yield the score I gave it.

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with waxed-over pressure cap served into a N'ice Chouffe stemgoblet in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are extremely high; I love deschutes and quads. This is a dream come true. Let's see if it stacks up.

A: Pours a half finger head of slight cream, pretty thin, and of okay retention when you factor in the high ABV. Colour is a nontransparent textbook copper. Appealing.

Sm: Wonderful. Impressive yeasty aroma with strong notes of candied sugar, pomegranate fruit tones, light oak, and whiskey. Really a lovely balanced aroma. Quite pleasant and inviting. Some sourness/bacteria is also of note, and maybe some light hints of white wine. It certainly smells complex. I hope it tastes as good as it smells. A moderate strength aroma.

T: Fruity tones - pomegranate, maybe light green apple, lovely tinges of sourness, full expressive yeast, a light oak tone, and a full malt foundation. The malt is wonderfully subtle, sort of the polar opposite of how it's used in crappy Spanish macro lagers (see San Miguel). The candied sugar is lovely and gives it a tingly sensation. Very complex yet wonderfully balanced, with a rare subtlety of flavour. Extremely well built. No note really dominates; they all layer and congeal to comprise an all around wonderful taste. No alcohol is detectable.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with just enough thickness to support the complex flavours and ABV without being overbearing. The tingly sensation produced by the candied sugar lends it the needed coarseness to coax out the flavours without lessening drinkability. Bravo.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the ABV, and very drinkable in general. I wouldn't call this a sipper like many Russian Imperial Stouts; it certainly isn't sessionable but it's of fantastic quality, quite enjoyable to drink, and allows swigs rather than sips. If I had to murder my grandmother to try this on-tap, I'd have to pause to think about it - and then I'd remember that bottle conditioning suits quads better - and I'd stop myself. Another home-run from Deschutes. It's a shame it isn't more widely available. I imagine it ages wonderfully. It would pair well with food that doesn't have too strong a flavour or temperature - perhaps a sandwich or salad. I'd like to see Deschutes brew a quad more akin to Westvleteren 12, using those wonderful dark fruit notes. A comparative analysis between the two is by no means fair, but nevertheless I'd like to see Deschutes attempt something similar. I think that's testament to the quality of their brews. I look forward to trying more beers from Deschutes; they seem to consistently satisfy me.

4.2

Photo of Mebuzzard
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

At 11% abv, this is a nice drinking beer.
It looks pretty dog-gone good with a bright golden pour, and nice dense foamy head.

hints of apple, pear, caramel and pecan dance around the nose.

Flavors are those above plus some faint citrus and vanilla. Somewhat sweet in the middle but it dries out fairly well. Not sure about the Quad category, though. A bit light all around

Very nice beer and I drank it all in about 15 minutes. I was celebrating :)

Photo of gtermi
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: pours a nice orangish gold with a thin white head tht quickly fades.

S: There is a nice amount of "Quad" scents, but the pomegranate for sure sticks out on the nose. There is also a nice fruity smell that I seem to pick up the more I have my nose in the glass.

T: Again has a very nice quad flavor, but then it starts to really show the pomegranate flavors that dominate the flavor. It is very nice and different for a quad.

M: To me there is a little bit too much carbonation in this beer. It is very crisp and burns a little going down. With a high alcohol beer like this, I like it to be more of a smooth carbonation.

O: For 14 dollars I much would have rather bought a St. Bernardus 12, but its hard to compare to that. This is a very good beer from a great brewery. This isnt your typical quad and I respect Deschutes for stepping out of line with that.

Photo of jar2574
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Debatable whether the black wax top adds to the experience or merely annoys the drinker by forcing them to work harder to get to their beer. The beer was poured into a Chimay goblet so the head was thinner than if it'd been put into a pint glass. The beer is a cloudy dark orange color.

The smell is citrus hops, Belgian yeasts, very nice.

The mouthfeel is pretty thick with a slight alcohol burn on the tongue and not that much carbonation.

The taste is slightly acidic and very complex. Different fruit flavors - grapefruit, pomgranete and cherries. Oakiness from the aging process, I guess. And a little bit of sourness and funkiness, maybe from the yeasts.

This warmed up quite a bit as I drank the bottle and it was as good at room temperature as chilled.

Photo of siradmiralnelson
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 22oz wax dipped bottle into chalice.

A. Poured a half finger of head that disappeared very quickly. Very little retention. A little bit of lacing. Color is surprisingly a pretty vibrant orange color. Strange color for a quad.

S. Some dark fruit, a little bit of pear, some clove, and a little banana. Get a lot of different belgian aromas, not all quad smells though. Some candi sugar. Raisins, and pear are predominant. Has a little bit of bitterness. Smells a little bit more like a BSPA than a quad. A little bit of alcohol aroma, but not much.

T. Pear, light fruit, alcohol, clove, caramel, lots of flavors going on. Doesent really taste like a quad. Really a cross between a Belgian Strong Pale Ale and a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. When you get past the fact it doesn't taste like a quad, you can focus on all the flavors going on. Pretty sweet. Not much trace of alcohol. Actually drinks pretty easy.

M. Medium/full bodied. Low carbonation. Finishes sweet.

O. Overall this beer definitely misses the mark as a Quad. All in all though it is still a pretty tasty Belgian beer. Has a lot of the flavor components of a BSPA.

Photo of joemcgrath27
4.07/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - hazy copper orange, thumb of head dissipated to a thin covering, lots of suspended floaties
S - fruity aromas of banana and tropicals, mild spice notes with some graininess
T - big tart tangy fruit flavours up front, a tropical fruitiness brings out the pomegranate infusion, mild touch of rye and woodiness from the barrel again, very unique
M - medium body with a slight creaminess, gives way to a tartness leaving a puckering feel, with the big ABV very well hidden
O - a very unique quad in terms of flavour mixing, the addition of fruits and different barrel aging is a nice touch, a must try

Photo of DocJitsu
4.12/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy golden copper with a white head that attenuates quickly. This is not my style, but I was pleasantly surprised. The bouquet is characterized by raisin, green banana, and Fruity Pebbles. Flavors of sweet green banana and raisin that finishes with tart grape. This beer drinks like a Belgian without that usual undesirable yeast finish.

Photo of Duke
3.56/5  rDev -7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

(From a tulip glass)

Appearance: The Stoic is almost clear, a dull amber in colour, with a tiny head that dissipated quickly, leaving no lacing. Lots of sediment.

Smell: Surprisingly bold, given the appearance. Pomegranate dominates my nose, with vanilla as a sidekick. It's sweet and floral. Banana become progressively more apparent. I don't smell any alcohol at all.

Taste: Very sweet. Quite malty. The flavours aren't as distinct as the scents, but I can taste the pomegranate, and perhaps some of that banana. One would never guess that this is 11% ABV. Never.

Mouthfeel: Gassy. Fizzy. It reminds me of Strongbow. The body is on the full side but the raw fizz is too much for my taste. There's a bit of a foamy finish too, and that's putting me off.

Overall: My nose liked this much more than my mouth did. I'm a big fan of the big quadrupels, so perhaps I might have been thinking too much of the great Trappistes. This is by no means a traditional quadrupel at all - it tastes more like a tripel with its spice and floral nature - but the beer just felt unbalanced and overly sweet, despite good promises from the nose.

There is a pleasant warmth that kicks in after a while, and that's very welcome indeed.

Photo of zeff80
3.85/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a clear, golden-orange color with a one-finger, white head of bubbly foam. It some sudsy rings of lace on the glass.

S - It smelled of pomegranate and other fruits. Some wood-like aromas and caramel.

T - Nice pomegranate flavor with some yeasty/spiciness. Good caramel sweetness with a touch of oak to add some needed bitterness.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a dry finish.

O - By no means is this a traditional Quadrupel, but it still a tasty beer and worth a try.

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a medium orange amber with a fine two finger white head with great retention. Aromatic aroma of Belgian spices, a bit of light fruit and light malt. Taste is light fruit, a hint of banana and cherry, pomegranite. Light bodied. A suggestion of the wine barrel aging, not very much oak presence. This seems less like a quadrupel and more like a Belgian strong pale ale. Nice looking and pleasant to drink, but maybe not quite for the premium series price. I am going to age one of these to see how time treats it. I has good potential.

Photo of williamjbauer
3.92/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottled in fancy wax covered bottle served in pint glass

A - Opaque dull amber with 1.5 finger khaki head with minimal retention and good lacing

S - Banana esters and sweet malt, clove

T - Woo this is a spicy, tangy lady. Most of the action in the side palate with tobacco and clove coming first to mind then sweet caramel banana malty esters to follow. End is sweet as an apricot. Booze never really pokes out to say hello. I'm not refined enough to taste the pomegranate, but do taste citrus, more orange than pomegranate. A bit of rye at the finish and some oak wine notes, the barrels really add a lot. Pretty sour.

M - Medium body, moderate carbonation.

O - Really unique spicy quad, quite enjoyable. Spicy and fruity.

Photo of GreenCard
3.1/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: copper-brown, thin layer of fine-beaded foam that slowly collapses

Aroma: fairly ethereal but there are hints of vanilla, yogurt, tobacco, and white wine

Flavor: syrupy sweetness with a subtle fruity tartness bordering on a yogurt (again) quality; hints of cherries (or pomegranate, I guess) and raisins; the 11% abv is really the only thing providing any balance to the maltiness; finishes sweet with lingering malt and spice

Mouthfeel: full body, pert carbonation, alcohol warmth

Other comments: I'm going to have to stoically say, "Meh."

Photo of Scotchboy
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had on-tap @ Bittercreek Alehouse, Boise ID. Served in a snifter.

A: Gold, clear body as it warms, decent off-white head and lace.

S: Sweet bread, sweeter malt bill, banana, clove, spices, distant pomegranate, light rye whiskey notes.

T: Follows the nose, lots of bready notes, caramel, spicy, fruit notes, pomegranate, faint whisky presence.

MF: Spicy medium-dry mouthfeel.

O: Really reminds me of a Tripel or a Belgian Strong Pale. Decent, but nothing more.

Photo of cooler4life
3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a fluffy off-white one finger head that settled fairly quickly. Head settled to a think cap with a dumpling of foam in the middle. Color is a deep hued blood orange. Some yeasty particulate can be seen swirling about. Lacing is small to moderate with no retention.

S: Belgian fruity yeast, banana, allspice. Toward the end I detect the ABV coming through like a freight train.

T: Like a multifaceted gemstone, layers of flavor. Light fruit, apricot, caramel, spices, yeast are prominent. It's really amazing how smooth it finishes as it leaves the palate.

M: Nearly perfect. The stickiness and balance of carbonation are refreshing.

O: A Quad for those with their training wheels on. Light and fruity, it’s a strong offering from Deschutes.

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.38/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer pours into my Lost Abbey Teku glass with a light amber color that shows a brilliantly clear, pale-amber / gold hue when held up to the light. The beer is topped by a frothy, three-finger thick, light tan colored head. The aroma smells of golden raisins, clove, woody pepper, biscuit like grain, toasted oak notes and some spicy oak character that seems fresh cut, but not quite green. The toasted oak aromatics mixes well with the toasted, pale grain notes. There is a touch of tartness to the nose that couples with the general fruitiness, a cotton candy like note, a hint of cantaloupe melon notes and just a general, pretty expressive fruitiness in the nose. There is a fair amount of complexity in the nose of this beer, but it is not quite as well integrated as it could be; it is not bad, but at times the hot alcohol, phenolics, hints of acetone, sharper fruit notes, and spicy oak clash with each other.

The beer is sweet with a general fruitiness that leans towards plums, pears and apples up front, but this fruitiness leans towards the anticipated pomegranate towards the middle. The finish has some phenolic clove notes, a touch of spicy oak character, perhaps a touch of green woodiness and an astringent woodiness. The flavor is perhaps not quite as fruit focused as the aroma, but it is close to the dominant note in the flavor. The oak character is actually quite soft here; it is noticeable, but mostly stays in the background. The malt character is actually quite a bit more muted than I was expecting; there is a touch of cracker like maltiness and a touch of dried hay like grain. The body of this beer is quite light considering the strength, though this is definitely a sipping beer. As the beer warms up a bit more hot alcohol begins to come out, and the oak gets a bit more toasted and perhaps a bit more spicy as well.

I actually think that a more palate coating maltiness would really help this beer immensely, there are a few too many sharp edges to this beer right now. I am sure some age will also smooth this out a bit too, so if you only have one bottle, definitely hold on to it for at least a year or two.

The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 614 ratings.