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The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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86
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583 Ratings
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Ratings: 583
Reviews: 225
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 14.66%
Wants: 66
Gots: 182 | FT: 7
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Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.
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Photo of fatmcb1
3.58/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, yellow and orangish color with a ring of white head.

Smells is fruity esters with some malt and yeast also. I can pick up the pomegranate, but no whiskey.

It is mainly tart flavor with a lot of fruit. It is balanced by caramel and malt. Again, I taste no whiskey flavor.

It is medium bodied with a decent amount of carbonation.

Overall, I felt this kind of missed the mark for a Quad, and would better be represent by the Tripel style. The percentage that was aged in bourbon barrels did not give off the faintest scent or taste of bourbon. A rare miss for Deschutes.

Photo of Halcyondays
3.42/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

On-tap at Beachwood II, finally this gets to the Southland,

A: Pours a clear medium amber with a spotty soft white head. Bubbly.

S: Real nice notes of vanilla/barrel and caramel here.

T: Definitely sweet. Lots of date, sugar cane and some brown sugar. Pomegranate is minor, there is a light berry fruit character. Too underattenuated for my tastes, a problem I find in a lot of American quads.

M: Full-bodied, cloying at times, biting carbonation occasionally.

O: Glad to try it, but I'm not going to pop the money for this again. Might be good with some age.

Photo of womencantsail
3.01/5  rDev -21.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at Beachwood Brewing

A: The pour is a clear amber color with a finger of off-white head.

S: An almost nail polish remover/acetone aroma. Strong acidic fruit character in there, too. A little bit of toffee/bread/caramel sweetness in there somewhere. There is a little bit of raisin and plum, too.

T: More typical Quad character on the aroma. There is a strong fruit note to it, though. Lots of plum, raisin, and perhaps some cherry. Maybe a touch of cough medicine. There is a strong toffee and toasted bread malt flavor.

M: Medium bodied with medium carbonation.

O: A real miss from Deschutes. A rare one as well. Very disappointing.

Photo of Haybeerman
3.71/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Orange/amber color; clear with some sediment. Poured a wispy off-white head. Laced in thin rings with faint legs.

S: Dark fruit, candi sugar and bananas. Light soft spices and grassy hops. Faint aroma of wet wood and smoke add to the cornucopia. An alcohol sting.

T: A little bit of everything. Add sweet bread and tart yeast to the fray as well as few light-colored fruits (oranges and pomegranate?). Wet wood, smoke and a bourbon barrel character couple with the alcohol to finish quite dry. Very complex; almost confusing.

M: Medium to full body. Moderate carbonation. Sweet then dry. Warming.

O: There's almost too much going on in this beer. Nothing wrong. May be interesting to cellar for a bit and see what happens.

Photo of HopHead84
3.7/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

10/10/11

On tap at URGE.

A: Pellucid gold in color with a fleeting white head.

S: Perfumy floral notes meld with dark cherry, plum, fig, raisin, and powerful grape notes. There's some caramel and bread, as well as a pervasive spiciness and candi sugar sweetness. I get a little oak, but I'm not getting anything from the whiskey barrels.

T: Very sweet, with notes of plum, fig, raisin, grape, and date. There's a little oak and a not insubstantial pepper-like spiciness. I get a little cherry as well. Very malty and sweet with bread and candi sugar.

M: Upper medium body with lower moderate carbonation. The mouthfeel is sticky with much warming.

Overall: A solid beer, but 4 ounces was sufficient.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.92/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Best by 8/4/12.

Pours a clear golden color with a 1 inch puffy white head that settles to a thin cap. Thin broken rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark fruits, banana, caramel, and malt. Taste is of dark fruits and banana, malt, some caramel, yeast, alcohol, and a tart flavor. I am not really getting any pomegranate or barrel aged flavors in the smell or taste. This beer has a higher level of carbonation with a crisp and prickly mouthfeel. There is an alcohol burn in the back of the throat with each sip. Overall, this is a good beer from Deschutes but not as good as I was expecting based on their other barrel aged offerings.

Photo of TheBeerCarl
4.23/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: beautiful deep clear golden color with a nice amount of white head. For this style the color and head were perfect.

Smell: A nice tart citrus noise with banana esters and caramel maltiness. There is a light note of bourbon to this beer at the very end.

Taste: Pear, Apple and banana fill your mouth beautifully while finishing with subtle hints of smooth caramel.

Mouthfeel: Nice smooth mouthfeel with some light carbonation and a little burn from the heat on the finish.

Overall this beer was a nice Belgium style quad with true wild yeast characters.

Photo of mrasskicktastic
4.58/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A - Golden copper brew with a viscous body, high carbonation and a lot of foamy head. Thick bands of lacing down the sides of the glass.

S - Grassy hops, citrus pith, pineapple, caramel malt and apricot.

T - Apricot, pineapple, honey, pine, grapefruit pith, lemon pith. Aftertaste of light bitter caramel malt and grapefruit pith.

M - Smooth, thick, creamy, refreshing. Top notch.

D - Fantastic. Deschutes does it again. This brewery always delivers. It's hard to drink too much of it, but it is great. 12 oz bottles of this would be amazing.

Photo of Bobheed
4.22/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Amber with a pure white head.Quite a bit of lacing

S: Really interesting. Smells a bit like a wild ale, lots of sourness in there, but also some sweet caramel and vanilla notes.

T: Lots of tangy fruitiness and spice. Also getting a pretty dry kick of alcohol on the finish of it. Left with kind of a smokey aftertaste. One of the most complex and interesting flavors I've had. It would be easier for me to list what I don't taste in the beer.

M: Very dry with quite a bit of carbonation, similar to a champagne sip.

Overall this was really good. Not at all anything like what I would normally think of as a quad, but really, really solid.

Photo of brotherloco
3.95/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bomber. Best By 08/04/12. Served in a tulip.

Pours a mostly clear orangish-gold. A finger of beige foam settles to a ring. Some large chunks of lacing stick to the glass.

Aroma is Belgian in character. Sweet candi sugar on top of equally sweet malt. Hints of red wine. I think I get a touch of oak, but it's hard to tell.

Initial flavor is a sweet and sour affair. Similar sweetness to the nose (candi sugar, malt, wine grapes), but a surprising sour fruitiness, most likely from the Pomegranate. Much like the nose, I can't detect much barrel presence, but there is a tinge of a whiskey note in the finish. Alcohol is amazingly well hidden for 11%.

Body and carbonation both hit about medium-full, although carbonation could be little higher. Gets a touch sticky.

A unique beer from Deschutes. This is the first Belgian-style I've had from them, and I like their approach to blending. In the no-points category: Beautiful label!

Photo of morimech
3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Brass colored with one finger of head that slowly settled to a thin cap. Moderate amount of spotty lacing is left on the glass.

Aroma is fruity with vinous qualities. I also pick up some banana. Strong yeast aromas. There is some pomegranate in there as well. Alcohol is well hidden.

Interesting flavor. Has a tart fruit flavor upfront and evolves to a dry, yeasty finish. Pomegranate can be tasted but does not play a large part in the flavor besides the tartness. More warmth than flavor from the alcohol. I am not tasting any barrel aging going on. Some nice whiskey qualities would of melded well with what is already going on, but I totally miss it here.

Medium body with carbonation that quickly diminished. Felt a little lifeless in the second half of the glass.

Not a completely successful beer. Has some really good things going on but failed to excite me overall. Maybe Deschutes should take some pointers from their buddies at Boulevard on how to barrel-age Belgian styles.

Photo of srandycarter
4.47/5  rDev +17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours apricot, cloudy. Nice off white head leaves to disk fast. Moderate cling lace.

S - Very fruity. Tropical fruity and Belgian funk.

T - Best part. LOVE this. Juicy fruit, candy, Belgian estery yeast and a little bitter at end. I don't give out fives often, but I can't see how this taste could be better. Alcohol pretty well hidden.

M - Medium body, good carb and excellent balance.

D - Despite the ABV, would not tire quickly.

Photo of snaotheus
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into two large snifters

Pours clear (no apparent sediment) yellow-orange with a fairly small beige head with very fine, slow carbonation. Smell is fruity and very funky, sweet.

Taste is sweet and fruity with a little spicy, maybe some clove, definitely some banana. Very strong.

Mouthfeel is a little heavy, but not sticky or oppressive. Overall, nice beer. Not a chugger. It's a sipper.

Photo of mudbug
4.32/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From the waxed bomber into a large wine glass results in a brilliant amber body capped by a thin head that dissipates pretty quickly, small bubbles continue up through the body for the entire glass.
Aroma is interesting and unique, I'm getting some clove, fresh bread, yeast (Belgian) astringency like fresh laid linoleum overall appealing.
Taste is, well, unexpected, unique, don't think I've ever had a beer quite like this, it's sweet, up front with a nice yeasty back, I guess it's the rye barrels that give it a kind of spicy twang, maybe it's the pomegranate, whatever, It's a unique brew that stands on it's own.
11% doesn't show itself at all, rather refreshing more than heavy.
Don't know what to call this beast except tasty, it will be interesting to update this one after a year or so in the cellar.

Photo of bsp77
3.98/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Snifter.

Appearance: Beautiful, rich orange with moderate white head and light lacing bubbles. Oh no, it isn't as dark as most "Quads". Give me a break.

Smell: Banana, clove, oak and some light spiciness. Fairly sweet aroma but some tart undertones.

Taste: Tastes about halfway between a Tripel and a Quad, but with some light wine-like and tart undertones. Banana, fleshy fruit and toast supply the somewhat sweet base, which is only halfway balanced by clove and light spicy notes. Slightly tart from the Pomegranate molasses, with a lingering Chardonnay-like oak finish.

Feel: Moderate carbonation with a sweet finish and just a hint of tartness. Hard to tell if the body is a little too light or a little too chewy. Quite warming.

Overall: Ugh, where to begin? Some of the negative reviews here are ridiculous. People are criticizing this for not being a true Quad, which isn't even a real style. Gulden Draak has great reviews despite having the temerity to call themselves a "Dark Tripel", and that is an established style, by freaking monks no less. Not saying Gulden Draak should be criticized, just that Deschutes should not be dragged through the mud for making a "Light Quad". Anyway, this beer is not a home run because the mouthfeel is a little off and it could use a little more tartness and/or dryness. Despite that, this is a boldly flavored beer that is quite enjoyable. Deschutes - continue to try new things and fuck the naysayers.

Note: Deschutes should not have put a "Best By" date on the beer that is one year out. Really limits multiple bottle purchases and makes it seem as if the beer has no chance at developing further with age.

Photo of ikantspel
2.51/5  rDev -34.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

22oz bottle with wax cap. served slightly chilled into a Duvel tulip.

pours a dark cider color with a creamy finger white head.

unfortunately, im coming over a cold and i can barely get a good smell.

kinda perturbed about the taste. doesnt really taste or feel like a quad in my mouth. more like a tripel. adequate taste just not what i would expect from a quad. maybe the wax-coated cap got my hopes up too high

Photo of mithrascruor
3.22/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

22. oz. bottle poured into a chalice.

Appearance: Pours a hazy orange color with a minimal slightly off-white head. Quickly turns to a light film, yet with a fair bit of bubbles to one side.

Smell: Lots of yeast and sweetness. A bit fruity, but not easy to identify anything in particular.

Taste: Somewhat more heavy malt flavors up front, but sweetness and fruits (peach, apple) come in quite fast to dominate the flavor, with a bit of yeast in the background. The same persists through the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Light- to medium-bodied with a fair amount of carbonation.

Drinkability: This is definitely a bit too much on the sweet side. It is strong at 1% ABV, but alcohol isn't really present in the taste.

I'm not quite sure why this is billed as a quad. Certainly that style isn't particularly well-defined (at least not historically), but this seems more like a Tripel in all respects. The sweetness, though, absolutely dominates the flavor over the yeast and other elements. Let's just say that I'm glad the price tag fell off this one, so that's one thing I don't remember.

Photo of lonestar4lunch
4.09/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours an orange/peach color with minimal head (soft pour also). The aroma is crazy. Spice, bitter berry, yeast and some sweet fruit at the end. It is a bit stronger than I expected but was very good. There seems to be 2 sides to this one. The first sip was a bit spicy as far as it started with very little sweetness and the quad style really came thru with that strong belgian yeast. Then a quick second sip became oh so sweet. It was like the smoothest blended fruit juice then some light wood characteristics then a creamy bubblegum finish. The carbonation level is about perfect on this one, just enough to wake it up some each sip but not to where it over powers it. There is just a very small hint at the 11% but overall this is very drinkable. A bit sweet on the finish for me but glad I go to try this one.

Photo of DovaliHops
4.23/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours an orangish, golden amber color with a large cream colored head that hangs around for a long time. Scent is a bit on the funky side...wasn't expecting that. I get a lot of white grape aroma with typical Belgian beer spices and Belgian yeast. Very fruity and spicy with nice funk. Flavor is initially spicy with hints of barnyard funk. Then you get a ton of white grape flavor with Belgian yeast. Then the rye and oak kick in, with definite vanilla and butterscotch flavors from the barrel. Quite a bit of booziness and burn in the finish. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a bit of a creamy feel. Drinkability is fairly high. Overall, I think this is a very nice and tasty beer. I was very skeptical due to the high amount of poor reviews and trash talk on this beer. I will admit, that this should in no way shape or form be labeled as a Quad. Not sure what I would call it, but I really enjoy it.

Photo of UTCengOwl
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this beer over the weekend. Found it at Spec's when I really wasn't looking for it. I'm a sucker for new beers and wax-sealed caps, so.... here's a review! Split with someone else and served in a Great Divide balloon glass.

I don't have full notes on this beer, so this will be a short review.

I'm glad I read reviews of this beer before cracking it. It's definitely a BSGA and not a Quad. In fact, it's quite a good BSGA. Great apple and spice notes. Very drinkable and complex. Most everything you could want from a BSGA, in fact. Definitely comparable to La Fin Du Monde, if not better. However, since the beer notes a presence of pomegranate, wine barrels and rye barrels, you'd think those elements would have a larger presence. I kept wishing there would be more of a note from any of those. Some large sips gave off a vanilla hint that brought forth the rye. The final sips of the bottle gave me some interesting pomegranate notes. However, it just never came together. This beer was too subtle for my tastes and I wish I would have beaten me over the head a bit more with each of the added elements. Then it could have been a great beer instead of a merely very good beer. That disappointment makes me give it a lower score than it probably deserves.

Photo of scottfrie
4.03/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle into Portsmouth snifter.

A: Pours a dark amber-golden with a large, fluffy, off-white head that faded into a thick film leaving a sticky network of lacing down the glass.
S: Big notes of Belgian yeast and golden fruits with a hint of pink bubblegum, coriander and spices.
T: Follows the nose with dominating golden fruits, oak, white wine, barrel spices and pear. I believe the bubblegum I got on the nose might actually be the pomegranate, although it is not very strong. There is some spice, but other than that I’m not getting any rye barrel, especially not any bourbon.
M: Medium body, fuzzy carbonation that bubbles up in my mouth, and a slick mouthfeel. The alcohol is hidden very well.
O: Quad? Maybe not. But what do I know. I liked this beer. It has a great flavor and I am definitely going to buy another bottle to cellar. Screw semantics, I enjoyed this whole bottle.

Photo of Genji
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Light amber/honey. White head withlacing.

S - Citrus flavors with some alcohol due to the 11% ABV.

T - Sweet, but smooth with the usual Belgian yeast flavor. Very drinkable. Went very well with my flame grilled burger.

M - Not thick. Fairly light for such a brew.

D - Medium. Somewhat sweet; fairly complex; makes you want to savor each sip.

I think I like this one very much. at $12/bottle not one I'd buy all the time, but for a special evening... just the thing.

Photo of badboyrsl84
3.7/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours the color of white wine into the taster glass with a tiny white head that disappeared quickly.

Smell - grapes, lemon grass, and farmhouse funk.

Taste - first thought, grape juice with some Belgian funk in the end. Lemon notes and grains of paradise maybe. Some alcohol presence in the throat when swallowed

Overall - very drinkable with no complaints here. Not the best quad but not the worst.

Photo of Mora2000
3.37/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The beer pours a dark brown color with a tannish head. The aroma is full of nuts and toffee. I seem to remember the Hazelnut Brown Nectar from Rogue tasting similar to this beer, but it has been a long time since I have had it. The flavor is full of caramel and toffee malt with some cocoa and nuttyness. There is a cream flavor to the beer as well. Medium to thick mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nice, but not worth the price.

Photo of jeff1973
4.05/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22oz, waxed-sealed bottle into a Gouden Carolus chalice.

A - Light honey color. Off-white head leaves decent lacing.

S - Sweet plums and Piloncillo (mexican brown sugar), a little band-aid, and a little alcohol.

T - The sweet brown sugar hits first, then mellows (very smoothly) to the plums and a little licorice, then some nice Belgian funk to end. Even though I smelled a little alcohol in the nose, it is very well hidden. Taste is really smooth and well balanced.

M - Medium carbonation. Medium mouthfeel. It really washes very well over the palate without feeling too thick.

D - Medium. The mouthfeel, sweetness, and complexity makes you want to take your time.

Really good beer. Great dessert beer after a good meal or with a good cigar. Lots of layers and very well balanced.

The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 583 ratings.