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The Stoic - Deschutes Brewery

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BA SCORE
87
very good

583 Ratings
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Ratings: 583
Reviews: 225
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 14.88%
Wants: 66
Gots: 182 | FT: 7
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Deschutes Brewery visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

(Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011)
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Photo of sprucetip
4.08/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

It's a very good looking brew with good clarity and a very light amber color. It had a prodigious head that hung about for a bit before receding and leaving patches of lacing. It is very active, and this continues long after the pour.

The Belgian yeast character is strong and dominant, including some funk. Malty sweetness comes in a close and well balanced second to the yeast. Crystal or not, I get some caramel mixed in with the sweetness. And the yeast imparts a banana like fruitiness, similar to a German wheat beer. I notice some boozy heat, but barely, especially considering its strength. As it warms, I notice the oak barrels coming in at the end. Smells really nice, even if it makes me think Triple rather than quad.

Malty sweet and Belgian yeast lay down the base. But right up front with them, in lesser proportion, are a light citric hop influence and a similarly derived mild bitterness, joined by a mild tartness. The oak barrels emerge in the middle, and the bitterness increases gradually. At first I sensed some fruitiness, maybe peach and banana. But by the end I'm not getting that so much. Regardless, it is creatively complex and tasty brew.

Mouthfeel is well carbonated, rich, full bodied and viscous. Warming is gentle. The finish is clean and every so slightly (but noticeably) bitter. Bitter in a way that implies subtle but intentional American style hopping.

Well, like many of the other reviewers, I wouldn't call this a "quad", based on my experience with quads. It's not like Allagash Four, Westy 12, Rochefort 10, Pannepot, Abt 12, Koninghoeven and so on. But I'm not going to ding this exotic brew due to being mislabeled as a style that is a very contrived and hard to define style in the first place. This beer is very complex, nuanced, smooth, balanced, and tastes great. Hard to knock it, even though this is not at all what I had in mind when I responded to the Deschutes "Advisory Board" email asking what we thought they should make (I suggested a Quad, as wells as some others, such as a BDSA). I even said something like "just go ahead and try and clone Koningshoeven." Not quite, but really good. I like it. I wonder how you all would have reviewed this had it been called a Tripel?

Photo of Bitterbill
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Best by Aug 4, 2012.

It pours a slightly hazy orange gold with a solid 1 finger head of foam, loads of bubbles rising up, and it has some fine lacing.

The smell is yeasty with a hint of some horse blanket(not much, mind you), spicy(white pepper, others), and some fruity notes. To me, it smells like a Saison..

That fruitiness, yeah, definitely pomegranate, with some definite spicy notes, again white pepper others, yeasty, mild on both the sweet and bitter. I like pomegranate so that's okay how evident it is in the taste. Okay, I was looking for some hint or 2 of the barrel goodness and I think I found them; some slight vanila with a bit of a winey tartness. No alcohol to mention in the taste but it sure does a hella job of warming the throat and tummy.

Medium bodied, lively carbonation, just an above average mouthfeel for my tastes.

1 Bottle at a sitting? For me, definitely yes. It would make a good nightcap.

Overall, A good to very good beer that, I don't know, doesn't fit the style *too* well but I've come across other "Quads" that resemble that remark. I'm curious about the best by label; I would think this would "gain" from some cellaring.

Photo of bennetj17
3.48/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Twenty-two ounce bomber served in my St. Bernardus Chalice. This beer looks nothing like a Quad, it has a very deep gold which is much too light. Also it is extremely clear which is unusual. The carbonation looks abundant though, with a medium thick head after the pour. Very estery nose, with banana dominance, yet no dark fruits and little spiciness to speak of. Light alcohol fume. I am reminded of Vitus, which is odd considering this is a Belgian beer.

The taste is moderately sweet with a light tanginess toward the finish. It's very fruity, but it's a bit one dimensional with the estery character dominating. The barrel aging does a fine job of giving a smooth feel on the palate, though it's effects go rather unnoticed in the flavor. The alcohol is masked nicely though. Light to medium body.

This beer was kind of a mess for the style. For all the different barrel aging they did, plus the addition of pomegranate, you would have expected some more complexity. Instead you have a very average strong beer that is not worth the price tag. I wish now I would have bought just one bottle instead of two. I should have spent the money on a couple Rochefort 10s, a much better investment.

Photo of CaptainTripps
2.5/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

22oz Bottle poured into a Duvel Tulip.

A: The beer poured a light in color, bright amber with orange and golden hues. The beer came with 2 fingers worth of off white head that left decent amounts of lacing on the side of the glass. Very light in color, far from what a Quad should look like, but will give it points for what its worth.

S: Sweet belgian yeast straight from the get go followed by light fruit's: apples, white grapes and pears. There is also hints of pomegranate. A unique spicy character is present along with alcohol and oak. The beer is really missing the dark belgian fruits, very different from most Quads.

T: Light fruits dominate the palate. Vanilla, oak and Belgian yeast join the ride as well. The beer has a strange twist of flavors. There is also a strange presence of alcohol on the mouth that throws off some flavors. Really missing the key components that make up a "Quad."

M: Medium bodied beer with a good amount of carbonation. There is a weird alcohol presence, not going to say "over powering" but its just strange.

O: I was really expecting more from Deschutes with this beer, but they went along with most of American brewers, brewing a "light" quad that just doesn't work. It really misses the key components that makes up a wonderful Belgian Quad/BSDA. I want to smell and taste the complexity of dark fruits paired with sweet candied sugar, the smoothness of the alcohol rolling right over the tongue.

The score at hand was rated to style.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.15/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to daysinthewake for sending this bottle out my way. Served in a Mikasa tulip.

Pours a semi-hazed peach color with a bit of a white head and light lacing on the way down. The nose brings light honey and faint fruit. None of the barrel character really coming through. Medium body and light dryness in the finish with some sweetness. As it warms, the sweetness becomes more prominent. Not terribly complex, and not really getting much of the "weird" stuff they did to this one. This is just an average Belgian strong that didn't live up to what it was billed as. Oh well.

Photo of JayAre46
3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A - poured hard into a duvel tulip yielding a 2 finger white head, transparent light amber with orange and golden hues.

A - upfront a sweet belgian yeast, with a white grape touch, not a big barrel influence. very fruity and not dark fruits by any means.

T - white wine influence ugghhhh ....fruity, sweet, follows the nose,pomegranate way in the back. this beer tastes like apple juice, flashes of barrel aging, more oak wine influence than oak whiskey, perhaps more barrel aging (>33%) could really do some good along with red wine barrels. belgian strong pale ale is a closer comparison than a quad. hops are non existent, alcohol is well hidden

M - carbonation is amazing, the body is medium and this beer flows very well and is very soothing on the palate best part of the beer to me.

O - decent brew but i feel like the effort put in doesn't justify the means...intersting but the characteristics are very subtle, i wish it had a stronger barrel influence. im sorry but is this a lightly barrel aged carbonated complex apple juice with invisible alcohol? yeah we already know to not expect a "quad" ....cold weather would be optimal for this one but optimal choices deviate away from this in general.

Photo of jjanega08
3.65/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Best By
08/04/12 H

A= The pour is a bit of a light color for a Quad. The color is a bright amber almost orange color with a thin white head on it that holds onto a skin on the top. The lacing on the glass is decent but nothing special.

S= The smell is very unique. Not the dark fruit bomb like I expect from a quad. A decent amount of pomogranete as well. The wine barrel comes through a lot actually and is much more prominate than the whiskey. Really interesting smell. The most unique "quad" I've ever smelled.

T= The taste is again one of those unique flavors. Tart in a way. The pomegranete is very tart and prominate in it. The wine barrel comes through a lot in the front I would say and the finish the whiskey barrel comes through more. The quad characteristics are quite unique as well comeing through and mingling with the pomegranete making an interesting fruit combination. A nice Belgian yeast character comes through finishing a little "dirty".

M= Beautiful. Feels lively on my tongue.

O= A worthy beer. This doesn't resemble a quad very much so my rating may be a little low but this is a quality beer for sure. Nice flavor and profile just a little far from my idea of a quad.

Photo of depechemode1983
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Clear orange amber in color. Pours with a substantial off-white head but with moderate retention. Seems to be well carbonated. No lacing.

S - Lots of wine characters in the nose. White sour grapes, peach, green apples and vinegar undertones are present along with some Belgium yeast and spice.

T - Sweet white wine takes center stage. Lots of sweet white grape to start off with. Sweet peaches and apples come in. Taste almost like it smells. Just a bit of sourness but not much. Ripe granny smith apples come to mind. Finish is sweet and boozy. Lots of alcohol on the ending.

M - Medium bodied. Soft and bubbly. Really like the carbonation on this one.

O - As far as beer goes this is really good. Not so much a Quad but a really interesting experimental brew that deserves more credit.

Photo of Phelps
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip from a bottle with a best by date of 8-04-12.

As others have said, this ain't a quad. The first hint is the color — a pale, watery orange that's perfectly clear. The one finger head is khaki in color and pops away after a very short time to a lingering ring.

You can get the barrel aging in the nose, surprisingly. Winey notes of red grapes, some green apple. Toasted biscuits, pear, oak.

Green apple, peach and pear are in the flavor as well. There’es also more wood, delivered in a smooth blend with definite hits of vanilla and bourbon.

Lightly poky carbonation in a big, thick medium body. There’s a lot of unavoidable heat in the throat and a bit on the tongue. Heavy with alcohol and flavor, you really feel it when it goes down.

Well, it’s not a quad, but overlooking the epic mislabel on Deschutes' part, this really isn’t a bad beer. On the contrary, it's an incredibly complex, tasty Belgian strong pale.

Photo of harrymel
2.3/5  rDev -39.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

Alright, here it goes.

A: pours a copper ale with a single finger of white foam. These suds fall quickly to a thin and broken sheet of the same. Spotty lacing. Excellent clarity.

S: Belgian yeast, candy sugar, lead, maybe a raspberry tone. Definitely can smell the rye whiskey. Not getting the pomegranate.

T: Again, yeast, then some tartness and spiciness (rye like). Having a hard time placing a finger on the other fine flavors, but none is particularly dominant or appealing.

M: Medium on thin body with waaayyy too much carb. Not smooth, doesn't allow me to really enjoy the flavors, keeps my tongue busy.

O: I'm very disappointed with the beer as a whole. The yeast is too dominant to allow for the other flavors to shine appropriately. It, as is well known, does not flow with the typical Quad format, and is more like a tripel for me honestly. The yeast gives that chemical, clove on coriander tone. I will not be purchasing another bottle of this unless a trader of mine wants some.

Photo of Philousa
4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a deep caramel color with one finger white head. The tiny bubbles are like an eye candy appetizer for the beer. The nose suggests its complexities with caramel, spices, sweet fruit, and pungent lemon and banana notes over the course of my 22 oz bomber. The carbonation makes this light and airy to offset the sweet caramel sugar taste. There is a citrusy taste in there somewhere, along with some sweeter fruit flavors, like you might get in dried fruit. Ends in an alcohol burn that isn't too harsh and fades slowly. This beer has a notably silky mouthfeel.

I'm really digging this beer. I noticed the subtleties over the course of the bomber and as it warmed up. This is a complex beer, but it isn't too complex. It's a beer that lets you know it's got some depth but doesn't flaunt it in your face, and I like that. I could go for another 22 ouncer, but the 11% ABV says I shouldn't. I had to remind myself of the ABV since it hides it so well with the noticeable but not over the top candy sugar. Excuse me while I go to my local liquor store to stock up.

Photo of riored4v
4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed on 9/10/11

Poured in to a Duvel tulip. 2 finger, fluffy, off-white head. Clear, dark golden body.

Aroma had a good fruitiness to it. Some moderate swetness. Lots of oak and some subtle pomegranete showing. Mild spiceness.

Taste is where it got really unique some great complexity. Moderate sweetness with some strong vanilla flavors. Lots of fruit with pomegranete really coming through. Somewhat earthy. Good amount of oak. Light spiciness. A bit bready and caramely.

Mouthfeel had a medium/heavy body with a medium carb. Slightly sticky and chewy.

Overall i thought it was good and very unique. Sweetness and high abv limit the drinkability but otherwise it was very good. Can't wait to see what it tastes like with some aging.

Photo of GilGarp
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bomber with black wax stamped with Best by date of 8/4/12.

Served cool into a chalice, the first thing that strikes me is the color. Very light in color, much closer to a tripel than a quad. A slightly hazy golden yellow color with a thin layer of short-lived head.

The label on The Stoic is more confusing that anything to me. The words prized, potent, depth, and complexity on the front. Some blurb about 4 fermentations, different types of barrels, stoicly brewed, and a medieval ancestor? Ridiculousness...

Aroma is a pleasant combination of oak aging vanilla character, Belgian yeast spice notes, and a hint of pomegranate.

Flavor is surprisingly sweet and light. Malts must have been kept on the lighter side with no roast or even caramel/toffee to speak of here. Obviously a lot of malt was used to get 11% but it doesn't have much depth in that department. It does, however, allow the different aging processes to show through better. The oak is prevalent with hints of the previous contents. Fruity, spicy, and perfumey.

Mouthfeel is medium-plus in body and nicely carbonated. Balance is towards the sweet side and the alcohol is very well disquised.

Overall an interesting beer but it seems misleading to call it a quad. True Belgian quads share little, if anything, in common with this Oregonian version. Throw it in the 'American Strong Ale' category and leave it at that.

To end on a positive, I think it's very easy drinking for such a strong beer. Bring this to Thanksgiving and serve next to wine. I bet the family would find it an interesting counterpoint.

Photo of Jules11788
4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a small head, light lacing; golden straw color

S: Sweet Belgian yeast with some nice spiced/floral notes. Smells very enticing

T: Sweet, slightly tart with a floral Belgian flavor; good helping of cinnamon, nutmeg, and Belgian yeast

M: Medium thickness, lightly carbonated; very smooth, and hides the alcohol exceptionally well

O: I don't know what everyone is getting so flustered about. So what if this isn't a "traditional" Belgian Quad, it still tastes fantastic! I would classify it more as a Belgian Strong Pale, but that's just my thought on the matter. Forget the bad hype -- pick one up, it's delicious!

Photo of vkv822
2.83/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

22oz bottle into tulip snifter.

Pours a clear golden orange with a thin, short lived tan head.

The nose is of mostly clove. There are some fruit notes as well.

The taste is sweet upfront, followed by cloves and fruits, perhaps pear and apple? Some heat from the alcohol.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with light carbonation.

Definitely not a quad, and still a fairly uninspiring beer otherwise as well. Nothing what I would expect from Deschutes' Reserve Series.

Photo of GregSVT
3.08/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle into a snifter

A: Pours a light orange with a white head that fades to a ring and leaves no lacing on the glass.

S: The nose is very interesting. Floral notes of wine, green apples, and vanilla. The barrels have taken over here but it smells very nice.

T: The taste mimics the nose with big sweet flavors of apples, grapes, vanilla, and malt. A little overly sweet and nothing to balance it out.

M: The feel is on the lighter side of medium bodied and nearly flat.

O: While this isn't very quad like it does smell a lot like the barrels it was in which is what most barrel aged beers turn out to be. That being said the flavor was a bit too sweet and the beer going flat halfway through the glass is a bit concerning.

Photo of philmcguinn
4.28/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into a Duvel tulip on 9-12-2011

Reviewing this as a beer and not on it's faithfulness to the Belgian Quad style.

Pours an light amber hue with thin lacing on the top, dissipating quickly.

Smells of fruits, belgian yeast, some alcohol heat, figs. raisins. Apricots and bananas come through in the nose as well.

Mouthfeel is fairly creamy, with apricot and raisin flavors coming through foremost. If it didn't say pomegranate on the side, I wouldn't know it was in there. A lot of alcohol on the finish but it's not unpleasant (might be my tolerance for high alcohol beers), and a pretty dry finish, possibly from the barrel aging. Not noticing any rye whiskey flavor but pleasant heat going down. Lingering flavors of banana and clove and dryness on the tongue.

I like this beer a lot. There are a lot of great fruit flavors that I've found in other American Belgian Style beers, and the barrel aging adds a certain dryness that just makes me want to try another sip. There were a few bottles of this at the Whole foods near my work, I may have to snag a couple more after the good experience with this one.

Photo of Beaver13
2.13/5  rDev -44.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

22oz bottle. Pours a slightly hazy golden orange with a medium creamy white head that goes to a thin film and laces the glass some.

The aroma is sugary caramel malts, banana and cloves, some grassy hops and quite a bit of plasticky alcohol.

The flavor is very sweet sugary malts with some fruitiness, and a bit of slightly burnt bitter alcohol in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with smooth carbonation, slightly watery.

Overall, it's a bit of a mess. Way too cloying and alcoholic. I'll take a St Bernardus anytime over this.

Photo of chugalug06
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Very nice clear amber color with limited bubbles. Head also is limited. *some* lacing remains, but nothing worth noting. Very basic appearance, other than fine clarity of brew.

S - Very nice and smooth! Some great Belgian hints really come out. Nice banana, apple, and spices.

T - WHA! Strong heat! Needs many months to calm down and relax. there's some awesome sugars to still ferment and I think this will definitely help with the uncomfortable ABV.

M - HEAT! Perfect carbonation. Zero bitterness. I would love to rate this brew higher, but the heat is overwhelming!!!

O - I hope to re-review this brew in a year or so and give it a better rating. Kind of a disappointment, but super glad I FINALLY got to try it after many months of anticipation.

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.22/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The Stoic, Deschutes Brewery, Bend, Oregon, A Prized, Potent Belgian-styled Quad of Stirring Depth and Complexity. …well, there, I don't need to say anything more, right?) The Stoic, malt beverage brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% beoing aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% aged in oak rye whiskey barrels.

Clear, deep amber hue, slim head. Looks nice, despite the meager foam.

Aroma: the barrels speak first, oak and rye come right out of the nose, fruit and alcohol (11%) come next. Deep, while delicate. Pomegranate is here, accompanied by pear and apple.

Taste: Bright, ripe fruit, as before, apple, pear, pomegranate, met with cherries and berries. A switch of spice comes shining through, and the oak rises up, as well. It all coalesces, in an intriguing bl
end.

Was it red wine in the oak barrels? Not sure, but I can feel that flavor coming through. I am glad they judiciously aged a mere 1/3 of the brew, for too much would be overpowering, and I appreciate some subtlety more than ever these days.

Malt makes a good match for the high alcohol. No hops, low bitterness, but fine, funky fruit flavor, and beautiful oak additions. I'm loving this. Stirring Depth and Complexity, indeed. I've made fast friends with this Stoic.

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

** Reviewing this on on the merits of the brew, because it is no where near traditional Quad territory.**

Pour into my HotD goblet.. Aggressive pour .... foamy 1" off white head.. decent retention and only spotty lacing.. the brew is crystal clear lite orange...

The nose shows a quality mix of traditional esters and phenols... pear and white pepper... overripe apples and lite clove.. interesting.... subtle barrel notes, but again, very subtle.

Flavor is a melange of the above noted Belgian qualities.. Asian pears and apple with musky honey essence.. just a bit of clove... more estery than phenolic on the palate.. a bit of oak... definitely more of the wine barrel comes out than the whiskey barrel.. lite pink bubblegum with warmth...

Body is about right.. carbonation seems in range too... maybe a bit syrupy.

I am really surprised Deschutes decided to call this one a "Quad" .... no where close except maybe the yeast strain.... A pretty good BSPA ... still too much residual sweetness .... but a Quad? No chance.

I will probably buy some of these for the cellar and trading, but I honestly do believe it will get better with some aging... but it will never be a Quad.... damn... "Quad" .. big mistake in marketing.

3.5/3.5/3.5/3.5/3.5

Photo of ocelot2500
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours a hazy golden amber with a tight, frothy white head that leaves small chunks of lacing.

Smells of a bit of a white wine character with bright fruits and spices.

Tastes of sweet fruits up front with a spice layering. Notes of banana, grape, and apple come through ending in pomegranate. Comes through with a syrupy sweetness. A bit of toasted bread sits in the middle leading in to the spices. Notes of clove mostly to me. I do detect some rye as well, but it feels out of place and doesn't mix with the fruit well. Alcohol comes through fairly strong and leaves a decisive burning in the chest.

Mouthfeel is medium-full with a smooth amount of carbonation.

Overall, I like this, but it probably has to do with my love of pomegranates. I wouldn't really recommend this, because I feel like Deschutes is just trying to do too much.

Photo of Zorro
3.43/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Chill hazed amber colored beer with a very tall near white colored head.

Smell is sour. Sour apples and cranberry with vanilla and oak. Little bit of coriander and perhaps a little Brett funk. Mostly though this smells sour.

Starts out sweet with a malt and vanilla taste. Fruit flavor mostly green apple with the oak vanilla flavor. Kind of a Rorschach test for your tongue lots of elusive flavors here but not any really strong ones. Alcohol is very detectable, strong burn in the chest. This gets sweeter as you drink it.

Mouthfeel is OK.

This seems to be a beer that is confused about what it wants to be. Doesn't taste bad but doesn't really taste like a Quad either. Reminds me of one of those weird beers DFH makes based on archeology. Worth a try I guess.

Photo of kbutler1
3.1/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bottle. Poured into a NB tulip glass a medium copper color with a white head that quickly settles to collar around the glass. Closing my eyes the aroma is decenlty strong belgian yeast aromatics; clove, banana, fruity, etc, I wouldn’t say that pomegranate sticks out here. Malty, some biscuit, a light tartness, spice, herbal, all come out in the flavor. Again, not overly a pom taste. Bubblegum and some green apple. Rye whickey barrel? Really? What was the point as it doesn’t come out to me really. I’m not hating this for what it is but for what went into it, it’s not the best, it’s decent but that about it. Medium mouthfeel.

Photo of cbarrett4
3.78/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from tap at Deschutes Portland:

Poured a dark amber - reddish brown hue. Very little head, almost no lace, good carbonation. Pretty average look for an American quad.

Smells nicely of spice, honey, and rye but oddly not too much of Belgian yeast... Also not picking up much from the barrel aging...

Flavors focus on a banana, apple, spice, rye core with some alcohol really pushing through. A hint of spice. I do get a faint flavor from the barrel maturation. Pretty good palate.

Texture is good, medium body, but a bit light for a quad, little grip, but the alcohol is oppressive, it really overwhelms. There is nowhere near enough body or texture to stand up to it.

A very good beer by most standards, but I expect more from Deschutes, especially for one of their reserve series. I have enjoyed several seasonal dubbel, trippel, and quadrupel offerings that were not in their reserve line which expressed a truer Belgian heart than this beer. I think it has potential, but I will not be purchasing this anytime soon. I'll spend my dollars on Jubel 2010, Abyss, and Black Butte XXIII.

The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
87 out of 100 based on 583 ratings.