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Zeno - Dogfish Head Brewery

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Zeno
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BA SCORE
88
very good

33 Ratings
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Ratings: 33
Reviews: 19
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 9.23%
Wants: 3
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Delaware, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  5.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This Brewpub Exclusive saison is an interesting paradox; refreshing yet flavorful, light but complex. The Saison yeast strain takes center stage and contributes complex aromas of pineapple, mango, papaya, and pepper. A healthy dose of American hops at the end of the boil compliments the tropical fruit aromas with their own notes of citrus rinds and fruit.

25 IBU

(Beer added by: TMoney2591 on 06-27-2010)
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3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

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3.58/5  rDev -10.7%

Poured on-tap and served in a pint glass, the beer is a bright, pale, gold color. Crystal clear with lots of carbonation and a thin, filmy head. Nose of lemon zest, hops, and floral highlights. The flavor is slightly sour, with a smokey undertone and spiced-citrus flavors, including some coriander. The aftertaste is all spice, leaving any of the fruit character overpowered. The finish is dry and quick.

GarthDanielson, Aug 10, 2011
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3.13/5  rDev -21.9%

Review from notes. Had on tap at the DFH brewpub in Rehoboth Beach along with ShanePB.

A: Served in a 16oz glass, Zeno was a clear orange with very little bits of bubbles on top, not quite a head though. No lacing either.

S: Floral with some grassy hops, and a bit of orange peel. Not as much spice as I used to in a saison, just a hint of pepper.

T: Similar to the aroma, but a bit more subdued. Some grassy hops and sort of fruity with some graham cracker malt. The spices only come through right at the end again.

M: Medium bodied with high carbonation, but a bit watered down almost. Finishes dry.

O: A bit disappointing. Was hoping for more flavors from a brewery that makes flavorful beer. Maybe it was just this batch, as both ShanePB and I felt that this was a letdown.

mdaschaf, Jul 29, 2011
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3.03/5  rDev -24.4%

Served on-tap at the Dogfish Head Rehoboth beach pub. 16 ounce poured into a pint glass, and served well after it was poured.

A: Orange copper body, extremely clear with an obvious filtered nature to it. No head, no retention, no lacing. Talk about a lackluster looking beer, this is just pretty sad.

S: Wet grassy hops, orange peel, black pepper, rose hips. A very faint grainy and hay-like base from the malt comes through but it doesn't seem to add any real diversity or depth to the aroma.

T: Initially the grain bill comes through with evidence of hay and milled grain flavors. Slight earthy, grassy hops provide a nice cut through the rather mundane profile so far. This ends a bit dry with some spice and peppery notes.

M: Nice and bubbly carbonation, a bit thin and watery though. Bordering on the low end of a medium-bodied beer. Dry in the finish.

For this small batch saison from one of my favorite breweries, this was simply disappointing. Serving the beer improperly is one thing, but the actual contents of the glass itself couldn't stand on their own. It wasn't bad in drinking, though I'd never order this again and many saisons are out there that put this attempt to shame.

ShanePB, Jul 21, 2011
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4.05/5  rDev +1%

On tap in the matching glassware at Winking Lizard on 6/2/11

Eye catching gold with a subtle haze. One finger head dissipates but a thin layer remains. Regardless, there is a good showing of lace.

Zeno boasts an utmost crisp aroma. Citrus zest and spice lead off and are engulfed in swaths of grass. Lemon grass and prairie. Hints of pepper; perhaps from the French yeast. Apple tartness. Nips of orange. Clove is apparent as it warms. Very Clean.

Ooh, packs a bit of a punch, too. It's a restless critter. Lemon zest and a touch of tangy light fruits take up the front half. Grassy flavor mid way through that holds until the finish. Undertones of grains; thank you, pilsner malts. Spicy finish with grassy residuals and citrus zest, orange pith. The flavor profile is seamless. Cracked white pepper lingers long. Herbal notions as it warms up.

The body is crisp and filled out with ample carbonation - half fluffy, half prickly. The only downside is that the carbonation prevents it from being anything more than a sipper. Other than that, it's clean with a pleasant finish.

Overall impression: plenty of good things going on with little room for gripes.

Ryan011235, Jul 21, 2011
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3.85/5  rDev -4%

Had at the attic in Toledo on draft.

Poured into a pint glass, golden orange color with a super thick foamy white head. Pretty cloudy. Very carbonated.

Smells like orange peel, coriander, and a little funkyness.

Taste is like a spicy wheat beer but with a belgian yeastyness to it. Somewhere in between wheat beer and saison but not really a true saison. I am more reminded of the taste of something like holy moses than a saison. Nonetheless super refreshing.

Overall this is just another dogfish beer to knock off the list. It is good but nothing to right home about. I like the idea of making a nice refreshing summer beer but this one was just a little too filling for me.

beerhan, Jul 16, 2011
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4.1/5  rDev +2.2%

On tap at Rehoboth Beach Brewpub. From notes, 7-11-2011

A - slightly cloudy yellow body, small white head.

S - crisp, a slight tartness, some lemon zestiness

T - light malts, lemony tartness.

M - light-bodied, good carbonation, giving the beer a nice presence.

O - A super solid saison, very tasty, drinkable. Highly enjoyable.

ColdPoncho, Jul 13, 2011
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3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

Enjoyed at DFH pub in Rehobeth. All that one would expect from a Saison, except the bar lists it as 5.9% ABV instead of BA's 5.2%. Very pleasant, wheaty summer flavours with a lingering bitter finish.

Aroma is limited to the wheat with a mild fruit sweetness in the background. Flavours follow, with none of the west-coast IPA hops I'd hoped for after the in-house description : "A refreshingly light Saison with a healthy dose of American hops in the finish".

Nicely bitter, but not terribly different from many other "craft" Saisons.

hopsolutely, Jul 05, 2011
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4.2/5  rDev +4.7%

a: This was a slightly hazy, pale golden color. It was served to me with a thin, whispy head.

s: A very nice combination of biscuity malts, lemon zest, and yeasty cloves. As it warmed some faint fruity esters emerged.

t: Quite dry overall, just as I hoped it would be. Biscuits and lemon up front with just a hint of fruit form the Belgian yeast. There was plenty of fresh, moderately bitter lemons at the end along with a fairly strong clove note.

m: Medium bodied with light, prickly carbonation.

d: This melding of German (pils malts), Belgian (yeast), and American (hops) is DFH at its innovative best. There experiments often go awry in my opinion, but this one works very well.

DIM, Jul 05, 2011
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4.13/5  rDev +3%

Served on-tap as Winking Lizard's glass-of-the-month offering.

Poured a mostly clear light orange-amber, as I recall. A white head stuck in rings all over the glass. Smell was fresh and herbal. Taste was very crisp and refreshing. Spicy. A lot of sour grapefruit. Unique yeast, I could tell. Tart aftertaste. A good, complex, and easily sessionable beer. I can't believe this beer isn't bottled!

sixerofelixir, Jun 14, 2011
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4.33/5  rDev +8%

Served in a kick-ass DFH & lizard branded goblet/almost wine glass. This is the best Winking Lizard glass of the month yet this year, and the beer is solid as all get-out.

What is Zeno? Well, the beer is described as a saison with German pilsner malt, American hops and French farmhouse yeast. A group of the Winking Lizard's beery best went to Dogfish Head to brew a 25th anniversary beer and, after discussing what direction to head in, this was the obvious path. The beer is named after an ancient philosopher but the beer is a fusion as only 21st century American brewers could pull off.

What a lovely colored beer! Zeno is a primarily gold color with just a touch of brown, orange and straw intermingled. A nice, white one-finger head and decent lace are acceptable, but that aspect doesn't scream saison. This could have a more billowing, fluffy head but still looks great.

The smell begins with the trademark characteristics of a nice German malt - clean pilsner notes and some crackers are evident. The yeast has contributed esters in the form of spice - white pepper, grassiness, and maybe a touch of herb. American hops don't lend a ton of citrus but just a touch of lemon and orange. More expression comes into the forefront as it warms. This is very nice - the smell could have just a bit more pop but is interesting with the German and American influences well integrated.

The taste is the strongest aspect of Zeno, and I love it when a beer comes together like this. The taste is dominated by yeasty esters, including a wonderfu spicy pepper, sweet malt and hops. After the initial yeast profile, there's a sweet malt that emerges, almost with a touch of honey. The hops add a lemony note, then the typical pilsner dryness ends the tasting experience with crackery notes. There;s a lingering bitterness but overall the beer ends very cleanly as the sweetness fades to dry. A nice ride and overall a refreshing beer with just enough subtle flavor changes to keep things interesting.

The creamy carbonation is solid and on-point, but the body is just a bit thin compared to, say, a Dupont or Fantome. I'm coming around to the idea that Americans will one day dominate even my beloved saisons. This is a step in the right direction and a great beer. Fusion comes across as natural compliments. I love it when a good beer comes together!

jampics2, Jun 08, 2011
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

A-Pale golden orange with about a finger of foamy white lacing.

S-Citrus, Belgian yeast

T-Peppery flavors, and like the aroma, I get a little Belgian yeast.

M-Dry and bitter

O-A good beer by Dogfish Head. Very complex and interesting brew. Definitely something I'd get again.

jmeyers78, Jun 06, 2011
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Zeno from Dogfish Head Brewery
88 out of 100 based on 33 ratings.