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Kaffinator - Ithaca Beer Company

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BA SCORE
88
very good

38 Ratings
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Ratings: 38
Reviews: 32
rAvg: 3.98
pDev: 10.3%
Wants: 8
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Ithaca Beer Company visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerTruth on 06-05-2007)
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Reviews by crwills:
Photo of crwills
3.58/5  rDev -10.1%

Purchased a bottle of this at Beers of the World in Rochester (I think) about 6 months back. Drank it with a friend while brewing our fifth (collectively) batch of homebrew!

Poured a very attractive dark brown, nearly black, with a slightly browish head. We shared this in pint glasses so didn't get the full effect, but it's quite nice looking. Aroma is very pleasant with hints of both dark, black coffee and espresso, as well as some bitter chocolate. Light smoky notes as well.

Flavour is a bit disappointing after the aroma -- not bad, but very one dimensional black coffee. The coffee flavours dominate most of what would normally come from a doppelbock, although as it warms up it definitely improves, and the sweet malts, bready/yeasty notes, and dark fruits shine through. Mouthfeel is slightly on the watery side.

Honestly, not something I'd purchase again -- I love coffee, but there are a lot better coffee beers out there, and I don't think a doppelbock is the best style for it. Interesting, though!

crwills, Feb 21, 2008
More User Reviews:
Photo of oberon
3.25/5  rDev -18.3%

Last of the Excelsior beers for me to to try and to be honest easily my least favorite of the bunch.Poured into a .5 liter stein a deep dark brown with a well formed 1/2 finger light brown colored head,intense roastiness in the nose almost overwhelming also some lighter caramel and vanilla notes but roasted coffee aromas dominate.Whoo this puppy is like drinking alcoholic espresso roasted to the hilt and then some some cola and wood undertones as well not nearly as sweet as I thought it might be does a bit of caramel.It can get to be a bit much after a bit if this thing is caffeinated Iam in trouble I have to get up early,wow.

oberon, Aug 17, 2007
Photo of TuckerCarlson
3/5  rDev -24.6%

On tap at Felicia's Atomic Lounge in Ithaca, NY.

Pours a dark, dark brown that still shows through some ruby when held to the light. Half inch or so of head that dissipates to a thin layer of foam covering most of the surface.

Smell is coffee, coffee, coffee, with some nice toasted malts hidden somewhere back there. Of course, I love the smell of coffee, so I'm generally alright with this.

It tastes like coffee with a tiny bit of beer in it. I feel like there's a good dopplebock somewhere back there, but just about all I taste is coffee. It's good coffee, to be sure, but the beer can't stand up to it. Maybe a double stout could have, but this just gets lost.

Mouthfeel's a little thin, which is to be expected.

OK to drink when it's up to temperature, but I doubt I'll order it again. A noble experiment, but not one that really works (at least for me).

TuckerCarlson, Jul 12, 2007
Photo of SkinnyElvis
3.68/5  rDev -7.5%

Thanks to SS biegaman for this brew. Dated June 2007. A coffee lager...hmmm. Taste and smell is all coffee. I don't taste much dopple in here b/c of the coffee. Black with a thin head. Held up pretty well for almost a year but I would drink this if you have it. Smooth mouthfeel & drinkable. An interesting brew.

Cheers.

SkinnyElvis, Apr 23, 2008
Photo of IntriqKen
3.45/5  rDev -13.3%

A bock with coffee?
Yep, I guess so.
Coffee and powdered milk chocolate flavors predomidate.
Mouthfeel is thin in comparison to the taste and this one could use a few more ABVs to match the taste as well.
Delightful, but the size of the flavors compared to the rest of the beer makes for something unbalanced and a bit of a disappointment.
Great taste, but I would expect it to be more filling as well.

IntriqKen, Feb 19, 2008
Photo of Sammy
4.1/5  rDev +3%

Although Alesmith Speedway Stout is the original, this would go great in a vertical tasting. Smooth, with roast secondary, well-malted, and the 7.2% abv is serviceable, I shared out quite a bit at Cole's from my bomber. Dark black, chocolate, coffee, tasty and enjoyable.

Sammy, Oct 15, 2007
Photo of mikesgroove
4.53/5  rDev +13.8%

I received this one, as well as the rest of the Ithaca big series from a fantastic NY trader. This was the first of the series I was going to try and chose to pick it last night as I was in the mood for something a little bit heavier with a god dose of coffee! Can't go wrong right? This one just looked great with a huge 750ml bottle that had a nice wrapped cap top and really just a sleek look to it.

Appearance - The look was very nice on this one, with a thick black liquid pouring out of the bottle. Some brown poking through around the bottom and the sides, but mostly inky black in color. A nice touch of tan colored lace then came up over the top of it. It reached a height of around two fingers before settling down to a thin crown that lasted throughout the rest of the session. Some nice side glass lace was present as well.

Smell - The aroma was all coffee as one would expect it to be. Not much hint of anything else going on here, just a rich, sweet coffee aroma that really pushed through rather nicely. Very good depth to it, and the longer it sat, the sweeter it seemed to get. Really very nice.

Taste - The flavor followed suit perfectly. A rich coffee flavor poured over the tongue and left little room for anything else. There was really no way this was a bock, just too thick, and with none of that earthy flavor you would expect from it. There was a touch of a biting bitterness in the finish, but overall it was really just an excellent coffee porter like flavor.

Mouthfeel - Pretty thick, especially for the style, it was really very nicely done. A good medium bodied ale, it was really nicely carbonated and a good bit fuller then what I would have expected from the style.

Drinkability - As far as the drinkability, it was absolutely excellent, I could have had this going on tap all day long. The alcohol was non existent and the flavors were rich and full. Great follow through and awesome carbonation, there was really noting in this one not too like.

Overall I thought this was excellent, really a fine example of a little seen style and a good beer from Ithaca. If the rest of the Excelsior series lives up to this I would be a very happy camper. One of the better beers I have had in a while. Definitely a nice one here you should seek out if you can find it.

mikesgroove, May 01, 2008
Photo of tclapper
5/5  rDev +25.6%

tclapper, Nov 17, 2011
Photo of deltatauhobbit
3.83/5  rDev -3.8%

Thanks to BeerTruth for knocking this off my wants list.
Released June 2007
Bottle #2205

Pours a dark brown color with some brown/reddish hues when held up to the light, lots of head, great retention as it fades slowly, leaves some patchy lacing.

Smell is highly roasted with a good strong whiff of coffee.

Taste is malty with a good bitter coffee aftertaste, seems a bit thin and watery though, if it was a bit "thicker" it would have been great.

deltatauhobbit, Aug 08, 2008
Photo of weeare138
3.98/5  rDev 0%

Thanks to TomDecapolis for sharing this. Bottle 284...
Appears a dark brown with caramel edges. The 1 finger, tan head slowly fades out and leaves spotty bits of lacing around the glass.
Smell is of espresso, brown sugar, caramel, and roasted nuts.
Taste is of the mentioned aromas with an obvious lean towards the coffee. Hints of cocoa found when you dig a little bit.
Mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with vanilla and espresso hanging on to the dry finish.

weeare138, Jul 19, 2007
Photo of zdk9
3.93/5  rDev -1.3%

A- Out of the 750 with a dark mahogany and some slight ruby hints streaming through from the light. Just under a finger of coffee tinted head loosens soon after and doesn't leave a trace of lacing to speak.

S- Coffee, coffee, and more coffee- certainly a flavored beer if I've ever had one. After some warming up, traces of slightly sweet malt reveal themselves, like simple syrup in the background.

T- Fresh ground coffee is dominating- if I have a qualm about this beer is that it's a one trick pony. Again after the beer warmed the malt flavor came through much more. With larger gulps my mouth was able to navigate past the coffee flavors and find some sweet maltiness.

M- Juicy and smooth. Suprisingly even with the intense roasted coffee I'm not finding this beer too bitter- the aftertaste could even be seen as sweet.

D- A great beer for what it is, but not one that I could really stand much more of because it was so single minded with the coffee essence. I'm curious to see how the caffine pans out, but I don't think this would be one to try at night.

zdk9, Jun 18, 2007
Photo of sulldaddy
4.05/5  rDev +1.8%

I sampled a 2 year old bottle poured into a pint glass at room temp. Pours a cola brown with some garnet highlights. A tan head foams up and fades to a sturdy surface layer. Aroma is toffee and roasted malt and coffee bean. Sweet malt and brown sugar mix in as well. First sip reveals a light to average body and almost no carbonation. Thougth it may be a little bigger but it is still nice.
Flavor is malty with a fairly sweet and clean taste caramel and coffee mixing. Easy to drink and very nice beer, I wish this wasnt retired.

sulldaddy, Aug 08, 2009
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5/5  rDev +25.6%

Khazadum, Nov 22, 2011
Photo of Deuane
4.1/5  rDev +3%

Bottle 1892 bottled on 07/07.

A-Deep dark brown with a medium tan head. Leaves nice lacing.

S-Light roasted coffee scent with hints of vanilla and dark roast.

T-Not as strong in coffee flavour as I would have thought. The coffee tatse is very natural tasting. Really nice certainly not overpowering.

M-Full bodied, smooth and round. A very nice feel to this one.

D-Highly drinkable. An interesting blend of a dopplebock / coffee beer. I was not sure what to expect at first but I was very pleased with the outcome.

Deuane, Feb 28, 2008
Photo of WesWes
4.33/5  rDev +8.8%

The beer pours a dark brown color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is pretty good. It has a rich roasted malt scent along with loads of coffee aroma. It has a slight caramel malt sweetness to it. The taste is good. It has a smooth burnt toffee flavor that goes down smooth and finishes a bit dry with an earthy coffee finish. It's lighter than a doppelbock, but it has an elevated abv. which adds to the character. It has a nice roasted character that really rounds out the taste. The mouthfeel is great. It's a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a good drinker. It's light enough to drink easily, but has enough character to sit back and enjoy. I like the coffee component. It's not over the top and it lends itself well to this style.

WesWes, Jun 23, 2007
Photo of mcallister
4.15/5  rDev +4.3%

Shared this brew with me lady Pixel at Spuyten Duyvil. Deep chestnut colored with an off white head that slowly fades into some spotty lace.

Nose full of espresso, mocha, caramel, brown sugar, breads, yeast, and hints of milk chocolate. Very enticing.

Creamy smooth great mouthfeel. Very well balance of the espresso and dopplebock. Works great together. Mocha, espresso, vainlla extract, almond, brown sugar, caramel, and thick sweet bready malts. A damn easy drinking beer that I like.

mcallister, May 25, 2008
Photo of GClarkage
4.05/5  rDev +1.8%

05/15/08- Generously shared by BA member Talisker.

Presentation- 750ml bottle with a bottled on date on the label. Poured into a Duvel tulip.

Appearance- A dull grey black color with a 1/2 inch head on the pour. Did leave behind nice lace patchwork.

Smell- Espresso coffee grounds, a bit of chocolate and that's about it. Pretty much about the coffee. Pretty much spot on for the beer description.

Taste- As noted above, espresso coffee. As Talsiker said, it's like someone dropped a shot of espresso in the beer. I did get a bit of chocolate and a very light hoppy note in the aftertaste. Malty, but not as full as would expect for a Doppel.

Mouthfeel- A tad thin, not watery, just not full. Lightly creamy and a bit milky at times. Coffee aftertaste that lingers.

Drinkability- Seemed more like a coffee porter than a coffee doppelbock. I really liked the taste but knocked it down a touch because it wasn't quite to style. Still, very refreshing...did I mention it was 100 degrees yesterday?

GClarkage, May 16, 2008
Photo of Viggo
4.1/5  rDev +3%

Picked up at Premier Gourmet in Buffalo.

Pours a clear reddish brown, thick tan head, head slowly settles to a layer and leaves some lace spots. Smell is roasty, cherries, espresso, chocolate, toast, yeast, intense coffee roast bitterness. Taste is similar, nice clean bready malt, chocolate, espresso, cherries, caramel, basically tastes as its billed, malty doppelbock with espresso, and the roast works very well with the malts. Mouthfeel is medium to light bodied with medium carbonation, very smooth. Nicely done!

Viggo, Nov 19, 2007
Photo of number1bum
3.98/5  rDev 0%

Bottle 2199, from my buddy BeerTruth. Thanks ahole.

Pours nearly black but shows ruby hues around the edges of the glass, and reveals itself to be more like a deep, dark brown when held to the light. Only about one finger of coffee colored head builds on top and leaves just a thin, patchy lace and minimal stick.

Coffee is definitely the dominant aroma going on here, with some sweetness to it but really not much else. Straightforward but pleasant.

Good coffee flavor, too, with some moderate sweetness and a bit of espresso-like bitterness. As it warms the sweetness comes out more and there are some chocolate notes to it. It's pretty one dimensional but tasty.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and the carbonation is pretty aggressive, but not to the point of being bothersome.

This is a solid and tasty, if pretty one dimensional brew. Definitely worth a try if you can still find it.

number1bum, May 03, 2008
Photo of lackenhauser
3.88/5  rDev -2.5%

Deep mahogany color-on the border of being black but not quite. Small tan head on top. Decent amount of carbonation. Coffeeish aroma. Mild roasted grain and a toasted nut scent. Good malty flavor up front. Decent coffee flavor with a very nice graininess to it. Lingering bittersweet cocoa. Very good body-none of the syrup like qualities of some doublebocks. Very easy going down and quite enjoyable. Nice beer for a cool summer's night. Thanks to tayner for this sample when she was offering "free" beer while cleaning out her cellar.

lackenhauser, Jul 01, 2008
Photo of JDV
4.33/5  rDev +8.8%

Bottle courtesy of littlebreeze. Big thanks! Light black pour with very little head. Smell is burnt coffee grounds. Taste is nicely flavored of coffee, with a thinnish body. Biting, bubbly carbonation which really grew on me although I normally dislike thin bubbly bodes on richer flavored beers. Almost refreshing, and very nice and drinkable. Delicious beer that exceeded my expectations!

JDV, Dec 23, 2007
Photo of brentk56
4.35/5  rDev +9.3%

Appearance: Pours a lovely shade of dark brown with a rocky head that retains fairly well and leaves some shards and dots behind

Smell: Interesting blend of coffee and dark fruit, primarily prune; a hint of plastic phenols

Taste: Opens with a black bread flavor that moves in a roasted espresso direction by mid-palate; after the swallow, the fruit comes through to join with the black bread and coffee flavors; nice lingering coffee aftertaste

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: I sure do like the Ithaca Excelsior series; this is my last of the original four and it is a tough call with the Old Habit as to which I prefer; this one is more a coffee beer than a dopplebock with coffee, but I like it just fine

Thanks, BeerTruth, for the opportunity to try them all

brentk56, Jul 31, 2008
Photo of RblWthACoz
3.63/5  rDev -8.8%

Pours a very dark brown with a darker tan/brown head. Nose is definitely coffee influenced. Flavor is strong with coffee, but it seems to be watery a bit too much after the initial shock of flavor wears off. Feel is the same, a bit thin on the liquid and very little carbonation. I have to say this is not as well made as Old Habit, which I tried and appreciated much more.

RblWthACoz, Dec 31, 2007
Photo of Kendo
3.9/5  rDev -2%

A: Poured into a pilsner glass. Body is clear, mahogany/crimson-hued black with a small tan head. No bubbles visible whatsoever, and no lacing.

S: Coffee and roasted malt, but the coffee is substantially fainter than expected given the hyperbolic description on the label on how they load this up with espresso.

T: Coffee -- almost straight coffee up front, with a bit of roasted malt and something nutty. Slight cofee-type bitterness lingers. As it warms there's some chocolate as well.

M: Light-to-medium in heft, decent carbonation despite the absence of any evidence of it in the appearance.

D: Pretty good.

Notes: I had this early in the day on Thanksgiving, wondering if there was in fact a decent amount of caffeine in it that would keep me going. It was good all around, but in my opinion not worth the $ I paid for it in the Buffalo area a couple months back (I think it was $7.99 or $8.99 at a Consumers). I'm glad I had the chance to sample it, but I would pass at a second bottle at these prices -- there are just a lot of beers out there that I'd prefer at that cost.

Kendo, Nov 27, 2007
Photo of tpd975
3.63/5  rDev -8.8%

BeerTruth supplied this one.

A: Pours big and bold...dark black with a khaki colored head. This is a medium amount of lacing.

S: Nice coffee aromas with a hint of chocolate.

T: Tons of Coffee and chocolate. Very Nice. Kind of reminds me of a cooled cafe mocha.

M: Medium to thick in body. I really like it.

D: Very Nice.though this is one big bottle of beer.

Overall: Nice drinking brew with tons of coffee and chocolate. Very nice, would love to have another.

tpd975, Nov 18, 2007
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Kaffinator from Ithaca Beer Company
88 out of 100 based on 38 ratings.