Satin Solitude Imperial Stout - Central Waters Brewing Co.

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Satin Solitude Imperial StoutSatin Solitude Imperial Stout

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very good

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Reviews: 392
Hads: 898
rAvg: 3.87
pDev: 10.59%
Wants: 61
Gots: 88 | FT: 8
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Central Waters Brewing Co. visit their website
Wisconsin, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Bierman9 on 02-19-2002

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Photo of brew3crew
1.91/5  rDev -50.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Bottle dated Feb. Drank in September.

A dark body with a tan head that quickly disapates

S-watered down coffee. I think it may be past its prime

T-kind of a metallic, old coffee taste. Really bad, wow I'm glad I didn't buy more and pisse I bought this one

M-very rustic. Ew

O-wtf happened to this beer. Not happy (317 characters)

Photo of Buebie
2/5  rDev -48.3%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

This one beer is the make or break for me in completely writing this brewery off. I've had one beer from them that was decent and the rest were truly unsatisfactory. So I walk into this beer with open arms hoping for the best.

Poured from a brown 12oz bottle into the glass. Somwhat hard too, producing less then an inch off tan head...yes tan head and light tan at that.
Color appears black, but when held to light its more of a dark brown with plenty of light shining through in ruby red highlights.
Retention is now a thin collar, a couple straks of very thin lace.
So far not good....

Alot of coffee at the knose, very similar to the porter from them I recently had. A little bit of nutty cocoa nibs, mild malt and roasty character.
I dont get it, this is like taking wiffs from a porter, not an impy stout. Terrible following of the style for appearance and aroma.

Mouthfeel is decent with a slick creamy texture, still a bit thin but mediocre in this department for the style.

Taste is roasty with a root like flavor. If I were to add roasted chocolate grains and coffee to root beer, I imagine this is what it would taste like.

I would advise avoiding this one. Add more grains to your beers, more foam control, head retention, mouthfeel grains too. I'm not suggesting you raise the abv with this method but the flavors are not there. Add more grains these are thin. I dont understand why they are labeling this beer as an impy stout, when its clearly not. Maybe a dry irish stout/ porter. Mislabeled for the style.

Drainpour. (1,542 characters)

Photo of Arbitrator
2.39/5  rDev -38.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Lightly chilled bottle into a glass. A generous extra from beerwolf77. Thanks Todd!

A: Pours a very dark brown. Ruby translucence at the edges. The head is a half finger of light tan head that retains pretty well, fading into a moderate collar with some sticky lacing down the glass.

S: Coffee -- kind of a roasted, nearly burnt, aroma. A dark fig aroma, brown sugar, and some dark chocolate.

T: Again, strongly coffee-driven. It's surprisingly bitter, unlike Founders Breakfast Stout, which does a great job of integrating coffee and chocolate flavors. This is much rougher, bringing in the coffee first and gradually progressing into chocolate, dark fruit, and some brown sugar. The coffee pulls into the aftertaste for a very bitter close.

M: Thin-bodied, and watery in flavor. I'm not a fan.

D: Definitely a weak point in the Central Waters lineup. I much prefer their Coffee Stout or Founders Breakfast Stout (a more accurate comparison) to this one. Not a strong showing. (986 characters)

Photo of falloutsnow
2.44/5  rDev -37%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

From: Woodman's, Kenosha, WI
Date: None, assuming 2013 release
Glass: Tulip

Central Waters' Satin Solitude has an intriguing name that conjures various images, but the beer itself does not live up to this. The flavors point to a usage of too much roasted malt, which floods the palate with somewhat harsh and ultimately tedious charred toast and cacao nib characters. Mislabeled for the style, this is more in the lines of a fairly innocuous borderline high ABV stout that I wouldn't pick up again. I just can't seem to connect with Central Waters: haven't had a beer of theirs yet that I enjoyed.

Pours a 1.5cm tall head of dark tan foam, made up of small-sized bubbles, creating a frothy appearance. Retention is below average, the foam lasting around thirty seconds, fading to a thin ring around the perimeter of the glass. Lacing is moderate, with a scattered, thin collection of dots clinging to the sides of the glass. Beer's body is dark brown to black, with light bringing out orange highlights around the edges of the beer. Carbonation visible at the top of the beer, not through the opaque body, being somewhat moderate in number, but high in activity.

Aroma is quite a bit more subdued than other imperial stouts, a bit of faint coffee, cocoa, and chocolate cake. Not bad, but definitely mild and potentially benefiting from more aromatic choices.

Overall flavor is of a harshly bitter and astringent roasted malt (charred toast, cacao nib, acrid coffee grounds) character with little sweetness to counterbalance this. Front of palate tastes roasted malt that contributes strong charred toast and bitterness, a bit of strong coffee, but limited sweetness, making this come across as somewhat harsh and astringent. Mid-palate of roasted malt bringing charred toast and cacao nib flavor, a bit of coffee grounds, but with little to no sweetness to act as a foil, resulting in harshly roasted, otherwise bland taste. Back of palate features faint caramel-like sweetness joined to substantial cacao nib flavors and associated bitterness, featuring what may be the best flavor the beer has to offer, yet it too is a bit harsh. Aftertaste is of fairly bland roasted malt, giving characters of blackened toast, acrid char, and cacao nibs.

Beer is medium to medium-heavy in body, with carbonation of medium intensity, resulting in a foamy (4/5) and smooth (1/5) mouthfeel that's a bit too foamy for the style, which should be a bit smoother and more sip-inducing. Ethanol is felt lightly in the nostrils and as a subtle burning on the palate, acceptable for the style and ethanol content of the beer. Closes dry, with heavy lingering stickiness on the palate and lips. (2,688 characters)

Photo of Thickfreakness
2.46/5  rDev -36.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Got in a trade from EricCioe

A- Deep dark cocoa rich color, Two finger creamy tan head that fades away gently and leaves nice lacing dripping all over the glass. A lot of carbonation for an Imperial Stout.

S- Charred wood and black coffee, Maybe a little chocolate. Not very refined on the nose. No complexity, no dried fruits, vanilla, caramel, or depth.

T- Bitter coffee... that's about it! Burnt wood and nasty coffee.

M- Really thin for an Imperial Stout. The only thing that sticks to your mouth is the bitterness of roasted coffee.

O- Reminds me of a coffee version of Harpoon Chocolate Stout... which is absolutely horrible! Not as bad as that, but I was really expecting alot more. (698 characters)

Photo of RoyalT
2.64/5  rDev -31.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance – This poured a nice dark brown in color with a frothing brown head that showed good retention.

Smell – This is nasty rotten butterscotch. That’s the only way I can describe this odor.

Taste – The grain flavor here is rotten as well and the butterscotch is back.

Mouthfeel – This is a bit bigger than light-bodied and fizzy in the mouth.

Sinkability – This is just plain nasty. (406 characters)

Photo of MbpBugeye
2.68/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This was in my box from FrankenBrew in the RIS BIF. Thanks a lot!

Poured into a Delirium Tremens snifter.

A- On the pour the beer looks like a muddy brown rather than a rich black. It collects into the glass and becomes a slightly clear, murky black. The head is pretty light in color, not large and doesnt stick around very long.

S- A bit on the weak side. Its very malty though. More caramel notes than most other Imp Stouts. Its more earthy, caramely and dusty. There is a bit of chocolate hiding in the aroma somewhere.

T- Malty. Not hugely roasted or charred like many of the style. Like the nose suggests its more mellow with notes of caramel malts, peat and smoke. There is some hops that come in very late on the finish.

M- Milky, smooth with light to medium sharp carbonation.

D- The relatively low ABV for the style makes it pretty drinkable but when Im in the mood for an Imperial Stout, Im in the mood to be challenged by a big ass, powerful beer. This one doesnt really do that. (997 characters)

Photo of barnzy78
2.69/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle, pours dark brown coming out of the bottle, but is black like cola in the glass with a thin light brown head that leaves some lacing on the glass. Aromas are odd - cheap chocolate, alcohol, somewhat woody, and I somehow get a urine odor that is off-putting to say the least. Tastes are a little better than the aromas - milk chocolate, molasses, boozy. Mouth is medium bodied, creamy, and smooth. Overall, I've had this one in the past and wasn't crazy about it. Now it's confirmed, still not crazy about it. (520 characters)

Photo of charlesw
2.72/5  rDev -29.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2

Nice and dark, a largish head, I suppose, but of really pretty little dense bubbles that last and last... Followed by a completely covering lace that never goes away.

Smells like burned stuff (cig butts), dog pee in the carpet and like a really thin crappy porter would taste (big smoke and no body).

Tastes. Well. There you go. Interesting. Cig butts. Coffee. Milk chocolate (certainly not dark!). There's a huge sour note at the end of the mouth. Might be hop related, I suppose, but that would be pretty surprising in this magnitude at this age (it can't be brand new, eh?) OK, and some caramel malts and sugar in there, too. It's a good thing that it doesn't taste like it smells! I'm not a fan of the sour notes. Sour... Sour like that de struise stuff. Bleh.

The mouthfeel is right on and I'm glad that I only have one of these to try.

That said, I am THRILLED to have the opportunity to try it and I am extremely grateful to unclejedi for the beer. It doesn't really matter if it's my fave or not - what matters is sharing the love and unclejedi knows how to do that!

Edit: on reading other reviews... Huh. Right. It's not an imperial anything. It's probably a porter. But that citrus tang in the taste will never make it acceptable (in the stout/porter family) in my book. Sorry... (1,294 characters)

Photo of blackearth
2.77/5  rDev -28.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Purchased from Ray's Liquors in Wauwatosa, WI. Poured into a DT snifter to reveal a black body with a thin tan head that quickly fades. Aroma is faint roasted malts. Full bodied with low carbonation to make for a smooth mouthfeel. Flavor is nice roasted malt from start to finish, but that's really it. Very one-dimensional, so pretty much a let down as far as I'm concerned. (375 characters)

Photo of craytonic
2.8/5  rDev -27.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Was opaque for me, I have to disagree with some of the reviewers, might be a different batch. Perhaps just a hint of light comes through.

Smell: Not as bold as I would like, malts, coffee, bitter chocolate, etc.

Taste: Same as the taste. Bitter coffee dominates, then malts and chocolate.

Mouthfeel: Thin and watery for the style. Not silky, just watery.

Drinkability: No thanks. Left some in the bottom of the glass. Should be called a porter or stout. No complexity. (484 characters)

Photo of Bmoyer0301
2.83/5  rDev -26.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance:

Pours a very dark brown but not quite black with very little to no head retention. As I hold it up to the light there is a lingering murkiness and no carbonation bubbles to be seen anywhere. As I give the glass a swirl the lacing is on the thinner side which isn't typical for a imperial stout.

Smell:

Black licorice, and loads of sweet brown sugar with some mild roast and ash aromas. There is a faint amount of coffee and molasses with no real hop presence and some heat alcohol.

Taste:

Very sweet, and reminiscent of the black licorice in the aroma almost like jagermeister. Surprisingly there is a fair amount of bitterness from ashy flavors and hops. The hops are more earthy and mossy with some herbal notes that compliment the heat alcohol very well.

Mouthfeel:

For an imperial stout this was a little thin, I prefer my stouts a little thicker and have more mouthfeel and viscosity to them when they get above the 7% ABV mark. Not the overall best beer from these guys but you can't win them all. (1,022 characters)

Photo of SaCkErZ9
2.87/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Thanks to unclejedi for this one.

Pours from a 12oz bottle into a snifter. Not quite pitch black, but very dark. Some black cherry highlights are visible at the bottom of the glass when held up to the light. A large, stiff, mocha colored head forms and leaves a generous amount of lacing.

The aroma was a bit off here. Kind of a sour, tangy aroma. It was also filled with some chocolate and a little bit of coffee, but the overwhelming aroma was a fruity sort of twang. Almost like old Halloween candy: you know, the kit kats and herseys that have been in a bag with a bunch of butterscothes and peppermint candies and red hots and bit o honeys. A melange of aromas that werent pleasing, for beer anyway.

The taste had a little bit of that twang too. There was a good dose of chocolate in there, and a hint of coffee and vanilla. I guess the twanginess wasnt as bad in the flavor as the aroma might have suggested, but there was something off with this one.

Pretty thin on the mouthfeel. A touch of bitterness, but the bitterness is more acrid and astringent than hop bitterness.

I dont know. This one kind of failed, in my book. Glad I got the chance to try this one but I cant recommend this one. Too thin, too twangy, too gone. (1,239 characters)

Photo of yamar68
2.93/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

I was told this is the base beer for their BA stout. Either that was a lie or those barrels do magical things to this beer...

Pours a very dark brown with edges of coffee/ruby red. Brief, latte head. Decent lacing. Smells of sweet malts, hard water, subtle chocolate, pretty subdued. The taste is no more powerful - big on the iron/hard water, toasty malts, no discernible hop presence. This is highly drinkable, especially for an Imperial Stout, but that’s not what I was looking for. Won’t buy again. (508 characters)

Photo of KBomb
2.97/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.75

Dark brown color, but ever so slightly translucent. There appears to be light visible through the top and edges. Not as dark as most imperial stouts. Little head nor lacing.

Aromas are of heavily roasted malt, lots of coffee type smells. A little bit of a "raw" barley smell in there too.

Taste is dominated by bitterly dark roasted malts. Negligible sweetness that one expects from what is billed as an Imperial stout. Not much complexity to the flavor.

Mouthfeel is fairly light and dry, not much chewyness or stickyness as is frequent with this style. Not unpleasant, but not what I expected.

I was curious what a Imperial Stout at this fairly economical pricepoint would taste like.' Perhaps you get what you pay for, a somewhat plain kind of beer. Simply average. (772 characters)

Photo of ddahlen
3/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured out of a 12 oz bottle with a 1-2 cm head and a pitch black hue.
The nose hits me with some dark dried fruit and some bready chocolate notes.
The taste seems a bit disjointed. I get some really roasty malt with some slightly sour dried fruit covered with some bitter chocolate.
The mouthfeel is nicely carbonated with a robust body.
Overall, this beer just doesnt seem too rounded to me. Would love to see how this turns out with some age on it. (453 characters)

Photo of Mdog
3/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Dark brown, small head.

Smell: Smells like coffee grounds + the filter paper.

Taste: Straight coffee, dry and bitter. Not particularly complex.

Drinkability: Seems more like a standard stout than an imperial, very light bodied for an imperial.

I'm wondering if this single bottle was old. It was very unimpressive, a thin bodied, low flavor for an imperial stout. (379 characters)

Photo of ChadQuest
3/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pour is light black with some browning around the edges. not super opaque.
The aroma is dominated by roasted malt notes throughout, light coffee with cream about pegs this one.
The flavors are indeed a very well attenuated dry roasted malt flavor, dry cacao beans ground and thrown in, some light vanilla. I was a bit surprised this was 7.5%, i would have thought closer to 9 or so.
The body is smooth and creamy but finishes dry.

A solid beer, i plan to pick up a whole pack for when i just want to go grab a good stout. (523 characters)

Photo of DavoleBomb
3.04/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a snifter. Bottled November of 2010 (I think).

3.5 A: Dark brown color. One and a half fingers of frothy/creamy light brown head with below average retention and not really any lacing.

4.5 S: Though this isn't a looker, it is a smeller. Lots of sweet chocolate in this with dark caramel malts, blackstrap molasses, a moderate roastiness, and a touch of coffee with cream. Good strength and good harmony between the components.

2.5 T: Many of the things right in the nose are lost in the taste. The first few sips gave a weird sourish lactose taste. That faded after a while, but then an aggressive and harsh roastiness manifested which is reminiscent of astrigency from barrel aging a sour. Surprisingly dry with just a touch of molasses.

2.5 M: Medium body. The carbonation is a bit high, but the problem is that it's aggressively harsh. Could also be creamier.

2.5 T: I can't say I'm a fan of this. The nose is awesome, but that's the only thing that is. The taste is really unbalanced and roast heavy while the mouthfeel is harsh. (1,050 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.06/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This bottle is at least a year or two old, perhaps 2008 vintage; Sampled August 2010
A solid pour into my 25cl tulip glass produces a two-finger thick darkly amber stained head. The beer is a near black color that shows flashes of a brilliantly clear, concentrated ruby when held up to the light. Hmm, the aroma smells quite interesting; there is almost a cheesy, or even rotting fruit like quality to the rich concentrated dark malt aromas of dark chocolate, roasted coffee and darkly toasted whole grain bread crust. The funkiness, when it mixes with the alcohol towards the end, seems to accentuate something that reminds me of rum and spice cake. The nose of this beer is quite funny, not bad by any means, but doesn't seem like this is what the brewer intended.

Somewhat thick as it first hits my tongue, the beer is quite a bit drier than I was expecting and even tastes a bit tart somehow; though it still remains viscous. Ample roasted notes contribute flavors of espresso, bitter dark chocolate and roasted whole grain bread, the dark malt character also contributes notes of salty / smoky malt. The finish has some tartness from overly burnt malt character and also has a fair amount of bitterness from both hops and roasted grain. The tartness overall is just a bit too lactic like to be derived from the grain, and whatever has gotten hold of this beer has stripped it of much of its sweetness.

The flavor is nearly as off as the aroma is, but it is still a touch oddly tart. Not a bad beer in the end, but likely would be much better if there wasn't a bacterial problem (even if it hasn't gotten out of hand yet). It is always a bit surprising when an Imperial Stout goes this far down hill so quickly. (1,717 characters)

Photo of JamesMN
3.08/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

No bottling date or really any info besides the style.

Appearance: Black but lets light through near the bottom of the glass. Looks a bit tepid with a thin tan sudsy head.

Aroma: Coffee, cream, bittersweet chocolate.

Taste: Basically everything described in the aroma combined with a moderate hop bite and grassy hop character. At first it was a bit sweet but the hops and charred malt win over in time giving the bitterness an edge on the sweetness. The finish is a hop kick and the aftertaste is of coffee grounds and light hop bitterness. If this was a regular stout it would be quite robust but for an imperial stout it is lacking some depth of flavor. The 7.5% ABV may be the culprit in that department.

Mouthfeel: Medium in body at best with zealous carbonation. Decent drinkability but was expecting a smoother feel given the style.

Final Thoughts: I have a hard time rating this below average in any category. This is because Satin Solitude is an average imperial stout. While it delivers all the expected flavors of the style, it doesn't do it with the sort of pomp and circumstance that deserves a rating above "okay." Would I drink it again? If I was in the mood for a stout and nothing better was available. (1,224 characters)

Photo of SamuelJackson45
3.13/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Pours a dark black body with a Heavy Tan head and lace.

S- Smell of dark roast coffee notes and heavy burnt malts.

T- Taste of burnt malts and hops and dark robust coffee notes. Hints of molasses and caramel linger in the taste.

M- Syrup thick texture. Lot of burnt taste flavor and hops.

D- Not a fan. To many bad flavors are mix in this.

Cheers... (357 characters)

Photo of brewmudgeon
3.13/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

satin solstice

a 3.5 dark rootbeer, some chunkies hanging around near the bottom. not much of a head and it's gone quick. not much of a ring left, but a little lace hangs on temporarily.

s 3 deeply roasted malt, not much else. kinda subdued.

t 3 doesn't taste all that imperial. could actually pass for one of the roasty porters clogging the shelves. fairly smooth until a touch of puckering astringency in the finish.

m 4 the best part. medium plus body, creamy carbonation.

d 3 competent, but very middle of the road, this one. but if stouts are your thing, probably worth a try. (588 characters)

Photo of Skidz
3.15/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours out a smooth brown brown, finishing jet black with a nice creamy tan head that stands 1 finger tall with nice lacing to boot. Fades as you work youre way down leaving a ring around the side of the glass.

Smells of heavily roasted grains and coffee with sweet chocolate undertones. Tastes strongly of burnt toast and grain, with coffee poking its way through. A bit of sourness makes its way through, mixed together with coffe, its like adding a twist of lemon to your your double expresso. Ends with a nice bitterness, but not without the burnt grains coming back again. The alcohol is pretty easy to taste as it slides across the back of your tongue.

What this beer lacks in taste, it makes up for in mouthfeel. Very smooth and creamy with a nice full body. Not the best beer from CWBC, but it is worth a try. I'm not impressed with the taste, as most people seem to be, I think it's lacking the complexity that a stout should have. If anything, the 7.5%ABV will help you along. (991 characters)

Photo of DarkerTheBetter
3.17/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to objectivemonkey for this one.

Looks a rather boring dark brown that looks like a dull and slightly cloudy root beer when held to the light. The head fell to a slight bubbly collar of tan that left little veins of lace.

Smells of dry, old coffee smoke and chicory. A very monochromatic smell to be sure.

Tastes a little more lively with the same coffee emphasis that is rounded out with a green sappy twig and some green grapes. Finishes off with an almost electric puckering sensation that I can't quite tie down. A RIS? No way.

It's quite crisp and clean that really jolts the sense. The mouth feel really holds this beer together.

If you're a fan of smoke and coffee in your beer, this is a great candidate. For the style, I'd have trouble believing this was an RIS. Most of my negativity in this review stems from comparing this to the more beefy variety of RISs. I quite enjoyed this beer, but it came across much more like a porter. (954 characters)

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Satin Solitude Imperial Stout from Central Waters Brewing Co.
87 out of 100 based on 392 ratings.