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Central Waters / Local Option De Kleine Dood | Central Waters Brewing Co.

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Central Waters / Local Option De Kleine DoodCentral Waters / Local Option De Kleine Dood
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Central Waters Brewing Co.
Wisconsin, United States | website

Style: Weizenbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.05%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
De Kleine Dood is a Belgian inspired Weissenbock brewed as a collaboration between The Local Option and Central Waters Brewery in Amherst, Wisconsin. Originally released in summer 2012, De Kleine Dood will be available in spring 2013 on draft and in large format bottles.

When Central Waters decided to open its brew house for its first collaboration beer, Chicago’s Local Option was the obvious partner in crime. The resulting brainchild, De Kleine Dood - a Belgian inspired Weissenbock – maintains the traditional characteristics of its Bavarian forbearer, with the added complexity of Belgian ale yeast. De Kleine Dood is dark amber in color; maintains a rich, full-bodied mouth-feel augmented by caramel; mild and dark fruit; and vanilla and bourbon aromas as a result of six months of aging on Heaven Hill Barrels.. Rounded out by an unostentatious bourbon driven aroma from brief bourbon barrel aging, De Kleine Dood is a complex ale, a marriage of distinctive styles, and an orgasmic experience for the taste buds that revel in its glory.

Added by MasterSki on 05-25-2012

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Photo of Czequershuus
5/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Updating my rating and adding a review for the current year and new name. This beer pours a deep ruby brow with a small, innocuous head. The aroma offers up a series of sweet but balances odors - raisin, prune, sweet bread, caramel - overall it smells like the best Christmas Pudding you have ever had. The flavor offers up some of the same dark fruits, prune, dried cherry, raisin, fig, as well as clove, mace, cinnamon, nutmeg, banana, sweet autumn squash, toffee, and caramel. The mouthfeel is full but not syrupy, the sweetness it well temper by the gentle carbonation and an almost wine like acidity. Overall this continues to be one of the best barrel aged beers out there, and Central Waters proves again and again that it's barrel aging program is top notch.

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Photo of akeiii
4.91/5  rDev +22.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

I love Belgium style of ales. I also love bourbon barrel aging. This is an excellent example of both. Full taste that feels good in your mouth and looks good. Good head that stays well without being excessive. I was pleasantly surprised to find a brew from a brewing company I hadn't heard of or tried that was this good. I will definitely be looking for more!

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Photo of Pahn
4.77/5  rDev +19%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

On tap at Upright Brew House in Manhattan.

Appearance: Offwhite head with good retention. If this is a weizenbock, its more Aventinus than Vitus.

Smell: Smells exactly like Central Waters Bourbon Barrel Scotch Ale; caramely oak. This is always a "count me in" experience for me.

Taste: Wow, it's like Bourbon County soaked banana bread! Genius! Just genius. Really well bourbon barrel aged moist banana bread with a little raisin thrown in as a highlight and a great mouthfeel. Come the hell on. How am I going to not order more of this?

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied and creamy, low side of moderate carbonation with a nice dry finish that peps up the experience and reminds you that this is a "weizenbock" not a barleywine.

Overall: Fucking bourbon barrel aged banana bread. 5.0.

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Photo of EdwardK77
4.75/5  rDev +18.5%

A- Poured a 22 ounce bomber into a Weizen glass, great head retention over a dark ale. The head maintains a creaminess that is hard to come by.

S- Not sure if otherworldly is a fair term to use in a review (at least not if I want to seem partial, which in this case I don't) but this beer is a 100 in the scent category. Bourbon is perfectly captured in the scent department, with amazing vanilla being the most pronounced. Upon further review I feel like I'm sensing nutmeg and cinammon. (And I have a crap sense of smell)

T- I've enjoyed the benefit of bourbon barrels on stouts before but this may even surpass that. The vanilla and bourbon are amazing in this beer, really nice caramel sweetness as well.

M- Extremely smooth with a nice sticky presence from the caramel and vanilla flavor components. Perfect carbonation is present.

O- This was a sensational beer. The weizenbock is as good or better a way to deliver the bourbon flavors than a stout. I wasn't sure what to expect with this (other than it would be good because Central Waters was involved) but it has exceeded my expectations.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
4.56/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle purchased at Half Time Beverages in Poughkeepsie, New York.

Pours a dark purplish brown, almost black, with a creamy half inch head, and a little bit of lacing.

Smells awesome, sweet bourbon, some honey, coconut, dark fruits (raisins, plums). No real weizenbock aspect to this, smells like a BA Barleywine or BA BSDA.

This tastes divine, but again, it's indistinguishable as a weizenbock. There's a ton of barrel goodness, sweet, sticky, bourbon, dark honey, coconut, vanilla, oak. I get some Belgian yeast character, I think, it tastes a bit estery. There's a lot of dark fruit character going on, plums and raisins. It's also slightly grape flavored as well. There's a lot going on here.

This has a big and syrupy mouthfeel, without being too cloying. It's got a lower amount of carbonation, but remains very drinkable, despite the size and gravity.

This can barely be called a weizenbock, it has none of the characteristics of one. It can be called a great beer, however. It's closer to a barrel-aged Belgian Strong Dark Ale, or a barrel aged barleywine (those two aren't that far from each other, anyway).

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Photo of smakawhat
4.54/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the bottle into a curved wheat ale glass, because we can.

A coffee to light tan creamy head, two fingers and with some good staying power and no lacing. Settles to a half finger puck nicely and good thick collar. Body is a nice mahogany brown, thick looking with great red hues looking toward the bottom.

Fantastic nose. Hints of warm malted candy chocolate, nutty hazelnut like aromas and thick slightly boozy toffee caramel. Thick oak qualities. Slight spicy quality almost herbal as well, like a sharp tea or grass, with some mixing clove. Real nice and impressive.

Palate is real impressive. A great light feel, with a good amount of barrel aged oomph and power. Thick toffee, with spicy notes continuing on the finish, almost peppery and black. Very light quality to this almost a crisp sense of Crispy Crunch chocolate candy bar, mixed in with a nutty nougat softness. Great caramel and nut quality, as time comes there's even an almost Belgian dark raisin character to this. The mouthfeel is more unique, distinct, and impressive, as opposed to perfect, but it is stunning in it's light feel but malt thickness in contradiction.

I really wasn't sure how this would come out for a barrel aged whiskey weizenbock, but it's lightness and thick quality is astounding, with the flavors melding, and tasting unlike anything I have ever had even in this style. An extremely impressive brew.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
4.52/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Pours a very dark brown, appearing pitch black in the glass with a fine one finger light brown head with great retention and lots of lacing. Fine aroma of bourbon, caramel, vanilla, dark malt, dark dried fruit; not getting much wheat here. What an interesting flavor! Starts very much like a bourbon stout, but it quickly becomes clear that the body of this is not dark toasted malt, but lighter wheat. There is not time for for the surprise of the lighter body to register when great bourbon and vanilla flavors beging to dominate the flavor. Finishes with more vanilla, oak and bourbon. A hint of booziness, but enough complexity to cover it. Medium bodied. A complete surprise and not like anything I've tasted before. The depth and strength of the bourbon and barrel flavors seem too much for anything but a rich malt body to cover, but this is wonderfully balanced and somehow the wheat is up to the task. Little bock character here; this seems more like an Imperial hefeweizen (never tried one, but this is what I'd imagine) on bourbon steroids. An amazing production and trying reminds me of the pleasant surprise of trying a bourbon stout for the first time. Excellent and world class. Maybe I'm a sucker for bourbon flavors, but I loved this.

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Photo of SD-Alefan
4.51/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a tulip from the bomber. A nearly opaque and deep brown with hints of ruby when held up to the light. A dense, tan head that leaves lingering lacing down the glass as you sip.
The aroma is a bit winey with some sweet malt, banana, and hints of dark fruit.
The taste changes as the beer warms and you slowly sip. it started out all plum and prune and ripe banana with hints of tobacco and booze and a nice bourbon bite. As it warmed, I got more dark chocolate and coffee and hints of vanilla and allspice.
The mouthfeel is outstanding! Smooth and creamy and luscious. Was not expecting that.
Overall, this concoction has amazing depth and is a real treat. Beautifully done!

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Photo of pat61
4.5/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L: A brilliant chestnut pour with ruby highlights supports a 1” tan foam collar that recedes moderately slow.
S: Mildly roasted dark malts with some chocolate notes, mild bourbon.
T: The bourbon and chocolate are expressed more strongly on the palate than on the nose. The bourbon and chocolate and bourbon move over the tongue in layers with a mild coffee and moderate sweetness in the background.
F: Very creamy and smooth with mild warming. Medium full body with very fine soft carbonation.
O: A beer to accompany country style ribs with a coffee rub or some chocolate after dinner.

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Photo of mnredsoxfan69
4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

A high alcohol dive into a maelstrom of coconut, raisins, bourbon and other dark fruits. Truly an amazing brew which must be experienced. Sip, do not chug. Savor it, do not merely knock it back and your palate shall be richly rewarded beyond your wildest dreams.

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Photo of whataschlitz
4.47/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours deep burgundy/brown. Not fully opaque. Light brown head faded fairly quickly.

S: Smells like barrel and toffee. Strong malt.

T: Malty. Bourbon hits the palate first, then faint coffee, and rounds out with malt and toffee.

M: Silky smooth. Very nice in that regard. Very drinkable even with the higher alcohol.

O: A tasty aged beer that benefits from the added flavor of the barrel. Delicious maltiness.

Notes: If you're in WI, check out your local Costco for bombers of this delicious beer.

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Photo of 4DAloveofSTOUT
4.45/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

poured into tulip glass.

Appearance: murky brown bodied beer with a red hue. 1 finger of an off white head. spotty lace.

Smell: bourbon, coconuts, bananas, cinnamon, chocolate, and a hint of spice.

Taste: bourbon forward, but it remains a mellow flovor. Vanilla and Chocolate. Little spice in the finish. Tobacco, cola and a hint of bananas in the aftertaste that makes your mouth water!

Mouthfeel: low end of a medium bodied beer with low end of moderate carbonation. Smooth beer with a touch of warmth. Cant beleive this is a 9% Wiezinbock.

Overall: this is 1414 without being a big stout, just a different beer style. Its an under the radar brew for sure! The barrel notes on this beer are fantastic; they are almost identical to 1414. I cant imagine this is a beer that's is to style, but it just does not matter. its a wonderful beer! Its is honestly a pleasant surprise! Top notch Job on this beer Central Waters!

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Photo of stortore
4.44/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bottle split between a flute glass and a weizen glass.

Murky, mostly opaque dark pour. Medium, creamy looking head, some cling. Smell is bourbon, malt, oak, vanilla, some caramel. Nice. Taste is a bit more malt than the nose, same for the vanilla and caramel. Still a strong bourbon presence, some oak. Slightly boozy. Smooth, a little creamy. Good level of carbonation. Seems a touch thin, maybe because of the bourbon overpowering the style.

Have had a few bottles of this, think it's a great beer. It may not necessarily seem like a Weizenbock, but it's a damn fine beer. Great effort from the creators.

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Photo of tigerbeer90
4.44/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Bottle into a Allagash chalice

A: Brown with some red when the light hits it. Some murkiness with a small off-white head

S: Bourbon...a bourbon smell like I get off a fresh Founders BB. I guess instead of stating the obvious, I will break it down to vanilla, dark fruits, and a mild tinge of alcohol which was not off-putting at all.

T: Up front I get a LOT of the bourbon taste. I really love BA beers, but I feel a slightly less amount of bourbon would help bring out the weizenbock base. I get some of the fruitiness, but I really wish there was a bit more balance there.

M: A light mouthfeel for such a bourbon forward beer. A great summertime BA beer

O: Aside from being a bit bourbon heavy, I will say I love bourbon aged beers and this is an excellent beer! This is my first from central waters and local option, and I've heard great things about Central water's barrel-aged beers and I can't wait to try more of theirs!

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Photo of Fcolle2
4.43/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: the wheat adds a good cloudy characteristic that pours deep brown with a nice tan head that has good retention.

S: lots of sweet Carmel malts. Oak is faint but present, not a whole lot of bourbon but it adds a nice bite to balance out the profound sweet malts.

T: oak is present upfront but fades into the sweet rich Carmel malts. There's a creamy note to it that reminds me of a malt ball. Ends in a slight bitterness that adds a nice crisp finish.

M: flavor is rich but feel is light. Has a sticky feel even though though its not thick.

O: reminds of a taffy apple. Sweet camel malts with a crisp fruity feel.

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Photo of Duff27
4.42/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dense light tan one inch head on a dark brown/black body. Clumpy lacing and a cap and collar to boot.

Smells amazing. If you've had 1414, the aroma is near identical...boozy, bourbony, delicious.

Bourbon-forward for sure. Sweet. Easy drinking at 9%....???? Kind of a muddled finish, slight bananas integrates with the barrel aging.

Thin mouthfeel for a BA beer, average for the base style. Good carbonation.

Only drawback that I could come up with is the muddled finish but what the hell, this is awesome. All the best parts of 1414 but easier drinking. Wow. Thanks 4DAloveofSTOUT!

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Photo of Mscarpen
4.42/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Picked this one up at the CW Brewery in Amherst.

Pours a cloudy deep amber with minimal Lacing and less than an eight of an inch of head.

Bourbon notes of vanilla and caramel but not to heavy on the high notes. Very indicative of the nose on other CW BA beers. Sweet dark fruits as well.

I'm not familiar with style of beer, but it comes across, to me, as a mix between a Barleywine and an Old Ale. Low hops, very sweet, a tinge of bottle on the middle of the tongue them quickly fades. Bourbon is predominant but not overwhelming.

Medium mouthfeel and not overwealingly syrupy.

Overall, a great BA beer from Central Waters. Glad I picked up a few.

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Photo of Jparker37
4.41/5  rDev +10%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

1pt 6oz bottle poured into a Weizen glass.

A - Dark brown with extreme cloudiness+++. Medium tan head falls to a small cap. No lacing.

S - Smooth vanilla boozy notes. Mild banana esters. Smokey phenols. Plenty of barrel qualities. Red fruit shows up as it warms.

T - Layers of rich smooth chocolate and caramel malts. Wheat quality midway falls to the boozy mellow cigar/vanilla flavors. Leaves pretty dry with a pleasurable alcohol warmth.

M - Super creamy, medium-full bodied, semi-sweet, medium carbonation.

O - All signs point to a great Weizenbock previous to the barrel, the bourbon barrel adds tremendous depth. Great look to this, aroma only teases more. Flavor features so many great dimensions, all working great. The perfect body is a bonus.

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Photo of ThickNStout
4.4/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

22oz bottle from LambicPentameter (thanks man!). No bottling date but this has rested in my cellar for a year since I received it. Served in a Barrel and Barley teku.

Pours a deep but brilliant, nearly opaque burgundy with just under two fingers ecrue head. Once the foam subsides a full collar remains, leaving only a couple tiny splotches of lace.

Aromas of bourbon, toffee, caramel, bread and oak. Sweet and welcoming.

Flavor expounds upon that inviting nose. Bourbon, caramel, wet oak, toffee, hints of stone fruit, wheat bread, vanilla, sweet wheat malt, fruity yeast, cereal grain and a subtle booze heat. It all blends oh, so smoothly to create a delicious, enjoyable, malty sweet treat.

Creamy, medium full body with moderate carbonation. Bourbon, toffee, seared caramel and vanilla coat the tongue for a long, sweet finish.

Much to my delight, La Petite Mort combines weizenbock, Belgian yeast and bourbon barreling to produce a something very much like my favorite wheatwines. This is one of those rare collaborations that is truly outstanding and is worthy of a little effort to track down.

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Photo of dar482
4.39/5  rDev +9.5%

The beer comes in a dark rusty cooper color.

The aroma has a punch of sweet bourbon and oak. Vanilla, toffee, caramel, along with dark fruits and a hint of over ripe banana.

The flavor pops of bourbon up front. Oak throughout that lingers on the back end. A spike of alcohol, but in a positive way. On the back end, coconut and vanilla finish off the beer. A touch of caramel sweetness in the back.

In general, the beer just exemplifies bourbon barrel aging as it hits its notes subtlety and beautifully. The beer tastes more towards a strong ale or American barleywine in the base, but it still does not stand much in the way of the barrel expression.

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Photo of Jimmys
4.39/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

bomber into snifter. what I assume is a 2013 vintage. very interested to try this as it is a first for me (bourbon barrel aged weizenbocks that is).

A: pours a muddy dark burgundy/brownish hue. opaque and dark. head is slightly off-white, slightly brownish. big bubbles. head is rimmy. retention is lacking (perhaps my glass...).

S: definitely get some solid oak aroma, not necessarily a ton of bourbon. at first. more and more bourbon comes out as the drink goes down. a lot of dark, ripe fruit. rich. reminds me of a English barleywine more than a BB aged weizenbock. very rich and appealing.

T: a fantastic caramel/toffee/candied fruit/plum/everything rich flavor starts things off. reminds me of a nice tawny port. getting a little bit of chewy wheat out of this, but not a ton. finish is has a touch of bourbon heat, but very limited. woody. nutty too. great complexity.

M: carb is mellow. tickling even. full bodied drink.

D: this thing tastes more like a big bourbon barrel aged quad or dubbel than a weizenbock. certainly everything works well here, however I am struggling to find wheat bock flavors and aromas. regardless a great sipper and a great way to step outside the normal box from central waters. I applaud the courage and I thoroughly enjoyed this beer, regardless of style guidelines.

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4.34/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

2013 bottle, opened Feb 2014.

A - Beautiful deep mahogany body with ruby highlights. Bone-white head pours thin with low retention and lace.

S - Fantastic nose. Chestnut, molasses, bananas, brown sugar, cherry cordial chocolates, touch of cognac, and caramel.

T - Lightly burnt fudge brownies, touch of cinnamon and nutmeg, and loaded with smooth, rich hazelnuts.

M - Thin, medium-light frame with a light boozy astringency.

O - Really nice, complex profile. Lighter than expected. Drinks a little like a brown-ale / barleywine hybrid.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4.32/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer pours a dense hazy milk chocolate body with a thin wisp of tan head and some microbubbles that glide to the surface.

S- The sweet rich blend of dark caramel malts and big fresh barrel aromas lead to a brown sugar note and grape seed hints in the finish.

T- The rich vanilla oak and bread crust flavors blend with dark sweet malts and paper straws with some spicy cinnamon phenolics in the finish. There is a sweetness in the finish that is cut by the alcohol spice.

M- The medium-light mouthfeel has a nice alcohol warmth in the finish.

O- The big wonderful barrel flavor is complimented by sweet dark toasted malts and caramel malt character. A classic pairing.

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4.32/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

22oz, Winter '13
Riedel tulip

A: Pours a murky brown color. Not as thick as I would have though. Some light gets through. Not a lot of head. Basically only a collar of off white/almost tan head. Seems like there is carbonation though.

S: Getting a lot of that bourbon right away. Vanilla and toffee. Sweet maltiness. Smells tasty.

T: Sweet toffee and vanilla goodness. You get those nice flavors from the front if the tongue to the mid-palate. What I love, it's not a huge barleywine or stout and packs this much flavor. Nice lighter body. Finish is long with lingering toffee/vanilla notes.

M: It's a big medium to full bodied beer. Style helps with thinner mouth.

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4.3/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

poured from bottle to tulip glass.

Look: dark brown pour, thin head that disappeared quickly. clear, but dark.

Smell: The barrel dominates the nose. Smelling toffee notes, and for some reason, I'm detecting cherries (?).

Taste: smooth, smoky, sweet, a little sweet, whiskey flavors woven throughout. Very well rounded flavor profile.

Feel: Not much weight to this one, but it's actually refreshing to drink a barrel aged beer that isnt super thick.

Overall: Very good beer. Very well rounded beer. Was surprisingly delicious, especially considering the price.

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Central Waters / Local Option De Kleine Dood from Central Waters Brewing Co.
89 out of 100 based on 100 ratings.