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Central Waters / Local Option De Kleine Dood - Central Waters Brewing Co.

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Reviews: 92
Hads: 621
Avg: 3.99
pDev: 29.82%
Wants: 57
Gots: 150 | FT: 11
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Central Waters Brewing Co.
Wisconsin, United States | website

Style | ABV
Weizenbock | 9.05% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 05-25-2012

De Kleine Dood is a Belgian inspired Weissenbock brewed as a collaboration between The Local Option and Central Waters Brewery in Amherst, Wisconsin. Originally released in summer 2012, De Kleine Dood will be available in spring 2013 on draft and in large format bottles.

When Central Waters decided to open its brew house for its first collaboration beer, Chicago’s Local Option was the obvious partner in crime. The resulting brainchild, De Kleine Dood - a Belgian inspired Weissenbock – maintains the traditional characteristics of its Bavarian forbearer, with the added complexity of Belgian ale yeast. De Kleine Dood is dark amber in color; maintains a rich, full-bodied mouth-feel augmented by caramel; mild and dark fruit; and vanilla and bourbon aromas as a result of six months of aging on Heaven Hill Barrels.. Rounded out by an unostentatious bourbon driven aroma from brief bourbon barrel aging, De Kleine Dood is a complex ale, a marriage of distinctive styles, and an orgasmic experience for the taste buds that revel in its glory.
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Photo of infinitebruner
4.12/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

September 27, 2014

22 oz bottle, cylindrical glass from someone's cabinet

A – Poured dark brown with a thin tan head, dissipating rather quickly. A lot of amber highlights.

S – A lot of vanilla and oak, followed by moderate malty sweetness. Caramel, toffee, and molasses. Bourbon does not manifest itself as alcohol burn.

T – Rich, sweet chocolate and deep vanilla, with bittersweet chocolate coming in next. Some bitterness on the finish.

M – Somewhat thin mouthfeel, mostly due to the alcohol. A lot of residual sweetness, but not out of balance.

O – I have had this on my list of beers to try for a long time, and wish I’d gotten around to it sooner. A lot of the character of a traditional doppelbock (maybe it should be called La Petite Mortinator), with the barrel aging adding some rich flavors to it. Really good stuff.

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Photo of TheDDO
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Poured this beer from a bomber into a tulip glass.

A- Beer pours brown, like you dipped your glass in a mud puddle with a 1/2 to 1 finger white cream head. The head of this beer dissipates quickly leaving a ring that hugs the glass.

S- Right off the get go, the bourbon is present. There is a hint of tart cherry and dark fruit that comes to the forefront. A bit of coconut. Looking forward to a taste!

T- The taste is great. Bourbon up front with some dark fruit, bourbon, banana and you guessed it.... Bourbon. Central Waters has quite the sipping beer here. The taste of this beer really improves as it is warmed. Delicious, I like it!

M- As this beer is sipped, it goes down great. Velvety smooth, provides a coating in the mouth that allows the flavor of this beer to linger.

O- On a crisp, cool Midwest evening, this beer is perfect. Don't rush into drinking this one. Open a bottle, share with a buddy and enjoy! I am going to let one age a bit to see how the flavors in this beer develop over time.

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Photo of Georgiabeer
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Lots of Bourbon here, both in the aroma and in the taste, but it plays well with the base beer, echoing its richness, vanilla notes, and restrained sweetness. A sipper for sure, but one that keeps drawing you on. Very nice to find this locally because of the Local Option connection.

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Photo of SD-Alefan
4.51/5  rDev +13%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a tulip from the bomber. A nearly opaque and deep brown with hints of ruby when held up to the light. A dense, tan head that leaves lingering lacing down the glass as you sip.
The aroma is a bit winey with some sweet malt, banana, and hints of dark fruit.
The taste changes as the beer warms and you slowly sip. it started out all plum and prune and ripe banana with hints of tobacco and booze and a nice bourbon bite. As it warmed, I got more dark chocolate and coffee and hints of vanilla.
The mouthfeel is outstanding! Smooth and creamy and luscious. Was not expecting that.
Overall, this concoction has amazing depth and is a real treat. Beautifully done!

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Photo of LambicPentameter
4.05/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed out of a 22 oz brown bomber with no dating that I can seem to find, but I am fairly certain this is the 2014 release of the beer. Poured into a Weihenstephaner weizen glass.

Appearance (3.75) - Pours a really dark umber brown that when, when the light isn't passing through, looks almost black, like a dark walnut wood finish. At the edges, where the light does break through, it takes on a burnt umber, almost chestnut hue, but extremely faint. Atop the body sits a disappointingly small cap--only about a half finger thick--the color of toasted marshmallow.

Smell (4.25) - This is where this beer really shines, with the notes of vanilla, oak and slight bourbon caramel working quite well with the estery element of the yeast that imparts traditional notes of clove and faint banana, as well as some dark fruits--maybe fig?

Taste (4.00) - The taste takes a small step back from the deliciously rich aroma, but it still quite good. Again, there are veins of vanilla and oak, and now an even sweeter component that brings to mind maple syrup--a little unexpected when thinking about the combination of weizenbock and bourbon barrel aging on their own, but perhaps a result of the two flavor profiles combining to make something completely new. There is a generous malt backbone here, with detectible elements of wheat and buckwheat giving just enough offset to the sweetness to prevent it from overpowering. As with the smell, clove and banana esters are again present, but in the background, so as not to overpower.

Mouthfeel (4.0) - Medium-bodied, with lighter-than-expected carbonation, especially for the style. I suppose that's a result of the barrel aging, but it does feel like there's something slightly missing when considering the style. That said, if you think about it as the style being "barrel aged", it becomes a little less incongruous with expectations.

Overall (4.0), a nice execution of a style that seems to take pretty well to bourbon barrel aging. Weizenbocks already have some pleasant sweetness naturally, so the complement of the oak and the contrast of the residual spirits from the barrel both work quite well. I'll definitely be buying more of this since it just seems to sit around on shelves in my neck of the woods.

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Photo of Bitterbill
4.2/5  rDev +5.3%

A pitch black pour with a 1 finger head of tannish foam.

Big notes of bourbon in the smell with some roasted malt, chocolate, vanilla. A lot going on.

Bourbon up front in the taste but there's a milkshake like sweetness here that I find welcoming to take my taste buds' "mind" off the bourbon.

I'd call it full bodied.

A big and warming brew. This is very good.

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Photo of Dope
4.1/5  rDev +2.8%

No date that I can see, but this just hit the stores about a month ago.

A: Dark brown pour with a very and effervescent light brown head. Very fine air bubbles in there, giving it a dense appearance. Top-notch head retention but no sign of lacing.

S: Lots of caramel up front from the bourbon. Pure caramel really. Light cocoa and earthy spices with a hint of breadiness. But pretty much a caramel bomb initially. Light dark fruits when swirled.

T: Yup. Lots of caramel up front but heavy toffee and super heavy breadiness to boot. Malty as hell. Quite a bit of oak everywhere. Earth and cocoa in the finish. Lots of cocoa with light oak and caramel lingering between sips. Kind of a pervading earthiness covers everything - probably part of the yeast used I'm guessing.

M: Thick, heavy, lower carbonation. Feels 10x heavier than it actually is. I think they used a lead malt bill in this one.

O: Hell of a weizenbock. Malty to the extremely. Like drinking liquid bread mixed with caramel and served in an oaken drinking vessel. Almost too much at times; definitely a sipper. But great strength of flavors, great complexity, and well executed. Perfect fireside drink for a snowstorm (though it is still in the 80s here).

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Photo of EdwardK77
4.75/5  rDev +19%

A- Poured a 22 ounce bomber into a Weizen glass, great head retention over a dark ale. The head maintains a creaminess that is hard to come by.

S- Not sure if otherworldly is a fair term to use in a review (at least not if I want to seem partial, which in this case I don't) but this beer is a 100 in the scent category. Bourbon is perfectly captured in the scent department, with amazing vanilla being the most pronounced. Upon further review I feel like I'm sensing nutmeg and cinammon. (And I have a crap sense of smell)

T- I've enjoyed the benefit of bourbon barrels on stouts before but this may even surpass that. The vanilla and bourbon are amazing in this beer, really nice caramel sweetness as well.

M- Extremely smooth with a nice sticky presence from the caramel and vanilla flavor components. Perfect carbonation is present.

O- This was a sensational beer. The weizenbock is as good or better a way to deliver the bourbon flavors than a stout. I wasn't sure what to expect with this (other than it would be good because Central Waters was involved) but it has exceeded my expectations.

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Photo of mnredsoxfan69
4.5/5  rDev +12.8%

A high alcohol dive into a maelstrom of coconut, raisins, bourbon and other dark fruits. Truly an amazing brew which must be experienced. Sip, do not chug. Savor it, do not merely knock it back and your palate shall be richly rewarded beyond your wildest dreams.

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Photo of ronricorossi
4/5  rDev +0.3%

Bottle purchased from The Good Hop, the new bottle shop/tap room sprouted up in Uptown Oakland.

Two qualities I prize in beers: malty sweetness, and bourbon barrel aging. They often go hand in hand (thank god), and La Petite Mort is no exception. Is it SO good as to merit its name, which is a euphemism for "orgasm" in French? I don't know, man, I don't know. It takes some balls to call your beer "orgasm". But it's damn good.

As has been mentioned by other reviews, how often do you see a weizenbock bourbon barrel aged? Or ANY style outside porter, stout, or quad? I applaud the idea, and the sweet weizenbock flavors sit comfortably on the BBA notes, all those sweet German dark purple fruits mixing really well with the vanilla and bourbon.

Is it perfect? Nah. But it's a damn good idea, and an interesting experiment. Well worth a try.

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Photo of Bosoxfan20
3.27/5  rDev -18%

Dark brown bark color with fair amount of light coming through. Faint, wispy head that settles into a ring quickly. 3.5

Lots of bourbon coming through, huge baverian malts, caramel, and toasted character. You have my interest…3.75

Intense bourbon paves the way for a mix of bready, malty notes with caramel and vanilla. The darker fruit from the Belgian aspects make for an interesting twist. 3.25

Soft and creamy. Lighter body resembling the weissenbock . Low carbonation 3.5

Unique to say the least. Some of it worked, but at times it seemed off. 3.25

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Photo of avalon07
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

A: Poured from a bottle to a weizen glass. Had a dark brown color and a thick consistency. There was a two inch, creamy, off white, long-lasting head. Pretty good lacing.

S: A strong aroma of bourbon, wheat, and dark fruit.

T: Tasted of light wheat notes, a lot of bourbon, dark fruit (plums?), malt, and a hint of vanilla. Not your typical weizenbock flavor, but very robust and flavorful. The wheat element takes a secondary role to the bourbon, but that's a good thing.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a sharp finish. Medium-bodied.

O: An unusual beer. How often do you hear of a German-style beer being bourbon barrel aged? very complex and definitely drinkable.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.92/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

650 mL bottle pourd into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

Appearance - Deep reddish brown. Khaki head. Medium collar. Faint surface wisps.

Smell - Bourbon and tons of vanilla. Sweet caramel. I may be imagining a slight bubble gummy aroma.

Taste - Bourbon is nice. Vanilla as well. Caramel gets just a touch of wheat and darker chocolate malts. Slightly fruity. Very dry, unpleasantly so.

Mouthfeel - Rough finish. Very dry and slightly boozy. Everything else works.

Overall - Flavors are nice, despite the finish. Quite a bit of barrel.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
4.52/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Pours a very dark brown, appearing pitch black in the glass with a fine one finger light brown head with great retention and lots of lacing. Fine aroma of bourbon, caramel, vanilla, dark malt, dark dried fruit; not getting much wheat here. What an interesting flavor! Starts very much like a bourbon stout, but it quickly becomes clear that the body of this is not dark toasted malt, but lighter wheat. There is not time for for the surprise of the lighter body to register when great bourbon and vanilla flavors beging to dominate the flavor. Finishes with more vanilla, oak and bourbon. A hint of booziness, but enough complexity to cover it. Medium bodied. A complete surprise and not like anything I've tasted before. The depth and strength of the bourbon and barrel flavors seem too much for anything but a rich malt body to cover, but this is wonderfully balanced and somehow the wheat is up to the task. Little bock character here; this seems more like an Imperial hefeweizen (never tried one, but this is what I'd imagine) on bourbon steroids. An amazing production and trying reminds me of the pleasant surprise of trying a bourbon stout for the first time. Excellent and world class. Maybe I'm a sucker for bourbon flavors, but I loved this.

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Photo of clayrock81
4.03/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured a dark brown body with one finger head that stuck around forever in lace ring form. Aroma is bourbon/boozy, dark fruits like black cherry and figs. Smooth, crisp carbonation, fuller body from yeast, also has a creaminess to it and there is some nice sweetness to beer comprised of vanilla, toffee, fig, caramel. Good balance as the dark fruits (black cherry, figs, possible raisins) balance with malty sweetness, woodiness and slight booziness. Finishes slick and easy and hides the alcohol real well. More sweet than I thought a dopple could be and really works.

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Photo of notchucknorris
3.52/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a dark caramel brown color with a quickly receding khaki colored head.

S: Lots of sweet bourbon notes right away. Caramel, vanilla and some wet oak. I'm really not getting much beyond that, though. Maybe a little bit of hazelnut.

T: Lots and lots of bourbon without really becoming too hot. Beyond that though, I'm really not getting much here at all. A little bit of toasted walnut, oak, caramel, brown sugar and just a hint of dryness, but I'm thinking that all that is from the bourbon. The mouthfeel is really, really weak. The bourbon walks all over the beer here. It's not a bad beer, but I wouldnt go for this again.

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Photo of metter98
4.16/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is hazy ver dark brown in color. It poured with a short beige colored head that died down, leaving large wisps of bubbles on the surface and a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Moderate to strong aromas of bourbon are present in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, the taste is filled with flavors of bourbon and has lots of associated vanilla.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation. No warming from the alcohol is perceptible.
O: The wheat body of this beer makes it very easy to drink for a bourbon barrel aged beer. You can't tell that the underlying beer is a weizenbock. Although the bourbon is quite strong, it doesn't burn your mouth.

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Photo of ksimons
4.05/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-a dark chestnut with a thin layer of khaki head

S-the smell is very nice, lots of bourbon sweetness, vanilla, caramel and even a bit of chocolate

T-taste is similar to the smell, starts and finishes with a bourbon bite, with vanilla and caramel, some dark fruits, and yeast

M-medium body, medium to high carbonation, bourbon sweetness finish

Overall very strong bourbon flavor, nice medium body. Have not been disappointed by Central Waters yet.

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Photo of SportsandJorts
3.34/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Appearance: pours a dark mahogany color almost black. a finger and a half of a tan head that sticks around forever and leaves a strong sticky lacing. Completely opaque and dark

Smell: strong bourbon, mixed with vanilla and hints of toffee. some clove-like aromas along with an estery alcohol.

Taste: opens with strong tastes of bourbon, vanilla, and oak. transitions into a mess of sweetness, with toffee, dark chocolate and some dark fruit. ends with a clove taste. little to no alcohol in the taste

Mouthfeel: cloyingly sweet but also dry.

Overall: I got this thinking it might be a good base beer to let the bourbon shine and add some complexity, but to me it comes of overly sweet and a mess of similar tastes.

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Photo of tigerbeer90
4.44/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Bottle into a Allagash chalice

A: Brown with some red when the light hits it. Some murkiness with a small off-white head

S: Bourbon...a bourbon smell like I get off a fresh Founders BB. I guess instead of stating the obvious, I will break it down to vanilla, dark fruits, and a mild tinge of alcohol which was not off-putting at all.

T: Up front I get a LOT of the bourbon taste. I really love BA beers, but I feel a slightly less amount of bourbon would help bring out the weizenbock base. I get some of the fruitiness, but I really wish there was a bit more balance there.

M: A light mouthfeel for such a bourbon forward beer. A great summertime BA beer

O: Aside from being a bit bourbon heavy, I will say I love bourbon aged beers and this is an excellent beer! This is my first from central waters and local option, and I've heard great things about Central water's barrel-aged beers and I can't wait to try more of theirs!

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Photo of akeiii
4.91/5  rDev +23.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

I love Belgium style of ales. I also love bourbon barrel aging. This is an excellent example of both. Full taste that feels good in your mouth and looks good. Good head that stays well without being excessive. I was pleasantly surprised to find a brew from a brewing company I hadn't heard of or tried that was this good. I will definitely be looking for more!

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Photo of smakawhat
4.54/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the bottle into a curved wheat ale glass, because we can.

A coffee to light tan creamy head, two fingers and with some good staying power and no lacing. Settles to a half finger puck nicely and good thick collar. Body is a nice mahogany brown, thick looking with great red hues looking toward the bottom.

Fantastic nose. Hints of warm malted candy chocolate, nutty hazelnut like aromas and thick slightly boozy toffee caramel. Thick oak qualities. Slight spicy quality almost herbal as well, like a sharp tea or grass, with some mixing clove. Real nice and impressive.

Palate is real impressive. A great light feel, with a good amount of barrel aged oomph and power. Thick toffee, with spicy notes continuing on the finish, almost peppery and black. Very light quality to this almost a crisp sense of Crispy Crunch chocolate candy bar, mixed in with a nutty nougat softness. Great caramel and nut quality, as time comes there's even an almost Belgian dark raisin character to this. The mouthfeel is more unique, distinct, and impressive, as opposed to perfect, but it is stunning in it's light feel but malt thickness in contradiction.

I really wasn't sure how this would come out for a barrel aged whiskey weizenbock, but it's lightness and thick quality is astounding, with the flavors melding, and tasting unlike anything I have ever had even in this style. An extremely impressive brew.

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Photo of d5001986
3.97/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bomber poured into Duvel tulip.

A: Pours a dark, murky brown with small tan head.

S: Bourbon, caramel, vanilla, and brown sugar.

T: Bourbon, caramel, vanilla, metallic, and lightly buttery.

M: Medium body, higher carbonation. Provides a slight spicy burn. Not quite the smooth feel I get from the BA offerings.

O: I can't say I've ever disliked a BA offering from CW. Very good for the style, though I would still prefer a good BA stout or scotch ale. In the end, the price is right and absolutely worth the purchase.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.01/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A strong bourbon-barrel influence with a malty-sweet backbone ensures a masculine but whimsical taste that come together in the most enticing but unusual way. its delivery isn't exactly what's promised. It might just be better.

As its lavish sweetness layers upon the palate, waves of caramel, toffee, maple and vanilla meet that of sorghum, honey and faint chocolate- all ahead of a playful oak, fruit and spice undertow.

And as the highly complex taste rolls over the middle, it sheds its finesse banana, clove and vinous character and fixates on bourbon sweetness, wood caramels, vanillans, oak tannin and coffee. With any hop balance in far recession, the beer relies heavily on its sheer complexity and power for balance.

its lightly viscous finish makes this potent ale a sipping elixir rather than a "drinkable" ale. Meant to contend with port, sherry and madera, the taste and potency of a Petite Mort ensures a long, spicy, and savory finish that clings to the taste buds in strong dessert-like fashion.

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Photo of mjpolzin
4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I already am of the opinion that Central Waters has one of the finest barrel aging program in the world. This beer did nothing to change my opinion.

I am not the biggest fan of Belgian beers so I can't say that I loved this beer. The barrel-aging flavor though that Central Waters has perfected is outstanding and seemingly turns just about any regular beer into a bourbon forward masterpiece.

La Petite Morte is very bourbon heavy and possibly masks some of the other flavors that are there but with me, that is okay. The bourbon and wood flavors are very well integrated with Central Waters beers and I haven't really come across one of their beers in which that doesn't work. Beyond that, this beer has a decent mix of candy, sugar and malts. As I said, I am not a huge fan of this style but the barrel aging of Central Waters makes this a beer that I will seek out again.

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Central Waters / Local Option De Kleine Dood from Central Waters Brewing Co.
89 out of 100 based on 92 ratings.