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International Arms Race - Flying Dog Brewery

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International Arms RaceInternational Arms Race

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BA SCORE
73
okay

102 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 102
Reviews: 32
rAvg: 3.12
pDev: 23.4%
Wants: 8
Gots: 12 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Flying Dog Brewery visit their website
Maryland, United States

Style | ABV
Scottish Gruit / Ancient Herbed Ale |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: jazzyjeff13 on 09-09-2012)
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Reviews by jtierney89:
Photo of jtierney89
1.65/5  rDev -47.1%
look: 1.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Hazy bronze color. Sweet scent, caramel, with a bit of popuri. Fairly light body with a sweet malt profile, honey and caramel with a spicy finish. Cinnamon is definitely there.
Light sweet with funky belgian-like flavors. Sweetness lingers and kinda covers up the spicy finish that hits the back end of the tongue. Piney earthy and flowery but only for a moment.

In no way did the beer remind me of an IPA at all and even as a scottish gruit it didnt have the balance that a good one should have in the form of the herb and malt mixture. Not a fan. Drinkable but thats about it.

jtierney89, Nov 09, 2012
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csmartin6, Nov 27, 2012
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iemailjack, Jan 09, 2013
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3.08/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A 355ml bottle with a BB of June 2013. Purchased recently from Trembling Madness in York. Described on the label as a 'zero-IBU IPA', a spiced ale brewed without hops. This is the result of a collaboration with Brewdog - both breweries vied to create a hopless IPA. I've already tried the Brewdog version, which was OK, so I'm looking forward to seeing how this one stands up.

Poured into a Delirium chalice. A hazy reddish-amber hue with strong carbonation. Lots of large floating chunks in the body of the beer; doesn't look like typical yeast to me. Perhaps coagulated protein? At any rate, not very nice. Forms a decent head of white foam which subsides and disappears almost immediately. An intensely herbal, spicy aroma with notes of bay leaves, juniper, orange peel and a hint of rosemary or thyme. Faint caramel malt lurks in the background, along with a stewed leaf character. Slightly sweet, with a quality almost like marmalade. Interesting though a bit harsh.

Tastes of bitter aromatic herbs with a dry, acrid finish. Notes of stewed herbs: bay leaves, juniper, rosemary, orange peel and maybe coriander. Hints of oily citrus peel and faint caramel in the background, along with a whisper of earthy yeast. A bone-dry bitterness upon swallowing. Mouthfeel is dry and highly astringent, with tingly carbonation and a spicy quality on the palate. Body is rather thin and insubstantial. Scours the inside of your mouth. Aftertaste of bitter aromatic herbs and orange peel.

Not a success - herbal overkill. Harsh and very bitter, with excessive dryness. The malt simply doesn't stand up to the amount of herbs that have been added, resulting in a highly unbalanced flavour and a thin, watery body. Not sure what's up with the floaties in this bottle, but they don't add any appeal either (bad handling/storage?). The aroma is the best feature - taken on its own it's quite nice. This beer certainly has character, but it would be improved immensely by boosting the malt and/or toning down the herbal additions. In my opinion this is worse than Brewdog's attempt, which was a bit insipid but more balanced and drinkable (ironically the bar competition they ran saw FD's version win out - perhaps it was better on tap). I'm not loving this; bring back the hops! Not recommended.

jazzyjeff13, Sep 10, 2012
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3.25/5  rDev +4.2%

SPRichard, Nov 05, 2012
Photo of ianjsullivan
3.93/5  rDev +26%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

ST: 12oz poured into a pint glass.

A: It looks like dark, hazy cider. An orange tint is visible in light, as are the bubbles of gently rising carbonation.

S: Spicy spruce, heather, woody, earthy, and herbaceous, Arms has a fantastic aroma.

T: Spruce, heather, biscuit, sour, spicy, earthy, woody finish. This beer is like drinking a forest. It has some things in common with some Christmas seasonals, but it is different enough that it cannot be shoved into that generic category.

M: Medium and sweet

O: This is a beer that everyone should at least try once. It has an interesting aroma and taste profile. If you are not into woody, earthy, herbaceous beers, you will not like Arms. If you would like an example of what older beers most likely tasted like, try this beer. The finish is sour and spicy in a very different way from hops. If you want a beer that produces IPA bitterness using other ingredients, you will not find that here.

ianjsullivan, Oct 21, 2012
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Griffith, Jan 18, 2014
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4.2/5  rDev +34.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A finger of whitish head that recedes into some decent surface retention. Color is a hazy amber (I agitated the sediment deliberately, so sue me). Only a bit of lace, and I've been trying to make sure my glasses are extra-clean lately.

Nose brings the German prefix "kräuter-" to mind; closest translation is "herbal". Kinda like a Ricola but less sweet, if that helps. Definitely a positive.

Dang, this is pretty darn good. Not overwhelming, but a great balanced herbal palate that again, is kinda reminiscent of Ricola in the best possible way. Not particularly bitter, but the aftertaste is slightly leafy and mentholic. I wouldn't guess it was 7.5%, and I could definitely drink several of these; I'm regretting having bought only one (seemed like a gimmick and I don't usually care for IPAs anyway).

Good feel if a bit coarse, but no complaints.

Well this is neat, and I like it a lot, but the BA style categorization is correct (gruit) rather than any kind of IPA. And if you're still reading this, I recommend agitating the sediment before pouring.

zaphodchak, Nov 25, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev +12.2%

let8it8grow, Nov 10, 2012
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2.75/5  rDev -11.9%

DaGrizz, Nov 30, 2012
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3/5  rDev -3.8%

aztraz, Oct 03, 2012
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3.4/5  rDev +9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This is my 411 review on this site, fitting it would be such a weird brew.
Usually when I look at IPAs, I'm going for higher ibu numbers, still the idea of trying an ipa with a no ibu number was irresistible in a sort of taste sadistic manner. Smell is kind of like some kind of fruit punch. Taste is medicinal , almost earthy with alot of spices. Color is sort of red. The big mystery of this is how they can call it an ipa at all, as it isn't pale, it isn't very hoppy. its has a finish almost like breakfast grapefruit. An interesting attempt but not quite my cup of tea, er brew of beer.

hdofu, Oct 12, 2012
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2.25/5  rDev -27.9%

BubblesInMyBeer, Nov 01, 2012
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3/5  rDev -3.8%

erialbill, Apr 24, 2014
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3.41/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

From the bottle from a $13.99 6 pack from Oakdale Wine & Spirits in Catonsville, Md. Overall the beer is interesting and worth the price to try once. I never had a genuine Medieval ale brewed in this style prior to this. The take on this style from both Flying Dog and Brewdog from Edinburgh is very cool. I don't know if I would try this specific beer again from Flying Dog but I think this is why Flying Dog has staying power in the craft beer market because they experiment with a variety of styles.

JoshatTownHall, Jan 27, 2013
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3/5  rDev -3.8%

gillagorilla, Mar 20, 2014
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3.39/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Pours an orange amber with a small quickly fading white head. Aroma and Taste of spicy herbs, vegetables, some citrus fruity notes and bitter hops. Palate is medium body, smooth mouth feel with moderate carbonation. Finishes with sweet spices, herbs, and vegetable notes mild citrus fruity favors ending with a lingering slightly dry bitterness. Overall I felt it was a pretty interesting and good brew.

Samp01, Jul 10, 2013
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1.5/5  rDev -51.9%

mikeburd1128, May 12, 2013
Photo of beerthulhu
3.33/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

- Collabration with Brewdog.

A: Dense cadmium orange shows a heavy dose of protein haze. A khaki 1 inch head is short on the hold, offering no visual lace appeal. A layer of sediment collects on the bottom of the vessel, a turn off to some, but i like the extra junk in the glass.

S: Aroma was orange-yeasty. short and sweet but light.

T: Blood orange-yeasty flavor, spices of citronella, grains of paradise, with some honey. Some light cardamon, and ginger, fresh spruce and cinnamon. Sweet, honey ginger laced malting with a peppery leave. Strange, yet a bit intriquing, yeasty and bready.

M: Oily mouthful, malty, sweet and spicy.

O: Overall a strange yet intriquing flavor, spicy, sweet, definitly worthy a single try to figure out the layers of spiciness for oneself. hard to describe.

beerthulhu, Apr 11, 2013
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3/5  rDev -3.8%

sneth019, Aug 07, 2014
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3.98/5  rDev +27.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ba Review #230
Served On: 10/19/2012
Glassware: Duvel Glass
Labeled ABV: 7.5%
Date/ Code: 016A13

This was from Evergreen Liquors in Frederick, MD for $12.99 a 6-pack.

Look: Poured a hazy orangish color with some golden tinges along the edges. The head was a mere coating of film with some tiny speckles of head lacing. Carbonation level seemed very low.

Smell: Mainly earthy spice with a bouquet of dried flowers and hay. This aroma also reminded me of a pumpkin ale with some occasional hints of bland pumpkin meat.

Taste: First off were strong notes of spice - coriander and some clove. The spice subsided towards the middle and then that pumpkin ale character hit. The finish was some residual spice that slowly faded into a faint bitterness.

I was satisfied with the brew – but it was rather pricey for what it was. I plan on seeking out its BrewDog counterpart for sure.

CraftBeerTastic, Oct 19, 2012
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3.46/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Poured from the bottle into a Dogfish Head Ale glass.

A dull orange amber, a bit murky and a little brown also for the body. Makes a faint fleeting one finger tan head, but settles to a thin collar. Collar seems to have some staying power, but the top looks a bit filmy. Can't see much carbonation rising from this.

Nose is floral and full of honeysuckle sensations. Extremely spicy, sort of like cinnamon in a way, with lots hot dry powder burn. Quite a nice smelling brew actually.

Palate though just doesn't bring much depth. Brown spice rush of cinnamon, and nutmeg, but extremely fleeting, and stuck with a very dry and bitter feeling in the mid palate. Finishes wet but with no flavor on the aftertaste. Honey richness hinted on the nose is really missing.

Overall it's drinkable, and certainly doesn't feel boozy for 7.5, but this isn't one of the better Gruits I think I've had.

smakawhat, Mar 06, 2013
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2/5  rDev -35.9%

burdgod, Apr 07, 2013
Photo of oline73
3.23/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from the bottle into a standard pint glass.

Appearance: The beer pours a cloudy amber color with just a hint of orange to it. There is a small layer of off white head that fades to a thin ring around the pour.

Smell: Lots of herbs and spices. I'm getting some coriander and ginger. Reminds me a bit of herbal tea. There might be some pepper as well.

Taste: They're marketing this as a zero ibu IPA, it's full of herbs and spices, but not bitter at all. I'm picking up some pepper and coriander. I'm sure there are more herbs and spices that I'm missing. There is a malt sweetness behind the spices. A bit weird.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with lots of tingly carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: Not a terrible beer. I give them props for trying something weird like this. I enjoyed the spices, but everything fell a bit flat for me. I don't need any more.

oline73, Oct 13, 2012
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International Arms Race from Flying Dog Brewery
73 out of 100 based on 102 ratings.