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Victor's MemoriAle Altbier - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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Victor's MemoriAle AltbierVictor's MemoriAle Altbier

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Reviews: 53
Hads: 77
Avg: 4.07
pDev: 8.85%
Wants: 16
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
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Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Altbier |  7.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: kidadam on 02-24-2007

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Reviews: 53 | Hads: 77
Photo of Slynger
4.05/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Deep, clear, ruby-oak brown color with a fuzzy light tan head that leaves nice lacing.

The smell is sweet and caramely with soft dark fruits and darkly toasted and chocolatey malts, and gentle, woody, overtones.

The flavor has some sweet caramel and light, bittersweet, cocoa along with red grape and red apple fruitiness. A mild amount of darkly toasted bread bitterness finishes with a light, fresh woody quality.

This is my first altbier so I didn't really no what to expect from the style, but this one is a well crafted, tasty, enjoyable brew.

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Photo of jjayjaye
4.05/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

pours a clear yet almost opaque dark brown color with less than a finger whispiy light tan head that fades quickly to surface. Nice lacing observed.

The smell has creamy, mild roast malt, chocolate and cola characteristics.

The mouth feel is medium bodied with a nice hop characteristic and a tingle from the carbonation.

The flavor is malty and sweet with subtle milky cream notes.

Drinkability - very nice; a new style for me. I'll be out on the hunt for the next opportunity for this. The 7.8% is hidden from the

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Photo of Windigstadt
4.04/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: deep mahogany, brilliantly clear; thin ivory head.
Smell: Very slight sweet malt aroma; no hop aroma whatsoever.
Taste: Roast and chocolate malts dominate, with hints of coffee and licorice; very clean with minimal esters; slight alcohol burn; no hop taste or bitterness up front, but blunt bitter finish.
Mouthfeel: Rather full, especially for an Altbier.
Drinkability: Hides its alcohol well; at 7.8% ABV, I can easily drink the 22 oz. bomber in one sitting.

Overall: I'm thrilled to see an American craft brewer attempting a Sticke Altbier. While I've only had a few other varietals (and I'm using Zum Uerige as the standard), this seems a bit too malty to fit the style. A more pronounced noble hop presence along with a slightly thinner body would put this in the same league as anything from Duesseldorf. Style guidelines aside, the beer is delicious. I would almost categorize it as an ale equivalent of a Doppelbock. It's not going to displace Zum Uerige Sticke in my cellar, but a wonderful offering in its own right.

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Photo of baos
4.03/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1 Pint 6 Fluid ounces into Kayla's ringed pint glass.

A: Dark Ruby tinted brown with a two fingered head tan head that sticks around pretty good. Lacing on this one is some of the best I've seen lately.

S: Dark coffee bit of chocolate and vanilla liqueur maltiness.

T: Vanilla beans and dried dark fruitiness along with hop spice on the get go. This mellows into malt for a dry almost oaky finish. There is a definite oak flavor here. A tad astringent and a lot good.

M: Medium-light feel.

D: This is a good beer. I enjoy drinking the brothers Ebel's brews.

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Photo of Cresant
4.02/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured this 22 oz. brown bottle into a stange. No date. The body was an iced down cola color with red highlights. The first pour produced very little off-white head. The second (and third) produced a huge fizzy head that left sticky lace.

Smell was toasty, sweet malts. A totally unique aroma-- almost like a clean wet dog and cherries. Cream of wheat, A pleasant sourness appeared. Very interesting.

Taste was sweet up front, with a tangy finish. Black cherries. Very well hidden alcohol. Understated, yet present hops. Rich, interesting flavors.

Mouthfeel was smooth with a slightly oily feel. Medium carbonation. I have really enjoyed every Two Brothers beer I have tried. Good stuff.

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Photo of Bung
4/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz picked in Columbus OH. From the re-release series.
A sturdy mohoghanny pour, about a finger of cream colored head.

Aroma, quite malty, toffee. Herbally notes, tea, leather.

Taste, Peaty, tobacco, leather up front. Toasted malt and toffee. Pretty strong walnut. A faint anise and cocoa.

Maybe a little lighter than mid body, a nice amount of carbonation. A tad watery may be the only flaw. Drinks get easily.

Not as good as the Sticke brews from Germany, but it is close. Very well done.

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Photo of akorsak
4/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 22 oz bottle from a trade with Autumnaldave.

A: The altbier is a dark cola color, deep brown with an orange highlight or two when light shines through. The head is nearing two fingers on pour and laces nicely in the glass.

S: A strong malty body emerges from the ale, providing a biscuity nose that has a subtle tart element and some dark alefruits lingering around.

T: The body is thick and dripping with malts. The flavors are biscuity with a great deal of grainy bread. The strength of the malts creates a dry, near tart mouthfeel that fosters some raisin and brown sugar flavors. The finish kicks up a bitter hop flavor that gives a nice flourish on the way down before deferring to the raisins as a lingering taste.

M: A solid malt body that holds its strength throughout and a big hop finish, the mouthfeel is grainy and full.

D: The full mouthfeel and higher abv leave me content with the one bomber that I have. The bier is quite good however, a must-see for fans of the alt style.

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Photo of jlindros
4/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a nice creamy 1 finger head that has good retention. A dark murky brown color with hints of reddish hue.

N: Lots of sweet malts and fruit really stand out. Almost raspberries, sour cherries, raisins, and other reddish fruits. Some almost tangy sour aromas come through as well. A little deeper comes slight chocolate malts and some roast. A touch of some hoppy aromas as well.

T: Wow, lots of different flavors. Lots of malts to start, some dark malts, roasted, toasted, chocolate, creamy, etc. Then some fruit, sour cherry, raspberry, other fruit flavors. Some cereal taste. Some hops and a pretty good bitterness as well. Earthy flavors, prolly from the hops, and some creamy roasted flavors. More slightly tangy sour fruit flavors. Quite a few flavors blended pretty nicely.

M: GOod body, some carbonation.

F: Pretty bitter on the finish, with more earthy spicy hops. Pretty dry but maintains a good malty sweetness feel and a slight syrupy feel. The sour flavors linger only long enough for the long bitterness to seem to take over and ride out the finish.

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Photo of Viggo
4/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy brown, some red highlights, thin tan head, nice lacing, settles to a ring. Smell is malty, toffee, bread, some iron, dark fruits, minor roast, yeast, neat. Taste is very malty, roast, toffee, some fruits, bread, bit of chocolate, solid bitterness in the finish. Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied, low carbonation, alcohol is well hidden, shows itself as some fruitiness. Nice shot at doing an 8% altbier, this works pretty well. Doesn't come across as too big for the style.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dusky garnet with bright orange peel trim. It's too bad that it's overcast today because I have a sneaking suspicion that bright sunlight would make MemoriAle look even better. The golden brown sugar colored crown is firmly creamy. It has barely fallen in the several minutes since the pour, but I can see the beginnings of a wonderful lace display.

The nose is reminiscent of a balanced brown ale. Balanced, that is, between heavily toasted malt and herbal, grassy hops. I hope it opens up with warming because I really like what I'm able to appreciate at the moment. Despite the high ABV (for the style), there's no trace of alcohol.

Victor's is good beer. Solid, drinkable and well-crafted are a few other words that come to mind. As the nose suggested it would be, the flavor profile is incredibly balanced. In fact, it might even be hoppier than it is malty; definitely a change of pace for an alt.

The flavor profile consists of well-toasted brown bread (not quite pumpernickel) spread with a thin layer of melted caramel and orange marmalade, then sprinkled with cocoa powder and shredded hop leaves. I'm thinking Saaz or Tettnang. Warming brings out a bit more complexity and depth. Even though alcohol is still well-hidden, I could have come pretty close to guessing the correct ABV.

The mouthfeel is more firm than soft, due partly to the carbonation, and almost develops a light creaminess on the swallow. Although it doesn't fit my preferred profile, it fits the beer well and will be scored accordingly.

Victor's MemoriAle Altbier can't touch the excellence of the Uerige altbiers, but it's one of the best American alts that I've ever had. Only Heavyweight Stickenjab (R.I.P.) and Victory Ten Years Alt can compare. This is a worthy member of the Two Brothers Artisan Beer series and was well worth the price of admission.

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Photo of OHLRangers
4/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22oz bomber into a standard pint glass.

Dark reddish-brown color, with a minimal tan head. Aroma is nice, with caramal, chocolate and dark dried fruits dominant. The taste was more roasted than the smell, with a fair hop balance mainly in the background. There is a bit of an alcohol taste in the finish but it isn't overpowering. All in all a very solid beer, though I wouldn't want to drink several of them on a hot summer's night! Would like to see how this one does after being sat down for about 12-18 months.

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Photo of TheSSG
3.94/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a thick, dense, light-tan head. Aroma is sweet malt, floral hops, and a slight touch of acidity. Deep burnt umber color. Starts off with sweet malt which quickly is blended with a warming booziness as the hops start to come out in the middle. Peaks into a medium-low bitterness with a short burst of floral notes as a toastier malt character comes in for the finish which lingers with toasted malt and hop.

This is pretty well balanced. It's very pleasant. I'm maybe not the biggest fan of the style, and I find the explicitness of the booze character to not agree with my palate, though the hop/malt combination is very well done.

As it warms, the toasted malt character becomes more dominant, to its advantage.

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Photo of Tbone
3.94/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a very dark amber with crimson highlights when held to the light.
Light tan, moderately sized head leaves some lacing on the glass.

The nose is quite minimal.

The taste is not complex, but very cohesive and well balanced. The mild hops (34 IBU) and toasted cereal malts do not compete for attention.
Definitely richer than any real German Alt, but kind of like an uber-alt thats bigger in all dimensions but retains the relative balance among the flavor components.

The mouthfeel may be its best attribute, wonderfully soft and full.

A very drinkable brew that belies its 7.8% abv

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Photo of barnzy78
3.93/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

#12 of 15 Beers for 15 Years series
22oz bomber poured into a 25oz snifter is darker than expected - dark, dark brown and opaque topped with a bubbly ivory head that holds excellent retention and leaves good lacing on the glass. Aromas are fruity, malty, woodsy. Tastes are pleasantly complex with notes of dark fruits, plum, rich dark malt (but not roasted), apple, earthy, tobacco, tea leaf, faint anise and toffee. Mouth-feel is velvety smooth, creamy, nice carbonation allowing flavors to meld on the palate. Overall, I really enjoyed this one for its uniqueness. I wish this was a year rounder - or at least a seasonal offering. Very well crafted!

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Photo of smmeier819
3.88/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

A- nearly opaque, deep dark brown color. Dissipating light tan head, minimal lacing on glass

S- MALT!!! Faint floral hop aroma.

T- Rich, chocolaty, malt forward with noticeable hop bitterness note on the back end to balance the richness. No astringency.

M- Wow, this puppy is smooth...What is that? Velvet?

First thoughts, wow this thing is dark for an Alt which in my opinion is a style of beer that often goes overlooked here in the states. The only thing I am sitting here wondering about is if Victor's Memoriale is really an Altbier, why did I get so much yeast flocculated in the dregs of the bottle? Enough nitpicking though, this beer is delicious and deceptively strong...really creeps up on you with that last sip.

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Photo of mcallister
3.86/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beautiful shade of cola. Has the cherry hints and all but a much nicer off white head that leaves some sticky lace behind and.

Dark bread full of spicey aromas. Even hints of cola in the nose. Nose however doesn't have much more than that going on. There are some dates with a bit of raisin. Nice aroma but lacking in overall complexity.

Nice alt. Very drinkable. Smooth as a whistle and not as chewy as I like my alts. Again there is the cola, with a tobacco hint. Some dates as well as prune. Dark yeasy breads. Lacking depth of mouthfeel but has a finesse too it that is unmatched.

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Photo of WanderingFool
3.82/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Victor's MemoriAle pours a dark mahogany color with a small, thin light tan head on top. The beer almost looks black in the glass. On top, the head dissolves quickly to a foamy ring around the beer leaving only a few spots of lace on the glass.

The aroma is malty with notes of caramel, toffee, brown sugar and a touch of raisin fruityness. Each sip of this medium bodied beer is slightly chewy with a moderate fizz on the middle of the tongue. The flavor is mainly malt. It begins with caramel and roast malt with some chocolate and brown sugar mixed in. In the middle dark fruit notes of raisin take over, before the hops announce themselves with some bitter nutty notes of pistachio. Once gone a caramel-raisin flavor lingers on the palate.

This is a tasty, well balanced beer. Reminds me of a Belgian Dubble. I thought the appearance was a bit flat and mouthfeel a little thin. Otherwise a great brew.

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Photo of Nipitato
3.8/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a bomber at Julio's Liquors in Westborough, MA.

A: Dark brown with garnet highlights - it's actually an amber hue when held up to a light. Thin off white head.

S: Strong, strong, malty toasted, roasted, and sweet caramel aroma. More characteristic of a brown ale than a clean alt. Some restrained hop aroma and some dark fruit ester aromas are also present.

T: A very strong flavor profile. Quite bitter but the malt flavor easily stands up. Malt flavor is roasted and sweet (caramel) like the aroma. Not attenuated.

MF: Medium body. Sweetness makes it a little cloying/sticky. Light carbonation with a dry finish.

D/notes: I think attenuation is the big issue here. Those strong flavor characteristics need some more alone time and a reduction in sweetness would help in terms of drinkability.

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Photo of blitheringidiot
3.78/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Label explains that this alt is brewed in memory of their grandfather who was a dairy farmer.

Bomber bottle pour of deep mahogany eggplant topped with an ivory khaki splotchy cap that instantly settles to a collar with a coating.

Nose appears with a light toasted caramel and red grape aroma, but seems to be lacking a malt front.

First swigs: Toasted malt with some grain breakfast cereal aspects of Wheaties. Light buttery caramel. Some rock candy sugar aspects, perhaps from some unfermented sugar? Finish of walnut shell finally wraps up the show.

Feel is brisk and bitter fast finish with a ton of tea bag like astringency and raw unbridled oatmeal.

Last swigs: A porter meets altbier, but an altbier in the end. Now if I could only remember where this bottle came from? Clocking in at 7.8% ABV is impressive.

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Photo of sprucetip
3.76/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Looks good enough in low light. Guessing mahogany, and definitely red highlights. Nothing exceptional otherwise.

Not a whole lot going on in the nose. What I get is faint and nearly benign. A little grainy and a little malty. Not much else.

Not bold or complex, but well balanced. It tastes grainy, malty sweet and has faint bitterness that mainly balances.

Low/medium carbonation, medium body, clean finish.

I haven't explored the altbier style much, so thought I'd give this one a go. It is smooth, balanced, easy drinking and has some flavor. I think it is pretty well to-style. It is definitely not complex or boundary pushing. But it is a tasty, balanced, well made beer.

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Photo of jasonjlewis
3.74/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Decent initial head with GREAT lacing.

Smell is faint of mainly chocolate malts and a faint hoppiness. Nice, but a little faint.

Taste is very chocolate malty with a hop balance. low bitterness, but nice balance. The alcohol is blended in very well.

Mouthfeel is a little thin, but this beer is fairly easy to drink. It's worth a try.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.73/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(Served in an American pint glass)

A- This beer has a dark brown body with a thin head of tan foam that fades to a ring after a bit. There is a strong carbonation of tiny bubbles that glide to the surface.

S- The soft notes of dry dark roasted malt has hints of light toasted malt in the background. The aroma is nice but pretty soft.

T- The smooth dark toasted malt flavor has hints of chocolate malt and a note of prunes in the background. The finish is a very light dry spice note that might be from hops followed by a soft bitterness from hops. There is a light biscuit malt note and a soft nougat note that comes through when it warms and each add a nice bit of depth.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with no alcohol heat in the finish.

D- This beer has a smooth but light flavor. Even though it has a nice malt quality there isn't much depth.

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Photo of ppoitras
3.63/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

22oz bottle purchased as a single from Julio's, Marlboro, MA.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 1/4" tan head over the clear burgundy brew. Head holds well, with ample lacing. Aroma is lightly of dark malty and fruitiness. Taste starts with fruity roastiness, goes a bit dry in the middle, and closes with hints of hoppiness. As it warms, the nuttiness comes out and balances the fruit well. Mouthfeel and drinkability are both okay, but this one just doesn't come together well for me. The late arrival nuttiness helps though.

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Photo of WoodBrew
3.58/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I'm glad I have a chance to taste how this beer is supposed to taste. I left my original post below which I rated 1.5 or so. With the #12 of 15 retro release the beer is quite drinkable. Great malt character and easy to drink....love those retro releases.

Found a bottle of this in Indianapolis...no date on the bottle, so I have no idea how old it is...yeah....overprimed....smelled like fermented milk...the appearance was nice very dark with red hughes....tasted awful. Perhaps it was good when fresh....but nasty now!

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Photo of TMoney2591
3.58/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a Gale Sayers shaker pint glass.

I wanna see if we can get a count of the number of new portmanteau words coined by brewers over the years for their beers' names... Anyway, this stuff pours a clear deep garnet topped by a finger-and-a-half of sandy tan foam. The nose comprises earthy greens, toffee, tea, and a kiss of clove. The taste holds notes of light tea, dry caramel, light earthy greens, light brown sugar, minerals, and a splash of cola. The body is a light medium, with a very light moderate carbonation and a generally smooth feel. Overall, this was a pretty enjoyable alt, though it did at times come to resemble a dark mild that had been mixed with a cola. Still, not a bad combination in practice...

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Victor's MemoriAle Altbier from Two Brothers Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 53 ratings.