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Victor's MemoriAle Altbier - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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Reviews: 53
Hads: 77
rAvg: 4.07
pDev: 7.86%
Wants: 14
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
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Illinois, United States

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Altbier |  7.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Reviews: 53 | Hads: 77
Photo of Windigstadt
4.04/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: deep mahogany, brilliantly clear; thin ivory head.
Smell: Very slight sweet malt aroma; no hop aroma whatsoever.
Taste: Roast and chocolate malts dominate, with hints of coffee and licorice; very clean with minimal esters; slight alcohol burn; no hop taste or bitterness up front, but blunt bitter finish.
Mouthfeel: Rather full, especially for an Altbier.
Drinkability: Hides its alcohol well; at 7.8% ABV, I can easily drink the 22 oz. bomber in one sitting.

Overall: I'm thrilled to see an American craft brewer attempting a Sticke Altbier. While I've only had a few other varietals (and I'm using Zum Uerige as the standard), this seems a bit too malty to fit the style. A more pronounced noble hop presence along with a slightly thinner body would put this in the same league as anything from Duesseldorf. Style guidelines aside, the beer is delicious. I would almost categorize it as an ale equivalent of a Doppelbock. It's not going to displace Zum Uerige Sticke in my cellar, but a wonderful offering in its own right. (1,045 characters)

Photo of Slynger
4.05/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Deep, clear, ruby-oak brown color with a fuzzy light tan head that leaves nice lacing.

The smell is sweet and caramely with soft dark fruits and darkly toasted and chocolatey malts, and gentle, woody, overtones.

The flavor has some sweet caramel and light, bittersweet, cocoa along with red grape and red apple fruitiness. A mild amount of darkly toasted bread bitterness finishes with a light, fresh woody quality.

This is my first altbier so I didn't really no what to expect from the style, but this one is a well crafted, tasty, enjoyable brew. (551 characters)

Photo of jjayjaye
4.05/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

pours a clear yet almost opaque dark brown color with less than a finger whispiy light tan head that fades quickly to surface. Nice lacing observed.

The smell has creamy, mild roast malt, chocolate and cola characteristics.

The mouth feel is medium bodied with a nice hop characteristic and a tingle from the carbonation.

The flavor is malty and sweet with subtle milky cream notes.

Drinkability - very nice; a new style for me. I'll be out on the hunt for the next opportunity for this. The 7.8% is hidden from the (527 characters)

Photo of falloutsnow
4.07/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

From: Binny's, Schaumburg, IL
Date: None listed, arrived on shelves around early October
Glass: Ayinger willi glass

Two Brothers' Victor's Altbier finds itself a dark and toasted version of the style that lands itself in "sticke" territory. With a very nice expressive aroma and taste that features toasted bread and nuts, a bit of cocoa, and some nicely bittering European hops. Would definitely get again and would appreciate this being a seasonal or rotating release.

Pours a moderately dark tan, 2cm head of small to medium-sized bubbles, quite dense, producing quite a thick head. Head gradually falls to a thick ring around the glass Lacing is present, somewhat modest, small spheres of foam sticking to the sides of the glass and a few lines. Body is a very dark brown color, nearly opaque, with light bringing out orange-amber hues. Carbonation is not visible, but clearly present in supporting the head.

Aroma is of darkly toasted brown bread, toasted walnuts and hazelnuts, slight black tea, very faint herbal European hops, and general thick, malty sweetness. Overall impression is of toasted bread and nuts with some minor complexity added by the hops and tea scents.

Taste is influenced by the toasted walnuts and hazelnuts meeting modest cocoa. Front of palate picks up toasted dark bread and nuts, cocoa, even a bit of coffee and marshmallow. Mid-palate features these flavors alongside spicy European hops and tannins as from black tea. Back of palate continues spicy European hops alongside decreased toasted bread, nut, and cocoa presence. Lingering aftertastes of toasted bread and nuts, cocoa, even a bit of marshmallow: not a stout, but a heavy German-style brown ale that veers towards one.

Beer is medium to medium-heavy in body, with moderate to moderate-light carbonation. The resulting mouthfeel is smooth and creamy, with just enough carbonic pep to make this move across the palate smoothly and easily. Closes rather dry, with substantial stickiness around the lips. (1,999 characters)

Photo of GbVDave
4.1/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served in a pint glass at Sheffield's 5/18/07.

A: Served a dark black with a 1/2 finger cap of tan-colored foam.

S: Nice aromas of toasted malt, rye bread, caramel, toffee, and cola nut.

T: Flavors of toasted malt, chocolate, black cherry, cola, caramel apples, mild roast coffee, rye tang, and slightly bitter hops.

M: Smooth, sweet, with a bitter zing.

D: This is a very refreshing beer. (407 characters)

Photo of Wasatch
4.1/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to autumnaldave for this brew.

Pours a nice clean/clear dark brown color, some carbonation, tiny fizzy head, some sticky lacing follows. The nose is mostly malts/caramel, and some toffee/vanilla. The taste is very nice, malty, a nice little sweetness, nice touch of caramel, toffee, and vanilla. Medium body. Very drinkable, this one goes down real smooth, highly recommended. (393 characters)

Photo of marcobrau
4.18/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

This one pours a nice medium to dark brown. Purists would say it's too dark; they would probably also call this a dopplesticke, as it is rather strong. I didn't get much a head with my pour, but what foam was generated seem to last, leaving some thick lace. The body is just about right, medium, with a smooth as satin mouthfeel. The malt flavor seems predominant with burnt caramel and hints of chocolate and coffee (just little bits though). The bitterness at the finish is solid and nicely assertive. Overall, one of the Two Brothers best offerings so far. (559 characters)

Photo of SPLITGRIN
4.18/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A deep blackish brown body yeilds a ruby glow on the edges when held to light. Head is a two finger perfect tan that leaves thick frothy lace. Nice wheat and malt balances dance with a hint of sweetness and dark fruit on the nose. As it hits the tongue you get a very rich malt backboned beer. Smokey feel is even and well balanced with slight rich sweetness. This beer drinks very easy with nice character. Mouthfeel is very thick and glazing. Meaty rich and long on the mouth which translates well into the overall taste. Nutty and burnt biscuit like notes do also develop as you enjoy this one. A success of a beer in a tough time for the brewers. (650 characters)

Photo of SerialHiker
4.18/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours brown to dark brown…nice tan khaki head, a good inch wide…long lasting too, I might add…tons of good carbonation with this ale…(4.25/5)

Smell: Initially there isn’t too much smell happening…most likely because of the awesome head that sticking around…even after head recedes, there isn’t too much aroma…fruity and malty scents in there if I really dig my nose all up in there…(3.5/5)

Taste: Nice, smooth roasted malts…there’s an earthiness to it…hops shows halfway through and does a fantastic balancing job…piney and mildly bitter after taste…there seems to be a smidge of chocolate, cherry and creamy flavors in there as well….(4.25/5)

Mouthfeel: Great carbonation…fluffs up real nice and settles well on the palette…no bitterness or over-maltiness here…flavor and feel doesn’t last long…sorta entices the mouth for another sip…(3.75/5)

Overall: Two Brothers does it again…this is a great ale…the flavor is dynamic and well rounded…I know that there’s a bit higher ABV here, but it’s not overly dominate like some in this range…malts and hops balance so nicely…this beer is absolutely perfect while watching Tom Brady do his thing versus, well, anybody…great beer, hope I find another before it’s gone…(4/5) (1,295 characters)

Photo of beachbum1975
4.2/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

What's with the rash of recent Alt beers for me lately? Hmm, no idea.

I grabbed this one at Jungle Jim's some time back. Because of the "HORRIFIC" ice storm in Cincinnati, I figured I'd have a few beers as it's illegal to go and drive for any reason (Good times!!!). 22 ounce brown bomber with no freshness date.

Per the label, this beer was dedicated to the two bros' uncle who was a dedicated and proud farmer out in Nebraska. Keeping in sync with the dedication, I raise my glass to you, Uncle Victor - this one's for you!

Pours a rich, highly cloudy dark brown with orange and cherry highlights. Though the initial pour didn't yield much head, the 1/16 inch, tan lingering head had good retention. This is definitely the darkest brown Alt I've had (although this is only my third alt-style beer ever!)...

The nose was a nice mix of semi-sweet malts, light floral hops and a little bitterness. It might just be me, but I almost detect a roasted chocolate malt presence, as well.

Medium to full bodied beer with medium flavor. Moderate carbonation on the mouth, as well. Nut brown flavors mixed with light chocolate malts, like the nose. Very smooth flavor and enjoyable. The slightest bit of drying, bitter hops is detected in the middle and end.

For what it's worth, I like the nut brown and almost chocolate aspects mixed together.

This is my favorite alt style beer to date. It's a relatively straight forward beer that can be sipped or sessioned. (1,464 characters)

Photo of Bighuge
4.21/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Mahogany. Perfectly clear mahogany. Brilliant looking. Bubbly beige head leaves nice rings of lace. Nice whiff of malt and hops. Toffee blends with a little nougat like maltiness and caramel on the nose with a backdrop of slight minty hops. Good nose. The taste up front is that of toffee and nuts and caramel and nougat. Even with the 34 IBUs, this is a malt dominated beer. And that's not a bad thing either. The hops add balance to this beer and a little dryness to the finish. Somewhat velvety mouthfeel. Medium-full body. At 7.8% a/v, this is quite a hefty alt. Sticke like in strength and texture. Not quite as good as Uerige, but this stuff is pretty damn good. (668 characters)

Photo of beveritt
4.22/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Poured from a brown bomber into a standard pint glass. Label depicts a family crest, Ebel, and explains that this beer is brewed in honor of thier grandfather, Victor. Very cool.

Appearance: Pours with 1/2 inch of light tan foam than settles quickly into a very thing layer and ring around the glass. Good lacing. The beer itself is a dark ruby brown with some activity.

Smell: Tons of caramel and dark, sweet molasses aroma upfront! I love it. Hints of alcohol at the end.

Taste: Caramel and roastiness at first, trails into a decent malt body and a mild bitter finish.

Mouthfeel: Good body and average carbonation. Just enough bite to help get the flavors to your taste buds.

Drinkability: I unfortunately only picked up one bomber of this while in Illinois, and am now disappointed I didn't get more. A great, flavorful beer I could drink all the time. (875 characters)

Photo of waldoiverson
4.22/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

poured from bomber into pint glass.

Appearance: appears somewhat viscous from pour with minimal and creamy brown head. excellent lacing with minimal carbonation apparent

Smell: caramel and brown sugar with little alcohol. smells rich and inviting.

Taste: roasted maltiness with bitterness in the finish but not much hop.

Mouthfeel: rather heavy body that coats the mouth in a good way. the appearance is backed up with the mouthfeel

Drinkability: A great beer for a cooler day, I was excited to try and consumed on a warmer day. The roasted notes and thick mouthfeel were a bit much for summer in chicago. i def. want some of these around for fall and will be putting a few away for a nice cool day of watching college football. (734 characters)

Photo of BeerTruth
4.23/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to SPLITGRIN for this one.

22 oz. bottle poured into a stange.

Pours a dark mahogony with a full one finger khaki colored head that leaves a decent amount of lacing behind. Smell is a musty oak and new leather scent. Hints of caramel malt and some dark fruits in the nose as well. There also seems to be a bit of pepper and spice too. Taste is very similar to the aroma. Sweet potato flavor up front with molasses on the tongue as well. A tiny bit of alcohol finds its way in the flavor but doesn't take away from the overall complexity. Leather makes another appearance in the taste with an almost almond like nuttiness in the aftertaste. Somewhat slick feel with a medium body. Warming alchol flavor towards the end. Such an interesting brew. With the few I've had of this style, this one is easily the best. Glad I had the opportunity to try this one, hopefully more breweries will attempt this style. (913 characters)

Photo of emerge077
4.27/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a one-time release, as far as I know, guess time will tell.

Served in a stange cylinder, around 45º. Two fingers of tan creamy foam have a creamy surface texture. Loopy drips of lacing are left around the edge after every sip. Color is a very deep reddish mahogany that light can just barely pass through.

Aroma of dried black cherry, wood, faint cocoa, and dark malts. It really creates an appeal once the bottle is opened. After sitting in the bottle for the better part of the year, much of the hop aroma that I noticed on draft has diminished. Still it's very unique and pleasant.

Robust feel that is impressively smooth with light carbonation. It rolls across the palate, evaporating quickly. Bitterness of earthy aged hops linger into a mildly dry finish. A little woody in the taste, with a big malt bill. Some light nutty character with a light sweetness that is balanced by an equally mild bitterness in the finish.

Very light feeling despite it's robust flavor profile. Easy to drink, something I could have once in a while. One bomber is the perfect serving size. (1,090 characters)

Photo of Georgiabeer
4.3/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Quite dark brown with a deceent head, but one that dissipates quickly. There are aromas of rye, an undefined graininess, mint, and some sweet maltiness toward the end. Really nice flavors here with lightly toasted grain, some bitter hops in the background, and some nice bubblegum flavors on the finish. The mouthfeel has good body, but its a little grainy and perhaps a tad heavy for the style. Very drinkable, just delicious. In the U.S., just rivaled by the 10 year alt from Victory. (486 characters)

Photo of Dotcubed
4.34/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big fan of the brewery, they've made some great stuff.

I bought this out west, no idea where. Maybe the Four Firkins, probably not Detroit.
Like the brewery and haven't had this style before, that i can recall.

Sam Adams glass seems like a good idea...
Funk fruit smell. Syrup. Hint of carbonation. No foam.
Plesant aroma, malt. Very ripe cherries, some tartness.

Some good results here.
Slight effervescence, dry, fruity, burnt marshmello.
Nothing what I would expect from a beer past it's prime.
Deeply complex, bitter and sweet. Fancy chocolate esque.

Good body to it. Not overly heavy.

What I would like to drink on a farm after a hard day. (659 characters)

Photo of merlin48
4.35/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz bottle pours a clear and radiant ruby brown body with a 2 cm beige head. Good retention and lots of spotty lacing.

Aroma features chocolate, McIntosh apples, floral hops and a hint of roast.

Mouthfeel has a satiny crisp carbonation and medium body.

Taste is caramel and chocolate, dark fruits, fruity red apples, walnuts, and spicy and floral hops. Some doppelbock character here. Alcohol is hidden well. Very Germanic all the way through.

One of the best alts I've had. Very well done! (504 characters)

Photo of MillRat
4.35/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

It was a hot August day at the North Aurora Beer Fest yesterday, and about a dozen brewers were showing their wares. Points to the local Miller guys for showing up, even though they were outclassed. The Two Brothers rep (Jim and Jason were busy doing demolition in the new digs for their expanded brewery) was very proud that he snagged the second-to-last keg of Victor's Memoriale Altbier for this fest.

The beer poured a cola-brown color with a tan, long-lasting head. Great biscuity malt aroma and flavor, with just enough hops and roast grain bitterness to balance. The dryness helped offset the weight that must have gone along with all that malt, making it an easy drinker out in the summer heat and sun. No idea that it was nearly 8% ABV until I looked at the stats on the beer here before I posted. Maybe if there's enough of an outcry we can get Jason to brew this one again like we did with Cane & Ebel. (916 characters)

Photo of rousee
4.37/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

As far as Altbiier goes this is one of the better ones i have had. Probably the darkest Alt Ive ever seen but i dont think it detracts in any way. There is some nice lace remaining on the sides of the glass. And the foam itself is quite dark.

The nose is mostly roasted malts with some hints of cherry and pine resin. Very nicely done. This is an Alt with a lot of complexity. Reminds me of an imperial stout to some degree with its depth and complexity.

The taste is molasses and more dark malts with a somewhat nutty finish. Reminds me of hazelnuts and almonds. Unfortunately its not too drinkable with this high ABV and resultant sticky sweetness. Still one of the better Alts Ive tried. Very Good !!! (710 characters)

Photo of Chaney
4.42/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I had this on-tap at Hackney's in the Printer's Row area of Chicago.

Served in a pint glass.

A: Poured a dark brown, damn near black color (or at much, much darker than I was expecting), with some ruby slivers poking around the edges. The finger or so sticky, mocha head made my day.

S: The caramel delectableness made this totally special, along with the whole wheat toast and Rolo candy fumes. Very inviting indeed!

T: Wow, what full complex flavor! Caramel nougat, lactose, with a sort of candy coated booze that let you know this was a high octane brew with a flavor-infused purpose. I would best describe this as a cross between a Wee Heavy and a milk stout.

M: Thick, chewy, and sticky, without being cloying in the least. The carbonation level was spot on and the lacing was mildly splotchy.

O: Consistent from start to finish. This was truly one of the highlights of my holiday vacation, therefore, I went next door to a local wine shop and grabbed a bottle to bring back to DC to share at a future tasting. (1,021 characters)

Photo of ultralarry2006
4.47/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This serving was poured from a 22 oz. bottle. Leaves less than a one finger head that quickly recedes into a foam ring at the edge, and not much lacing. Body is a deep brown with purpley highlights. Nice looking.

Smell - hearty maltbread and spicy alcohol. Seemingly straightforward and simple.

Taste - as promised by the nose. Very hearty maltbread. Some black pepper. Also, some alcohol spiciness. Very simple, but delicious and hearty.

Mouthfeeel - medium to full bodied, slightly semi-dry.

Drinkability - this is a very good beer, very hearty, very solid. High abv limits the sessionability. (607 characters)

Photo of pat61
4.5/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had on tap at the Pig & Fiddle. It pours brilliant amber with an amber tint under a brief 2” cream colored foam collar. Has the Uerige creamy luscious body and rich malty palate without the stale cardboard tastes. (215 characters)

Photo of orbitalr0x
4.52/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Recently picked up this 22oz bomber. Always like to find a new treat from Two Brothers, the artisnal series has produced some really good brews. This one pours into my glass a extremely dark brown with some dark red hues. A nice half inch of foam tops the brew. Wonderful clarity as well. Aromas explode from the glass big spicy, roasty dark bready malts. Chocolate, roasted nuts and a touch of coffee come through as well.

First sip brings a spicy, dark bread maltiness upfront that's nice and roasted as well. Chocolate flavors move in along with a hint of bitter coffee as well. Somewhat nutty, it flows down with a nice herbal, noble hop bitterness. Light hints of dark fruits are there as well. Wonderfully balanced with a great flavor...this is a damn fine brew!

Mouthfeel is great. Wonderful medium body and smooth carbonation. This one goes down incredibly easy and is quite refreshing. An intensely tasty, big altbier...I could get myself into trouble drinking this one I imagine. I'm sitting here kicking myself for only buying one bottle, it's time to go pick up some more. One of the best altbiers I have ever sampled. Cheers to the memory of Victor and everyone at Two Brothers...keep 'em coming! (1,215 characters)

Photo of scruffwhor
4.59/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Great ruby amber color beneath a nice two finger head that slowly recedes to nothing. You can barely see the bubbles in this dark ruby beer. The aroma is an awesome fruity, nutty, toasted malt extavaganza! The taste starts with a toasted plum with maybe some brown sugar. The middle mixes in some hazelnuts that move to very grainy but still pleasantly sweet. Nice mouthfeel that is grainy sweet and very well carbonated. Great integration ofthe abv. too. A session beer in flavor and palate. But the abv. makes that pretty unadvisable. (536 characters)

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Victor's MemoriAle Altbier from Two Brothers Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 53 ratings.