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Victor's MemoriAle Altbier - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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Reviews: 53
Hads: 77
Avg: 4.07
pDev: 8.85%
Wants: 16
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
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Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Altbier |  7.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: kidadam on 02-24-2007

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Reviews: 53 | Hads: 77
4.18/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A deep blackish brown body yeilds a ruby glow on the edges when held to light. Head is a two finger perfect tan that leaves thick frothy lace. Nice wheat and malt balances dance with a hint of sweetness and dark fruit on the nose. As it hits the tongue you get a very rich malt backboned beer. Smokey feel is even and well balanced with slight rich sweetness. This beer drinks very easy with nice character. Mouthfeel is very thick and glazing. Meaty rich and long on the mouth which translates well into the overall taste. Nutty and burnt biscuit like notes do also develop as you enjoy this one. A success of a beer in a tough time for the brewers.

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4.07/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

From: Binny's, Schaumburg, IL
Date: None listed, arrived on shelves around early October
Glass: Ayinger willi glass

Two Brothers' Victor's Altbier finds itself a dark and toasted version of the style that lands itself in "sticke" territory. With a very nice expressive aroma and taste that features toasted bread and nuts, a bit of cocoa, and some nicely bittering European hops. Would definitely get again and would appreciate this being a seasonal or rotating release.

Pours a moderately dark tan, 2cm head of small to medium-sized bubbles, quite dense, producing quite a thick head. Head gradually falls to a thick ring around the glass Lacing is present, somewhat modest, small spheres of foam sticking to the sides of the glass and a few lines. Body is a very dark brown color, nearly opaque, with light bringing out orange-amber hues. Carbonation is not visible, but clearly present in supporting the head.

Aroma is of darkly toasted brown bread, toasted walnuts and hazelnuts, slight black tea, very faint herbal European hops, and general thick, malty sweetness. Overall impression is of toasted bread and nuts with some minor complexity added by the hops and tea scents.

Taste is influenced by the toasted walnuts and hazelnuts meeting modest cocoa. Front of palate picks up toasted dark bread and nuts, cocoa, even a bit of coffee and marshmallow. Mid-palate features these flavors alongside spicy European hops and tannins as from black tea. Back of palate continues spicy European hops alongside decreased toasted bread, nut, and cocoa presence. Lingering aftertastes of toasted bread and nuts, cocoa, even a bit of marshmallow: not a stout, but a heavy German-style brown ale that veers towards one.

Beer is medium to medium-heavy in body, with moderate to moderate-light carbonation. The resulting mouthfeel is smooth and creamy, with just enough carbonic pep to make this move across the palate smoothly and easily. Closes rather dry, with substantial stickiness around the lips.

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3.05/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

I like altbier's, and I really like other Two Brother's beers I've tried, so I was really excited when I heard about this one. It was pretty good, but I couldn't help feeling a little disappointed by this beer.

It pours a coffee brown with a very minimal head (less than a cm). Aroma is light, pleasant, and toffee-ish. Flavor is slightly sour and heavily caramel-y...more like a bock than I expected. The sourness seems slightly off to me, and I must say that the mouthfeel is over-carbonated, which is odd given the small amount of head when I poured it. This beer is also sticky in your mouth, which in my opinion is consistent with the style. Still, I must say i was a bit disappointed with the flavor of this beer.

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3.74/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Decent initial head with GREAT lacing.

Smell is faint of mainly chocolate malts and a faint hoppiness. Nice, but a little faint.

Taste is very chocolate malty with a hop balance. low bitterness, but nice balance. The alcohol is blended in very well.

Mouthfeel is a little thin, but this beer is fairly easy to drink. It's worth a try.

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3.76/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Looks good enough in low light. Guessing mahogany, and definitely red highlights. Nothing exceptional otherwise.

Not a whole lot going on in the nose. What I get is faint and nearly benign. A little grainy and a little malty. Not much else.

Not bold or complex, but well balanced. It tastes grainy, malty sweet and has faint bitterness that mainly balances.

Low/medium carbonation, medium body, clean finish.

I haven't explored the altbier style much, so thought I'd give this one a go. It is smooth, balanced, easy drinking and has some flavor. I think it is pretty well to-style. It is definitely not complex or boundary pushing. But it is a tasty, balanced, well made beer.

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4.05/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

pours a clear yet almost opaque dark brown color with less than a finger whispiy light tan head that fades quickly to surface. Nice lacing observed.

The smell has creamy, mild roast malt, chocolate and cola characteristics.

The mouth feel is medium bodied with a nice hop characteristic and a tingle from the carbonation.

The flavor is malty and sweet with subtle milky cream notes.

Drinkability - very nice; a new style for me. I'll be out on the hunt for the next opportunity for this. The 7.8% is hidden from the

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4.23/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to SPLITGRIN for this one.

22 oz. bottle poured into a stange.

Pours a dark mahogony with a full one finger khaki colored head that leaves a decent amount of lacing behind. Smell is a musty oak and new leather scent. Hints of caramel malt and some dark fruits in the nose as well. There also seems to be a bit of pepper and spice too. Taste is very similar to the aroma. Sweet potato flavor up front with molasses on the tongue as well. A tiny bit of alcohol finds its way in the flavor but doesn't take away from the overall complexity. Leather makes another appearance in the taste with an almost almond like nuttiness in the aftertaste. Somewhat slick feel with a medium body. Warming alchol flavor towards the end. Such an interesting brew. With the few I've had of this style, this one is easily the best. Glad I had the opportunity to try this one, hopefully more breweries will attempt this style.

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4.22/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Poured from a brown bomber into a standard pint glass. Label depicts a family crest, Ebel, and explains that this beer is brewed in honor of thier grandfather, Victor. Very cool.

Appearance: Pours with 1/2 inch of light tan foam than settles quickly into a very thing layer and ring around the glass. Good lacing. The beer itself is a dark ruby brown with some activity.

Smell: Tons of caramel and dark, sweet molasses aroma upfront! I love it. Hints of alcohol at the end.

Taste: Caramel and roastiness at first, trails into a decent malt body and a mild bitter finish.

Mouthfeel: Good body and average carbonation. Just enough bite to help get the flavors to your taste buds.

Drinkability: I unfortunately only picked up one bomber of this while in Illinois, and am now disappointed I didn't get more. A great, flavorful beer I could drink all the time.

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4.2/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

What's with the rash of recent Alt beers for me lately? Hmm, no idea.

I grabbed this one at Jungle Jim's some time back. Because of the "HORRIFIC" ice storm in Cincinnati, I figured I'd have a few beers as it's illegal to go and drive for any reason (Good times!!!). 22 ounce brown bomber with no freshness date.

Per the label, this beer was dedicated to the two bros' uncle who was a dedicated and proud farmer out in Nebraska. Keeping in sync with the dedication, I raise my glass to you, Uncle Victor - this one's for you!

Pours a rich, highly cloudy dark brown with orange and cherry highlights. Though the initial pour didn't yield much head, the 1/16 inch, tan lingering head had good retention. This is definitely the darkest brown Alt I've had (although this is only my third alt-style beer ever!)...

The nose was a nice mix of semi-sweet malts, light floral hops and a little bitterness. It might just be me, but I almost detect a roasted chocolate malt presence, as well.

Medium to full bodied beer with medium flavor. Moderate carbonation on the mouth, as well. Nut brown flavors mixed with light chocolate malts, like the nose. Very smooth flavor and enjoyable. The slightest bit of drying, bitter hops is detected in the middle and end.

For what it's worth, I like the nut brown and almost chocolate aspects mixed together.

This is my favorite alt style beer to date. It's a relatively straight forward beer that can be sipped or sessioned.

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4.05/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Deep, clear, ruby-oak brown color with a fuzzy light tan head that leaves nice lacing.

The smell is sweet and caramely with soft dark fruits and darkly toasted and chocolatey malts, and gentle, woody, overtones.

The flavor has some sweet caramel and light, bittersweet, cocoa along with red grape and red apple fruitiness. A mild amount of darkly toasted bread bitterness finishes with a light, fresh woody quality.

This is my first altbier so I didn't really no what to expect from the style, but this one is a well crafted, tasty, enjoyable brew.

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4.18/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

This one pours a nice medium to dark brown. Purists would say it's too dark; they would probably also call this a dopplesticke, as it is rather strong. I didn't get much a head with my pour, but what foam was generated seem to last, leaving some thick lace. The body is just about right, medium, with a smooth as satin mouthfeel. The malt flavor seems predominant with burnt caramel and hints of chocolate and coffee (just little bits though). The bitterness at the finish is solid and nicely assertive. Overall, one of the Two Brothers best offerings so far.

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4.61/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I do love alts. But I tend to like them on the smaller side. But Cain and Ebel haven't let me down yet.

And they certainly deliver on this one. It manages to have a lot going on while remaining quite quaffable, which to me is what alts should be all about.

It is fairly dry, kicking off with an acidic chocolate tingle on the tongue with a strong earthy blast of noble hops. The finish is light and powdery and just a tad bit sweet.

Every time I take a sip, I notice something different. Strongly acidic black patent, chhocolate, earthy hops, sweet malts, so good. One sip it is like a good German pilsner, and at another like a robust english porter, and at the next like the doppelsticke it is.

A great, great beer.

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4.69/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Deep, transparent chestnut brown capped by a short but lively head. Spotty lacing but steady streams of bubbles follow.

Mild malt sweetness in the nose, prunes followed by a scent reminiscent of piles of raked leaves. Soft nuttiness kicks in as it warms up with still more sweetness (maple syrup?).

Oh, that's exceptional! Warm malty tones with exquisite, refined sweetness that reminds me of the Italian liqueur, Nocello (a walnut drink). The best qualities of my favorite brown ales are highlighted here with the unmistakable German characteristics of a great doppelbock. The alcohol isn't detectable in the slightest way and dark fruit and bread notes sing through the finish. Love it.

Mouthfeel is super with just the right level of carbonation and thickness to balance each other out. As previously noted, ABV isn't apparent making this a deadly drinkable beer. The Ebels appear to be the real deal; if they were to focus solely on the beers that make up their seasonal/artisan roster I have little doubt they could become a phenomenon.

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3.94/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a thick, dense, light-tan head. Aroma is sweet malt, floral hops, and a slight touch of acidity. Deep burnt umber color. Starts off with sweet malt which quickly is blended with a warming booziness as the hops start to come out in the middle. Peaks into a medium-low bitterness with a short burst of floral notes as a toastier malt character comes in for the finish which lingers with toasted malt and hop.

This is pretty well balanced. It's very pleasant. I'm maybe not the biggest fan of the style, and I find the explicitness of the booze character to not agree with my palate, though the hop/malt combination is very well done.

As it warms, the toasted malt character becomes more dominant, to its advantage.

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4.47/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This serving was poured from a 22 oz. bottle. Leaves less than a one finger head that quickly recedes into a foam ring at the edge, and not much lacing. Body is a deep brown with purpley highlights. Nice looking.

Smell - hearty maltbread and spicy alcohol. Seemingly straightforward and simple.

Taste - as promised by the nose. Very hearty maltbread. Some black pepper. Also, some alcohol spiciness. Very simple, but delicious and hearty.

Mouthfeeel - medium to full bodied, slightly semi-dry.

Drinkability - this is a very good beer, very hearty, very solid. High abv limits the sessionability.

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4.03/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1 Pint 6 Fluid ounces into Kayla's ringed pint glass.

A: Dark Ruby tinted brown with a two fingered head tan head that sticks around pretty good. Lacing on this one is some of the best I've seen lately.

S: Dark coffee bit of chocolate and vanilla liqueur maltiness.

T: Vanilla beans and dried dark fruitiness along with hop spice on the get go. This mellows into malt for a dry almost oaky finish. There is a definite oak flavor here. A tad astringent and a lot good.

M: Medium-light feel.

D: This is a good beer. I enjoy drinking the brothers Ebel's brews.

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4.37/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

As far as Altbiier goes this is one of the better ones i have had. Probably the darkest Alt Ive ever seen but i dont think it detracts in any way. There is some nice lace remaining on the sides of the glass. And the foam itself is quite dark.

The nose is mostly roasted malts with some hints of cherry and pine resin. Very nicely done. This is an Alt with a lot of complexity. Reminds me of an imperial stout to some degree with its depth and complexity.

The taste is molasses and more dark malts with a somewhat nutty finish. Reminds me of hazelnuts and almonds. Unfortunately its not too drinkable with this high ABV and resultant sticky sweetness. Still one of the better Alts Ive tried. Very Good !!!

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3.57/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle poured into a NB snifter.

A - Pours a glistening amber copper. A one-finger head of very loose and bubbly khaki foam quickly collapses into a thin layer that then slowly dissolves in fine lace across the surface. Held to a full-spectrum light, the beer is a deep cherry-wood around the edges of the glass and is almost completely opaque.

S - Rich, moist fruit bread. Almost burnt toast. After it warms in the glass, it takes on the appearance of having almost a really dark, old red wine mixed in. At the very end of the bottle, hints of vanilla show up, along with a touch of ABV. Nose is soft.

T - Lots of Well toasted, notes of roasted malt. Dark bread. Hints of dark fruit like plum and red grapes in the background. Baking chocolate, as in brownies, emerges in the finish. Just enough bittering hops in the taste profile to keep the malts clean. What is detectable are noble. Taste profile overall has a certain roughness to it.

M - Foamy, with lots a carbonation. Body is thin. Structure is open, with plenty of space in it. Components are properly integrated. Finish is short and rather dry.

O - The toasted/roasted malts are just on the edge of suggesting smoked. The hints of baking chocolate do a nice job of taking the edge off them. The beer's structure is pretty open, so it seems to lack a foundation. This would pair well with something like smoked Gouda and wheat crackers.

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3.8/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a bomber at Julio's Liquors in Westborough, MA.

A: Dark brown with garnet highlights - it's actually an amber hue when held up to a light. Thin off white head.

S: Strong, strong, malty toasted, roasted, and sweet caramel aroma. More characteristic of a brown ale than a clean alt. Some restrained hop aroma and some dark fruit ester aromas are also present.

T: A very strong flavor profile. Quite bitter but the malt flavor easily stands up. Malt flavor is roasted and sweet (caramel) like the aroma. Not attenuated.

MF: Medium body. Sweetness makes it a little cloying/sticky. Light carbonation with a dry finish.

D/notes: I think attenuation is the big issue here. Those strong flavor characteristics need some more alone time and a reduction in sweetness would help in terms of drinkability.

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4.22/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

poured from bomber into pint glass.

Appearance: appears somewhat viscous from pour with minimal and creamy brown head. excellent lacing with minimal carbonation apparent

Smell: caramel and brown sugar with little alcohol. smells rich and inviting.

Taste: roasted maltiness with bitterness in the finish but not much hop.

Mouthfeel: rather heavy body that coats the mouth in a good way. the appearance is backed up with the mouthfeel

Drinkability: A great beer for a cooler day, I was excited to try and consumed on a warmer day. The roasted notes and thick mouthfeel were a bit much for summer in chicago. i def. want some of these around for fall and will be putting a few away for a nice cool day of watching college football.

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4.35/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

It was a hot August day at the North Aurora Beer Fest yesterday, and about a dozen brewers were showing their wares. Points to the local Miller guys for showing up, even though they were outclassed. The Two Brothers rep (Jim and Jason were busy doing demolition in the new digs for their expanded brewery) was very proud that he snagged the second-to-last keg of Victor's Memoriale Altbier for this fest.

The beer poured a cola-brown color with a tan, long-lasting head. Great biscuity malt aroma and flavor, with just enough hops and roast grain bitterness to balance. The dryness helped offset the weight that must have gone along with all that malt, making it an easy drinker out in the summer heat and sun. No idea that it was nearly 8% ABV until I looked at the stats on the beer here before I posted. Maybe if there's enough of an outcry we can get Jason to brew this one again like we did with Cane & Ebel.

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4.34/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big fan of the brewery, they've made some great stuff.

I bought this out west, no idea where. Maybe the Four Firkins, probably not Detroit.
Like the brewery and haven't had this style before, that i can recall.

Sam Adams glass seems like a good idea...
Funk fruit smell. Syrup. Hint of carbonation. No foam.
Plesant aroma, malt. Very ripe cherries, some tartness.

Some good results here.
Slight effervescence, dry, fruity, burnt marshmello.
Nothing what I would expect from a beer past it's prime.
Deeply complex, bitter and sweet. Fancy chocolate esque.

Good body to it. Not overly heavy.

What I would like to drink on a farm after a hard day.

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3.47/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a 22oz bomber and served in a shaker. This beer poured a deep, dark, mahogany brown hue with a thin head of tan foam that quickly faded into a lasting ring. Some clingy lace was left around the glass. The aroma of the beer was made up of toasted caramel, light chocolate, brown sugar, and some fruit. The flavor consisted of bittersweet chocolate, lightly bitter roasted malts, caramelized sugar, dark fruits, and a bit of alcohol. The mouthfeel was medium to full-bodied with minimal carbonation. Different and a little unusual. Way over the top for the style, but that's what the brewer intended.

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4.18/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours brown to dark brown…nice tan khaki head, a good inch wide…long lasting too, I might add…tons of good carbonation with this ale…(4.25/5)

Smell: Initially there isn’t too much smell happening…most likely because of the awesome head that sticking around…even after head recedes, there isn’t too much aroma…fruity and malty scents in there if I really dig my nose all up in there…(3.5/5)

Taste: Nice, smooth roasted malts…there’s an earthiness to it…hops shows halfway through and does a fantastic balancing job…piney and mildly bitter after taste…there seems to be a smidge of chocolate, cherry and creamy flavors in there as well….(4.25/5)

Mouthfeel: Great carbonation…fluffs up real nice and settles well on the palette…no bitterness or over-maltiness here…flavor and feel doesn’t last long…sorta entices the mouth for another sip…(3.75/5)

Overall: Two Brothers does it again…this is a great ale…the flavor is dynamic and well rounded…I know that there’s a bit higher ABV here, but it’s not overly dominate like some in this range…malts and hops balance so nicely…this beer is absolutely perfect while watching Tom Brady do his thing versus, well, anybody…great beer, hope I find another before it’s gone…(4/5)

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4.04/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: deep mahogany, brilliantly clear; thin ivory head.
Smell: Very slight sweet malt aroma; no hop aroma whatsoever.
Taste: Roast and chocolate malts dominate, with hints of coffee and licorice; very clean with minimal esters; slight alcohol burn; no hop taste or bitterness up front, but blunt bitter finish.
Mouthfeel: Rather full, especially for an Altbier.
Drinkability: Hides its alcohol well; at 7.8% ABV, I can easily drink the 22 oz. bomber in one sitting.

Overall: I'm thrilled to see an American craft brewer attempting a Sticke Altbier. While I've only had a few other varietals (and I'm using Zum Uerige as the standard), this seems a bit too malty to fit the style. A more pronounced noble hop presence along with a slightly thinner body would put this in the same league as anything from Duesseldorf. Style guidelines aside, the beer is delicious. I would almost categorize it as an ale equivalent of a Doppelbock. It's not going to displace Zum Uerige Sticke in my cellar, but a wonderful offering in its own right.

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Victor's MemoriAle Altbier from Two Brothers Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 53 ratings.