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Moaten - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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73
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124 Ratings
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Ratings: 124
Reviews: 99
rAvg: 3.1
pDev: 20%
Wants: 3
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Nickls on 07-31-2009)
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Reviews by botham:
Photo of botham
3.03/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

bottle poured into a tasting glass. pours a reddish amber with a single finger of eggshell colored head with no retention or lacings.

aroma is grassy with distant fruit and some yeast. somewhat stale in the nose without any real flanders-red-like characteristics. a distant funk and a lightly meaty note round out the profile. upon some warming, the bottle smells quite skunked.

taste is lightly fruity with a light sour note and skunky grassy notes. mildly bland without much character. this may need some time to age, but nothing about it indicates that it will be much better with time.

mouthfeel is medium bodied with a bland ad lightly tart texture.

drinkability is decent. somewhat bland without much for the palate or nose. age this one for a while and see what happens; hopefully it gets better, because this was far from being a great Flanders Red.

More User Reviews:
Photo of orbitalr0x
2.73/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Not much pop when the cork is pulled. Deep clear dark garnet pour with only a few bubbles on top that becomes a ring quickly. Aromas of semi sweet caramel malts and toasty accents. Cherries and fruit with a very mild oaky backbone. Toffee flirts in as well.

First sip brings sweet malts upfront with toffee and bready notes. Fruit flavors with some cherry and grape. No real oak or tartness in the flavor at all. Tastes more like an amber to me than anything. The only differential is the fruitiness. Finishes with a mellow sweetness.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and a bit slick. Mellow carbonation. Overall it was a bit hard for me to finish. A bit of a mess and not near what I want in a Flemish red.

Photo of tigg924
4.22/5  rDev +36.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: dark amber in color, minimal head and carbonation head, clear

Smell: granny smith apple, dark fruit, and sour mix

Taste: granny smith apple, dark fruit, and sour mix, a touch of oak towards the end

Mouthfeel: smooth, no carbonation, semi-sour

Drinkability: This is a light intro sour which I could have several of. There is a nice fruity mix with the touch of sour. I get a good sour sensation throughout, but not enough to pucker.

Photo of danman83
3.73/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Tulip Glass

Appearance - Deep burnt red brass, pours with mild carbonation accumulating a dense khaki head with mediocre retention.

Smell - Fruity like a sour green apple with a hint of banana.

Taste - The initial touch of the tongue immediately reminds me of a lambic but the finish is sweeter with more malt than tart.

Mouthfeel - mild and smooth with minimal carbonation

Drinkability - Very nice beer that would accompany many meals and snacks well without being overpowering. A nice subtle sour that keeps it from being too sweet for my tastes.

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.65/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appears a deep ruby mahogany brownish red hue with a light off white khaki head, the lacing is fine and even a magnificent peace of work. Aroma has tart cherries dark malts in the background, but it's pretty subtle not too funky in the grand scheme of sour red ales. Flavor has a rounded tart brown slash red ale the flavors are ridden of funk but lack the sour puckering mouthfeel that should come with the mouthfeel, I've loved brews from both of these brewers so that's why I've decided to pick up a bottle of their collaboration ale. I love Flemish style sour ales but this one doesn't hit the acidity. Mouthfeel is clean bodied but the overall carbonation level leaves a smooth semi sweet flavor that doesn't bring a dry mouth puckering sour ale note. Drinkability overall was fine but it didn't bring the experience that I equate to as a sour red Flemish ale, it was way too subdued but good in it's own right, if that makes sense.

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.53/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer pours a deep brown body with a red hint which is clear but dense. There is a thin wisp of head that swirls around the glass and is supported by a gentle carbonation.
S- The soft hint of fruity tartness turns more cidery when warm and it is otherwise pretty clean.
T- The soft apple tartness hint has some faint malt notes underneath and is well blended with a soft brie rind to follow. There is a nice tart soft bite in the finish that grows a bit as the beer warms.
M- This beer has a medium light mouthfeel with no alcohol heat at all.
D- This beer has more apple qualities than any funk or depth of flavor or aroma.

Photo of acurtis
2.5/5  rDev -19.4%

Photo of Stigs
2.3/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12.7oz corked-bottle...served in a Duvel tulip

A - pours with about a half inch of frothy light tan foam...sitting atop a clear, dark ruby/brownish/purpley colored beer. very minor active bubbling. eventually settles to a thin layer of film and bubbly ring around the outside.

S - lots of minerals, grain here. only a slight twinge of cherries, vanilla, soap. just a tiny hint of sourness that mostly gets lost in everything else.

T - odd. a bit funky, not typical Belgian yeast funk but more cheese or mold like. some vanilla like sweetness, joined by a bit of cherries, vinegar. on a scale of 1-10, sour/tartness is about a 2. dominated by a bland bread malt bed. ive had this one before and can remember it being a bit better.

M - slightly creamy and medium bodied...kind of chalky. carbonation is on the lighter side.

D - not good. struggling to make it halfway through the bottle. just uninteresting, bland, and weird. hopefully my drain likes this better than i do.

Photo of GDBEERMAN
3.85/5  rDev +24.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12.7oz bottle into snifter. From Notes
A: A hazy amber body, with a thin foamy head is left. Fluffy lacing.
S: A red aroma, one of cherry and spices. A bit subtle. A Belgian from the aroma.
T/M: A nice sour on the front, finishing with a mild red, amber finish. Slight oak notes as the brew warms. A silky mouthfeel.
D: A very nice and drinkable sour, smooth on the palate and a well hidden ABV.

Photo of dirtylou
3.5/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12.7oz bottle, scooped in chicago over the summer...been kind of sitting in the cellar fridge due to the low rating and underwhelming experience on tap in august

corked and caged green bottle, Two Brothers / Urthel collaboration

appearance: served in my hopleaf tulip, dull pink-red body, light beige ring, mostly clear

smell: you can really tell that Urthel is involved - their token yeast strains are very evident in the aroma...acidic, doughy, beets, herbal...odd stuff

taste: kind of a bad version of furthermore thermo refur...some cloying sweetness, grain, dough, beets and other misplaced vegetables, the "oak aged" effect isnt very well pronounced. overpriced for this one - not one of two brother finest moments

mouthfeel: acidic, a bit sweet

drinkability: ok

Photo of tempest
3.08/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to Keith for sharing. I have to say, this is no Flanders Red Ale. It's not bad beer, but it's bad for the style. There's just a dry, slightly sour note and a sauerkraut aroma. There's a touch or caramel and cocoa notes, not very fruity. I'm not sure what's going on here, but it just comes off like a dry amber ale with a little Belgian influence.

Photo of dbossman
3.33/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Cherry red with a touch of brownish hue; a thin tan head that collects more to the side; fairly bubbly and the lacing is good

S: Tart cherries and lemon juice pervade the aromas; there is also a subtle vinegar quality that sits on top of a grainy funk

T: Not as sour/tart as I hoped; actually it has a funky-bad sour quality--like old lemon juice; all of the promising characteristics from the aroma fall flat

F: Quite thin and watery; carbonation seems off too

D: Although not what I hoped for, it still is somewhat refreshing on a hot day, but the staleness does wear on you

Photo of kkrez
4/5  rDev +29%

Photo of nickd717
2.93/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Bottle via trade thanks to deliriumfest.

Pours clear deep red with a small off-white head and good lacing.

Aroma is a little weak with tart cherries, grainy notes, and some oak.

Flavor is a bit weird and not very sour at all. Sweet cherries, grain, spices, oak, and some cardboardy oxidation.

Not great on the palate - fairly light and not at all acidic.

Drinkability is average. Overall, this is not awful, but it's really not to style.

Photo of kenito799
3.23/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Drank this camping, poured into plastic cups.

Looks teh part, reddish brown with almost no head. The aroma is cooked cherry, no characteristic funk to speak of. On teh palate a thin dry cherry, not bad, but lacking the sour funkiness expected of the style. Not bad but not very interesting. Nice try, need to refine the effort.

Photo of Vonerichs
3.58/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I'll start by saying I'm not versed in the style, but this was an enjoyable beer. I understand from other reviews this may not be a good representation of the style.

Pours a mohagany color with a one finger head despite an aggressive pour.

There's a strong malt presence in the smell that gives way to a combonation of cherry and a belgian yeast.

The taste is slightly tannic and tart, but I was expecting more of a sourness. The predominant tastes are a fruity ester of dark cherries and a yeast twang. The malt has a heafty presence, too. There's a subtle wood taste from the oak, but it's very light.

Mouthfeel is slightly acidic and well carbonated. Finish is crisp.

Good flavor and I was not picking up much alcohol. I enjoyed drinking this and found it easy to consume.

Kudos to the bros for exploring new styles and being creative. I wish I had a baseline to compare it to. I understand from others this may not be an accurate representation of a Flanders Red, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

Photo of GRG1313
3/5  rDev -3.2%

Photo of SpdKilz
2.73/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Randomly found at a store (looks like they found a lost case) and picked up only because I’d heard how bad it was. Split with my brother-in-law.

Appearance – Pours into a matching pair of tulips with a reddish brown, mahogany color. About half finger of slight white fizzy head is achieved with a moderate pour.

Smell – Literally nothing. There is almost zero aroma, and what I do get does not remind one of a flanders. Slight fruity aroma and sweet malts – that’s it.

Taste – Yikes. I went in here knowing this wasn’t the best but I was not expecting it to be this bad. Just a hint of cherry flavor, and heavy sweetness. Literally no tart or sour characteristics.

Mouthfeel – Lighter bodied, fizzy.

Overall – We drain poured this. I was at least hoping it would have been drinkable but it really was just horrible. Avoid.

Photo of emerge077
3.13/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Purrs into a Duvel tulip with a finger of off white latte foam. A broken skim appears on the surface after a couple minutes. First whiff from the bottle was a minerally wet stone smell, now it's just a nondescript Belgian brown ale aroma, nothing especially funky or sour about it.

Taste is estery from the yeast, some weak cherry, both hefty malt and yeast presence. Malt flavor has a bit of stale graininess to it. Watery and thin... Maybe .02% sour. It's more of a cherry Belgian Brown Ale than Flanders Red. Maybe it needs more time in the barrel...the Opus 10 was barrel-aged and one of my favorite 2 Bros. brews, but "Oak Aged Sour" on the label is misleading.

This is the biggest "unsour" sour ale letdown since Dark Kriek from New Belgium. Not worth trying again, unless they put out a truly sour batch.

Photo of jsh420
2.08/5  rDev -32.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

pours a very light redish brown with a 1 finger head that fades fast

smells watery - cherries and some wheat?

tstaste - ? i guess this is a flanders red because the label says so? - but to me it tases like a light hefe with cherries???

mouthfeel is thin watery - the cabonation was right though

drinikability is low - price is too high and the flavor sucks

this beer = epic fail

Photo of leprakhan
3/5  rDev -3.2%

Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.28/5  rDev +38.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12.7 corked bottle poured into a Unibroue Tulip. No date or info to be seen.

A - This clear ruby brown ale poured moderately only produced a one-finger head. Creamy and pale tan, it had so-so retention but left a thin layer throughout and small spots of lacing.

S - An acidic and sour yeasty aroma pours out with lots of nuances to be discovered. A very fruity background slight off-sets the sour aroma. Pale malts and light wheat in the grist. Plum and light peach with a dark cherry are muted coming out more after some agitation. Light woody and earth tones with a bit of dry straw and horseblanket.

T - On a deep first gulp it brought instant acidity and sourness to the table but it's complexities run much deeper. Dark cherries and plums, like the aroma, are there with a yeasty lightly buttery, dough malt backbone. It's not as sour as I was expecting for my first Flanders but it's definitely different. Based on style guidelines, it's incredibly solid.

M - Creamy as churned butter and smooth as velvet, this beer goes down very nicely and does a nice throat-coating. The acidity gives it a sour finish.

D - If you can get passed the light sour flavor (which isn't bad at all) it's a very good and drinkable beer with great complexities woven in the background. Great collaboration brew!

Photo of CaptainNomihodai
3/5  rDev -3.2%

Photo of GREGER
3.5/5  rDev +12.9%

Photo of mikesgroove
3.68/5  rDev +18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Saw this one meandering around in my fridge and wanted to try something a but different last night so grabbed it out. Corked and caged 375 were served chilled in an oversized wine glass, consumed on 12/09/2009.
 
The pour was nice, rich dark brown and reddish in color with a decent head of brown on top that settled in very nicely, but did not leave much in the way of side lacing. Aroma showed no signs of sourness at all. Lots of maple sugar like aromas mixed with hints of prunes and a touch of grape skin as it warms, but where is the sour? As I take the first sip I am left confused by the style here. It is a wonderful brown ale, nice sweetness and a good use of dark fruit flavor here, and the grapes are coming in nicely now, but I just don't see it. Its missing a punch or a kick to it. Subtle, dry finish with a nice melding of flavors that leaves a bit of a sweet touch on the back of the tongue, but nothing else really exciting. Smooth, and easily session able, but just a miss for the style.


Overall I really liked this, but I am not sure on the labeling though. It was a quality offering, but at times I am just unsure of where it was supposed to go.

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Moaten from Two Brothers Brewing Company
73 out of 100 based on 124 ratings.