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Moaten - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
73
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124 Ratings
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Ratings: 124
Reviews: 99
rAvg: 3.1
pDev: 20%
Wants: 3
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Nickls on 07-31-2009)
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Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.28/5  rDev +38.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12.7 corked bottle poured into a Unibroue Tulip. No date or info to be seen.

A - This clear ruby brown ale poured moderately only produced a one-finger head. Creamy and pale tan, it had so-so retention but left a thin layer throughout and small spots of lacing.

S - An acidic and sour yeasty aroma pours out with lots of nuances to be discovered. A very fruity background slight off-sets the sour aroma. Pale malts and light wheat in the grist. Plum and light peach with a dark cherry are muted coming out more after some agitation. Light woody and earth tones with a bit of dry straw and horseblanket.

T - On a deep first gulp it brought instant acidity and sourness to the table but it's complexities run much deeper. Dark cherries and plums, like the aroma, are there with a yeasty lightly buttery, dough malt backbone. It's not as sour as I was expecting for my first Flanders but it's definitely different. Based on style guidelines, it's incredibly solid.

M - Creamy as churned butter and smooth as velvet, this beer goes down very nicely and does a nice throat-coating. The acidity gives it a sour finish.

D - If you can get passed the light sour flavor (which isn't bad at all) it's a very good and drinkable beer with great complexities woven in the background. Great collaboration brew!

BeerFMAndy, Aug 17, 2009
Photo of tigg924
4.22/5  rDev +36.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: dark amber in color, minimal head and carbonation head, clear

Smell: granny smith apple, dark fruit, and sour mix

Taste: granny smith apple, dark fruit, and sour mix, a touch of oak towards the end

Mouthfeel: smooth, no carbonation, semi-sour

Drinkability: This is a light intro sour which I could have several of. There is a nice fruity mix with the touch of sour. I get a good sour sensation throughout, but not enough to pucker.

tigg924, Nov 02, 2009
Photo of GbVDave
4.1/5  rDev +32.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a corked and caged, 12.7oz bottle into a Mikkeller tulip.

A: Pours a rusty, reddish-brown with a 1/2 finger of off-white cream perched on top. Retention was fleeting and what was quickly left was a thin ring that left a few layers of pretty lace behind.

S: Aromas of cherries, sodden oak, spices, and fruity yeast. No nose hair curling scents of sour vinegar were to be sniffed, but this was very pleasing in its' own way.

T: Black cherry, spices, fruity yeast, oak, and toasty malt. Not sour or puckery on the least, but again, very pleasant.

M: Starts sweet and quickly some peppery spices kick in. As the bottom of the glass quickly approached, I found a bit of cherry tartness during the middle. The finish continued the fruity theme but took a turn towards the dry side.

D: I don't know if this turned out the way 2 Bros. & Urthel intended. But who cares? What they turned out is incredibly drinkable. Neither brewery is really known for their sours (yeah, ok 10 from 2 Bros. was awesome but that was a one off from a while ago) so I think some folks may have set their expectations a little too high?

GbVDave, Aug 11, 2009
Photo of garymuchow
4.05/5  rDev +30.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Hopefully not too old. I've have for 2 months, but not sure how long in store.
Malty, sour and berry type fruit in aroma. Typical tartness and slight aroma of yeast.
Smallish darker than white head with a density and creaminess. Relatively clear and glows red in light.
I like the initial malt sweetness, fruit and creaminess of the first part of the drink. It's really nice. There is a dampness too the sour character, although it does kick in half-way and fades slowly through the finish. The red berry flavor is good. The dryness is brief with the finish holding nice flavors of the berry. A mild spice in the flavor, like cinnamon.
Good creaminess of the carbonation. Smooth and soft. Nice feel.
Boy, this one drinks really nicely. Smooth and flavorful. I can't believe how fast this goes down.
Based upon the score I wasn't sure about this, but this is worth buying again.

garymuchow, Dec 27, 2010
Photo of CHSLBrew
4.05/5  rDev +30.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle poured into a small red wine glass. Enjoyed while preparing for duck openner up at the cabin.

A-Poured with a minimal head on an easy pour, leaving a consistent off-white collar. A more vigorous pour yielded a better head, frothy and cloud-like, pale white. This beer was a clear, slightly hazed copper-red brew.

S-Bread and biscuity, cracker, slight spicy-sour, but in the eaves of the aroma, a bit of funkiness emerges, which continues to grow as the beer warms.

T-Funky-sour right off the bat in this beer's flavor. Malt foundation is slightly bready with a hint of toasty toffee into the finish. The most prominent flavor is most certainly the funky sourness. Finishes relatively dry, with a slight funk that dissipates quickly. This brew is quite tasty, indeed.

M-Medium-high carbonation, it appeared to have more carbonation that I perceived when drinking it. Medium body, pleasant.

D-I think this is a very tasty brew. A nice funkiness, exactly what I like about Flanders red brews, bolsters this beer's refreshing characteristics.

CHSLBrew, Oct 08, 2009
Photo of kkrez
4/5  rDev +29%

kkrez, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of bamadog
4/5  rDev +29%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle to a tulip.

Appearance: When I pulled the cork, there was a light popping noise and very little fizz; pour is a light coppery/ruby concoction with some dark brown hues at the top; starts with a one finger, slightly off-white, head that fades pretty quickly to a thin and uneven skim; body is a little hazy; loose swaths of spotty lacing are present; very minimal carbonation is visibly present.

Smell: Slightly musty; a lot of tart and acidic fruity esthers that are just a touch sour (reminiscent of mostly apple and some elements of cherry); no real "funk" aspect like I was expecting, but I don't really know why I was expecting it either.

Taste: Not too shabby -- nice tart apple and cherry-like flavors that end on a slightly sour note; overall the fruit flavors are acidic; nice overall and not hard to drink at all; again, no "funk" to it, but the sour flavors are nice and not too intense at all. I think for someone who has very limited exposure to sours, this is a great start for me.

Mouthfeel: Body is light overall; carbonation is interesting, not really strong or sharp, yet still potent despite being absent to the eye; slight pucker is left due to the tartness and my mouth is left watering at first and then dries with a slight film at the end; gums are left tingly and the belly is left a little warm due to the acidity.

Drinkability: Not sure why, but as I mentioned earlier I really expected a bit more funkiness to this, but in terms of what's sour and how the style description reads, it's pretty spot on. I really enjoyed it and could get through a bottle with little problem, but the acidity might become a bit much after a while and cause some heartburn.

bamadog, Jan 05, 2010
Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev +29%

JAHMUR, Nov 25, 2011
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4/5  rDev +29%

markrmoser, Nov 17, 2011
Photo of dfillius
3.95/5  rDev +27.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a goblet
A: No release of carbonation when corked :-( Clear, slightly claret hued brown liquid. Very little head leaves very little trace of a ring in very little time. More head please.
S: Molasses, fruit, tart lactic acid, clovees, hard to find aroma sometimes - minus points for that.
T: Sweet and malty is checked by the tartness. Cherry. Not as tart as other examples of the style I've tried. Very tasty, but with an odd flavor in the back of my mouth. Tarter please.
M: Sweet and chewy with a dry finish.
D: Tasty, but not attractive enough or tasty enough to buy again. I might order a second.

dfillius, Oct 18, 2009
Photo of TubaManJack
3.95/5  rDev +27.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

At the Tap House in a standard pint glass.

Appearance- A standard clear brown amber body. A limited amount of tan head, which dissipates. Decent lacing on the glass and a bit of carbonation apparent.
Smell- A bit of funk between tartness and horse blanket. A bit of deep fruit. Any grain scent was well suppressed.
Taste- Restrained sourness held back by tartness. A light blend of dark dried fruit helped counter the stronger textbook amber ale body.
Mouthfeel- Smooth with only a touch of carbonation. It also has a slight tart finish.
Drinkability- This is my first of the style so I don't know how it compares, however it was a solid beer. It was a great balance between something drinkable and slightly complex. Great beer.

TubaManJack, Aug 26, 2009
Photo of mactrail
3.93/5  rDev +26.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A fruity amber beer of mixed parentage.

Big foam-up but it dissipates to a very nice rich carbonation. Looks quite nice in the glass with dark coppery color, Good mouthfeel. I don't detect much sourness, but the tart edge does go well with the maltiness. I do like the fruity cherry tang. An edge of bitterness, but fortunately neither too sweet nor too bitter.

This is a strange one and if you're going by the style book you will be unfulfilled. But it's a richly flavored beer that keeps you guessing and to me, very drinkable. It would be great with a steak and an interesting salad. They went to a lot of trouble with this 12.7 oz bottle and the little cork. Pabst should check into this to buy the recipe for a Champale flavor.

mactrail, Oct 30, 2010
Photo of BirdFlu
3.9/5  rDev +25.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Very red-orange pour with little-to-no head. Aroma is light, some tart sourness you can pick up but really not much at all. Not bad just sort of blank. Flavor is tart like grapefruit and sour candy. A very fruity presence. Mouth is very nice, very smooth with sour feeling and a very good level of carbonation. The beer's strongpoint. Very smooth drink and tasty, you could easily drink a lot but it could easily also have some more robust traits.

BirdFlu, Oct 27, 2009
Photo of GDBEERMAN
3.85/5  rDev +24.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12.7oz bottle into snifter. From Notes
A: A hazy amber body, with a thin foamy head is left. Fluffy lacing.
S: A red aroma, one of cherry and spices. A bit subtle. A Belgian from the aroma.
T/M: A nice sour on the front, finishing with a mild red, amber finish. Slight oak notes as the brew warms. A silky mouthfeel.
D: A very nice and drinkable sour, smooth on the palate and a well hidden ABV.

GDBEERMAN, Sep 21, 2010
Photo of ne0m00re
3.78/5  rDev +21.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured the 12.2 oz into an oversized red wine glass to capture the aroma.
A: Deep red with golden hues. It poured with a medium cream head that died to a film and lace.
S: Sour apples, grape juice, bready and yeasty malts, raspberry, but if nothing else, FRENCH ONION SOUP. Weird, huh?
T: The taste is pungent like cheese with a bit of that rustic horse saddle flavor. There is a mild sourness of apples--but more like MacIntosh or Jonathan and not Granny Smith. It is very well balanced and almost savory.
M: Slightly syrupy with crisp carbonation.
D: Decent.

ne0m00re, Mar 27, 2010
Photo of peensteen
3.75/5  rDev +21%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a light mahogany, with a withe soapy head, some lacing. Smells of cherry slight funk, nice sour notes and something that is barley wine like, not much oak comes out in the nose. Taste is tart, good sourness, cherry, apple and a slight sweetness, no oak is detectable on the palate either. Thin mouthfeel, watery at points and at other times syrupy. Drinks fairly well, not the best sour I've had but far from the worst, I think I would try this again.

peensteen, Mar 08, 2011
Photo of capra12
3.75/5  rDev +21%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed solo at the Gingerman from notes taken that day.

Appearance: Mohagundy with little head but left great lacing.

Smell: Earthy with hints of sweet green fruit and sour notes.

Taste: Opens rather malty with subtle earthy sour notes which come in towards the middle end leaving a tangy and sour aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Light to medium bodied with minimal carbonation and smooth.

Drinkability: I would have this again and recommend this to those seeking a sour open and finishes withe hints of malt.

capra12, Dec 21, 2009
Photo of danman83
3.73/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Tulip Glass

Appearance - Deep burnt red brass, pours with mild carbonation accumulating a dense khaki head with mediocre retention.

Smell - Fruity like a sour green apple with a hint of banana.

Taste - The initial touch of the tongue immediately reminds me of a lambic but the finish is sweeter with more malt than tart.

Mouthfeel - mild and smooth with minimal carbonation

Drinkability - Very nice beer that would accompany many meals and snacks well without being overpowering. A nice subtle sour that keeps it from being too sweet for my tastes.

danman83, Jan 03, 2010
Photo of vrazionale
3.7/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12.7 oz. bottle at refrigerator temperature poured into a snifter.

A - Pours a hazy rusty brown body with a thin layer of off-white head that quickly recedes to the edges.

S - Oaky vanilla, cherry, brown sugar, musty wild-yeast funk, apple cider vinegar, musky sweat, and old leather. Pleasant, dirty, and dark. Develops a spicy profile as it warms.

T - The attack is well-balanced between tart and sweet, but the finish has a clumsy, lingering sweetness. The oak flavors are subtle but pleasing - vanilla, cherry, and caramelized sugar all make their quiet presence felt.

M - I know that Flanders reds generally don't have effervescent carbonation, but this could use a slight increase in its carbonation - as it is, the brew feels sticky and cloying, and could use some carbonation to lift this feeling off of the palate.

D - Fans of Flanders red ales might not find anything terrifically exciting here, but still a very respectable and drinkable brew. I'd pair this brew with a hunk of Stichelton to help bring out some of the musty and spicy flavors in the brew.

vrazionale, Sep 21, 2009
Photo of spointon
3.7/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I had this one on tap at The Auld Dubliner in Bolingbrook, IL last night - poured into a wine glass.

A= This ale poured a deep russet red/brown color with pretty much zero head but an obvious tiny bubble carbonation release. No lacing of note.

S= Smelled of fruity tartness and malty sweetness. Some light phenolics in there too as well as a hint of spice.

T= Sort of a light malt, tart thing going on here. The malt base was slightly caramelly but certainly stayed in the background. The tart notes were reminiscent of cherry, plum, and wood. Mildly vinous. Finished dry and tart.

MF= Medium body with a light but crisp mouthfeel.

D= A decent flanders red for sure, but it was certainly on the subdued end of things. Very tasty all the same.

spointon, Sep 07, 2009
Photo of mikesgroove
3.68/5  rDev +18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Saw this one meandering around in my fridge and wanted to try something a but different last night so grabbed it out. Corked and caged 375 were served chilled in an oversized wine glass, consumed on 12/09/2009.
 
The pour was nice, rich dark brown and reddish in color with a decent head of brown on top that settled in very nicely, but did not leave much in the way of side lacing. Aroma showed no signs of sourness at all. Lots of maple sugar like aromas mixed with hints of prunes and a touch of grape skin as it warms, but where is the sour? As I take the first sip I am left confused by the style here. It is a wonderful brown ale, nice sweetness and a good use of dark fruit flavor here, and the grapes are coming in nicely now, but I just don't see it. Its missing a punch or a kick to it. Subtle, dry finish with a nice melding of flavors that leaves a bit of a sweet touch on the back of the tongue, but nothing else really exciting. Smooth, and easily session able, but just a miss for the style.


Overall I really liked this, but I am not sure on the labeling though. It was a quality offering, but at times I am just unsure of where it was supposed to go.

mikesgroove, Dec 10, 2009
Photo of WVbeergeek
3.65/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appears a deep ruby mahogany brownish red hue with a light off white khaki head, the lacing is fine and even a magnificent peace of work. Aroma has tart cherries dark malts in the background, but it's pretty subtle not too funky in the grand scheme of sour red ales. Flavor has a rounded tart brown slash red ale the flavors are ridden of funk but lack the sour puckering mouthfeel that should come with the mouthfeel, I've loved brews from both of these brewers so that's why I've decided to pick up a bottle of their collaboration ale. I love Flemish style sour ales but this one doesn't hit the acidity. Mouthfeel is clean bodied but the overall carbonation level leaves a smooth semi sweet flavor that doesn't bring a dry mouth puckering sour ale note. Drinkability overall was fine but it didn't bring the experience that I equate to as a sour red Flemish ale, it was way too subdued but good in it's own right, if that makes sense.

WVbeergeek, Mar 22, 2010
Photo of feloniousmonk
3.65/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

"Chicago Meets Flanders"...

Velvet coloring, lightly clouded, very bright, smallish head above.

sour cherry aromatics, cloaked by oak...a little sweet, then more sour.

Taste: more of the same, the cherry flavor's there, and the tug of war between sweet and sour. This is no intense puckeration, and was not intended to be, I hasten to add. Nothing everything needs to be a lip bruiser. With each meeting of glass and lip, more sour smack, a slap of sweet, a twist of oakiness, then it softly pulls back.
Tasty malt, no hops, woody flavors permeate.
That has to be the main flaw in this Flemish Red, that there's not enough staying power in the flavor. Fades too fast, doesn't make as strong of an impression and really hang in there.
but, then, it's only a flaw if it wasn't intentional. This was designed as an easier-drinking, lighter, more approachable Flemish Red. And it works on that level.

feloniousmonk, Nov 23, 2009
Photo of metter98
3.63/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is very cloudy red in color and has some yeast particles floating near the bottom of the glass. It poured with a finger high off white head that has excellent retention properties and left a thick head covering the surface and thick lacing down the sides of the glass.
S: There are light to moderately strong aromas of sour cherries in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has sour flavors of cherries along with notes of oak. The sourness is not very strong.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and a bit acidic on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is not as sour and acidic compared to other beers in the style and could make for a nice selection on a summer day.

metter98, Feb 12, 2012
Photo of mdwalsh
3.63/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A; Pours a large (3+ finger) head that's a pale tan. The body is brownish-red with lots of active carbonation. It's slightly hazy, but not much. The head is almost too big and sticks around too long. It gets better on subsequent pours.

S: I actually get a lot of fruity, citrusy aromas and not the strong acidic sour that I expected. There's some pineapple, and even a little musty smell, but not vinegar or any of the traditional Flemish smells. It's enjoyable, but not appropriate to me.

T: Again, this is more like fruit juice gone bad than a well made Flemish Red. I get a lot of tropical fruit and berries, not much acidity or sourness at all. The flavor is a little weak, and I don't get much sharpness but instead a well rounded mineral taste, but it's still good, just not what I want from something called a Flemish Red.

M: Good body, on the favorable side of sours for me. But, not appropriate for sours.

D: I like this beer, but I wouldn't call it a Flemish Ale, which they unfortunately do. I think it would be a great way to introduce people to sours though, so I give it ok ratings.

mdwalsh, May 19, 2010
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Moaten from Two Brothers Brewing Company
73 out of 100 based on 124 ratings.