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Moaten - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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73
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124 Ratings
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Ratings: 124
Reviews: 99
rAvg: 3.11
pDev: 19.94%
Wants: 3
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Nickls on 07-31-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.
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Photo of t0rin0
2.75/5  rDev -11.6%

Photo of acurtis
2.5/5  rDev -19.6%

Photo of GRG1313
3/5  rDev -3.5%

Photo of nmann08
2.5/5  rDev -19.6%

Photo of Thorpe429
2.43/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Reviewed from notes. On tap at the brewpub.

Pours a moderate reddish brown color with a thin light tan head and not much lacing. The nose brings cherries and a bit of earth as well as some light acetic and lactic notes. The taste is mild cherry, bread, hints of caramel, and a bit of sourness. Mouthfeel brings slight sourness and a bit of cream. Drinks okay, but really not a very good collaboration.

Photo of metter98
3.63/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is very cloudy red in color and has some yeast particles floating near the bottom of the glass. It poured with a finger high off white head that has excellent retention properties and left a thick head covering the surface and thick lacing down the sides of the glass.
S: There are light to moderately strong aromas of sour cherries in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has sour flavors of cherries along with notes of oak. The sourness is not very strong.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and a bit acidic on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is not as sour and acidic compared to other beers in the style and could make for a nice selection on a summer day.

Photo of brentk56
3.05/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: After a dull thud when the cork was popped, I expected this to be flat but it did manage to provide about an inch of foam that sits atop the strikingly clear russet colored liquid; decent spotting on the glass, too

Smell: Whiffs of oaky cherries and mineral water

Taste: Oaked cherry juice, with a sweet/tart character that builds by mid-palate, though it is very restrained; after the swallow, the sweetness actually wins out as the tart flavors fade to the background

Mouthfeel: Light to medium body with low to moderate carbonation; slightly cloying

Drinkability: A beer that masquerades as a Flemish sour, unfortunately; too bad, as the collaboration could have held so much promise

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.06/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Ferric oxide orange with a brick red influence as well. After a barely audible 'pop' on cork extraction, cap creation wasn't expected to be great. Actually, it looks damn good: two fingers thick, golden ecru, and lace that looks like lace.

Sorry, but this Flanders red ale (by way of Chicago, IL) doesn't smell like a Flanders red ale. It isn't very fruity and isn't sour at all. What we have is an earthy oakiness... and that's about it. Not bad, just not to style.

Moaten does not get it done on the palate either. With Hildegard van Ostaden (of Urthel fame) collaborating, one would have thought that Two Brothers could have come up with something better than this. One would be wrong.

The flavor profile is incredibly simple and is too sweet besides. Well, maybe not sweet, but definitely not tart. There's a little 'red malt' flavor, a hint of earthy fruitiness, and a quasi-drying finish. If the world's best versions are college graduates, Moaten just got held back in sixth grade.

I still don't have a great sense of what a Flanders red mouthfeel should feel like. This one is no more than light-medium and the carbonation gives up way too early. Despite decent head creation, there weren't many bubbles to begin with.

Moaten is Flemish for 'friends'. Maybe my moaten will like this beer better than I did. For $6.99 and a cork-and-cage, much more was expected than was delivered. Note to Two Brothers: no need for an encore performance.

Photo of mikesgroove
3.68/5  rDev +18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Saw this one meandering around in my fridge and wanted to try something a but different last night so grabbed it out. Corked and caged 375 were served chilled in an oversized wine glass, consumed on 12/09/2009.
 
The pour was nice, rich dark brown and reddish in color with a decent head of brown on top that settled in very nicely, but did not leave much in the way of side lacing. Aroma showed no signs of sourness at all. Lots of maple sugar like aromas mixed with hints of prunes and a touch of grape skin as it warms, but where is the sour? As I take the first sip I am left confused by the style here. It is a wonderful brown ale, nice sweetness and a good use of dark fruit flavor here, and the grapes are coming in nicely now, but I just don't see it. Its missing a punch or a kick to it. Subtle, dry finish with a nice melding of flavors that leaves a bit of a sweet touch on the back of the tongue, but nothing else really exciting. Smooth, and easily session able, but just a miss for the style.


Overall I really liked this, but I am not sure on the labeling though. It was a quality offering, but at times I am just unsure of where it was supposed to go.

Photo of womencantsail
2.93/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: The pour is reddish brown, but perhaps a bit on the light site. A big light tan head results as well.

S: Certainly fruity, but more along the lines of apples and even citrus which seems quite out of place for the style. A bit of tartness and acidity, but nothing really Flanders red about it.

T: The flavor is very strange. It's almost like apple sauce and pennies, which I have never tasted in a beer before. A bit of sweetness and a bit of "tartness", if you can call it that.

M: The body is light with a very high, soda-like carbonation.

D: This is not at all what I was expecting, nor did I really like it. This just did not really have any characteristics of the style, with the exception of the appearance (to an extent).

Photo of emerge077
3.13/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Purrs into a Duvel tulip with a finger of off white latte foam. A broken skim appears on the surface after a couple minutes. First whiff from the bottle was a minerally wet stone smell, now it's just a nondescript Belgian brown ale aroma, nothing especially funky or sour about it.

Taste is estery from the yeast, some weak cherry, both hefty malt and yeast presence. Malt flavor has a bit of stale graininess to it. Watery and thin... Maybe .02% sour. It's more of a cherry Belgian Brown Ale than Flanders Red. Maybe it needs more time in the barrel...the Opus 10 was barrel-aged and one of my favorite 2 Bros. brews, but "Oak Aged Sour" on the label is misleading.

This is the biggest "unsour" sour ale letdown since Dark Kriek from New Belgium. Not worth trying again, unless they put out a truly sour batch.

Photo of TMoney2591
2.95/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a "tulip" glass (I'll figure out what to really call this thing some day) at Durty Nellie's.

I couldn't remember what I came here for, so I decided on this as a nice backup option. It pours a clear dark sunset amber topped by a maximum of a half-finger of dirty white foam. The nose comprises light caramel, port, prickly grapefruit (a la Squirt), and what seems like light cayenne. The taste holds notes of ruby red grapefruit, very mild vinegar, spicy (the only adjective that comes to mind) red wine, clove, and light orange peel. These elements do not meld well at all. The body is a lazy medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a finish that seems to want to be sticky. Overall, I'm not sure this is actually a Flanders red, 'cause it really doesn't taste like one. Whatever it is, though, it's not very good.

Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev +28.6%

Photo of nickfl
2.78/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A - The cork comes out without a sound, which is a little disconcerting when you are expecting a loud pop. Pours with one finger of light tan foam (which is somewhat reassuring) that settles quickly and leaves a little bit of lace. The body is a beautiful, reddish-brown color with excellent clarity.

S - Rich malt notes of nutty caramel and toffee with just a hint of acetic sourness.

T - Nutty malt with light caramel sweetness up front. Toffee notes in the middle with some mild tartness and a hint of roasted grain. A light oak note in the finish with some very mild funk and acidity that shows very little true sourness. Lingering rich malt with some very nice nutty character.

M - Medium body, light carbonation, and a slightly sweet finish.

D - Not at all what I was expecting or what was advertised. This is not a bad beer, it is quite enjoyable actually, but it is sure as hell not a flemmish red. It might have become one if allowed to sour properly, but it tastes like the bottled it after a month in the barrel. There is very little acidity and as a result, the beer is totally lacking in complexity and it has a strongly exaggerated malt character. The nutty malt is quite pleasant and it would have been great in an actual sour beer, but the sweetness makes this seem more like an american amber with a slight infection than a Flemmish red. I honestly can't believe they bottled a beer this immature, it really needed to be soured for another year or so based on the way it tastes. I didn't mind drinking this, but it utterly fails at being a "flemish style red ale" and I have to give it a poor rating for not even beginning to deliver on what is promised on the label.

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.68/5  rDev +18.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appears a deep ruby mahogany brownish red hue with a light off white khaki head, the lacing is fine and even a magnificent peace of work. Aroma has tart cherries dark malts in the background, but it's pretty subtle not too funky in the grand scheme of sour red ales. Flavor has a rounded tart brown slash red ale the flavors are ridden of funk but lack the sour puckering mouthfeel that should come with the mouthfeel, I've loved brews from both of these brewers so that's why I've decided to pick up a bottle of their collaboration ale. I love Flemish style sour ales but this one doesn't hit the acidity. Mouthfeel is clean bodied but the overall carbonation level leaves a smooth semi sweet flavor that doesn't bring a dry mouth puckering sour ale note. Drinkability overall was fine but it didn't bring the experience that I equate to as a sour red Flemish ale, it was way too subdued but good in it's own right, if that makes sense.

Photo of Slatetank
3.6/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to tenderbranson69 for sharing his Christmas beer w/ me -poured chilled from the 12.7oz into a tulip

A - A sunset dark rust orange w/ reddish hues -2 fingers of light tan rise from a vigorous pour. The ale is lightly hazed and head has a tiny bead w/ thick film clinging to the glass

S - A mild woody, fruity and subtle cherry-like scent w/ slight vegetal and spiced edges. The nose is fruity w/ a light yeasty funk

M - Moderately smooth, creamy texture is accented well by tangy/fruity feel. The carbonation is moderate and mild tinge of tanginess which doesn't ever really seem to reach the level of sour. The finish is dry and clean overall

T - The flavor has a slightly fruity taste which can best be described as currant or mild cherry w/ subtle belgian yeast taste and mild flavor of hops w/ slight nutty woody touches. The flavor finishes w/ mild spice in the back

D - A tasty beer, but not the best flanders red. I was glad to try this, but it is not the most flavorful and for the price there are better choices

Photo of oline73
2.19/5  rDev -29.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Poured from a cork and caged bottle into a Chimay goblet.

Appearance: Pours a clear dark red/amber color with a layer of off white head. Some lacing remains after the pour.

Smell: There is a sour note in the smell, but I'm picking up more sweet fruit. It kind of smells like mildly sour apple juice.

Taste: This beer is hardly sour at all. There is a very mild acidic taste, but it is not the dominant taste. There is some sweet dark fruit, think brown sugar, cherries, and raisins. I pick up some oak as well. Overall I think the taste is watery and not nearly sour enough.

Mouthfeel: The body is a bit think and although it feels like this beer wants to have a dry finish, it never gets there. It could use some more carbonation as well.

Drinkability: This beer is too watery and not very sour at all. I definitely won't be going back for another bottle.

Photo of mactrail
3.88/5  rDev +24.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A fruity amber beer of mixed parentage.

Big foam-up but it dissipates to a very nice rich carbonation. Looks quite nice in the glass with dark coppery color, Good mouthfeel. I don't detect much sourness, but the tart edge does go well with the maltiness. I do like the fruity cherry tang. An edge of bitterness, but fortunately neither too sweet nor too bitter.

This is a strange one and if you're going by the style book you will be unfulfilled. But it's a richly flavored beer that keeps you guessing and to me, very drinkable. It would be great with a steak and an interesting salad. They went to a lot of trouble with this 12.7 oz bottle and the little cork. Pabst should check into this to buy the recipe for a Champale flavor.

Photo of MasterSki
3.43/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Cask at the Long Room - served in a tulip.

A - A pinky finger of off-white foam that dissipates quickly. Transparent orange-red color. Not much in the way of lacing. It's what I'd expect from a cask Flanders red.

S - Some floral hops, sweet cherries, green apples, horsey funk, sweet malts, but not much in they way of sourness. Tastes like a Belgian blonde inoculated with a touch of brett and some cherry flavor.

T - It's like a blend of a blonde ale and a Flanders red - grapes and vinous notes, oaky tannins, and a slight sour aftertaste, but mixed with some biscuity malts and light fruit and floral notes. Interesting, but not entirely successful.

M - Medium body, cask-style texture, with a slight carbonation tingle, and a bit of residua stickiness. Just a little bit lifeless and dull.

D - The tannic aftertaste gets fatiguing - and the beer just doesn't have enough sourness to satisfy my expectations for the style. I was OK with having my one glass, but I won't bother with this one again unless the bottle format is vastly different.

Photo of feloniousmonk
3.67/5  rDev +18%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

"Chicago Meets Flanders"...

Velvet coloring, lightly clouded, very bright, smallish head above.

sour cherry aromatics, cloaked by oak...a little sweet, then more sour.

Taste: more of the same, the cherry flavor's there, and the tug of war between sweet and sour. This is no intense puckeration, and was not intended to be, I hasten to add. Nothing everything needs to be a lip bruiser. With each meeting of glass and lip, more sour smack, a slap of sweet, a twist of oakiness, then it softly pulls back.
Tasty malt, no hops, woody flavors permeate.
That has to be the main flaw in this Flemish Red, that there's not enough staying power in the flavor. Fades too fast, doesn't make as strong of an impression and really hang in there.
but, then, it's only a flaw if it wasn't intentional. This was designed as an easier-drinking, lighter, more approachable Flemish Red. And it works on that level.

Photo of WesWes
3.58/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a beautiful ruby red color with a 1/2" off-white head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is decent. It has a sweet and fruity smelling aroma. It has a light sour nose; nothing like most Flanders out there. The taste is decent. It has a smooth, dry, crystal malt scent along with a mild yeast fruitiness and a faint Brett sourness. This is tasty, but not as sour as it should be. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a medium/full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a very drinkable beer, but it lacks the character of a true Flanders ale.

Photo of dbrauneis
3.43/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a cloudy garnet red with two fingers of bright white foamy head. Moderate head retention and moderate lacing.

S: Aromas are of sour cherry though far more intense than the flavor.

T: Flavors are light sour cherry with hints of oak. I prefer a little more sourness and funkiness in this style so I felt this was a little light on flavor. Overall a very well balanced taste.

M: Light to medium bodied with heavy carbonation and a dry finish.

O: Could be a very refreshing beer in the summer... It would pair very nicely with some freshly grilled meats as it would cut through the fattiness. Easy to drink.

Photo of imperialking
3/5  rDev -3.5%

Photo of mothman
2.19/5  rDev -29.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Poured into weyerbacher tulip.

Pours 1/2 finger of off white head. Fades to a ring. Leaves some lace rings. Color is a clear dark ruby red.

Aroma: Cherry concentrate comes to mind instantly. Smells like a fruit punch. A very light amount of oak and spice. Sweet with no sourness.

Taste: I am having a hard time believing this is a flanders. It tastes more like a cherry ale brewed with cherry concentrate and not fresh cherries. Some warming spices show with a touch of oak. Not sour at all.

Mouthfeel: A bit crisp and sweet. Medium amount of carbonation with a lighter body. Ends dry with more cherry flavors.

Overall, if this is a flanders it is not very good. No sourness, no tartness, no funk. It tastes like a cherry fruit beer. It is drinkable in that sense, but not in the sense of being a flanders.

Photo of weeare138
2.83/5  rDev -9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appears a murky, dark brown with a red hue. Spotty bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell...meh. Kind of bland stuff, here. No funk detected. Very mild traces of steeped grain, and a touch of fruit if anything.
Taste is of the mentioned aromas. Perhaps some very, very mild cherry detected in the flavor but not what I was expecting when manning up the $10 for this brew.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied with some light fruitiness lingering. As a hge fan of this style, I am sad to report that I was let down. It didn't even really scratch the surface of funkiness that is expected with some of the bigger boys from this genre, ala Rodenbach. It's ok for a beer but not on par with anything spectacular. If there are any left, do yourself a favor...uncork it, give a pinch of sugar in there, add lactobaccilus, and brett lambicus, re-cap, age. Hopefully, you'll have a genuine Flemish Red in about a year.

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Moaten from Two Brothers Brewing Company
73 out of 100 based on 124 ratings.