Moaten - Two Brothers Brewing Company
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United Kingdom (Wales)
2.17/5 rDev -30%
Poured into weyerbacher tulip.
Pours 1/2 finger of off white head. Fades to a ring. Leaves some lace rings. Color is a clear dark ruby red.
Aroma: Cherry concentrate comes to mind instantly. Smells like a fruit punch. A very light amount of oak and spice. Sweet with no sourness.
Taste: I am having a hard time believing this is a flanders. It tastes more like a cherry ale brewed with cherry concentrate and not fresh cherries. Some warming spices show with a touch of oak. Not sour at all.
Mouthfeel: A bit crisp and sweet. Medium amount of carbonation with a lighter body. Ends dry with more cherry flavors.
Overall, if this is a flanders it is not very good. No sourness, no tartness, no funk. It tastes like a cherry fruit beer. It is drinkable in that sense, but not in the sense of being a flanders.
09-13-2010 00:42:47 | More by mothman
3.4/5 rDev +9.7%
Pours clear amber with a whisp of tan head and a few dots of lacing.
Aromatics lead off with sweet malt, ripe fruit, and some faint oak. Barely a promise of faint tartness. Faint cherries with a trace of vanilla and a hint of bourbon.
Light bodied with a thinnish mouthfeel. The carbonation is very light.
A hint of tart cherries, syrupy malt, and oaky tannins start the palate. A mild boozy note steps forward along with a drop of sherry vinegar.
Finishes with lingering stone fruit, sweet malt, and a very faint tartness.
A pretty exciting label with a pretty dissapointing beer inside. Where's the sour? Where's the funk? Yikes.
09-08-2010 01:12:09 | More by brewandbbq
2.8/5 rDev -9.7%
Poured into a Sam Adams pint glass.
Poured a shade of brown that does not remind me of a Flanders Red Ale at all, with straw colored foam. The bottle barely popped, but miraculously, was still carbonated.
Smelled of the wild fermentation I expected, but the taste was definitely not there. I'd expect a sour to get stronger over time, but if this was ever sour, it lost it at some point. It had the acidity of a Bell's Oarsman- a bit tart, but definitely not sour enough for the style.
Good mouthfeel, and went down well. I would pass up another- not worth the extra calories for me.
If this was rebrewed, it should be labeled as a Bruin, with a lot more sour to it. Disappointing in its current state.
08-25-2010 02:46:59 | More by accordselux
3.63/5 rDev +17.1%
For once I get to go contrary to other reviewers on the positive side. Cork opened with a small "pop". Got a small light tan head that quickly subsided to not much and no lace. Color is a clear bown, medium amber. Aroma is malt tart yeast and beer. Taste is fairly mild and pleasant: and like aroma. Body is decent with fine, light carbonation which works in this instance. Finish is clean with the tartness nicely balancing the malt sweetness. Could have another except for the price.
07-03-2010 22:14:46 | More by drpimento
2.2/5 rDev -29%
A-pours a clear cola colored brown liquied with red edges and light tan dense head.
S-the nose is light, very metallic, a watery toasted bread and caramel malt backbone and some light fruity notes.
T-caramel up front, light toasted biscuit, syrupy dark fruit, cherries and plums, lots of phenolic metal in the back.
M-smooth and syrupy, low carbonation, lacking balance.
D-not very tasty, very little sourness or acidity at all, its like a crappy old ale.
07-01-2010 00:46:25 | More by cpetrone84
2.93/5 rDev -5.5%
A: The pour is reddish brown, but perhaps a bit on the light site. A big light tan head results as well.
S: Certainly fruity, but more along the lines of apples and even citrus which seems quite out of place for the style. A bit of tartness and acidity, but nothing really Flanders red about it.
T: The flavor is very strange. It's almost like apple sauce and pennies, which I have never tasted in a beer before. A bit of sweetness and a bit of "tartness", if you can call it that.
M: The body is light with a very high, soda-like carbonation.
D: This is not at all what I was expecting, nor did I really like it. This just did not really have any characteristics of the style, with the exception of the appearance (to an extent).
06-25-2010 17:39:30 | More by womencantsail
3.05/5 rDev -1.6%
Ferric oxide orange with a brick red influence as well. After a barely audible 'pop' on cork extraction, cap creation wasn't expected to be great. Actually, it looks damn good: two fingers thick, golden ecru, and lace that looks like lace.
Sorry, but this Flanders red ale (by way of Chicago, IL) doesn't smell like a Flanders red ale. It isn't very fruity and isn't sour at all. What we have is an earthy oakiness... and that's about it. Not bad, just not to style.
Moaten does not get it done on the palate either. With Hildegard van Ostaden (of Urthel fame) collaborating, one would have thought that Two Brothers could have come up with something better than this. One would be wrong.
The flavor profile is incredibly simple and is too sweet besides. Well, maybe not sweet, but definitely not tart. There's a little 'red malt' flavor, a hint of earthy fruitiness, and a quasi-drying finish. If the world's best versions are college graduates, Moaten just got held back in sixth grade.
I still don't have a great sense of what a Flanders red mouthfeel should feel like. This one is no more than light-medium and the carbonation gives up way too early. Despite decent head creation, there weren't many bubbles to begin with.
Moaten is Flemish for 'friends'. Maybe my moaten will like this beer better than I did. For $6.99 and a cork-and-cage, much more was expected than was delivered. Note to Two Brothers: no need for an encore performance.
06-09-2010 11:30:29 | More by BuckeyeNation
District of Columbia
3.45/5 rDev +11.3%
reddish brown with a sunbursty thing going on; little foam
acidic nose (though not THAT acidic) with plenty of deep fruity caramel. woody. vinous. port comes to nose
not flemish sour, really. i expected much more in that respect. no bitterness (that was to be expected), dry breadcrust and apricot. quite woody. but again, minimal tartness
thin: it fades away and, without the expected sourness, this is a problem (little depth)
06-05-2010 22:46:50 | More by bruachan
3.03/5 rDev -2.3%
Small corked bottle, poured into a tulip.
Nice lloking red color, however with a short off-white head that quickly fades. It certainly does not look like a belgian.
aroma is more on the sweetish, fruity side, with minimal sour notes.
Light and refreshing, but similar to aroma, sweetish and fruity, with a glaring lack of sour or acidic notes.
There is very little "flanders red" here. Considering the high price tag, I would suggest skipping it altogether.
05-29-2010 14:17:49 | More by brdc
3.63/5 rDev +17.1%
A; Pours a large (3+ finger) head that's a pale tan. The body is brownish-red with lots of active carbonation. It's slightly hazy, but not much. The head is almost too big and sticks around too long. It gets better on subsequent pours.
S: I actually get a lot of fruity, citrusy aromas and not the strong acidic sour that I expected. There's some pineapple, and even a little musty smell, but not vinegar or any of the traditional Flemish smells. It's enjoyable, but not appropriate to me.
T: Again, this is more like fruit juice gone bad than a well made Flemish Red. I get a lot of tropical fruit and berries, not much acidity or sourness at all. The flavor is a little weak, and I don't get much sharpness but instead a well rounded mineral taste, but it's still good, just not what I want from something called a Flemish Red.
M: Good body, on the favorable side of sours for me. But, not appropriate for sours.
D: I like this beer, but I wouldn't call it a Flemish Ale, which they unfortunately do. I think it would be a great way to introduce people to sours though, so I give it ok ratings.
05-19-2010 05:30:17 | More by mdwalsh
2.58/5 rDev -16.8%
A: Pours a hazy copper with a very light layer of foam that quickly disappears. Light wisps of lacing.
S: A mild, stale basement smell, but lacking in the rich and intense aromas that a good Flanders typically has.
T: Sweet with just a mild sourness. Very soft flavors of bread and toffee almost immediately vacate the palate. Oak-aged? Coulda fooled me. Overall, quite bland and lacking in character.
M: Light-bodied with moderate carbonation. Clean finish.
D: I typically expect a Flanders to either knock my socks off with sourness or blow me away with complexity; this does neither. There's nothing offensive about this beer, but nothing memorable about it.
04-07-2010 01:21:13 | More by klewis
2.3/5 rDev -25.8%
12.7oz corked-bottle...served in a Duvel tulip
A - pours with about a half inch of frothy light tan foam...sitting atop a clear, dark ruby/brownish/purpley colored beer. very minor active bubbling. eventually settles to a thin layer of film and bubbly ring around the outside.
S - lots of minerals, grain here. only a slight twinge of cherries, vanilla, soap. just a tiny hint of sourness that mostly gets lost in everything else.
T - odd. a bit funky, not typical Belgian yeast funk but more cheese or mold like. some vanilla like sweetness, joined by a bit of cherries, vinegar. on a scale of 1-10, sour/tartness is about a 2. dominated by a bland bread malt bed. ive had this one before and can remember it being a bit better.
M - slightly creamy and medium bodied...kind of chalky. carbonation is on the lighter side.
D - not good. struggling to make it halfway through the bottle. just uninteresting, bland, and weird. hopefully my drain likes this better than i do.
03-28-2010 01:17:49 | More by Stigs
3.78/5 rDev +21.9%
Poured the 12.2 oz into an oversized red wine glass to capture the aroma.
A: Deep red with golden hues. It poured with a medium cream head that died to a film and lace.
S: Sour apples, grape juice, bready and yeasty malts, raspberry, but if nothing else, FRENCH ONION SOUP. Weird, huh?
T: The taste is pungent like cheese with a bit of that rustic horse saddle flavor. There is a mild sourness of apples--but more like MacIntosh or Jonathan and not Granny Smith. It is very well balanced and almost savory.
M: Slightly syrupy with crisp carbonation.
03-27-2010 05:36:01 | More by ne0m00re
3.65/5 rDev +17.7%
Appears a deep ruby mahogany brownish red hue with a light off white khaki head, the lacing is fine and even a magnificent peace of work. Aroma has tart cherries dark malts in the background, but it's pretty subtle not too funky in the grand scheme of sour red ales. Flavor has a rounded tart brown slash red ale the flavors are ridden of funk but lack the sour puckering mouthfeel that should come with the mouthfeel, I've loved brews from both of these brewers so that's why I've decided to pick up a bottle of their collaboration ale. I love Flemish style sour ales but this one doesn't hit the acidity. Mouthfeel is clean bodied but the overall carbonation level leaves a smooth semi sweet flavor that doesn't bring a dry mouth puckering sour ale note. Drinkability overall was fine but it didn't bring the experience that I equate to as a sour red Flemish ale, it was way too subdued but good in it's own right, if that makes sense.
03-22-2010 17:31:46 | More by WVbeergeek
3.45/5 rDev +11.3%
A - Gorgeous auburn color with a blood red hue in the center. The white head settles to a ring and delivers a Brussels lace with every sip.
S - Lots of oak character and a wine-like acidity in this beer's nose, though a good deal of malt aroma comes through as well.
T - Good malty flavor. Tastes a little like sweet wort. I am a little disappointed with the sour component, mainly because it isn't as apparent as in most other examples. The oak and acidic characteristics that were in the nose try to get noticed in the taste but are overwhelmed.
M/D - Thin mouth and mild carbonation. This is a very drinkable beer and does quench the thirst, but it is too far off from the style it labels itself as.
03-15-2010 01:35:15 | More by SirSketch
3.5/5 rDev +12.9%
12.7oz bottle, scooped in chicago over the summer...been kind of sitting in the cellar fridge due to the low rating and underwhelming experience on tap in august
corked and caged green bottle, Two Brothers / Urthel collaboration
appearance: served in my hopleaf tulip, dull pink-red body, light beige ring, mostly clear
smell: you can really tell that Urthel is involved - their token yeast strains are very evident in the aroma...acidic, doughy, beets, herbal...odd stuff
taste: kind of a bad version of furthermore thermo refur...some cloying sweetness, grain, dough, beets and other misplaced vegetables, the "oak aged" effect isnt very well pronounced. overpriced for this one - not one of two brother finest moments
mouthfeel: acidic, a bit sweet
03-12-2010 02:36:28 | More by dirtylou
3.03/5 rDev -2.3%
Deep ruby copper in color with at nice full head, but settling quickly to patchy bubbles and film. A little decent lace.
Smell is interesting. Tart and grainy, with a deep doughy malt perked with beets and sauced tomatoes. Mildly sweet. Not sure at all how I feel about this. It's not bad, but definitely not what I expected for the style. I'm keeping an open mind.
It doesn't matter what other flavors are in there, because I could pick this beer apart and get to all of them for you and still never get past the acidic tomato paste flavor. Some other malty characteristics are there, and altogether not poorly crafted, with a little mild sour and deepened blend. If I'd expected this taste I don't think I'd be so put off by it. An otherwise nicely done beer.
Feel is about what I'd expect, medium in body without being too up-front on presentation. Sits nicely.
I don't know what it is about this beer that's so strikingly in the tomato department, from acidity to taste. I'm having trouble picking much else out from it that makes it better. By itself, it's actually not a bad beer at all. I just don't think it's at all what I expected.
03-08-2010 18:59:33 | More by lightindarkness
3.25/5 rDev +4.8%
This beer was shared with my wife. The beer was served in a tulip glass. My wife upon smelling the beer and tasting it stated, "this beer is politely sour." She has no trouble downing Cantillion and Jolly Pumpkin products so wasnt worried about giving her a sour.
Appearance: The body of the beer is cherry brown colored. The head is thin white and quickly resolves. Nice clarity on the body and looks nice as the light dances around the glass.
Smell: The aroma of sweet / tart cherries starts things off. A good amount of vanilla oak makes its way forward. A little more sourness creeps in but ultimately this smells bland.
Taste: Cherries are present and some what tart. This plays with a tug of war with the sour and ultimately is a bit too sweet for my taste. Although as I continue to allow the beer to warm up there is a really nice play between sweet and sour. Think my wife was correct that this is politely sour and not simply bland candy. I think this beer is a bit bland.
Mouthfeel / Drinkability: Light bodied flavors are back and forth sweet and sour with a bit more on the sweet. The tartness is polite and wont gob smack you. From my prospective I relish a good gob smacking from tart flavors. This is somewhat a let down; however, its politely sour and easy to drink. If you want a sour beer go else where.
02-28-2010 02:35:49 | More by nlmartin
3.2/5 rDev +3.2%
12.7 oz green Belgian style corked and caged bottle. It is a collaboration between Two Brothers and Urthel. "Chicago Meets Flanders".
Pours an intoxicating dark purpleish red, much like one of those high octane doppelbocks like eku 28, it is semi clear and magnificent when held to the light. The head is large, foamy and off-white and leaves some very nice Brussels-style lacing.
The smell wasn't exactly what I was expecting. It smells like a "red" saison. The yeast is twangy, fruity, and slightly spicy and the malts are bready and up-front, underneath there is a slight red grape scent. There is a hint, very slight, of farmhouse scent. There is also a hint of oak. The smell isn't pungent, only subtle, but I like it.
The flavor is more like a Flanders red, it is super fruity with notes of cherries foremost and also some red grape. It as a distinct bitterness and also a decent sweetness. The malts sort of fall flat here. The tartness is in the finish, it isn't sour only tart, but it lacks a certain bite. The oak lingers after in your moth and is a bit overpowering and the finish is pretty dry. This is very wine-like, im not a huge fan.
The mouthfeel is the downfall, it is watery with a dry finish, it just doesn't convey the flavors to the tongue well enough.
Overall it is a good but not great beer.
02-24-2010 21:37:12 | More by crossovert
3.38/5 rDev +9%
Lush ruby-copper body with a thin patch of off-white foam. Decent cherry, berry aromas, tart on the nose. More tart than sweet in the taste, not too surprising for the style. A bit of caramel and chocolate malt, but more tart emerges in the finish, which puckers and is a bit off-putting.
I have to confess to not being a big fan of the style, so my somewhat negative review has its own biases informing it. At the same time, Moaten could use more sweet malt and some more hops to offset the tart flavor that frankly needs more balance. But, Flanders Red is what it is, and it's a style I can take or leave.
02-09-2010 02:43:21 | More by Gehrig
3.48/5 rDev +12.3%
A -- The beer pours a nice clear copper / red with a very light head that dissipates quickly. Very little carbonation.
S -- The wood is present with a definite hint of tart fruits. Doesn't smell overly sour, but does have subtle acidity.
T -- Light, tart, woody, and fruity (apple, slight berry) and not overpowering. Very easy on the palate and mild in flavor.
M -- A little on the thin side, light acid, crisp tart finish.
D -- Overall, I would say drinkable even for those who aren't familiar with the style. However, the subtleties of this brew make it so that it doesn't really interest me to have another.
02-05-2010 01:55:30 | More by CPeterson
2.85/5 rDev -8.1%
Appears a murky, dark brown with a red hue. Spotty bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell...meh. Kind of bland stuff, here. No funk detected. Very mild traces of steeped grain, and a touch of fruit if anything.
Taste is of the mentioned aromas. Perhaps some very, very mild cherry detected in the flavor but not what I was expecting when manning up the $10 for this brew.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied with some light fruitiness lingering. As a hge fan of this style, I am sad to report that I was let down. It didn't even really scratch the surface of funkiness that is expected with some of the bigger boys from this genre, ala Rodenbach. It's ok for a beer but not on par with anything spectacular. If there are any left, do yourself a favor...uncork it, give a pinch of sugar in there, add lactobaccilus, and brett lambicus, re-cap, age. Hopefully, you'll have a genuine Flemish Red in about a year.
01-15-2010 20:16:01 | More by weeare138
3.6/5 rDev +16.1%
Thanks to tenderbranson69 for sharing his Christmas beer w/ me -poured chilled from the 12.7oz into a tulip
A - A sunset dark rust orange w/ reddish hues -2 fingers of light tan rise from a vigorous pour. The ale is lightly hazed and head has a tiny bead w/ thick film clinging to the glass
S - A mild woody, fruity and subtle cherry-like scent w/ slight vegetal and spiced edges. The nose is fruity w/ a light yeasty funk
M - Moderately smooth, creamy texture is accented well by tangy/fruity feel. The carbonation is moderate and mild tinge of tanginess which doesn't ever really seem to reach the level of sour. The finish is dry and clean overall
T - The flavor has a slightly fruity taste which can best be described as currant or mild cherry w/ subtle belgian yeast taste and mild flavor of hops w/ slight nutty woody touches. The flavor finishes w/ mild spice in the back
D - A tasty beer, but not the best flanders red. I was glad to try this, but it is not the most flavorful and for the price there are better choices
01-06-2010 17:38:00 | More by Slatetank
4/5 rDev +29%
Poured from the bottle to a tulip.
Appearance: When I pulled the cork, there was a light popping noise and very little fizz; pour is a light coppery/ruby concoction with some dark brown hues at the top; starts with a one finger, slightly off-white, head that fades pretty quickly to a thin and uneven skim; body is a little hazy; loose swaths of spotty lacing are present; very minimal carbonation is visibly present.
Smell: Slightly musty; a lot of tart and acidic fruity esthers that are just a touch sour (reminiscent of mostly apple and some elements of cherry); no real "funk" aspect like I was expecting, but I don't really know why I was expecting it either.
Taste: Not too shabby -- nice tart apple and cherry-like flavors that end on a slightly sour note; overall the fruit flavors are acidic; nice overall and not hard to drink at all; again, no "funk" to it, but the sour flavors are nice and not too intense at all. I think for someone who has very limited exposure to sours, this is a great start for me.
Mouthfeel: Body is light overall; carbonation is interesting, not really strong or sharp, yet still potent despite being absent to the eye; slight pucker is left due to the tartness and my mouth is left watering at first and then dries with a slight film at the end; gums are left tingly and the belly is left a little warm due to the acidity.
Drinkability: Not sure why, but as I mentioned earlier I really expected a bit more funkiness to this, but in terms of what's sour and how the style description reads, it's pretty spot on. I really enjoyed it and could get through a bottle with little problem, but the acidity might become a bit much after a while and cause some heartburn.
01-05-2010 00:22:53 | More by bamadog
3/5 rDev -3.2%
12.7oz corked and caged bottle received in Artistic Labels BIF from sproser. Thanks Shawn! Poured into a Brooklyn snifter.
A - Bottle opens with a nice firm pop. Pours a clear, dark ruby red with some brownish tint. Three fingers of tan foam sit on top and slowly fade. Head is a bit on the loose side, but leaves some nice lite lacing on the glass as it fades.
S - Huge cherry and raspberry aroma hit me from a couple feet away. Closer inspection yields some nice fresh cut grassy aromas, some tartness and sourness too. More distinct fuit aromas than I am accustomed to in a Flanders Red, but it does smell very good.
T - Aroma is very misleading...taste does not really mirror the smell at all. Tart and bitter with tons of oak. Taste is more like an old pale ale...somewhat bitter, no real hop character, some grainy flavors. The yeast strain used seems fairly unique...and not really desirable to my tastes. An odd, sorta off flavored fruitiness...definitely not reminiscent of the cherry or raspberries in the aroma...perhaps a bit over-attenuated...finishes really dry. I think a little bit of residual sweetness would help quite a bit here.
M - Thin to medium bodied, very high carbonation level. Quite prickly, fills the mouth with a nice tingly sensation...follows with a parching dryness that is left behind after the swallow.
D - This beer leaves me a little confused, but overall underwhelmed. Beer looks and smells really good although a bit odd for the style. Flavor was a complete letdown, not at all resembling the aroma. Had high hopes when the bottle was opened, but I am struggling to finish the bottle. Glad to be able to give it a try, but this one ultimately is not for me.
01-03-2010 21:38:04 | More by portia99
Moaten from Two Brothers Brewing Company
73 out of 100 based on 122 ratings.