Moaten - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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Ratings: 124
Reviews: 99
rAvg: 3.1
pDev: 20%
Wants: 3
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
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Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Nickls on 07-31-2009)
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Photo of bamadog
4/5  rDev +29%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle to a tulip.

Appearance: When I pulled the cork, there was a light popping noise and very little fizz; pour is a light coppery/ruby concoction with some dark brown hues at the top; starts with a one finger, slightly off-white, head that fades pretty quickly to a thin and uneven skim; body is a little hazy; loose swaths of spotty lacing are present; very minimal carbonation is visibly present.

Smell: Slightly musty; a lot of tart and acidic fruity esthers that are just a touch sour (reminiscent of mostly apple and some elements of cherry); no real "funk" aspect like I was expecting, but I don't really know why I was expecting it either.

Taste: Not too shabby -- nice tart apple and cherry-like flavors that end on a slightly sour note; overall the fruit flavors are acidic; nice overall and not hard to drink at all; again, no "funk" to it, but the sour flavors are nice and not too intense at all. I think for someone who has very limited exposure to sours, this is a great start for me.

Mouthfeel: Body is light overall; carbonation is interesting, not really strong or sharp, yet still potent despite being absent to the eye; slight pucker is left due to the tartness and my mouth is left watering at first and then dries with a slight film at the end; gums are left tingly and the belly is left a little warm due to the acidity.

Drinkability: Not sure why, but as I mentioned earlier I really expected a bit more funkiness to this, but in terms of what's sour and how the style description reads, it's pretty spot on. I really enjoyed it and could get through a bottle with little problem, but the acidity might become a bit much after a while and cause some heartburn.

Photo of portia99
3/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

12.7oz corked and caged bottle received in Artistic Labels BIF from sproser. Thanks Shawn! Poured into a Brooklyn snifter.

A - Bottle opens with a nice firm pop. Pours a clear, dark ruby red with some brownish tint. Three fingers of tan foam sit on top and slowly fade. Head is a bit on the loose side, but leaves some nice lite lacing on the glass as it fades.

S - Huge cherry and raspberry aroma hit me from a couple feet away. Closer inspection yields some nice fresh cut grassy aromas, some tartness and sourness too. More distinct fuit aromas than I am accustomed to in a Flanders Red, but it does smell very good.

T - Aroma is very misleading...taste does not really mirror the smell at all. Tart and bitter with tons of oak. Taste is more like an old pale ale...somewhat bitter, no real hop character, some grainy flavors. The yeast strain used seems fairly unique...and not really desirable to my tastes. An odd, sorta off flavored fruitiness...definitely not reminiscent of the cherry or raspberries in the aroma...perhaps a bit over-attenuated...finishes really dry. I think a little bit of residual sweetness would help quite a bit here.

M - Thin to medium bodied, very high carbonation level. Quite prickly, fills the mouth with a nice tingly sensation...follows with a parching dryness that is left behind after the swallow.

D - This beer leaves me a little confused, but overall underwhelmed. Beer looks and smells really good although a bit odd for the style. Flavor was a complete letdown, not at all resembling the aroma. Had high hopes when the bottle was opened, but I am struggling to finish the bottle. Glad to be able to give it a try, but this one ultimately is not for me.

Photo of nickd717
2.93/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Bottle via trade thanks to deliriumfest.

Pours clear deep red with a small off-white head and good lacing.

Aroma is a little weak with tart cherries, grainy notes, and some oak.

Flavor is a bit weird and not very sour at all. Sweet cherries, grain, spices, oak, and some cardboardy oxidation.

Not great on the palate - fairly light and not at all acidic.

Drinkability is average. Overall, this is not awful, but it's really not to style.

Photo of danman83
3.73/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Tulip Glass

Appearance - Deep burnt red brass, pours with mild carbonation accumulating a dense khaki head with mediocre retention.

Smell - Fruity like a sour green apple with a hint of banana.

Taste - The initial touch of the tongue immediately reminds me of a lambic but the finish is sweeter with more malt than tart.

Mouthfeel - mild and smooth with minimal carbonation

Drinkability - Very nice beer that would accompany many meals and snacks well without being overpowering. A nice subtle sour that keeps it from being too sweet for my tastes.

Photo of WesWes
3.58/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a beautiful ruby red color with a 1/2" off-white head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is decent. It has a sweet and fruity smelling aroma. It has a light sour nose; nothing like most Flanders out there. The taste is decent. It has a smooth, dry, crystal malt scent along with a mild yeast fruitiness and a faint Brett sourness. This is tasty, but not as sour as it should be. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a medium/full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a very drinkable beer, but it lacks the character of a true Flanders ale.

Photo of kegger22
3.33/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The Two Brothers and Urthel collaboration, Moaten Flemish Red Ale, is ruby red in color with a one inch, beige head that has fairly good retention. It has a mildewy aroma. The taste is tart, but not over-poweringly sour. Fruity, sour cherries seems to be dominant, like a cheap Boonesfarm style wine. Mouth feel is light with modest carbonation. Drinkability is fair despite a relatively low ABV.

I am be no means an expert on Flanders red beers, this is my first, but this beer doesn't seem to fit the descriptions well. However, I didn't mind Moaten. Perhaps this beer represents "Flanders Lite" and is a good way to be introduced to the style?

Photo of nickfl
2.75/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A - The cork comes out without a sound, which is a little disconcerting when you are expecting a loud pop. Pours with one finger of light tan foam (which is somewhat reassuring) that settles quickly and leaves a little bit of lace. The body is a beautiful, reddish-brown color with excellent clarity.

S - Rich malt notes of nutty caramel and toffee with just a hint of acetic sourness.

T - Nutty malt with light caramel sweetness up front. Toffee notes in the middle with some mild tartness and a hint of roasted grain. A light oak note in the finish with some very mild funk and acidity that shows very little true sourness. Lingering rich malt with some very nice nutty character.

M - Medium body, light carbonation, and a slightly sweet finish.

D - Not at all what I was expecting or what was advertised. This is not a bad beer, it is quite enjoyable actually, but it is sure as hell not a flemmish red. It might have become one if allowed to sour properly, but it tastes like the bottled it after a month in the barrel. There is very little acidity and as a result, the beer is totally lacking in complexity and it has a strongly exaggerated malt character. The nutty malt is quite pleasant and it would have been great in an actual sour beer, but the sweetness makes this seem more like an american amber with a slight infection than a Flemmish red. I honestly can't believe they bottled a beer this immature, it really needed to be soured for another year or so based on the way it tastes. I didn't mind drinking this, but it utterly fails at being a "flemish style red ale" and I have to give it a poor rating for not even beginning to deliver on what is promised on the label.

Photo of capra12
3.75/5  rDev +21%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed solo at the Gingerman from notes taken that day.

Appearance: Mohagundy with little head but left great lacing.

Smell: Earthy with hints of sweet green fruit and sour notes.

Taste: Opens rather malty with subtle earthy sour notes which come in towards the middle end leaving a tangy and sour aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Light to medium bodied with minimal carbonation and smooth.

Drinkability: I would have this again and recommend this to those seeking a sour open and finishes withe hints of malt.

Photo of mikesgroove
3.68/5  rDev +18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Saw this one meandering around in my fridge and wanted to try something a but different last night so grabbed it out. Corked and caged 375 were served chilled in an oversized wine glass, consumed on 12/09/2009.
 
The pour was nice, rich dark brown and reddish in color with a decent head of brown on top that settled in very nicely, but did not leave much in the way of side lacing. Aroma showed no signs of sourness at all. Lots of maple sugar like aromas mixed with hints of prunes and a touch of grape skin as it warms, but where is the sour? As I take the first sip I am left confused by the style here. It is a wonderful brown ale, nice sweetness and a good use of dark fruit flavor here, and the grapes are coming in nicely now, but I just don't see it. Its missing a punch or a kick to it. Subtle, dry finish with a nice melding of flavors that leaves a bit of a sweet touch on the back of the tongue, but nothing else really exciting. Smooth, and easily session able, but just a miss for the style.


Overall I really liked this, but I am not sure on the labeling though. It was a quality offering, but at times I am just unsure of where it was supposed to go.

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.53/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer pours a deep brown body with a red hint which is clear but dense. There is a thin wisp of head that swirls around the glass and is supported by a gentle carbonation.
S- The soft hint of fruity tartness turns more cidery when warm and it is otherwise pretty clean.
T- The soft apple tartness hint has some faint malt notes underneath and is well blended with a soft brie rind to follow. There is a nice tart soft bite in the finish that grows a bit as the beer warms.
M- This beer has a medium light mouthfeel with no alcohol heat at all.
D- This beer has more apple qualities than any funk or depth of flavor or aroma.

Photo of feloniousmonk
3.65/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

"Chicago Meets Flanders"...

Velvet coloring, lightly clouded, very bright, smallish head above.

sour cherry aromatics, cloaked by oak...a little sweet, then more sour.

Taste: more of the same, the cherry flavor's there, and the tug of war between sweet and sour. This is no intense puckeration, and was not intended to be, I hasten to add. Nothing everything needs to be a lip bruiser. With each meeting of glass and lip, more sour smack, a slap of sweet, a twist of oakiness, then it softly pulls back.
Tasty malt, no hops, woody flavors permeate.
That has to be the main flaw in this Flemish Red, that there's not enough staying power in the flavor. Fades too fast, doesn't make as strong of an impression and really hang in there.
but, then, it's only a flaw if it wasn't intentional. This was designed as an easier-drinking, lighter, more approachable Flemish Red. And it works on that level.

Photo of organicbrewer
2.2/5  rDev -29%
look: 4 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

A-Dark ruby. Big tan head. Fairly clear

S-Metalic. Wet Hay. No hops. Medicinal. Some toast.

T-Toasty malts. Munichy. Saccarine sweet. Not at all sour. Not even like an oud bruin with sweet sour. Just nothing. Maybe a little skittle flavor from some lacto but not much.

M- Medium bodied. A little tanic but ok. Medium carbonation.

D-While I wouldn't call this beer awful, it definetly isn't a (according to the label) oak-aged sour flemish style red ale. The fake sweetness/wortiness is already getting on my nerves (4 sips in).

Shame, I love most 2 brothers and urthel beers.

Photo of Naugled
3/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

cork made a very quiet pop, not very carbonated and almost flat. Has a nice dark brown clear color.
very slight sour note in the nose, but thats it.
flavor is very mild, in sour, oak, malt and hops. For a sour it has a very low level sourness. I guess you can say the malt/hop balance is good but it has not depth or character like an aged sour should. The oak does just come through but it doesn't bring anything notable to the party.
Mouthfeel is crisp for such low carbonation, that's probably the best thing you can say about this beer.
Drinkable but boring and average.

Photo of tigg924
4.22/5  rDev +36.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: dark amber in color, minimal head and carbonation head, clear

Smell: granny smith apple, dark fruit, and sour mix

Taste: granny smith apple, dark fruit, and sour mix, a touch of oak towards the end

Mouthfeel: smooth, no carbonation, semi-sour

Drinkability: This is a light intro sour which I could have several of. There is a nice fruity mix with the touch of sour. I get a good sour sensation throughout, but not enough to pucker.

Photo of Onenote81
3.18/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle received as an extra from BDLbrewster in a recent trade. Thanks for this! This is my first of the style so I will try to be as open in my review as I can.

Poured into my tulip glass. Pours a light rusty orange at first, but this quickly turns to a dark cherry color. Small ivory head on top. Some light lace sticks to the glass. Smells like Jolly Ranchers, cherries, and a wierd rubbery scent on the finish.

The mouth is moderately carbonated with just enough crisp bite. Decent body, bordering on syrupy. Flavors of mild tart fruits like cherry and cranberry, a decent hop presence leaves a little bitterness. There's some mild funk and yeast in there, but pretty tame.

As a Flanders Red Ale, I'm not sure how this holds up as I have nothing to compare it to. Though it seems that it should be a bit more tart and carry a bit more funk in the flavor. But as a beer on its own, this is pretty good. I couldn't drink too many as the fruitiness would wear on me after awhile, but it's decent. Check it out and decide for yourself.

Photo of jrallen34
1.38/5  rDev -55.5%
look: 2 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

I drank this from a bottle into a chalice.

It pours a light brown with a piss pour head that doesn't rise half a finger and is gone even quicker. The lacing is watery.

The aroma is weak and unpleasing. It has a sour hop smell. No vinegar or crazy tartness.

The taste is really bland. The sourness you expect is not there and instead you get some kid of weird aftertaste.

Photo of BirdFlu
3.9/5  rDev +25.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Very red-orange pour with little-to-no head. Aroma is light, some tart sourness you can pick up but really not much at all. Not bad just sort of blank. Flavor is tart like grapefruit and sour candy. A very fruity presence. Mouth is very nice, very smooth with sour feeling and a very good level of carbonation. The beer's strongpoint. Very smooth drink and tasty, you could easily drink a lot but it could easily also have some more robust traits.

Photo of Cresant
3.15/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured this 12.7 oz heavy green bottle into a Tripel Karmeliet glass. The body was a dull amber color and clear of sediment. The head was fine and light tan, faded to a tiny ring quickly.

Smell was mild. Metal. Damp garage and earthiness.

Taste was more substantial than the aroma. Fruity with oak/woodiness. Cherry tartness was well balanced against the vanilla sweetness. Wood intensified as it warmed.

Mouthfeel was light to medium in body, understated carbonation. I would have expected a little more from this collaboration.

Photo of kenito799
3.23/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Drank this camping, poured into plastic cups.

Looks teh part, reddish brown with almost no head. The aroma is cooked cherry, no characteristic funk to speak of. On teh palate a thin dry cherry, not bad, but lacking the sour funkiness expected of the style. Not bad but not very interesting. Nice try, need to refine the effort.

Photo of BarrytheBear
2.25/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Sad face...or should I say, sad faces.

A small but motley group sat watching football, playing euchre, drinking beer, and generally having a good time. A bottle of Moaten entered the scene. "Interesting," said one of the young men. "I'm excited to try this," said another. Eagerly the crowd gathered round and the bottle of Moaten allowed itself to be poured freely.

"This smells like band aids," someone remarked. "Is this a diaper beer?" another questioned. Happy revelry went south and once happy faces turned sour, but not in the good-Flanders-tart/sour sort of way. "This is a Flanders?" someone cried. "It's just not right," another chimed.

Mild cherry, next to no tartness, diaper, rubber band, and band aid mesh together.

"Let's not speak of this again," someone said. Well said, someone, well said.

Photo of dfillius
3.95/5  rDev +27.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a goblet
A: No release of carbonation when corked :-( Clear, slightly claret hued brown liquid. Very little head leaves very little trace of a ring in very little time. More head please.
S: Molasses, fruit, tart lactic acid, clovees, hard to find aroma sometimes - minus points for that.
T: Sweet and malty is checked by the tartness. Cherry. Not as tart as other examples of the style I've tried. Very tasty, but with an odd flavor in the back of my mouth. Tarter please.
M: Sweet and chewy with a dry finish.
D: Tasty, but not attractive enough or tasty enough to buy again. I might order a second.

Photo of TurdFurgison
3.05/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12.7 oz green bottle, corked and caged. This collaboration between Two Brothers and Urthel is styled as an oak aged sour Flemish style Red Ale.

The cork comes out with quietly and with no internal pressure so I expect little carbonation. The beer is clear or maybe just a little hazy, dark reddish copper color, and only a ring of bubbles around the glass. The smell is definitely NOT sour, actually it smells strongly of caramel malt and some yeasty esters. This smells really good as a Belgian Dark Ale but it misses the mark as a Flanders Red. Same with the flavor, this is tasty and a little tart, slightly sweet with some light fruits like pears or green grapes but almost no sour bite. Very silky mouthfeeland light body, very drinkable and good. Just not a Flanders Red Ale.

Photo of Ryan011235
2.75/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a snifter on 9/9/09

A - Dirty light brown with slight red highlights. Meager foam that is not long for this world. Tiny spots of circular lace.

S - Potent sour aroma with vinegar overtones. Kind of buttery.

T - Tart & sour. Decent amount of wheat with hints of grassiness. Dark cherry notes.

M - Moderate weight & carbonation. Finish is dry & fairly clean.

D - I'm not familiar with this particular style, thus I have nothing by which to compare it. I don't mind it; it's not offensive, but I'm in no hurry to drink it again.

Photo of jsh420
2.08/5  rDev -32.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

pours a very light redish brown with a 1 finger head that fades fast

smells watery - cherries and some wheat?

tstaste - ? i guess this is a flanders red because the label says so? - but to me it tases like a light hefe with cherries???

mouthfeel is thin watery - the cabonation was right though

drinikability is low - price is too high and the flavor sucks

this beer = epic fail

Photo of CHSLBrew
4.05/5  rDev +30.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle poured into a small red wine glass. Enjoyed while preparing for duck openner up at the cabin.

A-Poured with a minimal head on an easy pour, leaving a consistent off-white collar. A more vigorous pour yielded a better head, frothy and cloud-like, pale white. This beer was a clear, slightly hazed copper-red brew.

S-Bread and biscuity, cracker, slight spicy-sour, but in the eaves of the aroma, a bit of funkiness emerges, which continues to grow as the beer warms.

T-Funky-sour right off the bat in this beer's flavor. Malt foundation is slightly bready with a hint of toasty toffee into the finish. The most prominent flavor is most certainly the funky sourness. Finishes relatively dry, with a slight funk that dissipates quickly. This brew is quite tasty, indeed.

M-Medium-high carbonation, it appeared to have more carbonation that I perceived when drinking it. Medium body, pleasant.

D-I think this is a very tasty brew. A nice funkiness, exactly what I like about Flanders red brews, bolsters this beer's refreshing characteristics.

Moaten from Two Brothers Brewing Company
72 out of 100 based on 124 ratings.