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Moaten - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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122 Ratings
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Ratings: 122
Reviews: 99
rAvg: 3.1
pDev: 20.32%
Wants: 3
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Nickls on 07-31-2009)
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Photo of nickd717


2.93/5  rDev -5.5%

Bottle via trade thanks to deliriumfest.

Pours clear deep red with a small off-white head and good lacing.

Aroma is a little weak with tart cherries, grainy notes, and some oak.

Flavor is a bit weird and not very sour at all. Sweet cherries, grain, spices, oak, and some cardboardy oxidation.

Not great on the palate - fairly light and not at all acidic.

Drinkability is average. Overall, this is not awful, but it's really not to style.

01-03-2010 05:00:54 | More by nickd717
Photo of danman83


3.73/5  rDev +20.3%

Poured into a Tulip Glass

Appearance - Deep burnt red brass, pours with mild carbonation accumulating a dense khaki head with mediocre retention.

Smell - Fruity like a sour green apple with a hint of banana.

Taste - The initial touch of the tongue immediately reminds me of a lambic but the finish is sweeter with more malt than tart.

Mouthfeel - mild and smooth with minimal carbonation

Drinkability - Very nice beer that would accompany many meals and snacks well without being overpowering. A nice subtle sour that keeps it from being too sweet for my tastes.

01-03-2010 01:49:48 | More by danman83
Photo of WesWes

New York

3.58/5  rDev +15.5%

The beer pours a beautiful ruby red color with a 1/2" off-white head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is decent. It has a sweet and fruity smelling aroma. It has a light sour nose; nothing like most Flanders out there. The taste is decent. It has a smooth, dry, crystal malt scent along with a mild yeast fruitiness and a faint Brett sourness. This is tasty, but not as sour as it should be. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a medium/full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a very drinkable beer, but it lacks the character of a true Flanders ale.

12-27-2009 22:43:36 | More by WesWes
Photo of kegger22


3.33/5  rDev +7.4%

The Two Brothers and Urthel collaboration, Moaten Flemish Red Ale, is ruby red in color with a one inch, beige head that has fairly good retention. It has a mildewy aroma. The taste is tart, but not over-poweringly sour. Fruity, sour cherries seems to be dominant, like a cheap Boonesfarm style wine. Mouth feel is light with modest carbonation. Drinkability is fair despite a relatively low ABV.

I am be no means an expert on Flanders red beers, this is my first, but this beer doesn't seem to fit the descriptions well. However, I didn't mind Moaten. Perhaps this beer represents "Flanders Lite" and is a good way to be introduced to the style?

12-24-2009 18:10:17 | More by kegger22
Photo of nickfl


2.75/5  rDev -11.3%

A - The cork comes out without a sound, which is a little disconcerting when you are expecting a loud pop. Pours with one finger of light tan foam (which is somewhat reassuring) that settles quickly and leaves a little bit of lace. The body is a beautiful, reddish-brown color with excellent clarity.

S - Rich malt notes of nutty caramel and toffee with just a hint of acetic sourness.

T - Nutty malt with light caramel sweetness up front. Toffee notes in the middle with some mild tartness and a hint of roasted grain. A light oak note in the finish with some very mild funk and acidity that shows very little true sourness. Lingering rich malt with some very nice nutty character.

M - Medium body, light carbonation, and a slightly sweet finish.

D - Not at all what I was expecting or what was advertised. This is not a bad beer, it is quite enjoyable actually, but it is sure as hell not a flemmish red. It might have become one if allowed to sour properly, but it tastes like the bottled it after a month in the barrel. There is very little acidity and as a result, the beer is totally lacking in complexity and it has a strongly exaggerated malt character. The nutty malt is quite pleasant and it would have been great in an actual sour beer, but the sweetness makes this seem more like an american amber with a slight infection than a Flemmish red. I honestly can't believe they bottled a beer this immature, it really needed to be soured for another year or so based on the way it tastes. I didn't mind drinking this, but it utterly fails at being a "flemish style red ale" and I have to give it a poor rating for not even beginning to deliver on what is promised on the label.

12-22-2009 05:56:24 | More by nickfl
Photo of capra12

New York

3.75/5  rDev +21%

Reviewed solo at the Gingerman from notes taken that day.

Appearance: Mohagundy with little head but left great lacing.

Smell: Earthy with hints of sweet green fruit and sour notes.

Taste: Opens rather malty with subtle earthy sour notes which come in towards the middle end leaving a tangy and sour aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Light to medium bodied with minimal carbonation and smooth.

Drinkability: I would have this again and recommend this to those seeking a sour open and finishes withe hints of malt.

12-21-2009 02:15:32 | More by capra12
Photo of mikesgroove

South Carolina

3.68/5  rDev +18.7%

Saw this one meandering around in my fridge and wanted to try something a but different last night so grabbed it out. Corked and caged 375 were served chilled in an oversized wine glass, consumed on 12/09/2009.
The pour was nice, rich dark brown and reddish in color with a decent head of brown on top that settled in very nicely, but did not leave much in the way of side lacing. Aroma showed no signs of sourness at all. Lots of maple sugar like aromas mixed with hints of prunes and a touch of grape skin as it warms, but where is the sour? As I take the first sip I am left confused by the style here. It is a wonderful brown ale, nice sweetness and a good use of dark fruit flavor here, and the grapes are coming in nicely now, but I just don't see it. Its missing a punch or a kick to it. Subtle, dry finish with a nice melding of flavors that leaves a bit of a sweet touch on the back of the tongue, but nothing else really exciting. Smooth, and easily session able, but just a miss for the style.

Overall I really liked this, but I am not sure on the labeling though. It was a quality offering, but at times I am just unsure of where it was supposed to go.

12-10-2009 17:16:06 | More by mikesgroove
Photo of rhoadsrage


3.53/5  rDev +13.9%

(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer pours a deep brown body with a red hint which is clear but dense. There is a thin wisp of head that swirls around the glass and is supported by a gentle carbonation.
S- The soft hint of fruity tartness turns more cidery when warm and it is otherwise pretty clean.
T- The soft apple tartness hint has some faint malt notes underneath and is well blended with a soft brie rind to follow. There is a nice tart soft bite in the finish that grows a bit as the beer warms.
M- This beer has a medium light mouthfeel with no alcohol heat at all.
D- This beer has more apple qualities than any funk or depth of flavor or aroma.

11-30-2009 23:14:40 | More by rhoadsrage
Photo of feloniousmonk


3.65/5  rDev +17.7%

"Chicago Meets Flanders"...

Velvet coloring, lightly clouded, very bright, smallish head above.

sour cherry aromatics, cloaked by oak...a little sweet, then more sour.

Taste: more of the same, the cherry flavor's there, and the tug of war between sweet and sour. This is no intense puckeration, and was not intended to be, I hasten to add. Nothing everything needs to be a lip bruiser. With each meeting of glass and lip, more sour smack, a slap of sweet, a twist of oakiness, then it softly pulls back.
Tasty malt, no hops, woody flavors permeate.
That has to be the main flaw in this Flemish Red, that there's not enough staying power in the flavor. Fades too fast, doesn't make as strong of an impression and really hang in there.
but, then, it's only a flaw if it wasn't intentional. This was designed as an easier-drinking, lighter, more approachable Flemish Red. And it works on that level.

11-23-2009 10:32:32 | More by feloniousmonk
Photo of organicbrewer


2.2/5  rDev -29%

A-Dark ruby. Big tan head. Fairly clear

S-Metalic. Wet Hay. No hops. Medicinal. Some toast.

T-Toasty malts. Munichy. Saccarine sweet. Not at all sour. Not even like an oud bruin with sweet sour. Just nothing. Maybe a little skittle flavor from some lacto but not much.

M- Medium bodied. A little tanic but ok. Medium carbonation.

D-While I wouldn't call this beer awful, it definetly isn't a (according to the label) oak-aged sour flemish style red ale. The fake sweetness/wortiness is already getting on my nerves (4 sips in).

Shame, I love most 2 brothers and urthel beers.

11-10-2009 02:25:06 | More by organicbrewer
Photo of Naugled

New York

3/5  rDev -3.2%

cork made a very quiet pop, not very carbonated and almost flat. Has a nice dark brown clear color.
very slight sour note in the nose, but thats it.
flavor is very mild, in sour, oak, malt and hops. For a sour it has a very low level sourness. I guess you can say the malt/hop balance is good but it has not depth or character like an aged sour should. The oak does just come through but it doesn't bring anything notable to the party.
Mouthfeel is crisp for such low carbonation, that's probably the best thing you can say about this beer.
Drinkable but boring and average.

11-09-2009 22:18:15 | More by Naugled
Photo of tigg924


4.22/5  rDev +36.1%

Appearance: dark amber in color, minimal head and carbonation head, clear

Smell: granny smith apple, dark fruit, and sour mix

Taste: granny smith apple, dark fruit, and sour mix, a touch of oak towards the end

Mouthfeel: smooth, no carbonation, semi-sour

Drinkability: This is a light intro sour which I could have several of. There is a nice fruity mix with the touch of sour. I get a good sour sensation throughout, but not enough to pucker.

11-02-2009 16:24:36 | More by tigg924
Photo of Onenote81

North Carolina

3.18/5  rDev +2.6%

Bottle received as an extra from BDLbrewster in a recent trade. Thanks for this! This is my first of the style so I will try to be as open in my review as I can.

Poured into my tulip glass. Pours a light rusty orange at first, but this quickly turns to a dark cherry color. Small ivory head on top. Some light lace sticks to the glass. Smells like Jolly Ranchers, cherries, and a wierd rubbery scent on the finish.

The mouth is moderately carbonated with just enough crisp bite. Decent body, bordering on syrupy. Flavors of mild tart fruits like cherry and cranberry, a decent hop presence leaves a little bitterness. There's some mild funk and yeast in there, but pretty tame.

As a Flanders Red Ale, I'm not sure how this holds up as I have nothing to compare it to. Though it seems that it should be a bit more tart and carry a bit more funk in the flavor. But as a beer on its own, this is pretty good. I couldn't drink too many as the fruitiness would wear on me after awhile, but it's decent. Check it out and decide for yourself.

10-31-2009 02:09:11 | More by Onenote81
Photo of jrallen34


1.38/5  rDev -55.5%

I drank this from a bottle into a chalice.

It pours a light brown with a piss pour head that doesn't rise half a finger and is gone even quicker. The lacing is watery.

The aroma is weak and unpleasing. It has a sour hop smell. No vinegar or crazy tartness.

The taste is really bland. The sourness you expect is not there and instead you get some kid of weird aftertaste.

10-30-2009 02:35:32 | More by jrallen34
Photo of BirdFlu

New Jersey

3.9/5  rDev +25.8%

Very red-orange pour with little-to-no head. Aroma is light, some tart sourness you can pick up but really not much at all. Not bad just sort of blank. Flavor is tart like grapefruit and sour candy. A very fruity presence. Mouth is very nice, very smooth with sour feeling and a very good level of carbonation. The beer's strongpoint. Very smooth drink and tasty, you could easily drink a lot but it could easily also have some more robust traits.

10-27-2009 14:55:06 | More by BirdFlu
Photo of Cresant


3.15/5  rDev +1.6%

Poured this 12.7 oz heavy green bottle into a Tripel Karmeliet glass. The body was a dull amber color and clear of sediment. The head was fine and light tan, faded to a tiny ring quickly.

Smell was mild. Metal. Damp garage and earthiness.

Taste was more substantial than the aroma. Fruity with oak/woodiness. Cherry tartness was well balanced against the vanilla sweetness. Wood intensified as it warmed.

Mouthfeel was light to medium in body, understated carbonation. I would have expected a little more from this collaboration.

10-26-2009 13:02:45 | More by Cresant
Photo of kenito799

New York

3.23/5  rDev +4.2%

Drank this camping, poured into plastic cups.

Looks teh part, reddish brown with almost no head. The aroma is cooked cherry, no characteristic funk to speak of. On teh palate a thin dry cherry, not bad, but lacking the sour funkiness expected of the style. Not bad but not very interesting. Nice try, need to refine the effort.

10-20-2009 02:26:28 | More by kenito799
Photo of BarrytheBear


2.25/5  rDev -27.4%

Sad face...or should I say, sad faces.

A small but motley group sat watching football, playing euchre, drinking beer, and generally having a good time. A bottle of Moaten entered the scene. "Interesting," said one of the young men. "I'm excited to try this," said another. Eagerly the crowd gathered round and the bottle of Moaten allowed itself to be poured freely.

"This smells like band aids," someone remarked. "Is this a diaper beer?" another questioned. Happy revelry went south and once happy faces turned sour, but not in the good-Flanders-tart/sour sort of way. "This is a Flanders?" someone cried. "It's just not right," another chimed.

Mild cherry, next to no tartness, diaper, rubber band, and band aid mesh together.

"Let's not speak of this again," someone said. Well said, someone, well said.

10-18-2009 23:35:12 | More by BarrytheBear
Photo of dfillius


3.95/5  rDev +27.4%

Poured into a goblet
A: No release of carbonation when corked :-( Clear, slightly claret hued brown liquid. Very little head leaves very little trace of a ring in very little time. More head please.
S: Molasses, fruit, tart lactic acid, clovees, hard to find aroma sometimes - minus points for that.
T: Sweet and malty is checked by the tartness. Cherry. Not as tart as other examples of the style I've tried. Very tasty, but with an odd flavor in the back of my mouth. Tarter please.
M: Sweet and chewy with a dry finish.
D: Tasty, but not attractive enough or tasty enough to buy again. I might order a second.

10-18-2009 18:00:15 | More by dfillius
Photo of TurdFurgison


3.05/5  rDev -1.6%

12.7 oz green bottle, corked and caged. This collaboration between Two Brothers and Urthel is styled as an oak aged sour Flemish style Red Ale.

The cork comes out with quietly and with no internal pressure so I expect little carbonation. The beer is clear or maybe just a little hazy, dark reddish copper color, and only a ring of bubbles around the glass. The smell is definitely NOT sour, actually it smells strongly of caramel malt and some yeasty esters. This smells really good as a Belgian Dark Ale but it misses the mark as a Flanders Red. Same with the flavor, this is tasty and a little tart, slightly sweet with some light fruits like pears or green grapes but almost no sour bite. Very silky mouthfeeland light body, very drinkable and good. Just not a Flanders Red Ale.

10-18-2009 00:31:06 | More by TurdFurgison
Photo of Ryan011235


2.75/5  rDev -11.3%

Poured into a snifter on 9/9/09

A - Dirty light brown with slight red highlights. Meager foam that is not long for this world. Tiny spots of circular lace.

S - Potent sour aroma with vinegar overtones. Kind of buttery.

T - Tart & sour. Decent amount of wheat with hints of grassiness. Dark cherry notes.

M - Moderate weight & carbonation. Finish is dry & fairly clean.

D - I'm not familiar with this particular style, thus I have nothing by which to compare it. I don't mind it; it's not offensive, but I'm in no hurry to drink it again.

10-15-2009 15:31:54 | More by Ryan011235
Photo of jsh420


2.08/5  rDev -32.9%

pours a very light redish brown with a 1 finger head that fades fast

smells watery - cherries and some wheat?

tstaste - ? i guess this is a flanders red because the label says so? - but to me it tases like a light hefe with cherries???

mouthfeel is thin watery - the cabonation was right though

drinikability is low - price is too high and the flavor sucks

this beer = epic fail

10-12-2009 02:16:47 | More by jsh420
Photo of CHSLBrew


4.05/5  rDev +30.6%

Bottle poured into a small red wine glass. Enjoyed while preparing for duck openner up at the cabin.

A-Poured with a minimal head on an easy pour, leaving a consistent off-white collar. A more vigorous pour yielded a better head, frothy and cloud-like, pale white. This beer was a clear, slightly hazed copper-red brew.

S-Bread and biscuity, cracker, slight spicy-sour, but in the eaves of the aroma, a bit of funkiness emerges, which continues to grow as the beer warms.

T-Funky-sour right off the bat in this beer's flavor. Malt foundation is slightly bready with a hint of toasty toffee into the finish. The most prominent flavor is most certainly the funky sourness. Finishes relatively dry, with a slight funk that dissipates quickly. This brew is quite tasty, indeed.

M-Medium-high carbonation, it appeared to have more carbonation that I perceived when drinking it. Medium body, pleasant.

D-I think this is a very tasty brew. A nice funkiness, exactly what I like about Flanders red brews, bolsters this beer's refreshing characteristics.

10-08-2009 20:31:54 | More by CHSLBrew
Photo of wyattshotmaker


3.28/5  rDev +5.8%

poured into a tulip, nice deep brownish red with an okay head and lacing. nose is slightly tart cherries, bit of oak.

taste has some initial sweetness followed by some tart fruit/cherry flavor with hints of oak and vanilla laced throughout. some lingering oak in the finish. not very sour.

mouthfeel is good, somewhat light bodied.

could have been more sour.

10-02-2009 01:56:29 | More by wyattshotmaker
Photo of jjanega08


3.58/5  rDev +15.5%

A= the pour yeilds a deep amber color that verges on a brown shade but doesn't male it. The head is about two fingers and lingers around for quite a while leaving nice sheets of lacing on my glass. The head is an off white color that falls to a rocky beauty.
S= sour apples in the smell with some cherries as well. A small amount of funkyness is in there but not much. A little bit of a sweet maltyness that is sort of dumbed down to just plain sweet with no other odor.
T= very minimal on the sour and more heavy on a little funky. I get the cherries and some apple taste but mostly it feels like I just licked a bettery. Not the shock part but the aftertaste of licking a bettery. A little apple juicy and lots of metallic battery taste. Not bad or aweful but just a little different. Not the best and not too sour at all but not bad.
M= really smooth and soft. Not a lot of carbonation just a nice soft smooth mellow feel.
D= pretty good. I'm hoping to buy another one of these to age. The sour taste just isn't as much as I was hoping and maybe it will pick it up a little. Good beer and as I said I'm gonna buy it again but its really nothing special.

09-29-2009 02:22:33 | More by jjanega08
Moaten from Two Brothers Brewing Company
73 out of 100 based on 122 ratings.